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If people don't want to get vaccinated, that is their choice. Quitting a job that requires a vaccine is also a choice. Given that most states have at-will employment, if workers refuse to vaccinate it would be the employers choice to fire them, or not.

I imagine we will see more law suits once the OSHA guidance is released requiring employers with over 100 employees to ensure their employees are vaccinated. I'll be curious to see how SCOTUS rules.

Got more coming tomorrow :-)

LoL! Keep these going!

Thanks! I will. Sometimes they are in fun when not political, sometimes in politics and others land in Real Politics

If the vax works why are the vaxxed so worried?

There is no IF.
It works and has been proven to work.

It's just not 100% effective. That's the problem. 10 months later and I'm still explaining the same concept.
Lol

Tell that too the ones that got the vaccine and s died of covid. As well as the ones that died from the vaccine. Or were put in hospitals due to the vaccine.

Tell people who died that vaccines are less than 100% effective..? Why would I need to. That's been known since the beginning.

Pfizer does have a warning label regarding likely association with reported cases of heart inflammation in young adults. Yale medicine claims it's like 13 per million of the the second dose particularly among yound adults.. and typically gets better without medication.

only 5% died of covid with the vax. The other 95%....well.... they made it to internet fame :)

Right, because you believe that a cold virus that is survivable by 99.97% of the population needs an experimental mRNA stab.
Clearly viruses mutate faster than they can make experimental mRNA jabs. Makes sense that there has never been a vaccine for the common cold.

Correct. Members of my direct family and friends of family have been hospitalized and died from covid... Others with more or less mild symptoms ended up having longer term effects from covid even after they no longer tested positive. So ya it's kind of hard to ignore when you see this stuff with your own eyes. Being healthy and having a strong immune system and vitamins are generally good.. the vaccines are even better.

Vaccines aren't better than natural health.
None of my friends or family have gotten ill and we are in the non vaxxed majority.
If it wasn't for nature immunity, mankind would have died off long ago

[ source ? ]

Uh, I talk with my friends and family regularly.
Sad so many of your friends and family are plagued with poor health.

So it sounds like the source backing up you claim that "vaccines are not better than natural health " is anecdotal.

Anecdotal evidence is like good health and scientific studies are like the vaccine. You don't necessarily need good health to keep you from getting or dying from covid if you are vaccinated. But it can only ADD to the level of protection.

"Good health" (a pretty subjective term) might make you not die from covid, but as far as I know it is 0% effective at preventing someone from getting/spreading covid..

Lastly idk what you meant about being in the unvaxxed majority..(?) I'm pretty sure they're now the minority of America @ ~ 44%...

You are my source.
All your associates are ill and all my associates are not.
Debate it all you want

Oh? I am your source? Interesting.

The people I know who were hospitalized and the one who died were unvaccinated otherwise healthy individuals. (This was during the dumpster fire that was 2020....before the vaccines)

Sorry, that they were vaxxed.
My apologies.

Yes, technically, you are correct.
but (I know, I know, but there is a but)
It is proven to only work for a certain amount of time (depending on which vaccine, body type, blood type, etc..). The average amount of time is 4-5 months.
What most are worried about are the after effects because though it is a medical breakthrough, it has not been around long enough for for us to know how it affects us after a given time period and to specific ages. For example, there are quite a few studies that are worried it might cause sterility.
No hate, just a friendly debate :)

What studies or what is your source on that....?

Everything I've read so far says literally zero evidence of any link regarding infertility in men or women.

I've heard of the information regarding fertility, there are doctors around the world who speak up and then big tech silences their information... So the various outlets that produce the information aren't findable on Google, Bing, Twitter Accounts get suspended, Facebook pages get deactivated...

When censorship from Big Tech is in the mix - it's understandable you can't find information that contradicts their Financial Contributors demands.

I've come to the conclusion that they *like* being afraid.

Yep
The plandemic is the ultimate wimp play-along game. So happy that winter is coming so I can go outside without all the karens and finger waggling dirty hippie soy boys around.

is abortion contagious?

VAERS says that you may well have that backwards.

Tell me, when's the last time *you* got strenuous aerobic exercise?

How I approached the whole thing-
First month - Ok, I get it. Can't go to church and Jesus did say when two or three gather in His Name, He will be there meaning that's really all that's needed for going to church and there's also video chat and drive-in sermons.

Second month - This just turned into Daniel being given the ultimatum - Choose Government and live. Choose God and be tossed into the Lion Pit. . .too many pastors chose unwisely. . .

If every single VAERS is proven to be causal, that still wouldn't even close to the number of covid deaths.

Oh I don't do strenuous aerobic exercise. Deaths have been reported which were associated with doing that.
Lol

That's supposed to say "my body my choice" in the first girls panel - hooray for auto correct

Typo in a meme? 0/5 Stars

Yep lol

abortion isn't contagious.

In Jacobson v. Masschusetts, SCOTUS upheld compulsory vaccinations.

https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1824/jacobson-v-massachusetts

Yes yes, we have seen this a lot recently. It is legal force. Many things have been legal that have been wrong.

But...this is a state mandate...not a Federal. It should be challenged.

Well, the point I'm trying to make is that this pandemic, and the many responses to it, are not unique. There is precedent for these measures.

Yes, it is legal force. I am okay with that. The question is, is it justified?

When does a person's responsibility to others outweigh their responsibility to tthemselves? At what point is it appropriate for a group or society to limit the liberty of an individual? Where is that line?

Is it wrong to expose others to a potentially lethal virus? Is this were polio, small pox, TB or bubonic plague, would it make a difference?

It seems like first people were bitching about the unending shutdown being unsustainable (I agree) and wanting a vaccine. Then they complained about masks. Now, they have problems with the vaccines. Are we supposed to stand by and watch people die from something preventable? That's not going to happen. I'm not saying that I 100% agree with the way things have been handled, but the resistance to COVID mitigation measures has started to take on the character and appearance of a "teen age attorney."

Very tough questions. I think two things do not justify legal force..

1.We are in a pandemic that has an average 97% to 98% survival rate(whatever they say it is now)
Flip Settings

2. Both vaccinated and unvaccinated can spread the virus

Those two I don't think justify forcing someone to get the vaccine.

It's easy to lose perspective when we speak of percent. 97 to 98% survival means two to three percent do not survive. Let's use 2%. With the US population being currently 333,000,000 (roughly), that two percent translates to 6.6 million people - about the same amount as the Jews killed in the Holocaust. That's in the US alone. That's a lot of people to turn your back on. While both vaxxed and unvaxxed can both spread, the majority of those dying from it now are unvaxxed.

I'm not trying to convince anyone. Those other viruses were more deadly than COVID has been - so far.

It just seems to me that a lot of the pushback is either politically based, or millenial-minded snowflakes crying about their rights.

That's where it get sticky and messy. There are people who don't go to church, don't go to social events, don't have visitors, live plenty of distance from other people, don't go to the Grocery store because they hunt or farm or get groceries delivered, people basically - that pay their taxes and want to be left alone.

TONS of them. Why do those people need a vaccine?

There are also people who naturalists by a personal conviction that takes nothing artificial. They grow their own organic foods, raise their own animals and want to live a "chemical-free" life. They aren't around others much. TONS of them. Why do those people need a vaccine?

Then there are those who weren't vaccinated - got COVID, survived it, and no longer are worrying about getting COVID again. TONS of them - like 9 months of COVID with no vaccines - survived it.
Why do those people need a vaccine?

Then we have other countries using hydro-whatever it is and Ivermectin, that have some of the lowest new COVID cases in the world... Why are they ok without a vaccine, but we need to mandate it?