Y'all Got Any More Of That

I'm sorry someone hurt you.

Taking your anger out on others will not heal you.

Child pageants are sick AF (it is my firm belief the Ramsey's are directly complicit in their daughters death), human trafficking is sick AF, drag queens interacting with kids is sick AF, trans indoctrination of children is sick AF, etc., etc., etc.

"PROTECT THE CHILDREN"

If the cause is just who cares about the rhetoric?

Thank you for providing an excellent example.

You start off with some great points. Then you tie in your personal bigotries and make it ridiculous. It becomes clear that you're not a serious person, and you're just using the serious issue to launch attacks on specific demographics.

All great points, just the last few you take exception to because you are a proponent of the grooming behavior of some pedophiles but not the techniques of other groups of pedophiles.

Another great example.

You start off just fine. Then you connect it to something ridiculous and show that you're not a serious person.

You just use this to launch political attacks.

😄 What's political about pedophilia?

Proceeds to not respond. LOL

You mean, "proceeds to go on about his life and do other things."

No, you proceeding to not respond was clearly expressed.

You may have missed it because of your personal bigotries, but you accused me of being a proponent of grooming children.

Again, making it ridiculous and using the serious issue of children being abused and exploited to make political attacks.

Just like you did with Drag Queens and Trans people.

Like what is the total population of Drag Queens in the US? And what about trans people?

Like what if we added them together? Any guesses?

Wait, don't guess yet.

Now let's compare that to the total number of 'youth pastors' in the US.

Which of those 2 numbers do you think is bigger? You can guess at both numbers here. You don't have to write it down. Just think about those numbers.

Because if we were on a game show and we had to guess which one was more than 5, I'd bet on the youth pastors. That's going to be a waaaay bigger number.

And the job often has trusted unsupervised access to children. Unlike Drag Queens or trans people.

So, if I had to guess which way a pedo was going to go, I don't think they'd decide to take on an identity in a small group of people who exist on the fringe of society. I think they'd work to get in with an established trusted social institution that has ready and easy access to children.

Like, you know, being a youth pastor in a church.

And I don't see you making those connections, Regularfeller. I don't see you saying things like "we need to make sure that our religious institutions are held accountable and that any pedos are sent to jail. That way we can know our children are safe."

Admittedly our interactions are limited to when we cross here in the politics stream. I don't follow you. So, it is possible that you have said these things in other streams and locations.

It's just that I haven't seen it.

But I have seen you say that Drag Queens and Trans people are "sick AF."

So. You look like you're using pedophilia, child exploitation and abuse to launch political attacks against groups you find "sick AF" and that you don't really care beyond having a platform to express your personal bigotries.

You stated you are a proponent of grooming children.

I ask again, what is political about pedophilia?

Applying your prejudices and conspiracy theories to everyone who disagree with you is common leftist stereotyping. Insinuating that there aren’t groups of people committed to exploiting children and defending those who openly chant they’re coming for children is low even for a democrat. Leave the f**king kids alone and denounce actual pedophelia and sexual child abuse would be the way to get a bi-partisan solution.

If you could point to the part where I insinuated that there aren't groups of people out to exploit children, that'd be great.

You have repeatedly tried to dismiss them and compare specific child sexual trafficking to a child beauty pageant. God knows what horrors occur at dog shows. It’s a ridiculous comparison and acts as defense of people who are actually trafficking children. That exists and saying it’s not that bad is idiotic.

Let's be clear:
Are their pedo's that exploit and abuse children? Yes.
Are there groups of them that work together? Yes.
Are there groups of them that work together using money and political power? absolutely.
Is the 'Sound of Freedom' real? No. It's a C grade action movie.
Does 'Sound of Freedom' include some real world elements? Yes.
Does that mean 'Sound of Freedom' is real? No.

Just like a Fast & Furious movie.

Are there cars in the movie and the world? yes.
Do some people use cars for illegal street racing? yes.
Does that mean the Fast & Furious movies are real? no.

And, again, it's things like this that make you look like you're just using the actual problem of pedophilia and sexual assault to launch political attacks.

You know, taking a serious issue and connecting it to ridiculous assertions make you look like someone that isn't serious.

Is there a person that fast and furious is based on who provided his experience? No. There is a difference. No movie is real it’s an artistic product. The story however can be based on real events or fantasy. There was a person who actually performed and experienced what is depicted I. The Freedom road movie. As a movie it certainly contains dramatizations for entertainment value. It is based on the very real events of a federal agent who investigated child sex trafficking. That it hurts your political narrative is obvious by vehement denouncement of reality. Again not uncommon for the leftist political machine.

Again, you start off saying reasonable things.

Then you tie it up with some ridiculous stuff that makes it so you can't be taken seriously.

Why can't you be taken seriously?

Because when you tie it up with the "leftist political machine" stuff it looks like you're just saying these sensible things to launch political attacks, and you shut down any chance at agreement.

You know why you can’t be taken seriously?Because you can’t simply denounce pedophilia or child sex trafficking without trying to rationalize it or make it seem something else is worse. Nope, nothing worse and rationalizing it is indirect support of it. Leave the kids alone.

1. Did you watch Sound of Freedom or just basing your opinion on a Rolling Stones article?

2. Have you researched the true events and people the movie portrays albeit with some artistic license (as all movies based on real events do)? Maybe learn about the topic then just assume q anon conspiracy. A convenient label to slap on uncomfortable topics, conspiracy theory. Come on.

3. Have you personally experienced or know someone who was trafficked as a young child (like I was) and who might get another chance at freedom and life from movies like this that are trying to spread awareness of the very real problem of modern day slavery or are you still hung up on white people making reperations for people enslaved centuries ago?

I'm glad you were able to get out of that situation, Kate. It's terrible. I am glad that you no longer have to endure that.

1) I don't watch C list action movies. I lived through the 80s. I don't need to see that level of dreck anymore. They're trite and boring.

2) I have read about the real life events and what the movie has! And like 99.9% of movies based on real events, the 'reality of the movie' is heightened to create tension and drama.

Like how many people does Tim kill in the movie? How many did he kill in the really real world? One of those numbers is 0.

And the section of the movie where he dresses up like a doctor to go into the jungle to rescue a kid? Did the real guy dress up as a doctor? Yes. Did he rescue the kid he went in search of?

Nope.

And I bet there's a bit where every time he's been called off of a mission it was because of a shadow cabal of pedo's in the government protecting their own, right?

I dunnno if there is now, but if I were writing it, that's absolutely what I would put in there. Why a shadow cabal back in the US? Because it would make quitting his job more dramatic. He's such a noble figure! Sacrificing so much! And his wife supports his choice! oh, how wonderful! Oh the feels, so powerful!

But the reality is that as a US Law Enforcement agent operating outside of the US, if there isn't an identifiable US Citizen involved, his authority to conduct an operation ends.

Speaking of quitting his job. According to interviews with him, he called his wife to tell her that he was coming home again and she told him he had to quit his job or they'd both be sent to Hell.

Is that how it works now? Because back when I was a kid in church, God was the sole arbiter of Grace and it didn't matter what you did or didn't do in your life. See the Thief on the Cross section of the bible for details.

So, is the movie based on true events? Yes.
Is it a 'heightened reality' unreal action movie structured to make you feel good by the end of it? Also yes.

Does that make the movie real? No.

As I recall, you're Catholic. Have you been actively speaking out at your church to hold the church accountable for its actions in enabling pedo's to evade detection and prosecution for decades and decades? The same church that is actively working to avoid paying out to the survivors?

Have you spoken out about that at all?

Yes, I'm catholic. And yes I've talked about sexual abuse in the church numerous times here and elsewhere. I have yet to find anyone on this site willing to listen respectfully though. imgflip.com/i/6nhgnv The Catholic church is a small part of a worldwide epidemic of abuse and probably the only organization actively trying to stop it with rigorous trainings, reporting protocols, involving government in investigations and they have paid millions in reperations, how much have public schools, boy scouts, and other churches paid? I'm glad to talk more about what my church is doing about the problem.

Actually they've paid billions for abuse victims though money will never replace the damage done to these people. One important step they've taken is not allowing homosexual men or MAPS into the seminary but we're called bigoted for that.

" According to interviews with him, he called his wife to tell her that he was coming home again and she told him he had to quit his job or they'd both be sent to Hell.
Is that how it works now? Because back when I was a kid in church, God was the sole arbiter of Grace and it didn't matter what you did or didn't do in your life. See the Thief on the Cross section of the bible for details."

Do you really believe it doesn't matter what you do or don't do in your life? So this little discussion about human trafficking doesn't matter because oh those criminals have God's grace huh? Or imagine being put in a situation where you could actively stop a crime from happening and you do nothing. Is God supposed to roll out the red carpet for you? I haven't heard a single interview of his mention his wife threaten him with hellfire. She said it would jeapordize their salvation if they did nothing when they had the opportunity to do so. Kinda like the few bishops and priests who did nothing about the church abuse that you so conveniently bring up at every opportunity. Is God going to welcome those criminals to heaven? Maybe rethink your opinion that it doesn't matter what you do with your life becuase that's a very dangerous way to live.

Great comment. I posit to my people that just sitting on one's thumbs waiting for "God to take care of it" isn't how God takes care of it.

That said, I believe the positive power of creation can only be utilized when the "food" is placed out for the beast, and it finds it, and then reveals it want's to learn more. Otherwise.. Nada

I'm saddened to see you engaged in a drawn out diatribe with whistle---- because that entity isn't healthy, IMO.

Mental illness is a disease -- if one stays near it long enough, they can get caught up in it. On that note, I'll learn this silly ImgFlip interface someday and figure out how to ban certain people because they are nothing but a time sapping black hole for me. My wish is that they express their WOKE 1st amendment speech to someone other than me.

Honestly, they don't deserve your time or mine! We can't change them with extended dialog.. Awareness, and awakening (not WOKENING) will come from within themselves, or not at all..

Plant the seed and walk away. See what fruits in time..

Let's be clear about something: I am an atheist. Religion isn't real. But we're going to set that aside, and look at the specifics of the New Testament.

Does God roll out the red carpet if I watch a crime happen and do nothing?

According to the bible, yes.

So, no where in the Bible does it say you get to go to Heaven. Faith in God and his Grace grants you eternal life. Otherwise you go to the lake of fire.

Ephesians 2: 8-9. "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast."

So, clearly, your actions do not matter. It says it specifically: your works do not get you eternal life. It is a gift. Not earned. It is only the gift of God that grants you eternal life.

Romans backs this up with 6:23: "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

Again, death is the result of sin. We all sinned even before our birth so we're born going to the lake of fire, and ONLY the gift of God's grace gets you eternal life.

Rom. 3:23 backs this up with "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."

Everyone's default state is Sinner and is automatically destined for the lake of fire unless God decides to give you the gift of eternal life.

So...how do you get that gift?

Believe in Jesus. Acts 4:12 says "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

Romans 10:9 says the same thing: "Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."

And, classically, John 3:16-17. "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him."

So, all you need to do is 1) say outloud the magic words of Jesus being your lord 2) believe in your heart that Jesus was sent to this world, died for your sins, and was raised from the dead.

That's it.

No good works. No kind heart.

Remember Jesus died for your sins. Not some of your sins. Not an approved list of sins. All your sins. There is no sin to sinny for Jesus to redeem.

The worst person in the world gets eternal life just because they say the magic words and believe it in their heart.

So the Hollywood movie exaggerates only 2 points? Not bad. And the he didn't really get to rescue the girl he went into enemy territory to rescue? But that negates the 6,000 people he has rescued and 5,000 arrested right? That's 6,000 more than all of the people sitting and judging him and a movie have rescued. Since you asked me what I'm doing about the problem, what are you doing? That's the conversation that needs to be had, and the purpose of the movie, not nitpicking the script of something you refuse to watch.