I would be PI$$ED, if I had believed Them, and fallen into Their Trap. Aren’t YOU PI$$ED?!

Um. You might want to check with whomever you've been sleeping with.

Because they gave you aids and herpes. You probably had that heart problem before that.

I'm sorry to hear you're sick. Seconding Antithesis' advice.

I've had the vaccines and have had NONE of those things. I suggest you talk to your doctor for how that might ACTUALLY have happened.

https://www.wnd.com/2022/04/long-term-lancet-study-shows-vaccines-dont-prevent-death/

Ok..

"Among 74,000 trial participants (mainly healthy adults), there were 31 all-cause deaths among [MRNA] vaccinated and 30 among the placebo groups as of January."

1. All-cause? It seems unclear if anyone in that study died from or even had Covid..(?)

2. Looks like that is a pre-print.. ( not a peer reviewed study)

It is an analysis of Pfizer and Moderna’s clinical trial data.

"What is clear, however, is that the mRNA vaccine makers understood that there was no mortality benefit for healthy people and pushed the shots on them anyway, even though they came with substantial non-COVID risk of adverse events.”

-Daniel Horowitz, op-ed writer for Blaze....

(Apparently the source your article is based on)

When I had Covid (pre-vaccine era) I took HCQ and ivermectin, etc. I was over the virus in three days and I did not turn into a horse!

I used vapo-rub to get past the cough, and after about a week I was fine.

I had extreme fatigue, body ache and fever, slept a lot, no cough, started to lose sense of smell on weak odors. Woke up three days into treatment feeling 100% better.

It's a joke, buddy. No need to get too serious.

We both know what it was.

You will soon.

So to be clear... You are claiming vaccinated people will "soon" have heart problems, AIDS, and/or herpes...? Is that correct?

Have you noticed the rise in heart issues, cancer, Alzheimers, etc? It is no coincidence.

Ohhhhhh, that's right, I forgot, I'm forever going to be living within two weeks of you finally being proven right. And when it doesn't happen, we just go to the next two weeks.

Instead of just saying you were wrong in the first place.

No, it depends on the person. Whether you do or do not get immediate issues, you will get cancer, or some brain dysfunction within 5 years (again, it may be longer or shorter according to your genetics).

Graphene oxide should not be inside you, nor nanobots.

And then 5 years from now, it'll be "yeah, just wait another 5 years"?

Vaccine side effects almost always present in the first two months. What you are describing is just not rooted in actual medical evidence. It is nonsense. You're wrong, and you're wrong NOW - not in 5 years or 10 years while we wait and see.

What medical evidence, when the vaccine was released in 2020?

Each vaccine brand has its clinical documentation from the 2020 trials on the public domain. Knock yourself out reading them.

Gotcha

Did you, though?

Yes. Fully.

"clinical trials." Yeah sure. They were illegally rushed and released. And even if they were legal, it was only a few month's trial.

Well, no, because they're very much squared up with the law, and the vaccines that DID rush the safety protocols failed and got nothing. The ones you've heard of are exactly the ones that DIDN'T rush it.

The FDA "legally" rushed it, but not fully by law, only partially. Even so, as I said, there was only a few months' trial, and that is no trial at all. So, no we don't have "medical evidence" that these are safe. In fact, we have the opposite.

There definitely was a clinical trial. I read them. You can too. Public domain.

Oopsy

gahahaha the vaccines that were rushed through weren't the vaccines that were rushed through. Hilarious

"There definitely was a clinical trial. I read them. You can too. Public domain." Again, as I said, IT WAS NOT LONG, AND THEREFORE NOT TRUSTWORTHY FOR LONGTERM RESULTS, ACCORDING TO THE AMOUNT OF TIME THEY WERE ABLE TO TEST PEOPLE. Especially compared to tests for polio vaccines, which lasted 5-10 years.

The polio vaccines were invented in the 1930's. Stochastic analysis was developed considerably more recent than that. We've been able to conclude safety from a clinical trial a lot shorter than 10 years for about three decades now.

he gotcha

Yep, but not down to two months. Especially not with some sort of "unknown" virus.

As well, Skeezy makes a good point, in many ways, "science" has been degraded since. The practice is far more political. What do you make of the redacted FDA info? How can you ignore it?

It hasn't been degraded, you just stopped studying it.

"It hasn't been degraded, you just stopped studying it."

So, when certain doctors patently deny biology, which is a study of science if you didn't know, I AM THE ONE WHO STOPPED STUDYING IT?

Your understanding of biology has been horrible. Your knowledge of clinical methodology is from the 1930's at best. Your knowledge of the ingredients of the vaccine is largely influenced by Reddit rather than any medical documentation. Your understanding of how the vaccine even works demonstrates a lack of even high school level knowledge of biochemistry.

So start LISTENING to "certain doctors" instead of assuming you already know the answer. You absolutely don't. You're a person who needs to learn, not lecture.

"Your understanding of biology has been horrible. Your knowledge of clinical methodology is from the 1930's at best. Your knowledge of the ingredients of the vaccine is largely influenced by Reddit rather than any medical documentation. Your understanding of how the vaccine even works demonstrates a lack of even high school level knowledge of biochemistry.

So start LISTENING to "certain doctors" instead of assuming you already know the answer. You absolutely don't. You're a person who needs to learn, not lecture."

>>No, it has not. I don't use Reddit, and yes, the vaccine has been confirmed to have toxic chemicals in it.

Did I ever mention how the vaccine works?

Prove it. I noticed you never actually address my points with counterarguments. I am pushing back, prove what I am saying is wrong, with your own words.

There is a reason standard FDA trials last a decade...

Yeah. Because that's how clinical trials were run back in the 70's before stochastic analysis was developed and a clinical trial could be shortened if the evidence was clear enough right out of the gate.

70's, 80's, 90's, 2000's, 2010's

To determine long term side effects, which cannot be determined by short term limited trials. You're a Guinea pig, and I'm not.

Yes it can. Stochastic analysis. In layman's terms, if the data you get really early on is strong enough, you can act on it while you're still collecting the rest of the data.

I should unblock you more often. I mean, I can only take so much of the nonsense you spew - but it is fun to make you contradict yourself. Somehow I made you do it twice in this thread (a personal best).

See you in a month or so when I get bored and need a good laugh!

I absolutely have not contradicted myself and I'm happy to let the comment thread stand so that people can read it for themselves. I'm ready to be judged.

You cannot study long term side effects in short term studies. It is impossible to know those side effects without the passage of time. It takes years for the shingles side effect to appear after receiving the chicken pox vaccine. YEARS.

You cannot be this dumb.

Yes you can. The long term side effects of a vaccine almost always present within the first two months. We've known that for about a hundred years now.

Are you out of your mind? You don't seem to comprehend the words I'm putting into this conversation. It's like you don't understand the language, or you're ignoring the parts that don't agree with your narrow perception of reality. They didn't learn that shingles was a side effect of the chicken pox vaccine until years later when it STARTED showing up in vaccinated individuals. There was no data on the shingles side effect until later in the lives of vaccinated individuals.

Models do not predict ALL long term side effects. Regardless of what CNN tells you.

https://www.livescience.com/45804-chickenpox-vaccine-cause-shingles.html

Almost all side effects present within two months. Vaccines are something that we have researched for over 150 years. These are safe.

The scandal isn't in how quickly these vaccines came out - the scandal is in how slowly we've come to expect vaccines to develop because we just haven't put as much interest in developing them for other diseases. THAT'S the real lesson here.

YEP