There was zero attempt to overthrow the government. There was wrongdoing, but solely trespassing (minor) and some vandalism.

In 1983, there was an actual attack on the capitol by far-Left protestors trying to kill Senators.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_United_States_Senate_bombing

A little bit of yellow and a little bit of light blue. Nice.

Can't dismiss this mob activity as simple trespassing/vandalism. This was, at the very least, a "riot." Preparation. Breaking and entry. Over a hundred police officers injured. Some died, and we're lucky there wasn't even more death.

Now, was this riot an "insurrection"? In other words: not just a riot with a political bent, but with an aim of affecting the course of U.S. history?

Here are the factors to look at:

(1) The date of the rally (Jan. 6, 2021, when Congress was due to certify the transition of power);
(2) The location of the rally (Trump could have held it anywhere in America, but he chose Washington, D.C.), and;
(3) The expressed intentions of the rally participants.

Giuliani warmed up the crowd with words about "trial by combat." In his own speech, Donald Trump himself used just enough plausibly-deniable language to cover his own ass. He did not actively tell them to go try to overthrow the government. He did not tell them to go maim and kill. He in fact urged his followers to be "peaceful," though apparently not loudly and repeatedly enough. What he did say is that his followers should go and give the Republicans "courage," and sent them marching down Pennsylvania Ave. in the direction of the Capitol.

His speech has been likened to a mafia boss saying to his capos, "who will rid me of this problem?"

It should be noted that many of Trump's followers were less circumspect than Trump himself, expressing their wishes to actually keep Trump in power, not to mention hunt down certain government officials: "Hang Mike Pence," "Where are you, Nancy?" etc.

Anyway. After all the carnage that day, the effort amounted to nothing, of course. It was kind of silly to expect that this temper tantrum would have changed anything. Congress and the Vice-President had no constitutional authority to reject the decision of the voters, and of the Electoral College, no matter what Trump said.

So: Reasonable minds can differ on whether this was a bona fide attempt by Trump to stay in power, or just a way to enact violent revenge and retaliation on Congress.

But any way you slice it, this was the Executive Branch organizing a mob of loyalists to attack the Legislative Branch (and another member of the Executive Branch: The Vice-President) on a key day for the transition of power. No question.

Nothing like this has ever happened before in American history. It was a Big Deal.

Well said. 👍

You're right. January 6th 2020 was not an insurrection.

January 6th 2021 however...

Good point... 2021 was not an insurrection either.

YEAH! Especially since nothing of note happened on 1/6 2020. There were no protests. No insurrection.

Yep... typo... Jan 6, 2021 was no insurrection either...

They tried to KILL people and overturn the election

False. They tried to insure the correct outcome happened. Biden or Trump. But correct.

Uh huh, sure, the people who wanted to do this to Mike Pence totally didn't have any violent intensions.

Effigy is not actual violence. Learn something.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MhcWmDBS1Pw

So the Trump supporters who are on camera kicking and punching cops, you're okay with that?

They interfered with the legal transfer of power. An insurrection. Same as overthrowing.

Nope. January 6 there was NO transfer of power. That was January 20. January 6 there was an unnecessary rush to certify the highly questionable (then and now) results of the election. There was still two weeks to go to make sure all the legal challenges were dealt with.

No attempt to overthrow.
No attempt at insurrection.

Thank you for disqualifying yourself from the conversation.

January 6 was the date to certify who would be inaugurated on January 20. And it was no unnecessary rush. The insurrection sought to alter the lawful result and keep Trump in power illegally. And a lot of people went to prison, with more to follow. You're the one who is disqualified from the conversation.

Again you're incorrect. You claimed it was interference with the legal transfer of power. You were corrected with facts (and your denial doesn't alter facts). NO LEGAL TRANSFER WAS TO OCCUR ON JANUARY 6. You don't even understand American government.

There was a rush... all legal claims were not dealt with. A few more days patience would not have hurt -- so the legal protest was about the rush to judgement. Only the minor trespassing and some vandalism were the crimes committed and it's pathetic anyone is still in jail for the events of that day when the Antifa and BLM riots did more damage to the country and very few were prosecuted.

No, you cannot factually call this an "insurrection" and expect to be taking seriously. Quit following marching orders from your overlords.

We do know that Biden is President and Trump isn't. Apparently that's more than you know.

"We do know that Biden is President and Trump isn't. Apparently that's more than you know."

That's what a liberal says when everything they were whining about previously was destroyed with logic and facts.

Does your attempt to distract us distract you from the pain of being proven so very, very wrong?

And how many times did you say "Trump is not my president" during his incumbency?

Good lord you guys are TeDiouS.

I never said that.

Not on January 6 we did not. There were still (and are still) valid legal questions regarding the outcome. The protest was only to encourage the powers that be to hold their horses and let the actual results be finalized. We'll never know the correct outcome because of the left's rush to judgement (aided by Pence)

So you're sticking to the mistaken notion that Pence had the power to alter the result?

nope