"For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs." -1 Timothy 6:10 NASB 1995 (The NASB is considered to be the most accurate English Translation)
The problem I have with that, is the assertion is that "the love of money" is somehow evil, when that's simply not true. For example, the street vendor and the mugger both have a love for money, but not everyone is going to stoop to the level of a mugger/criminal because of "the love money".
The point is better stated elsewhere in the Bible You can not serve God and mammon (Money) you will love one and hate the other. There is nothing wrong with profit or capitalism, but capitalism only works when people have a moral code that does not put profit above people. Perfect example the covid Plandemic and big pharma killing and maiming millions for billions in profit.
That's crony capitalism, and so is not true free market capitalism using the rule-of-law. One does not have to believe in your God to be moral. I know pagans and atheists that are very moral. As for profits above people, as long as they don't initiate force, I could care less if they make profits. So with that, Hail Mammon, and screw Jehovah the Jewish false God. I'm Gentile, not Hebrew.
No, all religions are shaped by whatever particular culture's morals, or the direction wished for it to go by those who create the religion (ie Christianity) . Basic which came first, the chicken or the fried egg.
"Wrong, most morals originate in philosophy. Only when it becomes doctrine does it become religion. It starts with an idea that is then solidified as religous doctrine."
Those who fancy themselves smarter than God are the most stupid of all . . .
By your standard, there is no standard, therefore there are no morals apart from God as absolute Lawgiver. Yesterday's "philosophy" that you claim birthed morals has been replaced by today's, which will be replaced by tomorrow's. This ever shifting moral code is the same as having none at all.
tbf, only 144,000 of Yahweh's Sainted Chosen (AKA Jews, for those who are gonna say Jesusians) plus a handful of Gentiles will go the Heaven, so technically it's practically everybody's going to Hell, minus a fraction of a percent of which I ain't got time to print all the zeros after the "." for.
"Isn't the Jewish/Old Testament version of the afterlife pretty fuzzy? It's not terrible or great, it's just...there"
Not even. Sheol, sleeping in an underground cave... They're basically dead, just a nice story told to make some kid feel better when he asked why grandma won't wake up when they wrapped and interred her body underground.
Speaking of Abrahamic bullshit, why don't you go after your pedophile priest. There's proof of them molesting children, yet nothing is done about them. Also, Prove your Jewish God exist, otherwise your talking out of your butthole. lol
You are a living proof He exist. How else would the human species had survived. Think about it in a scientific way, I can get down and speak your language if you follow the science. No other species on earth their offspring takes as long as humans to be dependent on their parents, just by that understanding we should have been extinct long ago. No other planet has advanced life and the perfect conditions to make it possible, you need a planed to be in goldilocks + satellite to keep axis perfectly placed to keep atmosphere + size + elements needed for life, not one other planet is like Earth in that context... and we have looked million of light years away. DNA coding is another proof of intentional inteligent creation by design over simply lucky coincidence. I don't know any pedophile priests, but I bet there are more agnostics pedophiles that there are Christians, and true Christians should be 0 count. Can you claim that from other religions or agnostics?
"your religion has its roots in the Talmud." So?
Way to dodge " I bet there are more agnostics pedophiles that there are Christians, and true Christians should be 0 count. Can you claim that from other religions or agnostics?"
But going out of context. The love of money is ROOT to all evil. You love money all you want. I have other things that are worth much more.
You just gave a whole bunch of reasons to disprove the existence of Gods.
Humans wouldn't be so delicate - the weakest of all creatures to have ever existed - if they were created, designed, and that's minus this whole "in the image of...." silliness. The God are wimpy apes that would die of exposure if they got caught out in the open in the tropics with no wood to burn at night but a chimp can stay out in the Russian cold with no added protection? Wow, which God created them?
If creation was the case, there should be people on the Moon, on Mars, at the bottom of the sea.... There should be no mutations, no cancer, nay, no DNA for that matter. What on Earth would Divinity have genes for in the first place? Just in case Maury wants to find out who Jesus's father was?
The root of money is gold, silver and other rare jewels and gems. Only the government and its federal reserve monopolized money, and now we have to deal with inflation and the devaluing of the dollar, since we no longer go by the gold standard. So now we create paper money out of thin air.
The problem with money is not if it is back by gold/silver or any other commodities or not, it is one of morals and government. All currency is ultimately backed by labor and production. When a society stops relying on God they turn to government for dependency. This dependency reduces production and increases spending/debt and money supply. When money supply increases faster then production prices increase and the relative value of money decreases. It is not coincidental that the United States was forced off of the gold standard at the hieght of the sexual revolution and at the begining of the legalization of abortion.
I think what you say is partly rubbish. Money should be backed by gold as it use to be, that way the government can't steal our money. Also, I'm for the sexual revolution, and yet I'm against abortion. It is the government that's screwing us over, and a lack of free markets, not a lack of morals or labor. What do you think causes inflation, if not the over inflating of paper money which devalues currency.
It doesnt matter if money is Backed by gold (or anything else) if you have immoral people and or immoral leaders. Nixon didn't Just wake up one morning and decide to end the gold standard, he was forced to by France (and other countries but primarily France) who saw the United States spending tens of billions on a war in Asia while simultaneously spending tens of billions on the "war on poverty" and demanded thier gold instead of paper IOUs.
I'm so happy I don't live in America, I only have to read about dead kids in schools from outside the country and not have to worry about it happening to my family. Some Americans seems to think dead kids is an acceptable price to pay for widespread gun ownership. ISIS approves.
tbf, it's not only rapists that the police ignore there, they ignore home invasions and robberies too - unless the homeowner dares try to fend off the intruder with a spoon, a literal actual SPOON! Then it's slammer time.
But at least no mass killings, unless it's a futball game betwenn Upper West North Umbrington vs Kenisington by the River, in which the standard 8 die in rioting after the game. A GAME. No guns involved though, so no biggie.
I was referring to the state of Nevada, which in that case means we're both wrong.
It currently ranks #11 from the top, down from #10 on the list of states with the higest suicide rates. Washington ranks #21.
However, Las Vegas still is #1 for suicide rates.
I couldn't give a rat's left nut for that - literal - dead end state. Desperate folks literally go there for one last chance at life, lose what they have left, then commit suicide. Outside of gambling, its economy is dependent on real estate development. Thing is, once a town is built, it's on to the next development, while the previous one crumbles economically. The rest of the US can bend and fart on it to keep it afloat, but it won't.
Of course this may have been personal, but given how the so-called TOS apparently has a permitted bias in the fine print and people we've never seen say anything bad to a fellow memer getting them for reasons they don't even know, why chance it...
Notice how the t*****s (timer for using that word for us, but not them) are getting away with slaughter for the old bs again?