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9 ups, 2y,
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They are too young to vote. That's why they hate children.
7 ups, 2y,
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Hence the K-12 grooming and college brainwashing.
4 ups, 2y,
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There is no K-12 grooming
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Really? Teachers don’t groom K-12 students at all?
3 ups, 2y,
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Not on the scale he's implying
3 ups, 2y,
1 reply
I thought there was none though?
2 ups, 2y
“There is no K-12 grooming”
That means none.
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
lol
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2 ups, 2y,
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0 ups, 2y
I got 8hrs yesterday for calling that memer a "newb"!!!!
3 ups, 2y
You mean the thing Ron DeSantis made up to fuel his culture wars and that thing called education that debunks conservative lies?
3 ups, 2y,
3 replies
They are often Hispanic. That's why conservatives hate immigrants
4 ups, 2y,
1 reply
The flood of immigrants illegally crossing our southern border are mostly Hispanic.
It’s idiotic of you to say conservatives “hate” them because they’re Hispanic.
0 ups, 2y,
2 replies
Not to him it ain't:

"Bluessol

Immigrant aren’t the problem, illegal immigration is. Illegally changing the countries demographics is meant to achieve what goal?"
1 up, 2y
Answer the question. What is the purpose to achieve by unchecked Illegal immigration.
1 up, 2y
I was replying to Octovia. Go argue with Bluessol yourself.
3 ups, 2y,
2 replies
Immigrant aren’t the problem, illegal immigration is. Illegally changing the countries demographics is meant to achieve what goal?
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Illegally changing WHAT demographics? Meant to achieve WHAT goal?
0 ups, 2y,
2 replies
Promoting illegal Immigration to the United States is illegal and a violation of the constitution. What is the goal of not enforcing our borders? What are the democrats trying to achieve?
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Ask them or look it up.
0 ups, 2y
You tell me, you’re the one calling it racist not to want unchecked illegal immigration. What’s the point of unchecked illegal Immigration?
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0 ups, 2y,
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Rinos and leftists all go to the same cell I guess. I’m fine with that.
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“...says the guy that DIDNT vote for joe! i guess u dont realize the f#cktard u voted for, is the one that HELPED biden win the election! and win BIG!! he set a record!! HAHAHA!! THAT burn has gotta sting!!”

The fact you believe that actually happened means you probably believe all joes Twitter followers are real too!
0 ups, 2y,
2 replies
So they are real deal trumplicans meaning they are all about the MAGA King 🤴 and they support him?
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0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
0 ups, 2y
Only if you live on a land of delusion and leftist propaganda.
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0 ups, 2y
Meaning they are RINOS and equally as traitorous as the new democrat party.
2 ups, 2y,
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Oh please tell me more about your not racist replacement theory
3 ups, 2y,
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You tell me the purpose of unchecked illegal immigration?
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Probably to escape to a safer country than from where they came
2 ups, 2y,
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Why should we let them in? No other country in the world let’s people March across their borders to be taken care of.
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1 up, 2y,
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Of course I’m serious. Are you?
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1 up, 2y
None of those countries allow illegal immigration. Most have refugees in camps or are kept in ghettos. Is that what you are proposing? Unchecked Illegal immigration will overwhelm the countries ability to support them without a drastic reduction to all citizens standard of living.
0 ups, 2y
"...lol, they live inna reality free bubble!"

Totally disconnected,,,
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1 up, 2y,
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You misspelled left
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1 up, 2y
I know the left make me cringe too.
2 ups, 2y,
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Said who?
Various European countries have been inundated with them, Turkey has loads (tho most in transit), Jordan's population is half of Palestine, Israel's (citizen) population is nearly all foreign in origin, Iran has the highest number of refugees in the world (gotta verify that in case things have changed in recent years), Chad has a ton from Sudan, South Africans complain about Nigerians 'taking over' like we do about Mexicans, Haitians in the Dominican Republic is a big issue, there are 10s of 1000s of Canadian illegals in the USA that no one knows or cares about,,,

... I was thinking earlier today about how many Italians from here that I've known that have relatives (or they themselves that had lived) in Venezuela, Columbia, Mexico, Argentina,,,
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I don’t expect a no nations no borders proponent to understand. No other country is allowing this many immigrants on in this short a period of time without placing them
In refugee camps. We’re talking millions not thousands. What is the point of allowing unchecked illegal Immigration?
0 ups, 2y,
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Said who?
Various European countries have been inundated with them, Turkey has loads (tho most in transit), Jordan's population is half of Palestine, Israel's (citizen) population is nearly all foreign in origin, Iran has the highest number of refugees in the world (gotta verify that in case things have changed in recent years), Chad has a ton from Sudan, South Africans complain about Nigerians 'taking over' like we do about Mexicans, Haitians in the Dominican Republic is a big issue, there are 10s of 1000s of Canadian illegals in the USA that no one knows or cares about,,,

... I was thinking earlier today about how many Italians from here that I've known that have relatives (or they themselves that had lived) in Venezuela, Columbia, Mexico, Argentina,
1 up, 2y
I don’t expect a no nations no borders proponent to understand. No other country is allowing this many immigrants on in this short a period of time without placing them
In refugee camps. We’re talking millions not thousands. What is the point of allowing unchecked illegal Immigration?
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They do what thing you are all over the board. Pick a stream and respond on it.
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0 ups, 2y
Nope, no country allows uncontrolled immigration. Equating a country that takes in refugees with immigration is sophomoric.
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hahaha, ask him what his ethnic background is!
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1 up, 2y
Sharia Law IS how they lived back then. The Koran was written because the Bible was a corruption of the Word by the Beast of......... Rome.
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0 ups, 2y
They don't believe in anything. No science, not religion, not values, not their heroes, not even themselves. That's why they always sound like they're trying to convince everyone, because they're trying to prove it to themselves. Their fragile egos are the product of lack of self-awareness steeped in the void of hopelessness.
0 ups, 2y
Dude, while he's cramming your notifs, your replying to yourself.
And in case you haven't noticed, he's not exceedingly adept at getting it.
0 ups, 2y
Black Republicans too?
0 ups, 2y
Sure ask me
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So you’re for the entire world immigrating to America? Who is going to support them all. Why not invite several to stay with you. Generous Big mouth with other peoples money ain’t ya.
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0 ups, 2y
Your belief that illegal
Immigrants exist in a vacuum and don’t use any resources like fire, medical, police schooling, roads, etc is an obvious falsehood easily refuted with common sense. Of course if you don’t possess any that makes it difficult.
0 ups, 2y
You realize we aren’t in the 18th century right? Whatever lefty you quoted is not from California and in every state their children go to school, they utilize services like emergency rooms etc. Your naivety is astonishing.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
What is this question you keep referring to?
This is the web, son, look it up already.

You CAN do that, no?
0 ups, 2y
The one that inspired you to butt in to the conversation in the first place. What is the purpose of uncontrolled immigration and your support of it?
0 ups, 2y,
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Are you always this confused about YOUR own posts?
If you can't recall or make sense of a reply you made mere minutes ago, perhaps you shouldn't bother?
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⏺️ "Modda 0 ups, <1h, 1 reply

What is this question you keep referring to?
This is the web, look it up already."

You CAN do that, no?

⏺️ "Bluessol 0 ups, <1h

The one that inspired you to butt in to the conversation in the first place. What is the purpose of uncontrolled immigration and your support of it?

That weren't no question none"

▶️ "Bluessol 2 ups, 4d, 6 replies

... No other country in the world let’s people March across their borders to be taken care of."

▶️ "Modda 3 ups, 4d, 1 reply

Said who?
Various European countries have been inundated with them, Turkey has loads (tho most in transit), Jordan's population is half of Palestine, Israel's (citizen) population is nearly all foreign in origin, Iran has the highest number of refugees in the world (gotta verify that in case things have changed in recent years), Chad has a ton from Sudan, South Africans complain about Nigerians 'taking over' like we do about Mexicans, Haitians in the Dominican Republic is a big issue, there are 10s of 1000s of Canadian illegals in the USA that no one knows or cares about,,,

... I was thinking earlier today about how many Italians from here that I've known that have relatives (or they themselves that had lived) in Venezuela, Columbia, Mexico, Argentina,,,"

The question was one asked by me, rhetorical of course, as there weren't any reply you could supply nor were expected to even pretend to try.

This dodging of yours begins to get boring after 4 days a lot?
0 ups, 2y
I’m never confused about my own posts, Sorry you have grammar Nazi disease, but then that’s only when you don’t want to answer the questions right. See if you can stay on topic for once.

What is the purpose of unchecked mass illegal immigration? What is the reason to not secure our borders from mass illegal immigration?
0 ups, 2y,
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Um, they kinda already did. A lot. 100:1 is the ratio of foreign to native?
Ironic too, given that the majority of illegals you decry in your "Race Replacement" Theory have some degree of indigenous blood, most very pronounced.
0 ups, 2y
So are you saying the “native Americans” were racist for not wanting their country invaded?

You really believe we can absorb the entire worlds disaffected immigrants and remain a functioning country? The democrats say exactly why they are doing it. Why pretend you don’t know.
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▶️ Bluessol 0 ups, <1h

You don’t know what a computer processing unit is? It’s a commonly used acronym in tech language. I provided the correction your efforts at being obtuse and inane are entertaining though.

▶️ Bluessol 0 ups, 11h

Country not cpu. Not that you will understand any better. Keep trying, you won’t answer the question so I expect no less. What’s the goal? The democrats state it openly, why can’t you?

▶️ Bluessol0 ups, 17h

Sure they are. Record numbers everyday entering the cpu try from all over the world. When does it stop? Never? Result = No USA. Those that support this current policy are America haters. There is no other explanation.
0 ups, 2y,
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⏺️ "Bluessol 0 ups, <1h

So are you saying the “native Americans” were racist for not wanting their country invaded?

You really believe we can absorb the entire worlds disaffected immigrants and remain a functioning country? The democrats say exactly why they are doing it. Why pretend you don’t know."

hmmm, good question. Just what did I say?
Ah, found it. I said:

▶️ "Modda 0 ups, 3h, 1 reply

Um, they kinda already did. A lot. 100:1 is the ratio of foreign to native?
Ironic too, given that the majority of illegals you decry in your "Race Replacement" Theory have some degree of indigenous blood, most very pronounced."

Do you have any idea what you're replying about?
0 ups, 2y
It’s hilarious how you always rifle through hundreds and even thousands of years of history to justify actions in 2022. It hurts when you have no better argument and have to try and distract from the point. You have no answer because you have no answer. Your masters do though.
0 ups, 2y,
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"Bluessol 0 ups, <1h

And yet, you still can’t answer the question. Why my don’t you just scream racist. Oh right that’s not effective to silence opposition anymore either."

This is kinda almost hilarious except it's kinda almost sad.
You've been having an argument against yourself for days that has no relation to anything I (or anyone) have said, yet persist as if by repeating your nonsense and even adding to it somehow that would make it valid eventually which it kinda hasn't still.

But you keep doing you.
0 ups, 2y
And yet you have to type paragraphs trying to distract and obsfucate to avoid the question repeatedly. 😂
0 ups, 2y,
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⏺️ "Modda 0 ups, <1h, 1 reply

What is this question you keep referring to?
This is the web, look it up already."

You CAN do that, no?

⏺️ "Bluessol 0 ups, <1h

The one that inspired you to butt in to the conversation in the first place. What is the purpose of uncontrolled immigration and your support of it?"

🔷 It weren't no question none:

▶️ "Bluessol 2 ups, 4d, 6 replies

... No other country in the world let’s people March across their borders to be taken care of."

▶️ "Modda 3 ups, 4d, 1 reply

Said who?
Various European countries have been inundated with them, Turkey has loads (tho most in transit), Jordan's population is half of Palestine, Israel's (citizen) population is nearly all foreign in origin, Iran has the highest number of refugees in the world (gotta verify that in case things have changed in recent years), Chad has a ton from Sudan, South Africans complain about Nigerians 'taking over' like we do about Mexicans, Haitians in the Dominican Republic is a big issue, there are 10s of 1000s of Canadian illegals in the USA that no one knows or cares about,,,

... I was thinking earlier today about how many Italians from here that I've known that have relatives (or they themselves that had lived) in Venezuela, Columbia, Mexico, Argentina,,,"

🔷 The question was one asked by me, rhetorical of course, as there weren't any reply you could supply nor were expected to even pretend to try.

This dodging of yours begins to get boring after 4 days a lot?
0 ups, 2y
You still don’t answer the simple question. I didn’t ask for your soliloquy on the history of immigration. I asked, What is the purpose of supporting uncontrolled illegal immigration to the United States?
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0 ups, 2y,
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What’s the point of allowing unchecked illegal immigration. Have you ever paid taxes? Got a job?
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I could counter ea h and every argument, but what s the point. Supporting uncontrolled illegal immigration is anti American and anti America.
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0 ups, 2y
Sure they are. Record numbers everyday entering the cpu try from all over the world. When does it stop? Never? Result = No USA. Those that support this current policy are America haters. There is no other explanation.
0 ups, 2y,
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"Record numbers everyday entering the cpu try from all over the world."

What does that mean?
0 ups, 2y
Country not cpu. Not that you will understand any better. Keep trying, you won’t answer the question so I expect no less. What’s the goal? The democrats state it openly, why can’t you?
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⏺️ "Bluessol 0 ups, <1h

You don’t know what a computer processing unit is? It’s a commonly used acronym in tech language."

▶️ "Bluessol0 ups, 10h

Country not cpu. Not that you will understand any better."

Weren't discussing T2, bud.
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Of course I didn't understrand what "cpu" means, it's not a word.

Is this some kind of riddle or quiz? You keep going on about some strange question. Perhaps you should look up the answer if it's that important to you, or is the answer not available in your "cpu"?
0 ups, 2y
You don’t know what a computer processing unit is? It’s a commonly used acronym in tech language. I provided the correction your efforts at being obtuse and inane are entertaining though.
0 ups, 2y
hahaha, thanks, I didn't even notice he got CPU wrong, as I just blur through his replies.

You know when it was finals week, and you've been up late studying and writing papers, then you have to attend some boring speech, and you keep zoning out because it's real boring and you're real tired and you're about to pass out? That's me trying to read most of these soundalike Trumpite comments, especially since for the last month or that I've been getting 4-5hrs of sleep a day.
So I skip a lot of details. And pretty much everything past the 1st half line.

I literally read more of comments to others than to me because I know most of what they're going to say to me already and can't keep my eyes open.

See my T2 reply to him down this thead?:

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3 ups, 2y,
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I don’t give a shit about immigrants if they want to come here go ahead. I do however care about illegal immigrants and even then I don’t care too much, but I do find it to be completely illogical to try and give them more benefits than actual American citizens. I’d heck of a lot rather coexist with some Mexican Catholic person that acknowledges how great a country the US is and therefore moved here than some stuck up atheist Californian who hates America and doesn’t even acknowledge the fact that they literally grew up in a half a million dollar house and still think they’re oppressed. I’d be perfectly fine if all of California left the US and we’re replaced with Mexican immigrants.
4 ups, 2y,
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"I’d heck of a lot rather coexist with some Mexican Catholic person that acknowledges how great a country the US is and therefore moved here than some stuck up atheist Californian who hates America"

Why do you equate atheists with hating America?
2 ups, 2y,
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I equate atheists with the left and I equate the left with hating America
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2 ups, 2y,
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0 ups, 2y
Yup, but it’s a secondary problem for him that you have that instead of brains.
1 up, 2y,
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Yes. I’m glad you understand that my problem is your typical leftist.
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2 ups, 2y,
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Yes, my problem is your typical leftist with feces as a brain.
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1 up, 2y
What projection? You sent a picture of a leftist that was captioned “Well, there’s your problem right there”.
1 up, 2y,
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What you try to equate and what equals reality are two different bowls of jelly, and only one of those is really real.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Those people love America 🇺🇸
0 ups, 2y
Treasonous trailer trash traitor terrorists who love a elitist New York Yankee love wha?
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Correctly
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Then that's your mistake, because "the left" doesn't hate America. Maybe some individuals do, but not everyone on the left.

I see plenty of bigotry and racism and violence from conservatives. Does that mean I should equate all conservatives with those things?
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“I see plenty of bigotry and racism and violence from conservatives. Does that mean I should equate all conservatives with those things?”

Well, no you should not. But that’s completely different leftist beliefs are entirely based around socialism and communism, whereas America was made around the idea that all men were in fact created equal and deserved equal opportunity. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
whereas your typical socialist believe that they themselves deserve immediate happiness rather than the capability to pursuit and earn that happiness.
I advice you to pay extra attention to “that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness“ ‘cause that makes an important point that under atheistic belief there is no logical conclusion for why all human life should be equal. For an example under atheist belief homosexual people are evolutionarily inferior in comparison to heterosexual people for they cannot reproduce and therefore have no direct benefit towards humanity’s existence. Further more with atheist belief logically speaking any rational atheist would commit suicide because the struggles of life outweigh the enjoyment and you believe that there is in fact no afterlife. There’s no semi universal conservative belief that indicates racism, you could however argue bigotry. But I would object to that with the fact that bigotry indicates bias or loathing against a particular group without any proper reasoning. For an example if you held prejudice against a terrorist organization that would not be bigotry for the fact that they put your life at risk. So most modern conservatives don’t care what people do in their bedroom, but they do care if their child’s teacher decides to teach their kid about what they do in their bedroom. Or they might not support a bunch of grown ass men marching around a city with their d*cks hanging out ‘cause they believe that if it’s wrong to openly show a child porn why is it valid for someone to walk around a public area naked. Further more if someone does not wants grand children it would be a logical conclusion to try and minimize the probability of your child growing up to be homosexual. So all of that said I’d say most conservatives aren’t bigots.
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⏺️ "But that’s completely different leftist beliefs are entirely based around socialism and communism, whereas America was made around the idea that all men were in fact created equal and deserved equal opportunity. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
whereas your typical socialist believe that they themselves deserve immediate happiness rather than the capability to pursuit and earn that happiness.
I advice you to pay extra attention to “that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness“ "

▶️ "But that’s completely different leftist beliefs are entirely based around socialism and communism,"

🔶 That's just silly.

▶️ "America was made around the idea that all men were in fact created equal and deserved equal opportunity."

🔶 The USA was intended to be governed by a neu aristocratic class who would select the president and other goverment officials,
Then it was a monied landowner class of W.A.S.P. males that would have a vote,
Then it was W.A.S.P males but mitigated by the Electoral Colege because the Founding Fathers believed the average voter would be too stupid to make an informed choice, but they also feared American Revolution Pt II which would really suck for them because there was no Atlantic between them and the rebels they thought so lowly of, unlike with the British Crown.

▶️ “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and ⏭️the pursuit of Happiness.”⏮️
whereas your typical socialist believe that they themselves ⏭️deserve immediate happiness⏮️ rather than the capability to ⏭️pursuit and earn that happiness."⏮️

▶️ "I advice you to pay extra attention to “that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness“ "

You should take your own advice, as demonstrated above.
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“You should take your own advice, as demonstrated above.”

What do you mean? I support the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Now democrats on the other hand believe that all humans don’t in fact deserve the right to life, businesses should be more diverse and therefore reject one potential employer completely based around that they already have enough people of that skin tone, and that you should not have to pursue happiness but rather have others who worked hard for their happiness hand that happiness down to you for free.
1 up, 2y,
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It ain't what I mean, those are YOUR words that contradict yourself - not that there's any indication you've actually read them as you repeat the same exact terms making the same exact points yet as an argument against each other.

You support nothing other than empty partisan hack propaganda which you've not even bothered reading.
1 up, 2y
I believe that every homo sapien deserves the right to live, I believe that every adult citizen of the United States of America deserves equal rights to vote and equal ability to get a job, and I believe that everyone should have an equal chance to work hard and achieve happiness. What’s wrong with the idea that people shouldn’t be discriminated against going by gender or skin color? What’s wrong with the idea that human life shouldn’t be treated as something that is easily disposable? What’s wrong with the idea that people should have to work hard in order to achieve greatness?
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The gender wage gap is fake. Men get paid more than men cause some men work harder than other men. Furthermore the average woman cannot physically work as hard as the average man because the average man is naturally stronger. All men were CREATED equal, not all men ARE equal. As a baby you’re both equally incapable, but by the age of 7 whoever studied harder is now superior.
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My country doesn’t do anything to Palestinians but I get your anti semitism is showing through again
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Check his reply right below! The Great Depression was caused by the USA voting Socialist according to his meme!

Irony, given that FDR used his dreaded socialism to bail us out and modernize the South and West while he was at it, and added to that his taking over of needed industries during WII to assist with the war effort.
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It’s your fault you suck at Americaning, not mine.
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1 up, 2y
That’s not socialism, you are simplistic and confused.
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"...satan wanted to be the ruler of this world and make people do what he wanted. satan is not a fan of free will."

Nothing could be further from the truth.
Satan, or "the Satan" was an advesary, an accuser - like a prosecutor in court - on God's behalf - seated with him and the rest of the Gods at the Divine Council.

If you're referring to Genesis, Satan was never mentioned in the Eden story.
The Serpent God was another entity if that's whom you're referring to, and he gifted people with free will. The other God was opposed to this, cast them out, and became an oppressive ruler promising punishment for those who don't worship him and follow his commands.

You see the same thing in the NT with Satan tempting Jesus in the desert to use.... his free will.
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So what I said then?

Ok, first, it is proper to use quotation marks and to cite the source for copypastes, second, reading it before posting is also helpful. If you did, you would see it contradicted this that you said:

"i learned satan, the devil, the father of lies, the adversary.... whatever u want to call him, was once just an angel, a beautiful angel. his head got a little too big and he wanted to play the role of jesus but without the pesky free will."

and backed what I stated.

Your c/p even answered your opening question:
"Divine Council?"
IS the
"heavenly court"

One supreme God, Satan as nemesis, the concept of a spirit non-corporeal soul, heaven, hell, paradise, good vs evil and the constant battle between them and that culminating in the the apocalypse, even Jesus himself are all Zoroastrian/Iranian introductions (Mithra, the template for Sol Invictus and Jesus, actually predates Zoroastrianism and was later co-opted into some streams of it). The concept of a redeemer savior is believed to be Zoroastrain as well, however given the lack of recorded material dated early enough, there may have been some cross polination going on there so it is somewhat possible they didn't come up with it first, although in light of eveything else stated that the Jewish & Christian faiths borrowed....

Satan was not the Serpent God, not Lucifer, nor the Devil, nor the rest of the other characters lumped together as him. Did the Serpent prosecute Adam & Eve in the Heavenly Court on behalf of God? Kinda not at all.
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You replied to my comment instead of Titanic106 as you intended.

btw, that memer you asked that mod why he got away with calling others "idiots" the other day? I got 8 hours yesterday. For calling him a "newb." A NEWB! MEanwhile his insults weren't deleted!

I was looking for that comment of yours to tell you, but can't find it now.
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I don't get it, this stream is full of replies from you to the wrong person or to yourself!

You can't scroll up one little bitty extra comment and post to whom you intend to post it to? You managed to do that to me a couple of hours ago, replying to a temporary comment I posted to myself in case my tablet loses it in process, as it sometimes switches pages because of that weird "Hot Keys" feature that they have to have because they named the site over it. Start spelling "Done" and you might just get 'flipped' to a random senseless meme from 5 years ago and lose what you were typing.
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Thing is the one you're supposed to be addressing will get no notification of it and thus won't see it but I will and it'll be yet another I have to get past while searching for replies I've yet to get to. Ever go looking for one from 2 or 3 days ago so how much can that be till you find yourself paging through tons and still not finding it?
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"I believe that every adult citizen of the United States of America deserves equal rights to vote and equal ability to get a job, and I believe that everyone should have an equal chance to work hard and achieve happiness."

As long as they're of a certain ilk, right? A silly shallow irrelevant partisan one, no less, that resorts to fear mongering based on fanfic tropes and the overinflated importance of idealogies which you've taken upon yourself to assign to people like they were some sort of defining and limiting truth.

What you believe in is in the casting of 'the other' and that as a means of marginalizing some in order to elevate yourself in your own eyes because self esteem is such an emaciated creature in dire need of relief,,,
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“As long as they're of a certain ilk, right? A silly shallow irrelevant partisan one, no less, that resorts to fear mongering based on fanfic tropes and the overinflated importance of idealogies which you've taken upon yourself to assign to people like they were some sort of defining and limiting truth.”

What do you mean? I believe anyone of any religion, any racism, any sex, and any gender should be able to get a job as long as they met the necessary requirements for that job. For an example I don’t entirely believe women shouldn’t be in the military, but I do believe they should have all the same physical requirements as men. Now you’re idea of “limiting truth” is completely illogical there is but one truth and no more. You can’t simply create a new truth to fit your own personal feelings. (I.e You can’t read that gender is a social construct and then make 75 other genders, but rather once you realize that you should aim to go purely off sex rather than gender. After all the information clearly reveals that there is one truth in this genus which is biological sex and not gender.)
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Yes. Sorta like that. I don’t remember ever saying that Trump won the election. I’ve accepted the truth that the majority of people are in fact stupid enough to vote for the Dementiacrat.
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"Well, no you should not. But that’s completely different leftist beliefs are entirely based around socialism and communism"

If that's how you're using the word "leftist", maybe.

"that makes an important point that under atheistic belief there is no logical conclusion for why all human life should be equal"

Atheism is a position on whether or not a god exists, nothing else. It doesn't say anything one way or the other about equality or the value of life.

"For an example under atheist belief homosexual people are evolutionarily inferior in comparison to heterosexual people for they cannot reproduce and therefore have no direct benefit towards humanity’s existence"

Not even remotely true. Atheism is a position on whether or not a god exists, that's it. Nothing else. Also, evolution doesn't say gay people are inferior to others. And are you saying that straight people who are infertile can't contribute anything to society?

"Further more with atheist belief logically speaking any rational atheist would commit suicide because the struggles of life outweigh the enjoyment and you believe that there is in fact no afterlife"

That's also bullshit. The struggles of life don't always outweigh the enjoyment of life.

"But I would object to that with the fact that bigotry indicates bias or loathing against a particular group without any proper reasoning. For an example if you held prejudice against a terrorist organization that would not be bigotry for the fact that they put your life at risk"

That's not what the word bigotry means.

"So most modern conservatives don’t care what people do in their bedroom"

Plenty do, enough to be a threat to society.

"Or they might not support a bunch of grown ass men marching around a city with their d*cks hanging out ‘cause they believe that if it’s wrong to openly show a child porn why is it valid for someone to walk around a public area naked"

Does that happen often in your neighborhood?

"Further more if someone does not wants grand children it would be a logical conclusion to try and minimize the probability of your child growing up to be homosexual"

Either someone is gay or they aren't. It's not a probability you can "minimize".
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“Atheism is a position on whether or not a god exists, nothing else. It doesn't say anything one way or the other about equality or the value of life.”

Well, yes it does. If you believe there’s no strategist behind every life, logically speaking you shouldn’t find any value in life.

“Not even remotely true. Atheism is a position on whether or not a god exists, that's it. Nothing else. Also, evolution doesn't say gay people are inferior to others. And are you saying that straight people who are infertile can't contribute anything to society?”

No, because I believe that an omnipotent all powerful infinite being dwelling inside a different world crated all humans with a purpose. Now if I believed the universe just spontaneously generated out of a bunch of gas and there was no higher meaning to the universe and therefore no higher meaning to existence then I would most likely believe that infertile heterosexual people are in fact inferior to fertile heterosexual people.

“That's not what the word bigotry means.“

“obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.“

Now if you’re going off the obstinate attachment version, you could easily say anyone with political opinions at all is in fact a bigot, so I think it’s safe to conclude that the logical definition in this case is strictly unreasonable attachment to a belief. So if someone has a reason backing their opinion up they’re automatically not a bigot. Even if they’re reason is the Bible or some other form of scripture as long as they also have a reason to believe in whatever religious teachings they believe in.

“Does that happen often in your neighborhood?”

No, but it’s happened in other places this is at the very least NSFW, but here’s an example: https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/toronto-july-04-totally-naked-members-56522155

“Either someone is gay or they aren't. It's not a probability you can "minimize".”

Well, I’d argue that the legitimate sexual attraction towards the same sex is not something you can minimize, but you can minimize the amount of encouragement to behave in those ways. For an example if a public grade school teacher started talking about how they married the same sex and that it’s so great, their students may start thinking they in fact should also marry their same sex because their teacher who they see as a role model did.
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"What we’re talking about is purely the purpose of existence questions such as “Why do I live?”, “What is the point of living?”, or “Why do I fear the empty void of death when I don’t even have an immortal spiritual manifestation to even experience that void?”. The answer to those questions cannot be answered with Atheist belief"

I have to keep repeating that atheism is about whether or not a god exists, nothing else. Atheism doesn't say anything about the meaning or purpose of life.
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The meaning of life is life. Simple.
If people stopped wasting time with seeking meaning or purpose in life, then they can get on with it and maybe do something actually more worthwhile than proving how amazingly special they are.
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"I think the point all those quotes is that we ourselves have no worth, but God has worth and we were made to serve God. In other words the only way to find worth in existence is to follow the meaning of our existence which is to serve God. But under atheist belief there is no deity that you were made to serve and therefore there is no meaning to your existence."

The theme is repeated in those quotes, how can you still miss the point?
Who said we were made to serve God? How? Why? Since when do Gods need the service of their pet monkey people?

In other words, you CAN"T find worth in existence because there IS NO meaning to our existence, even if it was as butlers to God. Therefore there is NO meaning to your existence. If you do believe in a Divinity which created us, then we are nothing other than specks of dust whose any notion of value or impact is born out of vanity and that will be gone when you are.

And there is nothing wrong with that.
Live life. Appreciate life. Try to do what is beneficial to others with your life.
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“The theme is repeated in those quotes, how can you still miss the point?
Who said we were made to serve God? How? Why? Since when do Gods need the service of their pet monkey people?”

Well, whoever said they “need” it, it could simply just be that they find enjoyment in it. Why else would they create us?
"Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" (22:37-39).
Jesus himself said the two most important commandments were to love God with all thy heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind and love thy neighbor as thyself. Now we believe that we were created in the image and likeness of God and therefore by loving and serving your neighbor you’re serving God.
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"No, because I believe that an omnipotent all powerful infinite being dwelling inside a different world crated all humans with a purpose. Now if I believed the universe just spontaneously generated out of a bunch of gas and there was no higher meaning to the universe and therefore no higher meaning to existence"

Humans are of no more significance than a slight breeze wafting past unnoticed, as anyone who has ever recieved a pre-frontal lobotomy can tell you. If that divine spark that makes each of us so very very special wasn't excised with the swift licks of a blade, that is.
Because there lies the secret of the mind, that ether of consciousness, that seat that elevates us to the realm of the God-like.... a glob of material that when cut, somehow lets that magic ghost that inhabits our skulls dissipate quicker than a fart in a wind tunnel. That which we glorify the most about ourselves is nothing but an illusion crafted by our vanity, the urge to feel that we're special.

But don't take my word for it, listen the The Word:

Ecclesiastes 1:2-3
1These are the words of the Teacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem: 2“Futility of futilities,” says the Teacher, “futility of futilities! Everything is futile!” 3What does a man gain from all his labor, at which he toils under the sun?…

Romans 8:20
For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but because of the One who subjected it, in hope

Psalm 39:5
You, indeed, have made my days as handbreadths, and my lifetime as nothing before You. Truly each man at his best exists as but a breath. Selah

Psalm 39:6
Surely every man goes about like a phantom; surely he bustles in vain; he heaps up riches not knowing who will haul them away.

Psalm 62:9
Lowborn men are but a vapor, the exalted but a lie. Weighed on the scale, they go up; together they are but a vapor.

Psalm 89:47
Remember the briefness of my lifespan! For what futility You have created all men!

Psalm 144:4
Man is like a breath; his days are like a passing shadow

Ecclesiastes 2:11,15,17,19,21,23,26
Then I looked on all the works that my hands had wrought, and on the labour that I had laboured to do: and, behold, all was vanity and vexation of spirit, and there was no profit under the sun…

Ecclesiastes 3:19
For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
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1 John 2:15
“Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.”

I think the point all those quotes is that we ourselves have no worth, but God has worth and we were made to serve God. In other words the only way to find worth in existence is to follow the meaning of our existence which is to serve God. But under atheist belief there is no deity that you were made to serve and therefore there is no meaning to your existence.
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"Yes it is in fact impossible. Because in a world where everything was created without purpose the universe itself would hold no purpose. So no matter how much a meaningless life searches for meaning in meaningless things in the end the meaningless life can gain no meaning as long is there is no meaning to gain."

So by your logic, money doesn't exist, because the universe didn't create it. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but people can and do give their own lives meaning. It doesn't have to be objective in order to exist.
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“So by your logic, money doesn't exist, because the universe didn't create it. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but people can and do give their own lives meaning. It doesn't have to be objective in order to exist.”

Money does exist, but in the end it is no more than cotton, paper, and metals. But rather the idea behind money is what give it value, because those materials represent the value of the work you put into earning the money, but at it’s heart the money itself is not worth anything. For an example there’s trading cards that are “worth” $100,000+, but in reality they’re no more special than any other 20 year old piece of paper covered with dyes and plastic. But you could argue that what makes it worth a lot is the effort the owner put into keeping the card in mint condition, so the same could be said about money is that the money isn’t worth anything but rather the work that was put into achieving that money. But that is purely concepts of “worth” which are simply rationalized in peoples’ heads to find ways to measure labor. What we’re talking about is purely the purpose of existence questions such as “Why do I live?”, “What is the point of living?”, or “Why do I fear the empty void of death when I don’t even have an immortal spiritual manifestation to even experience that void?”. The answer to those questions cannot be answered with Atheist belief.
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Yes, it’s my choice and I don’t want to be gay therefore I’m not going to choose to be gay. Makes sense?
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"Well, yes it does"

No it doesn't. Atheism is a position on whether or not a god exists, nothing else.

"If you believe there’s no strategist behind every life, logically speaking you shouldn’t find any value in life"

So it's impossible for someone to give their own life value?

"if I believed the universe just spontaneously generated out of a bunch of gas and there was no higher meaning to the universe and therefore no higher meaning to existence then I would most likely believe that infertile heterosexual people are in fact inferior to fertile heterosexual people"

Then that would be an illogical conclusion to reach.

"if a public grade school teacher started talking about how they married the same sex and that it’s so great, their students may start thinking they in fact should also marry their same sex because their teacher who they see as a role model did"

So what?
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“So it's impossible for someone to give their own life value?”

Yes it is in fact impossible. Because in a world where everything was created without purpose the universe itself would hold no purpose. So no matter how much a meaningless life searches for meaning in meaningless things in the end the meaningless life can gain no meaning as long is there is no meaning to gain.

“So what?”

That would inevitably decrease the chance of the parents having grandchildren.
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So you agree that homosexual couples should not have the right to artificial insemenation? Further idiocy in your argument is that just because someone is born attracted to the same sex doesn’t have anything to do with their right to matrimony with the same sex. For an example I have a disdain for the color hot pink I’ve hated it for as long as I can remember. Does that give me the right to randomly punch every hot pink thing I see? No, because that’s irrational.
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“LOL, dude!!! how on this earth do u read that meme and then ask me the stupid question u asked?! no, i dont agree that homosexual couples should not have the right to artificial insemination....THATS irrational. also has nothing to do with what we are talking about.”

‘Cause clearly you didn’t read your own meme. The meme stated that straight people gave birth to gay babies, therefore saying that gay people should not in fact reproduce. Other wise it would just be that some gay people happen to be born from straight parents and others from gay parents. Once again, what does straight people giving birth have to do with gay marriage? The same could be said about murder, drugs, sex trafficking and any other wrong doing. “Well, don’t blame Ted Bundy he was actually a good guy, it was his parents fault for giving birth to a serial killer.”
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Because generally they are hate mongers.
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