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There are many places where LGBT are oppressed but the west isn't one of them

There are many places where LGBT are oppressed but the west isn't one of them | How LGBT people are oppressed in the Middle East; Your existence is a hideous abomination in the eyes of Allah! You shall answer to the sword! How LGBT people are oppressed in Eastern Europe; You're not even human, you're an ideology! You shall be sent to prison just for possession of that flag! How LGBT people are "oppressed" in the west; I'm sorry but you can't teach polyamorus pansexual gender non-binary theory to kids younger than Grade 4. REEEEEEEEEEE! | image tagged in memes,blank transparent square,lgbtq,liberal logic,sjws | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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7 ups, 2y,
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so many americans dont know how good they have it. If black americans went to live in africa today, theyd be booking flights back in less then a week.
3 ups, 2y
Oh boy, I bet you’re still in charter school.
3 ups, 2y,
2 replies
I'm sure the centuries of western colonialism couldn't possibly have anything to do with that.
4 ups, 2y
More like the generations of western privilege.

You know, things like abundance of food, abundance of technological comfort, and a much lower rate of getting pressganged into child armies and being murdered if you try to run.
4 ups, 2y
With what? Them not knowing how good America is?
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5 ups, 2y
Upvote+++++
3 ups, 2y
Upvote
3 ups, 2y,
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Funny how the least LGBT-friendly government systems are either Marxist or Muslim and yet Christians get the brunt of the community's hostility. Saudi will kill you for being gay and you rarely hear about how oppressive Muslims are to the community. Why? Bc Islam is also an 'oppressed minority' and thus is politically protected from all attacks.
2 ups, 2y,
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Leftists scream homophobia when a Christian or right-wing politician or political commentator does as much as say something a gay person disagrees with but the left ignore the fact that Islamic fundamentalists not say violent things against gays but actively harm the gays. Another ironic thing, the far-left supports lgbt rights and Marxism but Marxist socialist nations are not well-known for lgbt rights. The USSR, Venezuela and Zimbabwe banned lgbt rights, despite being economically far-left, Joseph Stalin, Hugo Chavez and Robert Mugabe were socially right-wing and pro-nuclear family, in fact Chavez and Mugabe were Catholics.
0 ups, 2y
Yes, a large reason this is the case is the merging of Freudianism with American Marxism that took over schools in the 30s. This happened because Marxists eventually realized that victimizing people causes hate, and as Hitler once said, "Hatred is a splendid unifier". This is why the left coddled blacks in the 60s, reversing the effects of blacks beginning to make names and careers for themselves and encouraging them to be lazy so that they could blame slavery on them not having opportunities. All that's happened since is that the left has just invented more communities to victimize so more people can be involved. This is why supporting homosexuality suddenly became a political movement in the early 10s. And as the 20s came, more and more groups that can call themselves victimized were created until its now just "be whatever you want". If you want to be trans-racial, be transracial. But it's important to remember that these same "pioneers" of these American left-wing movements were hostile to these very ideas once upon a time. And the countries already taken over by leftists have stayed hostile to these communities. The American left cannot say this, however, bc all hate MUST be pinned on the right.
Some Marxists may have believed in God but others like Stalin, Lenin, Fidel, etc. hated God. Stalin died raising his fist to the heavens. Lenin grew up in a Christian home and despised God after graduating the hellhole called the University of Paris, as did many communist leaders who went home and took their countries over. One leader grew up Muslim and ditched it and took his home over. Marxism is based on 'there is no God', and Paris University killed all their faiths. It's hard to believe in God and be Marxist, you basically believe in another god.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
i am muslim and this is uhh
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
then socialism and communism aren't your friend
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
they are
0 ups, 2y,
2 replies
they’ve historically been hostile to your religion, they’ve only been friendly to it in america because it’s a minority religion that they can use for victimhood and self-promotion. if these people get in power they won’t care about you.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
oh minority? sure, 3.6 billion muslims on earth, 2nd most biggest religion on earth, you were saying something?
0 ups, 2y
I'm just using the left's argument. I don't think calling Islam a minority makes sense either. But again, I don't think much of what they say makes sense.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
if you mean minority in america, i still support them because they dont like nato because nato does warcrimes
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
but the president's kid took a billion dollar buyout from a dictator that oppressed his country... right before the election...
Both sides have messed up people, I'm not denying that. And Stalin and Mao both were worse than anything NATO does.
0 ups, 2y
say that last part again and i have no idea what im even gonna do
somalia, palestine, afghanistan, iraq, iran, syria, and yemen: you make children starve, and then call out 1 nation that doesnt exist anymore for doing the same?
5 ups, 2y,
2 replies
This meme is an excellent example of a fallacy called relative privation. The fallacy of relative privation rejects an argument by stating the existence of a more important problem. The existence of such a worse issue, the fallacy insists, thereby makes the initial argument irrelevant. This fallacy is also known as the appeal to worse problems or “not as bad as”.

If you actually have the resources to fix one problem, which we do, and saying a different issue is “not as bad as” another is perfectly reasonable. In fact, the comparison itself isn’t problematic. The issue lies in asserting the original claim should be ignored because it is not the worst thing ever.

Just because your problems aren’t as big as they could be doesn’t mean you have to settle for them: always work to make them more manageable. Otherwise, they might start to become indistinguishable from those worst-case scenarios.
6 ups, 2y,
2 replies
This meme is true. Bleating about oppression when you are not being oppressed. Bleating about wanting special rights and considerations is not the same as true oppression that is suffered in other parts of the world.
5 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Your point isn’t the point. The meme doesn’t negate the privation it points to its relative absurdity.
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
I at least agree it is absurd to discriminate and kill people based on their sexuality but that doesn’t appear to be the OP’s intent.

How might have you come to this conclusion?
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
I see the OP portraying the absurdity of claiming oppression for not being allowed to sexualize children or promoting their personal kink. All while others face true oppression elsewhere.
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
That would still fall under the relative privation fallacy.
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1 up, 2y,
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1 up, 2y,
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Only cowards disable comments.

Your name.

I have no interest in appealing my temporary ban. I would be lying if I said I wasn’t testing my limits. Still, I tried to be respectful and will endeavor to do so.

I realize of course your name more refers to meme posters who disable all comments.

But the notification as I was replying to you literally said that my comments were disabled. I just found it funny.

There is a difference in saying “some conservatives are partisan” and “only conservatives are partisan”.

Partisanry is neither the sole domain of either liberalism nor communism.

I was quite disappointed that we were unable to debate. I’ve been quite an admirer of your comments and your name in particular. There was a meme on the frontpage Politics stream that disabled their comments. Shame, really. Cowards come from many ideologies, it appears.
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1 up, 2y,
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1 up, 2y
You didn’t. Just clarifying my position.

And I know.
4 ups, 2y,
1 reply
How are LGBTQ oppressed?
1 up, 2y,
2 replies
Threats of violence, physical attacks, and people trying to undo laws that guarantee them the same legal protections as everyone else
0 ups, 2y
Many groups suffer threats of violence and physical attacks. What laws guaranteeing protection are being undone? Why do they get special protection that isn’t afforded every other citizen?
1 up, 2y
That killing just a couple of blocks from Stonewall I had mentioned...
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1 up, 2y,
1 reply
2 ups, 2y
I appreciate you writing my to do list for this week.
2 ups, 2y,
2 replies
Sadly it's kinda true, people take being LGBTQIA+ as an excuse to say they are being oppressed. Although in the rest of the American continent, it's like Europe.
And everyone should normalize being LGBTQIA+ to kids from the beginning, that way they won't discriminate.
8 ups, 2y,
3 replies
Just to be clear, I don't hate on people for being lgbtq+ what I can't stand is insufferable people who use lgbtq+ labels as an excuse to lash out at anyone they disagree with and push a toxic divisive political agenda. I do believe we should tell kids not to be homophobic and explain why their friend Johnny has two daddies but I am not for teaching kids certain concepts in sex ed they're too young to understand or using lgbtq+ labels as an excuse to be perverted near kids, have you heard about that trans shop teacher in Ontario, Canada that came to class with large breast implants? Or the teacher in Florida who took kids to gay bar? And the Texas drag bar incident? I also heard that certain teachers like to teach kids as young as kindergarten or grade 1 about whether they can know about their own sexuality, for crying out loud, a prepubescent kid can't feel sexuality or understand what it is, it's not appropriate to teach such concepts to kids at a young age. It is no wonder some teachers are being called 'groomers'. Also it is true Southern American nations like Venezuela are homophobic as Eastern European nations like Russia and the Ukraine, Western European nations like Denmark, Spain, etc. are some of the most pro-LGBTQ+ nations in the world.
1 up, 2y
Oh, man I didn't know that.
But that's basically what I was referring to.
5 ups, 2y,
3 replies
You are strawmanning me, I never wanted LGBTQ+ to be denied basic legal protections, I don't want gay sex criminalized, I don't want gay marriage banned, I don't want gays to be denied the right to adopt children, I do not push such a toxic divisive agenda of which you speak so stop making false accusations against me.

People are using lgbt politics as an excuse to be perverted near kids such as the Florida teacher who took them to a gay bar and the Canada shop teacher. The reason why I care about the latter is because the shop teacher obviously purposely got unrealistically large was using it as an excuse to be inappropriate the kids, are you too blind to realize that is obviously inappropriate conduct at a school? Also your 'cis woman' argument is an irrelevant red herring like any of your other red herrings. I also wouldn't be ok with a cis woman using unrealistically large implants to be inappropriate near kids.

Another thing, a kid as young as kindergarten or grade 1 or even grade 2 can't understand such concepts, teaching such concepts to kids that can't understand at a very young age is inappropriate. Why does teaching kindergarteners about sex-ed matter to you so much? Would it kill you wait until kids are in an older grade old enough to understand such concepts such as closer to puberty when understanding what sexuality is relavent when hitting puberty and not an age when one is far from hitting puberty.

Another question is, are some teachers being called groomers just as a personal attack for lgbt at all or are certain that are being called groomers actually guilty of inappropriate behavior near kids? I would never call a gay person who is not harming kids in any way and is minding their own business and doing their own thing with partner but when a person takes kids to a drag bar, I don't hesitate to call out what inappropriate behavior it is.
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1 up, 2y,
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6 ups, 2y,
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Or he can stay right here as long as he doesn’t attack them. There is no requirement everyone must accept homosexuality. Just can’t use it as a basis for discrimination in the workplace.
4 ups, 2y,
2 replies
I was referring to the US, where we are still free to think and speak how we like.
4 ups, 2y,
1 reply
If the lefties have their way, that is going to be taken away... Group think is all that will be allowed...
4 ups, 2y,
3 replies
I know, they think the Morality police in Iran are evil but they want to be the same. They’re Hypocrisy knows no limits.
3 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Sure got that right...
1 up, 2y
No because liberals are trying to criminalize any one who speaks in opposition like parents at school board meetings or harassment of political opposition.
1 up, 2y
See below, where have the “moral majority”required head coverings? When did they roam the streets policing behavior? Yet we see the totalitarian leanings of the intolerant left in the Iranian moral
Police who go around arresting people for social observance or thought crimes.
0 ups, 2y
Within limits, they do not have discriminatory rights in violation of US law.
0 ups, 2y
sniffle
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    How LGBT people are oppressed in the Middle East; Your existence is a hideous abomination in the eyes of Allah! You shall answer to the sword! How LGBT people are oppressed in Eastern Europe; You're not even human, you're an ideology! You shall be sent to prison just for possession of that flag! How LGBT people are "oppressed" in the west; I'm sorry but you can't teach polyamorus pansexual gender non-binary theory to kids younger than Grade 4. REEEEEEEEEEE!