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Hank_Rearden
9 ups, 2y, 3 replies
Graeystone
7 ups, 2y
Wouldn't trust him with a tricycle. . .he'd find a way to tip that over!
[deleted]
7 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Hell no lmfao
2ATom
0 ups, 2y
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3 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Hank_Rearden
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
For president, not for pilot.
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0 ups, 2y
"Analogy? What analogy?"
Trashbuilder
7 ups, 2y
The_Lone_Haranguer
5 ups, 2y
RYKAHNE
5 ups, 2y
:0)
Trashbuilder
5 ups, 2y
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4 ups, 2y
left wings are stupid as hell
GlamorousTurkey
0 ups, 2y
Both versions are wrong.

What's the difference between a plane and the US?

The plane's wings aren't arguing over policies and crashing the plane instead of working together and help it fly.
jdatesta
0 ups, 2y
So much for the "left-wing" of peace.
Kuzul
5 ups, 2y, 3 replies
I don't know what it's like in USA, but I'm a leftist, because I value people's lives and needs before money and personal belongings
TrustiGoat
8 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Different meaning for you, definitely......
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Kuzul
3 ups, 2y, 1 reply
TrustiGoat
7 ups, 2y, 1 reply
who isn't misinformed....
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Kuzul
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
TrustiGoat
5 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Yep, shame it hasn't worked out for any of them yet........always ends in disaster......
Kuzul
2 ups, 2y, 2 replies
Because they didn't do it right
Bluessol
5 ups, 2y, 1 reply
And you’re smarter than all those that have tried? Pffffft, I doubt it. It fails 100% of the time and ends in mass slaughter of your own people. Delusion doesn’t make it better.
Kuzul
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
I'm not saying i'm smarter, but if people wouldn't get so desperate to archive the goal, it had worked
Bluessol
3 ups, 2y
It only works on very small communal farms not for nations. It’s not just a bad idea it’s deadly. Millions have died by people trying to prove that ideology. It is always corrupted because it ignores human nature and places power in totalitarian dictators, without fail, everytime. Capitalism has created more wealth and prosperity than communism ever has or will. It’s not perfect either but it’s a better base to work from.
Hank_Rearden
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Yep, the usual excuse when the workers' and peasants' paradise collapses in starvation, violence, and tyranny:

Oh, but that's because it wasn't REAL Socialism!! NEXT time they'll get it right!!!
Kuzul
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
What else did you think I meant
Hank_Rearden
0 ups, 2y
Nothing else. That's what you guys always say when one of your socialist paradises collapses.
Funguy.
7 ups, 2y, 3 replies
abortion anyone???
Octavia_Melody
3 ups, 2y
"R**e victims are not the majority of cases"

No, but they still exist

"I don't think a 10 year old should be forced to take care of a baby from a r**e incident but I don't think they should kill the baby either"

So you think her rights should take a back seat to the "rights" of an embryo?

"So you just deny facts you don't agree with?"

When did I do that?

"I'm also not in a demographic that tries to change science at any whim to appease their feelings"

You literally are. Conservative Christians are constantly trying to twist science when it doesn't agree with them. They claim the earth is only a few thousand years old and then pretend the science supports that, when it does not. They call it a baby a few days after conception, when it is not.

"never said she did, I said she was a pioneer in American abortion"

She wasn't

"yeah, what were those cases?"

I'd have to double check, but I think only in cases where a woman's life was in danger

"how do you know?"

Because she never said that

"That's irrelevant"

It's very relevant. You say she's a racist. If she was really so racist she wouldn't have support from so many black people when she was alive and even today

"Why does Che Guevara have so much support from black people and LGBT pioneers despite being savagely racist and homophobic?"

I'm not a supporter of his so I don't know

"Because misinformation exists. Same with blacks supporting Sanger."

So where's the misinformation?

"Actually abortions were done illegally and in secret"

Abortions were done illegally before it became legalized. Do you have any evidence that Planned Parenthood performed illegal abortions before 1973? Because I know for a fact they were not started to perform abortions or even advocate for abortions. They were started to promote information about birth control and availability of contraceptives.

"actresses were often forced by their companies to go to PP and have abortions against their will bc their lives were owned by the companies, not themselves"

Before 1973? Source?
Octavia_Melody
3 ups, 2y
"American slavery was sickening. Having babies isn't. Freeing blacks was NOT sickening. Killing babies is"

Abortion isn't killing babies

"...don't use something like slavery where freeing people from it was a good thing that only selfish slave owners would've found opposition to"

The Bible allows for slavery, so why is freeing people from slavery a good thing?

"Abortion had to be politically manipulated into our minds to even sound sane"

No it didn't

"Because people will support anything claiming to be "human rights." "

No they won't. If somebody said that killing nonbelievers is a human right because it's part of their religion, you wouldn't see a bunch of people scrambling to support that and say they should have that right.

"This argument shows you don't know much about how the abortion process works"

I bet I know more than you do, because you're the one who thinks an embryo is a baby, when it's not

"Matter of fact, abortion doctors force mothers to look away from ultrasounds during abortions because mothers will often change their mind if they just see the baby (not even see it getting attacked; seeing it get attacked and seeing the baby fight for his life is what turned one up-and-coming big name in the abortion industry into a staunch pro-lifer)"

Do you have any evidence for this claim? I'm pretty sure they can't force someone to not look at the monitor, assuming they could even see the monitor from where they are in the first place.

A baby doesn't "fight for its life" during an abortion procedure. It has no mental capacity to understand what's going on.

Are you talking about Abby Johnson? Because her story about being shocked by an abortion she supposedly witnessed can't be confirmed with facts. The story she gives doesn't match with what we know happened. Also, she's a known liar, like so many anti-abortion activists.

"Pro-life has little to do with religion"

Really? So it's just a big coincidence that more religious people tend to be more opposed to abortion?

"Abortion wasn't much of a concept well after atheism was introduced to the public in the mid-1800s"

I'm not even sure what that is supposed to mean. Atheism was not "introduced to the public". It has been around for thousands of years.

"But I stand by the idea of killing is wrong, and I would still stand by that whether I was religious or not"

So when god commands the killing of people in the Bible, is that wrong?
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Kuzul
3 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Funguy.
6 ups, 2y, 2 replies
abortion devalues human life simply bc it hasn't been conceived yet

also poor Republicans exist
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Kuzul
3 ups, 2y, 3 replies
Funguy.
5 ups, 2y, 2 replies
adoption exists too

also thats not every pregnancy situation, ppl always jump to that the moment anyone says abortion is morally wrong
Kuzul
4 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Abortion is morality right
Funguy.
4 ups, 2y, 2 replies
well imagine being the first person to justify this in a world where no one has thought of it. Your argument basically is that since we don't see the baby yet in the womb, it shouldn't technically count as a life and thus we are free to do whatever we want with it, including stabbing it to death or vacuuming it. Basically you have to redefine the terms of when life is conceived so you can make it about the "rights" of older humans. (Which adds to age privileges). It's hard to imagine any decent human being coming up with this argument. Imagine someone trying to do that now.. oh wait, some ppl are campaigning for the "right" to abort a baby up to 4 weeks AFTER birth... Ofc, american abortion was started by an avowed racist who was trying to depopulate the black community...
Kuzul
4 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Ok I didn't mean that, I think abortion should be done in the first weeks of pregnancy; if not, there should be a system that provides help (if needed) to the parents
Funguy.
4 ups, 2y, 1 reply
okay that's more okay but I don't think its really ever okay unless it endangers the mom
Kuzul
3 ups, 2y
What about raped 10 year old girls?
Octavia_Melody
3 ups, 2y, 2 replies
"well imagine being the first person to justify this in a world where no one has thought of it"

That's irrelevant. Imagine being the first person to stand up against slavery when no one has thought of it.

"Your argument basically is that since we don't see the baby yet in the womb, it shouldn't technically count as a life and thus we are free to do whatever we want with it, including stabbing it to death or vacuuming it"

How do you stab something you can't even see?

"It's hard to imagine any decent human being coming up with this argument"

It's even harder imagining any decent human being telling a rape victim "too bad so sad, now you have to carry a pregnancy you didn't consent to. I don't care how traumatizing it is for you, because you have to do what my religion says"

"some ppl are campaigning for the "right" to abort a baby up to 4 weeks AFTER birth"

No they aren't. There's no such thing as "abortion after birth"

"Ofc, american abortion was started by an avowed racist who was trying to depopulate the black community..."

Wow you're completely wrong. Listen closely:

1. Margaret Sanger didn't start abortion

2. Margaret Sanger didn't even support abortion in most cases

3. Margaret Sanger wasn't trying to "depopulate the black community..."

4. If Margaret Sanger was such an avowed racist, why did she have support from leaders in the black community?

5. Planned Parenthood didn't do abortions for decades after it was founded, because abortion wasn't legal at the time

You're 0 for 5
Funguy.
3 ups, 2y
1) never said she did, I said she was a pioneer in American abortion

2) yeah, what were those cases? 

3) how do you know? Fact checks deny it? They also deny LBJ's daughter said something racist to a black maid because she denied it. 

4) That's irrelevant. Why does Che Guevara have so much support from black people and LGBT pioneers despite being savagely racist and homophobic? Because misinformation exists. Same with blacks supporting Sanger. 

5) Actually abortions were done illegally and in secret. The news won't tell you this because it goes against their abortion is "pro-freedom" narrative, but actresses were often forced by their companies to go to PP and have abortions against their will bc their lives were owned by the companies, not themselves.
Funguy.
1 up, 2y
American slavery was sickening. Having babies isn't. Freeing blacks was NOT sickening. Killing babies is. So this is extremely irrelevant. If you wanted to make an analogy on how my argument doesn't always hold up, maybe don't use something like slavery where freeing people from it was a good thing that only selfish slave owners would've found opposition to. Abortion had to be politically manipulated into our minds to even sound sane. Because people will support anything claiming to be "human rights."

This argument shows you don't know much about how the abortion process works. Also ultrasounds exist. Matter of fact, abortion doctors force mothers to look away from ultrasounds during abortions because mothers will often change their mind if they just see the baby (not even see it getting attacked; seeing it get attacked and seeing the baby fight for his life is what turned one up-and-coming big name in the abortion industry into a staunch pro-lifer). 

Pro-life has little to do with religion. Abortion wasn't much of a concept well after atheism was introduced to the public in the mid-1800s. That's what the media will have you think. But I stand by the idea of killing is wrong, and I would still stand by that whether I was religious or not. R**e victims are not the majority of cases, yet pro-choicers always bring this up when defending abortion in general. I don't think a 10 year old should be forced to take care of a baby from a r**e incident but I don't think they should kill the baby either. 

So you just deny facts you don't agree with? Look it up, there are people arguing for that. And no, I also don't think you can abort babies after birth. But I'm also not in a demographic that tries to change science at any whim to appease their feelings.
Octavia_Melody
3 ups, 2y, 1 reply
"adoption exists too"

So does abortion
Funguy.
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
that wasn't the point, they were acting like abortion was the only option
Octavia_Melody
2 ups, 2y, 2 replies
It's not the only option, but you don't think it should be an option at all
Funguy.
1 up, 2y, 2 replies
I think it's a cruel and corrupt option. Adoption hurts no one except maybe the mom but thats not the normal occurrence.
Octavia_Melody
2 ups, 2y
Adoption hurts a number of people. It hurts the child because they're not growing up with their actual mother, and it hurts the woman who is forced to continue a pregnancy for nine months even if she doesn't want to
Octavia_Melody
2 ups, 2y
I'll clarify: adoption can* hurt a number of people
Funguy.
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
So the solution to a child hurt by never knowing their mother is to get rid of em altogether? You may "solve" the problem for that one child but you run several higher risks. One of which is you're telling young children that 100% of their life's value is based on whether or not their mother felt like allowing them to live. And we wonder why so much of this generation is depressed. Especially if they could've had an older sibling if their mother had wanted children at the time and they're just a lucky survivor. I actually am a part of that group.
Kuzul
2 ups, 2y
What if the mother was raped, she has no income, no family, how would she solve having a child at an age she should be at school?
AmericanViking
4 ups, 2y, 1 reply
So they don't have provisions in the law for that? why so dishonest?
Octavia_Melody
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
There are many conservatives who don't want exceptions in the law for rape or incest, even for children who get pregnant
AmericanViking
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
but but but... LMAO...
Octavia_Melody
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Okay, but there are many conservatives who don't want exceptions in the law for rape or incest, even for children who get pregnant
AmericanViking
1 up, 2y
More but but but.... OMG
2ATom
1 up, 2y, 2 replies
Do you mean the 10 year old girl who was raped by her mother's illegal alien lover?

The state that allows abortion for a 10 year old girl who is raped.

But the mother wouldn't report it because she didn't want her illegal alien lover to be jailed.

So she transported her child across state lines to have an abortion where she didn't have to report her illegal alien lover that raped her 10 year old child.

Do you mean that 10 year old child?
Funguy.
1 up, 2y
If that's actually the case that is really offensive. And it's also offensive from the media because I've never heard that from the press. That would explain why the media dropped that case so suddenly. I was suspicious of that.
Octavia_Melody
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
10 years old is below the age of consent in every state, so no matter what state the child went to for an abortion, the doctor would ask if she was sexually assaulted, and would be required to report it
2ATom
0 ups, 2y
Correct. But once she was across state lines the offender could not be prosecuted in Indiana because Indiana has no standing in the case of the rape.

By the way you won't find any articles they've all been pushed so far down the list that you will never find them.
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Octavia_Melody
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Funguy.
2 ups, 2y, 2 replies
Murder isn't a right. Nobody argues that being able to kill 3 year olds is prioritizing the rights of mothers. (Well a few twisted people do). And nobody should argue this with any baby, whether it's an embryo, a newborn, or a toddler
2ATom
1 up, 2y, 2 replies
There is actually a movement of foot but to allow parents to kill their babies after birth the argument is how long after birth is it 7 days or one year or more?
Funguy.
1 up, 2y
I think atm the argument is up to 28 days
Funguy.
1 up, 2y
It's crazy because 10 years ago if a republican said that was gonna be fought for in 10 years the left would've called them paranoid and said they were just making up crazy crap about the left. Yet here we are...
Octavia_Melody
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Abortion isn't murder

"Nobody argues that being able to kill 3 year olds is prioritizing the rights of mothers"

Red herring fallacy. Killing a 3 year old isn't abortion.

"And nobody should argue this with any baby, whether it's an embryo, a newborn, or a toddler"

An embryo isn't a baby
Funguy.
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
Abortion is a modern word. Its definition is constantly being changed. Because as I said, this group changes science to suit their whims. And that is exactly why "an embryo isn't a baby". Because doctors who make money from abortions and politicians who get votes for supporting it, those people don't want it to be. I wonder why...
Octavia_Melody
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
"Abortion is a modern word"

It goes back to the 16th Century

"Its definition is constantly being changed"

It's not constantly being changed

"And that is exactly why "an embryo isn't a baby". "

No, it's because the word "baby" has a definition and the word "embryo" has a definition, and they aren't the same definition.
Funguy.
1 up, 2y
thats not that old in the grand scheme of history. Thats age of enlightenment time, and it wasn't popular until much later in history. 

People saying you should be able to have abortions after birth are changing the definition. Matter of fact, when it started people weren't even saying abortion past the first few weeks of pregnancy was legitimate. Oh how the times change. 

Yeah, and they're being changed by people's feelings. An embryo is a baby. A baby is not necessarily an embryo. But people don't want them to be the same thing bc that would dismantle their pro-chpice argument, so they changed the definition.
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5 ups, 2y, 2 replies
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Kuzul
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Pff, sorry, you can't change me
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4 ups, 2y, 2 replies
Funguy.
2 ups, 2y
And then you can argue that you were prioritizing home owner rights by shooting the thief. Ofc since the thief actually did something this is even less ridiculous than abortion. Though nobody will argue this because it's obviously wrong.
Kuzul
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Lol
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4 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Kuzul
1 up, 2y
I'm not a thief
Kuzul
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
No, the example would be a job:

Imagine if you got paid the amount you need to sustain yourself with basic and complex needs, so you won't need 3 jobs, just one would be enough for your family
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Kuzul
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
That's what I meant
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4 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Kuzul
1 up, 2y
And that's wrong, because people deserve to live, no matter their skill
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