Tolerance, liberal style

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It's cool that Antifa wants to kill Andy Ngo. It's cool that they publicly communicated his whereabouts on Twitter in order to try and kill him. Sleeping_Dragon has no problem with that.

BUT, if you go into the Capitol, UNARMED and UNPREPARED to do ANYTHING meaningfully violent, he'll call you a white supremacist insurrectionist and demand justice be served.

Makes TOTAL sense.

Crime is crime. But you are implying that a few people represent the entire tolerant left.

Well, then those peeps chanting 'hang mike pence' represent the patriotic right.

"crime is crime"
So you consider rape and murder to be on par with speeding?
Interesting worldview you have there...

I suppose that made more sense in my head.

What I meant was there are criminals in every group, and crime should be punished, but implying the criminality of some members of a group is representative of the group is wrong (not must morally, but logically).

Especially when you get to something that is in fact artificial lines like 'left' and 'right'.

Here's the problem with that.
Those on the Left are only to happy to condemn ALL white people, men, Christians, Trump supporters, and police based on the actions of a few or even one.
Yet no matter how bad black crime statistics become or how many muslims slaughter innocent people or how many gay/trans people molest children you demand people pretend it is all random and that no patterns exist.
That is not merely stupid; it's not merely hypocritical; it's dangerous.
When ~7% of you population is responsible for >50% of your murders; that is a problem that should be acknowledged and addressed, not suppressed with screeches of "racism".
Your problem is not with "artificial lines" between right and left; your problem is with the very real differences between groups that do not fit your narrative.
You problem is with reality.

I usually try to ease into this...but I'm short on time - that's propaganda. The left is mostly white people and Christians too. The right seems to circle the wagons and assume that accusations against one are accusations against all instead of taking us at our word. That cop is dirty isn't an attack on all cops. The conservative media and a large number of conservatives seem to default to group based judgements. They also seem to assume that the same is happening in reverse. When I realized this, it was jarring, but it makes sense. And I know that saying it that way is a group based, but I think maybe that mentality is one of the core things that leads people to be liberals or conservatives.

Gay and transgender people are actually assaulted at a much higher rate than other groups, but there is no evidence that they themselves assault at a rate higher than average. The quote below is specific to gay/bisexual men, not trans, but I can't find anything credible that has statistics saying it is worse for transgender people.

"The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children."

Most stereotypes are based on statistics. Discriminating based on things that actually can be backed by statistics is still discrimination. Because here's the thing: the majority of terrorists in the world are Muslim extremists; Black crime statistics are bad. So while most terrorists are Muslim, most Muslims aren't terrorists. Most black people aren't criminals. So when you point to statistics as justification for how an individual is treated, that isn't right. Equal protection under the law means equal treatment.

I definitely don't want to live in the majority of Muslim countries. I have been to Qatar and Kuwait for work, and they weren't horrible, but I still don't want to live there. That said I wouldn't want to live in a bunch of south American, Asian, or African countries either.

Blaming Islam for things that the Quran says not to do, or for beliefs that exist in the Old Testament as well doesn't make sense. I'm glad I don't live in a theocracy. 1st amendment for the win.

I love how you expose yourself.
You write an essay in which you reduce everyone to skin color, sexuality, and religion because that is all you see.

I also find it particularly telling how someone who is "short on time" went on for six paragraphs without presenting one meaningful or original thought.

Like a mentally defective parrot, you repeat the nonsensical ramblings of others, never understanding a word, nor grasping that you are nothing more than your master's mouthpiece.

I can’t seem to help being verbose. I actually wrote that I was short on time, and then ran out of time. I came back from a meeting and finished without removing that line.

Reduce everyone? How?

Original thought? Originality isn’t really what I was going for just facts.

A mentally defective parrot? 😆 That's creative. Master's mouthpiece. That one is less creative.

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Projection much?

Being tolerant of people does not mean tolerating fascism or oppression.

It means, unlike the majority of conservatives, not abusing people based on their race, gender, sexuality etc.

Clear now?

If this was 1930s Germany, you would be wearing a brown shirt, heiling Hitler, calling for the elimination of Jews, and feeling super self-righteous about it the whole time.
You are the thing you claim to hate, but are too arrogant to recognize it.
Fix yourself.

I'm having the hugest epiphany right now... We (Trump supporters) ARE all RACIST, we just don't KNOW that we are. I wouldn't have ever known that without your amazingly well thought out post. "America First" was once used by white supremacists, so when anyone, of any race, bring the words "America" and "First" together, it makes it automatically racist regardless of how common the words are, or what the context and intent in which they are being used. It's also become clear to me, and I'm sure everyone else reading your post, that a small group of radicals logically represents the the entire race and culture of people who share their skin color, and that's not racist because CRT. Makes TOTAL sense. Good job.

Like the original meme that I was replying to, right?

The meme that highlights one sidewalk which could have been graffiti done by the right-wing to sabotage the message of BLM? Funny that you're not applying the same lens of critique. Quite telling :)

You just owned your own argument

The Proud Boys are a small insignificant group. They are not indicative of the conservative movement in America.

Months ago I went to the Proud Boys website because all I ever heard about them came from the left. prior to that I never heard of them. I read what they said they were rather than listening the constant barrage of leftist droning on about everyone who is not a leftist is a racist.

Aside from some bizarre concept about women they appeared to be a multi-racial (including blacks) conservative group. However, I just looked again and I see articles about how their website was pulled by their ISP. Then there are a ton of articles accusing them of being Neo-fascists and white supremacists.

All I can tell you is their website said one thing and the left is saying something completely different. I don't know anyone who is a Proud Boy to ask and I don't know where else to go to find unbiased reporting.

I just know that when the left starts obsessing over someone or something on the right that the more the talk the more they fabricate and make stuff up.

I don't know who that Kyle Chapman is. I never heard of him before. What I found interesting is you posted a picture of the KKK from back when they were exclusively Democrat. Plus the headline to that article said something completely different than the text under the headline. The text said that Chapman took over some group and wants to call them "Proud Boys" but the headline calls Chapman a Proud Boys leader. So which is it? Is he the leader of a group that wants to be called the Proud Boys or is a leader of the existing Proud Boys.

Also how does "confronting Zionists" have anything to do with white supremacy. What "white genocide" are they talking about. There is a mostly white but not completely white attack in South Africa and sever farmers (both black and white) have been brutally and savagely been beaten and killed. That is the only thing close to a "white genocide" that I know about.

Why did you take on random pictures of the KKK at the end. Was that your way of trying to continue your accusation that the KKK are what conservatives are all about. The KKK is a dying organization. In another 10 to 20 years there most likely won't be any more KKK. They are obsolete and no one likes them.

Before you post some crazy meme trying to link the KKK to conservatives perhaps you should talk to conservatives and listen to them without having your mind already made up.

Oh and by the way there are three completely separate groups who display the Confederate Battle Flag. There are people, both black and white, who are proud of their Southern heritage. They are not racists they are just proud Southerners.

Then there are people who picked up on the term "rebel" from the South being called rebels and they adopted the "Rebel flag" to show they they are rebellious to societal norms. Many of them are bikers.

Then there is the KKK. A group founded in the South by Democrats but at one time spread all over the nation with the biggest group in Boston. For some reason they jumped from the Democrat to the Republican party. Probably because of the cold war and they saw the Democrats for the socialists that they are. But since coming to the Republican party the group just began to fizzle out. They don't have any racist kinship with conservatives because conservatives are not racists.

But the left is extremely myopic and can only see the Confederate Battle flag as a symbol of racism just because some former Democrat idiots in bed sheets started marching around with them.

BTW How are you enjoying your racist president? You know the guy who said "Barack is a clean, well spoken and articulate man". The one who said that "poor kids are just a brilliant as white kids". The one who said "If you don't vote for me, you ain't black".

Also I just thought I would let you know that "black and brown people" (as your fake president calls them) are actually smart enough to get a voter ID. If you talk to them you will find that out. They are not idiots like you guys think they are. It is just that ever since you president Lyndon Johnson said "We'll have these n*****rs voting for us for a 100 years" you guys have been doing everything to make poor blacks dependent on you. You took them off of one plantation and put them on another and you keep them down by telling them that they cannot make it without you guys so that you guys can use them for votes. Fortunately many blacks have figured out your nightmarish racism and are leaving that 2nd plantation.

The KKK was not founded by the Democrats, they were founded by former Confederate male WASPs.
You've been informed of this many times.
A group owned by a party does not jump to another. The KKK does not belong to Republicans either.

If you're gonna lie, at least have the decency and self respect to keep your lies straight.

The Democrats created the KKK.
That is fact.
Your inability to accept history as it truly was changes nothing.

No, they did not.

That is a silly lie of the most deliberately obtuse sort designed for obtuse children who like their fairytales steeped in denial of most obtuse renderings.

If they had been created and/or were linked to the party as some sort of military wing as the revisionist fanfickers pretend to purport, the Democrat Party would have been sued out of existence ages ago, much as the KKK has been sued into a small club of aging spittle sipping geezers who occasionally sponsor parades in obscure one street towns down South for nostalgia's sake.

Ignorance may have its allure, but do look things up.

You call me ignorant, yet offer no facts to refute the truth.
Democrats have been the party of the KKK up into the 1990s.
They were the ones who fought to maintain slavery, then to maintain Jim Crow laws and segregation.
They were the last ones to elect black leaders to Congress and the Senate and were the last to allow black Americans into their party.
Democrats use black people the way they use gays, Hispanics, women, muslims, and any other group they believe they can manipulate.
The mission of the DNC is what it has always been: Divide and Exploit.

That is why every city that has been under Democrat control for an extended period of time is poorer, more crime ridden, has failing schools, a higher cost of living, and crumbling infrastructure.
For examples of this see: Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans, Baltimore, Metro Atlanta, Buffalo, Los Angeles, Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, NYC, and many more.

What you believe the Democrat party to be is merely the fairytale they sell sheeple in order to obtain power.
The reality they deliver is a shit and used needle covered nightmare of crime, illiteracy, high taxes, and transgenerational poverty.

No, you're lying, child, and quite ineptly.

I would advise you try reading something other than a script, but we both know deviation from the revionist silliness you've been provided won't suit your assigned narrative.

The 1990s? What are you, 12?

The South sought to maintain slavery - a practice it maintained (see how easy that bit of logic was?), and to maintain that broke away into something called the Confederacy which you evidently haven't heard of.
Lincoln also wanted to preserve it as well, his later moves to end it were to screw the South and cripple it economically.

Funny how many 'Black' Senators were APPOINTED 150 years ago and how many represent the Republican Party today.

Cities are cities because of productivity, engines that drive economies not just locally, but far and wide. That's why more people live in them than in trailer parks, why states that have big ones are far richer than the tumbleweed dustbin flyover ones that depend on them for their insignificant existence.

When you have higher numbers of anything, you have higher numbers of everything that goes with it, from economic viability to riches, poverty, elevation of living standards, crime, etc, because math is a thing.

Per capita, however, is a whole other beastie. Compare murder and other violent crime rates proportionate to population between your big bad spooky cities and the stretches of rust in the Southwest, and the numbers speak of a different reality.
Go north to Alaska, and you find the State with the highest violent crime rate in relation to population in the USA. This is a state whose citizens spend most of the year locked in under snow, mind you, and whose 'cities' are what we call "neighborhoods" in this neck of the woods.

I skimmed through your wall of drivel, but something just caught my eye when I was looking over what I posted: "transgenerational poverty"
There's a certain demographic that has exhibited transgenerational poverty at a higher and more sustained frequency for far longer than with other groups and not because of racist policies or other factors that have spawned others, and that is what is derisively referred to as "W**** Trash," who have remained impoverished since they were dumped here as penal colonists by Britain. Whether this is merely a cultural aspect or a genetic one is not known, but centuries later they're still stuck in a rut-ness can still be observed. At a trailer park near you.

Enjoy your evening!

I don't do clickbait either.

It wasn't the Democrat Party that created the KKK but every person that founded it and was a member of it were Democrats until sometime around the 60's or 70's.

I have no clue why they switched party other than they were probably also anti-communist. That is why a lot of people left the Democrat party around that time. Democrats blame it on racism but Democrats blame EVERYTHING on racism. They are literally accusing climate change of racism. They are obsessed with race just like they always have been back when the fill the ranks of the KKK. The only difference between now and then is back then they didn't blame others for their obsession. Now they do. If a conservative farts it is because of racism.

You FINALLY looked something but couldn't help layer in more of your befuddled lies.

Golly, are you gonna be tickled pink when you finally look up the Lily-White Movement that began in the 1880s.

The parties did not switch.
Democrats are still the same old intolerant, manipulative bigots they always were.
Their soft headed acolytes have simply become more oblivious and easier to use.

There were a lot of people who left the Democrat party during the Cold War when the realized the Democrat Party espoused the same things the Soviet Union believed. I know this first hand because my dad was a Democrat and just before I was born (in the late 50's) he changed to Republican and it was specifically because of Communism.

However, many of the die hard racists stayed in the Democrat party and just changed their tactics from mistreating blacks to manipulating blacks.

What the left tries to get people to ignore is that no white person ever built a fall out shelter to keep blacks away from them but they did build fall out shelters to protect themselves. Schools didn't have white children do bomb drills to hide themselves from blacks but they did in a vain effort to keep them safe from a nuke.

When people who escaped Castro's Cuba came here and recognized that the Democrat party is Fidel Castro's party, after they became US citizens they all voted Republican.