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But if you disagree with Al Gore, you're a crazy science-denier!

I think that the climate lunatics are in the process of changing that to "climate or global disruption" now! China is laughing its ass off as the West ruins itself and it gets (China) wealthier and more dominant! China just called Greta a stooge of the West a day ago!

Enjoy my meme for today!
Al Gore did well for himself being a conman.....This conman is worth over $300 MILLION DOLLARS today....all of it made off of running this scam. No wonder so many people are into this scam today.....it is a money mint....a multi-BILLION US DOLLARS scam....the liberals' most orgasmic wet dream of that proverbial money growing tree for which they have to do ZERO work to benefit....come to life! And yes this genius Gore, who knows everything about the climate, did say "polarized" cap!

You've got to love that 8+ million dollar mansion he bought himself with all that climate hussle money- the one that has the "carbon footprint" of a small town, and is located on beachfront property (next to one of those oceans that he told us are rapidly rising and are going to flood the whole coastline).

Man, i wish i would of thought of the whole carbon credits ponzi scheme.

Maybe he meant Polaroid cap- lol

Yea! He has been taking quite of those with his ill-gotten gains!

Yes! That is the logic of the liberals (who are also calling themselves climate scientists).

Upvote.

Basically it is best to not save the planet, as it would make things worse.

Oh the planet will survive....as it has dozens of times in the past after the ice age and being hit by giant asteroids multiple times that had wiped out all living creatures.....and then new life had reemerged! But who said that the planet needed saving now? Is there a giant aseriod on the way? A new Ice Age? multiple Super Volcano events occuring simultaneously. I am soory if it is humanity you are seeing as a poblem....life must have been very hard for, and on you!

Bro, I appreciate it, but what he is saying, is that we should save the planet

Maybe some can get that as an underlying message if they dig deep enough and have exhausted all other relevent messages! But the message above is just pure mockery of the climate change lunatics....who claim that the planet is getting hotter (not true as it has been stable over the last 15-20 years) and that when this is pointed out to the lunatics....some will then claim that even when it is getting hotter.....sometimes it will also get even colder! Others will claim that the climate will swing crazily from hot to cold during the period that it is getting hotter! They always have a bandaid made in China (aka nonsensical excuse) for every nonsense they make-up and sprout! That is the problem with lies....you continually have to create new lies to cover the first initial lie....to infinity!

The sun will start it's death in 1 billion years, and soon all life will die then, THERE IS NO WAY TO PREVENT THAT, THEY ARE SO STUPID

In more than 1 billion years....but even one billion years is a very very long time and mankind hopefully would have spread throughout the universe long long before then....PEACEFULLY!

But in simulations where the earth ends, no signs of technology appear in the solar system, and besides, the universe is expanding rapidly

And with computer simulations....we just do not know what the future will look like....we do not know the changes that will occur....discoveries that will be made....we are just limited by what we know now.....as I had said before...Shit in and shit out! Computers (and their programs) are only as smart as their creators. As humans are only as smart as compared to what? A chimpanzee?

Those environmentalists are

at best: dreamers....at medium: assholes....at worse: evil and malevolent bastards!

RIP Reindeer.

not political

Sure it is.....this is one of the main mandates of the liberals around the world!

They starved because they couldn't dig through the thick ice to get to the grass underneath. If the temperature stays cold, snow stays powder. Its the fact that temperatures have risen that led to snow
melting and then refreezing. Or you could go with the herders own theory that its the ice breakers that have been working in the region.

https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/climate-crisis/2021/03/russian-tundra-tragedy-80000-reindeer-might-have-starved-death

Hahahah...What freezing and thawing.....Have you had one SINGLE WARM DAY this year?....and half of spring is over already! I do not know where you live but I live in Canada.....Not as far North as Russia and it has been frigging cold all Spring....Which is very abnormal because I have lived in my area for over 30 years! NOT ONE SINGLE FRIGGING WARM DAY! I still have my heat on! The flowers just came up in my garden....They should have been up 2 months ago! Now as for Russia....I cannot find the average temp for Feb-April but "January was one of the 15 coldest months over the entire history of weather monitoring, since 1891." I believe that you are mixing up WINTER RAIN with WARM RAIN.....NO! Winter rain is ICE RAIN! We have those in Canada, they are horrible, and has nothing to do with global warming but are just the nastiest of bitterly cold winter weather! And the only way that that ice rain freezing would remain on the ground as ice for an extended period is if it was bitterly cold....AND REMAINS BITTERLY COLD! This was no refreezing because it NEVER thawed in the very first place! The animals died as they could not forage because of the unusually thick ice this year....periodic glaciation as it is. But let us hear it from the herders themselves in the SIBERIAN TIMES (rather than some climate alarmist living in his warm home in the West) "Alarmed Yamal herders said the extreme weather caused the formation of thick layer of ice over lichen (a small fungus, similar to moss, which the animals feed on), reports the siberiantimes.com. The ice averaged a thickness of 3cm, which was enough to lock the feed from the reindeer as they tried to graze.... “Herders showed us that their hooves were worn out because they had to dig through ice so much,” said the researches.
Portugal just got hit by a massive snowfall...PORTUGAL! Hungary registered its coldest April for the last century...almost 3 Degrees below normal! Most of Europe is in an extreme Freeze that will continue throughout May. Following its coldest APRIL since 1922, England is now on for its coldest MAY, since record-keeping began some 362 years ago. THE DUTCH JUST REPORTED A THUNDERSNOW....A THUNDERSNOW! AND GERMAN CITIES RECORD THEIR FIRST MAY SNOWFALL SINCE THE 1960s. I could go on but......

Ice rain is caused by falling snow passing through a warm air layer that melts it. It then grows cold as it passes through other layers but doesn't have time to freeze and ends up freezing on contact with the ground, powerlines, etc.

For completeness, Sleet is partially thawed snow. Hail forms in thunderstorms when rain freezes and continues to collide with liquid rain that freezes around it.

If it is consistently cold, you get snow.

You mean this article? http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/mass-deaths-of-reindeer-on-yamal-peninsula-might-be-linked-to-climate-change-scientists-believe/?curCity=

"First reports about winter rains followed by lengthy spells of extremely cold weather on Yamal appeared in December 2020.

Alarmed herders said the unusual weather caused formation of thick - up to three centimetres - ice cover over lichen."

Wind patterns and ocean currents are caused by water rising and falling in the ocean and air rising and falling for similar reasons. As global temperatures rise on average, some locations are going to get colder as the currents change. This is basic stuff.

I get that from your perspective it seems like a con that no matter what evidence you present, it is taken as a sign of climate change. I get that...but that doesn't matter. This isn't a game. You are trying to prove something isn't happening that is happening. You are being lied to, but it isn't by scientists.

But ice rain only stays as ice on the ground if it is below freezing......and it has been months now!

And also you have missed the entire point....or futilely misdirecting....from something that cannot be defended! That climate change lunatics PROPHET (gore) clearly claimed said that by 2014....the ARCTIC will be ice free....That is the point of the meme....It portrays....or betrays, his big fat hoax!

Gore isn't a climate scientist. There have been many models and predictions, and he likely chose a more dramatic one for effect. I could go look to see that he actually said it, but it doesn't make a difference.

That climate model was likely a worst case scenario and assumed that we continued as we were. "the arctic will melt" wasn't a prediction with a full stop at the end - it was assuming things didn't change. We have made progress when it comes to the climate, it just isn't enough.

And Trump said COVID would just go away after election day. Republicans made some pretty dire predictions about what would happen if Obama was reelected for his second term. Gore isn't a profit, he's a politician.

I doubt that he used any climate change model. But anyways with climate change models.....just inaccurate computer models! This is what I say about them.....SHIT IN AND SHIT OUT! There is no FUC@ING way that you can predict what will happen in 80 years using a "man-made" computer....We just do not have that knowledge. It is just plain fantasy!

The early climate models have actually proven very accurate. They have been improved upon, but the initial brief to Congress gave three scenarios supported by a model and 3 cases. The cases were pretty much: no change, do something, stop polluting. People like to point out that the no change predictions didn’t happen, but our emissions were closer to do something, and it was fairly accurate.

Nonsense....what else could they have predicted

Nope "Gore isn't a profit" as you so amply typed....congratulations! But he most certainly is a profiteer and also the Jesus-like "prophet" who has single-handedly created this climate change lunacy. I also agree that he is not a climate scientist....but then, neither is anyone else who is promoting this absolute hysteria.....mini false prophets and profiteers all....the lowest of humanity! I am not going to argue about Trump except to say that he says a lot of things....most of them to get a hand-jerk out of people who oppose him....and it never fails! Every Trump supporter know that he is just getting the liberals to jerk off....The man is the greatest troll ever!

Find me a scientist not working for an oil company who refutes current climate science.

IT took me less than a second!
Dr. Rex J. Fleming, a former NOAA climate scientist who earned both his Master’s and PhD in meteorology, has published a new paper in the Environmental Earth Sciences journal that details the lack of an identifiable causal relationship between CO2 concentration changes and Earth’s temperature changes. He suggests “there is no propensity for CO2 to store heat in a systematic way over time to produce a climate change effect”.
“Censoring evidence, ‘fiddling’ with data and silencing skeptics were part of life at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration,” WND reported. “Rex Fleming admitted that while he worked for NOAA, he attributed global warming to carbon dioxide despite ‘having doubts.’”

That's my fault. I set the bar too low.

I'm not sure you want to go with him anyway, since he is claiming that the climate is heating up due to solar and cosmic radiation. He just disagrees on the cause. That's one of my issues with the denial people - there is no consistentcy. Is the climate warming, it just isn't man-made? or is the climate not warming at all?

If you want to hide the truth, you put out so many conflicting theories that the truth is obscured. There are so many climate theories out there. Nobody agrees...except 99% agree. Its like calling in fake sightings to cover up a real sighting. Nobody is going to check all the crazy theories so you give them the excuse to throw their hands up and give up.

On Dr. Fleming - He has one book published, "The Rise and Fall of the Carbon Dioxide Theory of Climate Change", only available in hardcover and out of print. It is thus hard to read up on his claims.

I did find this: http://rexfleming.com/wp-content/uploads/Fleming-MS2.pdf

There's a discussion here (https://skepticalscience.com/argument.php?a=8&p=3) about whether what he's claiming makes sense and the consensus is no. He apparently changed some constants without explanation and makes claims about cosmic and solar radiation.

I'm not a climate scientist, but in order for a cover up of this scale to be happening, you need a lot of evil scientists out there willing to lie.

You did....The point is that the man once lied for the climate change lunatics side to be paid a salary until his conscience got the better of him. This is is the same with all of the scientists on the side of this lunacy.....they are basing their asylum "beliefs' on computer models. As I had said before....Shit in and Shit out".

Or, he retired and decided to write a book he thought would get bought up by the underrepresented climate deniers. Maybe he was cashing in on his credentials. I don't like using that as an excuse. Its an ad-hominem attack. If the science didn't make sense, the ones who did make sense would be all over Fox news and OAN and the like. Oil companies would be publicizing the stuffing out of anything that they published. They aren't. I'm afraid the combined force of many factors leads me to conclude that the deniers are wrong.

You said "Conservatives make up how much of the country? There is Fox, OAN, NewsMax, etc. You mean to tell me they wouldn't have an immediate audience for 'the truth'? Science as a general rule honors people who prove something or disprove something. I'm not saying they are immune to outside pressures, but it is a core of science."

Yeap! You have named most of the them.....The liberals have more 90% of the mainstream media, it had 90% of hollywood, it has all of silicon Valley, it has most of Wall street, it has most (if not all) of the liberals arts in America's universities and colleges. You know that socialist mantra....Who controls the media controls the narrative.....and the liberal controls practically all of the media outlets in America....and more! So why are you so surprised that they are controlling the narrative. This is not about science....The people in North Korea believe that their leader is a god....and that is because that is the only thing that they hear everyday on the media. You repeat something incessantly and then that thing becomes the truth! That is why liberal go with consensus rather than with science! Sheep also go with consensus....one go and the others follow blindly!

I cannot respond under many of you messages as it gives me no choice but "flag". This is tedious putting answers under other headings.
Anyways, Oh don't be silly...who is pretending that the Conservatives have no media.....You named most of them and I clearly stated that you have named most of them. And yes! Liberals clearly control over 90% of the American media....I reviewed Canada and it is the same there also. In fact, the CBC over there is rabidly liberal and is funded to the tune of over ONE BILLION DOLLARS year....And liberals use the CBC as their propaganda outlet! People are calling for it to be defunded now! Now you had said some other things that I cannot remember but I cannot be going back and forth!

Nah. Sorry. Proving lies is too easy. Media surely leans left, but they hardly ever lie outright. I think the media is a business and the less reputable tell people what they want to hear. Now some conservatives and some liberal reporters may fall pray to confirmation bias and report incorrectly because they believe something they want to. But the big conspiracy? yawn

Sheep go with the consensus - skepticism is healthy. But if you just disbelieve everything the minute the majority believe it, then you are just as predictable. I'm just waiting for anti-vaxxers to turn into anti-antibiotic groups.

I've never had a teacher push their views on me intentionally. Mostly they could care less. They teach you to think critically, and some classes care that you understand the other side of an argument, but otherwise, they don't care.

Or that the skeptics are being shut up and ignored......so they will never be invited onto cnn and such news rags that are failing. Those that dare speak up are ostracized, not published, threatened, lose the jobs, lose seniority, lose promotions lose their funding! That has been well documented. What weird delusional world are you living anyways?

Proving lies is impossible when one political party controls over 90% of the media....when parties do not look at multiple news sites to compare news, when people believe that what is told to them by their preferred media and reject all other options, when the liberal demonize you and shut you up when your views different from them! When you are told by the liberal leadership that the Republicans are evil and want to lock Black people up in chains (as was done by biden to Romney)....and continued massively against Trump by the liberals leadership and media.

Proving lies is impossible... You pretend you have no voice. That there isn't conservative media. You may not be able to convince all of us, but I for one love to be right far more than I love to think I'm right. I'd rather admit that I've been wrong than stay wrong. Walk through it with me. Why doesn't the oil industry fund a study? Why don't they publish rebuttals? Why is it all just paranoia poorly written BS?

We don't think Republicans are evil (well, some do, the same as Republicans apparently think liberals hate America and are evil). I mostly think conservatives are mentally invested in the idea that liberals are lying and just disbelieve anything.

We should have just started wearing masks and told you guys that there was no reason to wear one and let the paranoia do the rest.

Or maybe....just maybe, the skeptics are being completely being ignored by the mainstream such as that failing cnn rag....and will never be invited on those fake news piles of horseshit! It has been well-documented that skeptics are insulted, demonized, silenced, ignored, threatened, demoted, lose promotions, lose funding, lose their jobs. While lunatics receive the opposite of what the skeptics (the true heroes) receive. Even scientists know where their bread is being buttered and they will almost always choose their jobs over real science....just like how Fleming had done in the first place. And that brings up my first part above....do you see how he is being insulted and demonized now that he has called the climate change lunatics "fake news"? Before this he was a hero!

Conservatives make up how much of the country? There is Fox, OAN, NewsMax, etc. You mean to tell me they wouldn't have an immediate audience for 'the truth'? Science as a general rule honors people who prove something or disprove something. I'm not saying they are immune to outside pressures, but it is a core of science.

When you peer review a paper that you don't believe in, you destroy it and tear it apart. But you do so by disproving it. With facts. I will concede that there are two major scenarios: he's being derided because he isn't taking the party line; or he's being derided because he is trying to pass bad science.

I also find the idea that so many people are without integrity unbelievable. Some, yes. But to this degree? Nah.

On Trumps remarks....I am not American but I do know a lot of Americans....including Trump supporters also. They know that when he says something that it is just to get a jerk-off from his opponents.....and that liberals would then spend days hand-jerking themselves off over his remarks. I have yet to meet one of Trump supporter who takes his trolls seriously....they just think is is great fun to see him rile up the liberals into hysterics....the man is a master troll! Now specifically of his remark that COVID will go away in the spring.....that was actually based on prior data of influenza....Influenza generally goes away (it is much reduced actually.....rather than goes away) in the warm months....and that was a hope (not a prophesy) that he had spoken aloud about covid when he should have kept his flap shut....or he just should have said it as a ray of hope with fingers crossed! ! He was wrong about that.....and so were all of the other scientists who were also hoping and wishing for this to be true! He was not the only person who said this! Now, lets us counteract his remark with the wide open Southern borders with thousands of refugees pouring over them with covid....which is worse....But then, I am sure that you are saying NOTHING about that....you are probably endorsing it because that is the only way that liberals will get new voters because they ain't making any children of their own....or at least not enough to replace themselves....so they have to steal voters from other countries!

You’re not wrong about him being a master troll. He was good at controlling the conversation. If he actually did something that he didn’t want to talk about, he’d say something else. However, in this case, implying that COVID is fake and the restrictions would go away right after the election is lying for votes. It’s something all politicians do to one degree or another.

But yet, I am still to see the biden's liberals do more to rid the USA of covid that did Trump.....Wide open Southern borders anyone!!!!!.....with thousands storming over the border with covid and then also being crammed into jails that are now 700 times more overcrowded than during Trumps presidency! I am sure you were screaming your head off during Trumps presidency over those crowded holding "pens" but the question is....Are you screaming your head off now about those same pens that are 700 times more overcrowded. If you are not then you are a hypocrite!

My main issue was always that Trump had the policy of removing kids who arrived with their parents from them as part of a zero tolerance policy. I'm not pleased with the lack of progress with the border and unaccompanied minors, but there has been a surge and supposedly movement in the right direction. Its on my watch list. Maybe Fox or OAN will do an expose and show us what the conditions are like right now. I would like to know. I'm pretty sure 700x is an exaggeration, though the surge in activity has shot the numbers up significantly.

I don't want open borders. I just think a wall is a dumb solution. I say use drones, aerostats, and increased patrols. I also believe as Ronald Reagan said, that just because someone came here illegally in the past, if they are living here and obeying the laws now, they deserve a path to citizenship. I would like better treatment for people coming to us as refugees, but that is pretty far off topic.

obama did exactly the very same thing...and what more...obama had built the cages that the children were sheltered in....Cages that the liberals had then went on to accuse Trump of building....until the truth came out that they were built by obama. Thees same cages are 7 times more overcrowded today by children! An obama who was named by the Hispanics as the the Deporter-in-Chief President.....by the way!!

Not denying that unaccompanied minors were held in cages. But it was Trump who implemented a zero tolerance policy that separated children from families. They also didn't keep good records of kids to parents. Parents were eventually released and kids weren't returned. At last glance, there are still 600+ separated children where we haven't been able to get them back to their parents. I don't like unattended minors being kept in poor conditions, but the separating of minors (effectively making them unaccompanied) was worse. And Obama did deport more than Trump...but I thought we were importing voters...the narrative is so confusing.

Apart from the fact that liberal obama had also separated parents from their kids and was known as the Deporter-In-Chief of parents....the zero is just liberal emphasis bullshit! The separation had occurred because the parents had broken American law when they had crossed the border. When you break the law in America you get separated from your children.....even for American citizen. Tell me why Americans who break the law are separated from their children (when they go to prison) and non-Americans breaking the law should NOT be treated the same? Like really!!!!!

I don't know what to tell you. This went to court. Trump was ordered to stop the policy. It wasn't happening before. Why aren't Americans are separated - false equivalency since we are locking the kids up too. But either way it was a change in policy.

Look, if you agree with the policy, then own it. If you think they are criminals trying to cross the border with their kids and you support taking those kids away and putting them in lockup as a deterrent and threat to other parents trying to cross with their kids, then gain, say so. But don't pretend it wasn't something that started under Trump. Or say, yeah, I disagreed with that policy. Have the courage of your conventions.

You said "Gore isn't a profit".....I most certainly am happy that you recognized that....CONGRATULATIONS! But you do have to admit that the man sure does know how to turn a "profit" though. He may not be a "profit" but he sure is the "prophet" of this modern-day climate change lunacy....I mean the man has single-handedly created the entire scam and went from being worth almost ZERO! to being worth more than $300 MILLION USD today!
You claim that "We have made progress when it comes to the climate"....but from you position that should be simply NOT TRUE! What progress? China is now producing more emission that every other developed country combined, they have build 3 times more coal plants in 2020 than the rest of the world combined!....and they plan to build an additional 300 more coal plants in China and along the Silk Highway all the way to Africa. And that is just China. NOTHING the West does will even put a dent in what China is pouring out on Earth....even if the West completely annihilated fossil fuel! What you lunatics predict as doom will still come true! But yet people like you will NEVER criticize China! You instead care only about bankrupting the West to the benefit of China! China just openly mocked your idiot Greta....calling here a stooge of the West!

China produces more emissions than the U.S., but not per capita. We produce more per person.

China coal- yes they did. That doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. Their least polluted cities have air quality worse than LA. This doesn’t prove anything except that we need to become less reliant on China and pressure them to reduce emissions.

Yes! But China (18% of the world's population) produces 27% (and rocketing fast) of all emission while the USA is just 11% (and falling). Don't worry China will surpass the USA per capita very soon at the rate that it has been going. You said that "Their least polluted cities have air quality worse than LA"....but that just tells you that they just do not care about the cost of their modernization or what it does to their citizens! They will not stop using coal and other fossil fuels and there is absolutely NOTHING that the West can do about that....."pressure them to reduce emissions"....HOW! You have just got to be kidding about that! How old are you to be that deluded? China is NOT going to stop for anything! All that climate change lunatics like you will end up doing is to ruin their own countries!

China is 18.47% population and 28% of admissions, agreed <you said 27%, but close enough
USA is 4.25% of the population and 15%. China emits 7.38 tons per person and the US emits 15.52 tons per person.

https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/each-countrys-share-co2-emissions

I'm not defending China. This isn't about blame, its about doing better. Just because they are doing worse doesn't remove it as an issue. We should be leading, not following. We should develop renewable energy and make it cheap.

I also said that China was catching up fast and will overtake us per capita in a few years at the rate they have been rocketing......and their energy sources and emissions are much more dirty than ours (ours meaning the West). We have been developing renewable energy....we really have and then we have been fueling it up with our fossil fuels. Renewables will only work in specific areas and only small scale for the foreseeable future....the only viable alternative is nuclear....but oh....greenies do not want that either. They just want unrecyclable windmills and such that we have in bury in 15 years or so in landfills, are extraordinarily expensive, and barely work even when the wind is blowing....and that is not even mentioning the hundreds of thousands of birds that these windmills kill each year!

Now here, you actually do make some good points. The world isn't black and white and there is nuance. We have over 842 cars per 1000 people, they have 204. They consume double the amount of meat we do, but that isn't per capita. I don't think China will overtake us anytime soon on a per capita basis.

There are people on the left against Nuclear. I'm ambivalent, but think its definitely better than fossil fuels. I like hydro and solar for the most part, but Wind is good as well. Older windmill blades were worse than current ones. There is still considerable room for improvement.

You said "His own words? Source? Trillions? Sorry, but no.

Only because of his father. Yeah, probably. Nepotism is a bitch, but not illegal.

Trump only made deals before...meh. I could argue that, but it hardly seems that important.

Joe was involved - well that is an accusation. Got any of that evidence?

Joe nearly filled bankruptcy while VP because of medical debt incurred for his dying son, Beau. So this "he is a grifter who got rich in office" talk is bogus. He made his money with public appearances and book deals after he left office. If he was that dirty it would have been run constantly in ads and talked up. Not just the rumors. So instead, just make claims and assume people are too lazy to check or want it to be true.

Hid it? But then how do I know about it? Weird. It's almost like it was covered and investigated.

Play the victim if you want, but even if 90% of med"

My responce: hahahahahahahahahah

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You said "Step away from Q TV.....and that "Hunter was a partner in a firm that manages Chinese assets..."

First, I do not have tv and I absolutely have no idea what QTV is! And even if I had a TV I would NOT look at American news....of any stripe. I do my own research!

Second, It was Hunter HIMSELF who had stated on live TV that if he was not the son of Biden, if his name was not biden that he would not have gotten that massive 1.5 TRILLION loan! His words....he must be the despair of his father! Mnay other Wall Street firms have chimed in and stated that this had never happened before and that they could never have gotten such a deal....the Chinese do not part with there money that easily!

Third, Hunter' business partner Bobulinski had stated that old demented Joe was involved in these deals.

Fourth, Trump made his deal with China before he was president and that deal was many years in the works. He was forced to abandon them when the liberals had made such a outcry. Contrast that with the biden's deal(s)...just China for now (but there was also Romania, Ukraine, Kazahkstan, Russia, other China deals)....Those were made when old demented joe was VICE-PRESIDENR!

Now stand back and just imagine if this was all about Trump and his son Eric, in the place of old demented joe and hunterr....exactly how do you think that the liberal media (who is over 90% of the mainstream media) would have responded! Instead the media hid it before the elections for biden.....and then hushed it up quickly after the election! Some media even banned people who had reported it!

His own words? Source? Trillions? Sorry, but no.

Only because of his father. Yeah, probably. Nepotism is a bitch, but not illegal.

Trump only made deals before...meh. I could argue that, but it hardly seems that important.

Joe was involved - well that is an accusation. Got any of that evidence?

Joe nearly filled bankruptcy while VP because of medical debt incurred for his dying son, Beau. So this "he is a grifter who got rich in office" talk is bogus. He made his money with public appearances and book deals after he left office. If he was that dirty it would have been run constantly in ads and talked up. Not just the rumors. So instead, just make claims and assume people are too lazy to check or want it to be true.

Hid it? But then how do I know about it? Weird. It's almost like it was covered and investigated.

Play the victim if you want, but even if 90% of media is liberal, that isn't all. Conservatives are the loudest silenced group I've ever seen.

Then you are shortsighted....I have been to China 4 times and I have seen an entire 40 story skyscraper go up in 3 weeks. My wife is Chinese....In none of the cities could I see more than 40 feet ahead on most days.....(well maybe except for Heilongjiang). I saw a blue sky in Beijing only 2 out of 14 days in Beijing. People are hacking and spitting around....because the pollution is so bad......but they do not care! They mean to overtake the USA and they will do anything to achieve that dream. The very first time I was in China the middle class was just miniscule....that was just 12 years ago! Today it is massive and that same middle class is gobbling up luxuries like there is no tomorrow....and it also shows no slowing down......as many move upwards to the rich class! Buddy! You have no idea what you are talking about!

I'm confused - are you arguing that we need to go green or not? I'm half convinced China is going to poison themselves. The attitude that China isn't being good so we shouldn't...nah. Do the right thing, follow the science, and if China continues to offset our progress then we form coalitions and ban them. They want money and trade (which they do), then they will have to comply.

You said "I might be oversimplifying the deal with China, but they want international trade and are susceptible to pressure of the world comes together on it. To really put it to them we would have to be on the same page. And whichever party is in at the time needs to not weaponize the price hike. The strategy of doing nothing is a no go."

MY response: Oh Fuc@ing yes! You are oversimplifying things! Who is going to lead this great pressure? The USA under Biden! Hahahaha....His son took out over 1.5 BILLION USD from China and there was a reason for that! The liberals even refuse to say anything negative about China! Nobody had the balls to do anything but Trump with his massive taxes on China's imports. Had Trump won a 2nd term he would have brought China to its knee....and he had them there as their economy was about to crash! No one else will stand up to China....not Europe either....a bunch of pussyfoots! No one else is capable.....there will be no union!
Have patience.....wait and see and you will observe that the liberals will do what they are best at....what they are masters at....how did you put it....masters at "The strategy of doing nothing"

Step away from Q TV.
Hunter was partner of an equity firm that managers Chinese assets. It's in the billions far as assets. That doesn't make them Bidens. I'm not naive - that could be bribe, but him having business with a Chinese company is hardly a smoking gun any more than Trump's business ventures were. Feel free to be suspicious and maybe it should be investigated, but he isn't the President.

Bidens strategy with China is a containment strategy to stop the spread of their influence abd finance. This will include alliances in the area. Beijing news actually reported more continuity than expected between Trump and Biden policies. Talk is cheap, so we'll see where it all goes.

America can't do this alone. As big as we are, if we are going into an economic cold war we will need to line up allies.

Liberals don't say anything bad about China - that's funny. But again, talk is cheap. We'll see.

You said "Do the right thing, follow the science, and if China continues to offset our progress then we form coalitions and ban them. They want money and trade (which they do), then they will have to comply."
That is not how it works in China....You are deluded if you think China cares a shit about any of these things! These people harvest their own people organs when they say things that the CPP does not like. Right now over ONE MILLION of their citizens....muslims....are in reeducation prisons....China is a extraordinarily proud country and it will NOT be dictated to! You are an innocent....may the universe help your deluded self.
As for the right science....when the two sides sit down and argue fairly over this topic of climate change then I will listen....until then I will be a sceptic. That false consensus (which has no place in science does not work for me (there is only one place for consensus and that is in politics). Those data being put out by unnamed so-called "sientists" will go ignored. It was the UN itself (at least its top advisor anyways) who said that NOTHING we do will make any change and that the entire goal was to transfer wealth to the underdeveloped world!

I might be oversimplifying the deal with China, but they want international trade and are susceptible to pressure of the world comes together on it. To really put it to them we would have to be on the same page. And whichever party is in at the time needs to not weaponize the price hike.

The strategy of doing nothing is a no go.

"That climate model was likely a worst case scenario and assumed that we continued as we were. "the arctic will melt" wasn't a prediction with a full stop at the end - it was assuming things didn't change. We have made progress when it comes to the climate, it just isn't enough."

For people who believe the Earth is billions of years old and has gone through asteroids, massive volcanic activity, massive floods, arctic freezes (ice age), I don't understand the worry that some humans are going to essentially end the planet with some plastic bags and trees being cut down.

The truth is the planet goes through extreme weather cycles. It's natural. The thought that we humans can stop the cycles by using less plastic bags and riding bikes everywhere, is blatantly absurd. Right now we're going through another "ice age."

https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/earth-might-be-heading-for-ice-age-for-30-years-in-2020-claim-scientists-2486403.html

Oh, for sure, the earth will be fine. But we are pretty much at the top of the pecking order as things are now. Climate shifting is likely to screw us over as a nation and possibly as a species. I saw the attached imaged not long ago. its funny...but... 59b4ge.jpg (click to show)

Well COVID is another hoax. The Democratic party gained LOTS of power over people manipulating them with fear of COVID, do you REALLY think they are going to let go that power so easily? You must be VERY naive if you actually believe that COVID will be over, it will not be over while Dems control media, social media and they are in power. BUT look, the biggest lie is Biden saying he had a plan for COVID, lots of retards fell for it. History has shown that fear is the #1 tool used to manipulate weak minded people.

Why did Trump spend so much money on operation Warp Speed to fight a hoax?

What do you think would have happened if he had not done anything? Specifically, what do you think that the liberals leadership and media (over 90% of which is controlled by the liberals) have shouted? They had already called him Hitler without him ever having killed ONE SINGLE PERSON....in comparison to the 20 million deaths directly attributed to Hitler!

Comparisons to Hitler were I think more related to the seeming 'cult of personality' unwillingness of his followers to criticize him rather than any actual mass murder.

He was president, he appointed the head of the CDC, the head of the FDA, he appointed the COVID taskforce, and over half of the state Governors and the Senate were controlled by Republicans. He had Fox news (to a degree), OAN, and NewsMax. If there were fake cases, he could have sent investigators out to each and every death to confirm whether it was COVID and no matter how expensive, it would have been better for the economy.

Asking myself "what would he have done if it was that way" is a really effective way of realizing he knew it was real. But I think he needed the votes of people who he wasn't sure would believe it just because he said so.

Really....More than the cult of obama....who created more debt in America than every single other president before him: COMBINED! It was under obama's cult that America underwent it greatest racial divide ever....when he had pitted race against race! That is well documented also! This is what Trump had to face when h came into office!
And as for covid.....the tests were not accurate in the early days and sending out investigators would have been futile. There is also the mandate that the CDC had sent out also that had stated that any doctor could diagnose covid deaths with out a PCR test! Most of the early deaths were in democrats states. Do you really think that democrats would have allowed Trump to just waltz in and test deaths in their states....when they were throwing even road kills into that barrel? America's average flu death is about 38,000 per year....IN 2020 it was less than 5,000! You can guess where the missing flu deaths ended up! Like REALLY....Again, which delusional world are you living in! biden can do that today also but you just know that he is NOT going to do that....Who can say if they are even accurate today.....as one can only go off of what the WHO had said in Jan/21 "Where test results do not correspond with the clinical presentation, a new specimen should be taken and retested using the same or different NAT technology." Which translates to....If you get a positive test for someone with no symptoms, re-test them. Or rather: any PCR positive test is potentially a false positive. WHO went on to clarify "Most PCR assays are indicated as an aid for diagnosis". Note it says “an aid for diagnosis” and NOT “a diagnostic test”. And the PCR test is our gold standard for diagnosing COVID.

There were some people who like Obama a lot. He actually disappointed a lot of people. We thought he represented change. He over promised and under delivered. But yes, as an example, there are people on the right who called Obama worst than Hitler and said he was a terrorist, etc. So yeah, that is a pretty sound comparison.

He pitted race against race...I don't see it.

Increased Debt: the 2009 budget that took our debt so high wasn't signed by Obama - it was signed by Bush - it left us $1.4 trillion in debt
* The 2017 budget passed by Obama left our deficit at 665 billion (this is a deficit decrease of 53%) 59bhsv.jpg (click to show)

Do I think Democrats would have let... yes, but then I don't think it was a conspiracy. I do know rates were the same in Republican states and they didn't do it there either. Throwing in deaths that were unrelated - its been said, but its accusations are cheap.

Flu deaths - COVID has been said since the beginning to be much more contagious than the Flu. So countermeasures in place to prevent COVID were more effective against the flu. I personally think this makes sense and is awesome. There have actually been quite a few studies looking at this. I'd gladly share...

PCR - an aid for diagnosis - You are implying that the retests didn't occur?

When obama took office the debt was 9 trillion....when he left it was around 20 trillion

Fair point on the debt. I was thinking deficit, but that is spending based. Obama took over at the beginning of a recession after a budget he didn't approve already included the bailouts. I'm not saying we didn't need need the bailout, but it is an aggravating factor. Kind of like the giant debt jump related to COVID isn't 100% Trump's fault.

Obama become president in Jan 2009....The recession was over in April 2009.....hitting rock bottom with nowhere else to go but up! Sure he should have spent money....but over 10 trillion!!!!.....mostly into badly run businesses. Nope! That was his policy, this was what he decided to do....that was his failure....he had other options.....just really bad liberal advisors. His policy was was extraordinarily harmful to the US economy and it failed and had left an economy around 2% for his entire presidency. When asked why he said that a large economy cannot grow as fast anymore (or words to that effect) and that 2% was there to stay. And mocked Trump asking him if he had a magic wand....whereupon Trump went out and smashed all records about wealth creation before him!

Budgets are passed in October, so the government was operating under the previous budget until Oct 2009. The bailouts were part of that. Much has been said about those, but I personally don’t think we had many good choices.

I’m not blaming bush. I think people give the President too much credit for the economy. With the exception of a pandemic or major war, the economy is slow to react.

So why, with record growth and no new wars, did both the deficit and debt continue up under Trump? I’m talking pre COVID.

I’m not trying to blame one party here, I’m just pointing out that it’s more complicated than that and both parties have been part to the debt rising.

On race....Sixty percent of respondents in a Rasmussen poll released Tuesday said race relations have deteriorated under Mr. Obama, the highest mark since he was elected eight years ago. That number is up 18 points since 2014, when 42 percent said the relationship between the races had worsened. (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/19/race-relations-reach-all-time-low-under-obama-poll/

The election of the nation’s first black president raised hopes that race relations in the U.S. would improve, especially among black voters. But by 2016, following a spate of high-profile deaths of black Americans during encounters with police and protests by the Black Lives Matter movement and other groups, many Americans – especially blacks – described race relations as generally bad.(https://www.pewresearch.org/2017/01/10/how-america-changed-during-barack-obamas-presidency/)

https://marcchamot.blogspot.com/2012/10/ap-poll-race-more-divided-under-obama.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/barack-obama/deep-racial-divide-remains-under-obama-n186211

You said: "So why, with record growth and no new wars, did both the deficit and debt continue up under Trump? I’m talking pre COVID".

I am just an observer looking in but what the hell do you think happens when you arrive in the office as president with:
- a massive debt of over TWENTY TRILLION DOLLARS? (that continue to gather debt every single days of hundreds of million of dollars? You still have to pay that interest!
- an army that has been gutted and neglected for 8 years....with one army general noting that they did not even have enough ammunition to fight a war....that had required a cash infusion of over 700 billion dollars each year of his presidency
- A bloated welfare system that is almost 1.1 TRILLION USD per year and growing with no end in sight! (Too much takers and not enough givers in the USA)! It is more than a quarter of the budget!
- President Donald Trump released a would-be record $4.829 trillion federal budget proposal for fiscal year (FY) 2021 on Feb. 5, 2020. The U.S. government estimates it will receive $3.863 trillion in revenue, creating a $966 billion deficit for Oct. 1, 2020, through Sept. 30, 2021. Most of it was for liberal pet projects because without them (they control the House) no budget can be passed!

But my general observation is that Americans in public live far beyond their means (in private they do not do this because they know that if they do that they will go bankrupt!). It should be the same with the government. If a government cannot live within a reasonable budget then they should leave....resign! I see the problems as being with the liberals as they are the ones who bombard the budget with ridiculous pet projects items and massive welfare. Once you give people something then it is almost impossible to take it back! Then when the Conservatives come in and try to rein in the spending then they are demonize and so every govt is stuck with a bloated budget. Here is the time....if the American govt continue to spend as they are doing today then soon there will be no money to give anyone or provide for anything else....infrastructure....pensions....those will be a thing of the past! The federal budget will not be even able to pay the interest on it debt! It will be a failed country! Canada is also in the same position. Its Prime Minister...a liberal.....has moved it federal debt from 500 billion to over 1.1 Trillion dollars in just four years.

Basic economics: we budgeted more than we brought in. We increased the debt ceiling, cut taxes, and didn't make the promised cuts. He ran on a promise to eliminate the debt in 8 years. He was making no progress towards that. The budget passed and approved by him operated in a deficit. I’m not saying he’s worse than any other over the last 40 years, but he also wasn’t better.

You are right. We have to budget appropriately and pay down the debt. Not right away with the evening as it is, but we need to do it as soon in the recovery as feasible.

Democrats were putting pressure on him, you know this, or where you living in a cave the whole time? Use some common sense.

People were putting pressure on him? Well, golly, who would have thought people would put pressure on the president of the United States? /S

Don't give me that. Being an elected official involves working with the other party. If you don't have the votes, you compromise. Cutting spending wasn't a priority. Cutting taxes was.

working, yes, constantly being attacked, no. See the difference? Do you know the difference between working with and being attacked? Because Trump was under constant attack by democrats and the media. Do you see Biden being impeached, going to trial, and media lying about him to demonize him? You are comparing oranges to apple, you are delusional.

When he won, he was in the same shoes Biden finds himself now: Republicans had a thin majority in both houses. He had an opportunity to get stuff done then. It may not have been long, but the Democratic majority may well be gone soon as well.

Did any Republicans vote for the stimulus even though the majority of their constituency support it? Did McConnel block the appointment of Garland to the SC? Did he stop the appointment of other federal judges under Obama? Yes he did. How many people were clamoring for Trumps birth certificate and claiming he wasn't even an American? How many people stormed the capitol to stop his confirmation? Yes there were protests, but there was no storming.

Go browse Breitbart, OAN, NewsMax, or InfoWars and get back with me on how the press is treating Biden.

Impeachment - Too soon to say. Trump hadn't been impeached at the 6 month mark. Also, maybe don't ask another country to investigate a rival or lie about election results when even your own AG is confirming there is no evidence of fraud. I get that you think that just because he wasn't convicted means it was a waste of money, but there was an accusation of a crime, there was an investigation, and there was a trial. If you can come up with an impeachable crime for Biden, then impeach him.

You left behind media. Media was the was the biggest aggressor, and tool used to manipulate people. We are comparing Biden and Trump, please do not add Obama, you are just throwing more variables. I am not even going to entertain that. You also did not answer if you knew the difference between working with and attacking, because you said "Being an elected official involves working with the other party." So you came back with oh no, but democrats are also under attack, so it is not about working with but attacks. Which is the issue, why are they not working together? Why is the Media attacking our president? And too soon to say withing the context of Biden Impeachment? Trump was being attack from day 1 he was appointed president. You clearly playing sides here, and of course you will, you are a democrat, that is the expected behavior.

I know the difference between working with and attacking. What I'm saying is we are a country divided. Most of what you are saying Trump endured, Obama endured and Biden will probably endure. I will not ignore Obama because you have only 4 months of Biden presidency to go on. Also, ignoring behavior related to Obama is pretending things happened in a bubble. Trump was vocal birther well after Obama had proven his citizenship to the satisfaction of all reasonable people. So he comes to us already as someone who isn't reasonable and doesn't care about facts.

I didn't ignore the media (is that what leave behind means?). I assume you want to just talk about the MSM that leans left (and they do exist for sure), but I'm pointing out that there is media leaning right as well who is doing the exact same thing to Biden.

Trump was attacked since day 1 - I reiterate - people literally stormed the capital to stop Biden from being confirmed as president.

I'm not 'playing sides'. Everyone has a perspective. I clearly am on the left, but I also respect facts. I will acknowledge where democrat's and/or the left drop the ball, because I've seen how people who can't acknowledge those things act, and I don't want to go there.

If you want to bring up how Biden lied about his transcripts back in the day; how Obama deported more people than Trump and went after whistle blowers; how every President for the last two decades has used drones in ways that killed innocents; or anything that is supported by facts, I'm on board. I have principles I hold dear, policies I'd like to see supported, things I'd like to change in this country, and things I'd like to stay the same. What I don't have is any single politician who I refuse to criticize. The economy wasn't perfect under Obama - he made mistakes in helming the recover, but hindsight is like that. Trump did good and bad things for the economy. The long term effects of this trade negotiations with China could have gone either way, but short term farmers were hurt. some of what he was trying might have worked and it might have been worth it if COVID19 hadn't pretty much invalidated that work. His policy of working with Mexico to have them help control the flow of refugees to our border was a good idea and worked well - not sure I love it exactly, but we can't help them all and letting them get to the border before telling them that isn't good for anyone.

Any excuse will do when the facts do not align with the narrative. Ignore the overall message, and don't believe your lying eyes.

Anthropogenic global warming is worse than a hoax, it is a lie set in place to grab trillions in wealth from the middle class and the poor from around the world. And you are an idiot to defend the indefensible. The point of the meme is that the Grand High Priest of Global Warming said it would be too warm for their to be ANY snow or ice in the polar regions. That still ain't the case, and we are nowhere close to it being the case.

F%^& Gore. There is no high priest because there is no cult. You look for evidence to support what you want to believe. I'm going to stick with the majority of experts and the evidence that I see. We have had a few colder winters, but on average, they have been warmer. You ignore patterns of warmer days because of one record low month? Sorry (not sorry) but that isn't how this works.

You said that "He ran on a promise to eliminate the debt in 8 years. He was making no progress towards that. The budget passed and approved by him operated in a deficit. I’m not saying he’s worse than any other over the last 40 years, but he also wasn’t better"

My responce: Did he get a chance?....he was NOT president for 8 years! He inhereted a debt of 20 TRILLION US DOLLARS. A armed forced that had been abondoned by obama and the liberals. A huge welfare states organized by the liberals free handouts, A house that was controlled by the liberals and they would have to sign off on any budget and that never happened except if their wasteful wishlist was included! An then there was covid!

Nevertheless, he massively grew the economy (when obama stated that it could not be done and that Trump would have to have a majic wand to do so), gave America the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years (Lowest women, Blacks, Hisopaniscs etc etc etc.). What is the unemployment rate now...alreay over 6%. Hmmm! I should make a meme about old demented joes achievement over the last four months....war in israel, china threatening taiwan/the US Navy, Iran making threats openly....and old Joe once again paying themm off). American is once again WEAK! A PUSSY!

Are you blaming the post COVID unemployment on Joe? Damn. That's cold. But that's my point. Trump knew all that going in. Shouldn't there have been progress?

I'm sorry you think so poorly of America. Love it or leave it, I guess.

Nope! No more than the liberals were blaming the great economy that Trump had created after the mediocre economic preformance of obama ....who said that Americans would have to live with a slow growing economy as it could never grow any faster.......and than mockingly stated that if Trump had wanted it to grow any faster then he would need a Magic Wand....Trump then came into the presidency and showed that no magic wand was need as he rocked up the economy..............................Yep! no more that that great economy was banlamed not on Trump (that Trump had created) but on obama.....the most useless president in the history of America.....until biden came along!

It is not Trump who has facistically kept closed the democrats states economies....but rather democrat state governors! So yes! Liberals get the blame for this one! End of this conversation!

That seems like a totally balanced analysis. /s

What does blame have to do with actual progress? If he did grow the economy like he said he would, why didn't he pay the debt down? The first budget passed after he was elected was passed with both the house and senate under Republican control. You could make the case on any after that, but not the first.

Those sneaky Democratic states, following the guidance put out by the CDC and the White House task force. Question though: who closed the Republican states?

What metric are you using for economic growth? Trump took over during and presided over the longest bull market in history (March 2009 - March 2020). Looking at a chart of GDP growth It doesn't look like much of a difference. Yes, Obama took over during the first negative GDP growth since the 90's, but by 2010 our growth was back to normal. Our best year under Obama was 2.91% growth and under Trump it was 2.93% growth. I'm not blaming Trump for anything here. He did keep the economy going (in so much as any President has any control of the economy). But other than "its just something Republican's say", what growth metrics are we looking at?

You said "I'm going to stick with the majority of experts and the evidence that I see".
What they hell are you talking about. I see or know of no evidence that does not deviate from the overall trend....the gradual melting that has been occurring even since the Little Ice Age....coming out of an abnormal cold period as it were! And I certainly do not know of this majority of experts that you are talking about....You mean the consensus that was created by Cook from Australia....where he took just over 12,000 ABSTRACTS....send it around to his friends for review. Threw out over 11,000 of these when they did not fit his narrative....narrowed down the original 12,000 to just about 34 ABSTRACTS that fully agreed to his version of the truth....did some fancy maths and then gleefully declared that 99% of scientists agree that climate change was real? (all that from 34 abstracts out of 12,000....or just 0.28333333333333% of his original sample). And even then, some of the scientists from that meagre 34 micro-sample had accused him of wantonly misrepresenting their views. That consensus? You have got to be FUC@ING kidding me!

https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/17/do-scientists-agree-on-climate-change/ They have sources here.

I don’t like the idea of being lied to. I’ve gone down the rabbit hole on the other side as well and the “I won’t believe it no matter what” attitude is pretty obvious. The opposition latches into anything that send to contradict climate science without any filter or considerate. Pointing out errors in early thinking and corrections as if they were somehow gotchas. The history of the discovery of the greenhouse effect and its effect on climate change, the first models, the original genuine skepticism, and eventual near consensus are just too compelling.

If a few scientists made mistakes, that doesn’t invalidate the underlying principle. Doctors have made claims on cures to diseases that turned out to be wrong or lies and most of us still trust medical science.

NASA got this list from the UN. And did you see who was one of the first 3 on that list of scientists.....Yes John Cook who I had referred to....The very guy who is cited over and over again as doing a study that found that 97% of scientist agree with climate change. He is the one the UN (and obama/Gore) cites when claiming that 97% of scientists agree with climate change. The other person, Oreskes, was the first and she did a similar flawed study as Cook, if I recall correctly....but she NEVER gave any number as 97%. There was another author....an undergraduate who is also frequently cited who also did the same flawed study as Cook.

I will remind you what Cook did again. He collected just over 12,000 abstracts on climate change (mind you, the ABSTRACTS, not the studies). He then divided these into parcels and sent them out to many of his friends to review. When they were returned he then discarded over 12,000 of them and had kept just 34 of the ABSTRACTS that had fully agreed with his beliefs on climate change. On these 34 ABSTRACTS he did some fancy maths and arrived at the grand conclusion that 97% of scientists agree with climate change. Now I am NOT a mathematician, but 34 out of a study base of over 12,000 abstracts is just 0.28333333333333% (of 1 %) and NOT 97%.
But yet Cook's study is the one that all of these climate change lunatics are citing as reference that 97% of scientists agree that climate change is real! So, the 97% consensus of scientists agree is patently false, even when limited to climate scientists it is still false. A 2016 Cook review found the consensus to be “shared by 90%–100% of PUBLISHING CLIMATE SCIENTISTS." But then, I have already told you how Cook had chosen just 34 out of 12,00 abstracts....so this is patently false also!

Nontheless, none of what I say matters to liberals....because who controls the media....CONTROLS THE NARRATIVE!

Here is an article from FORBES that tells you a bit more about that how that 97% was achieved erroneously:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/

The Forbes article is an opinion piece. That doesn’t make it false, but I normally avoid opinion pieces. But we’ll make an exception. It spends a lot of time inserting doubt, but doesn’t actually replace it with anything. He also points out that some were classified improperly, but doesn’t give an actual number. Why not? I’m guessing because it was insignificant. Why not calculate the actual number? Is it 80%? 65%? 9%? Don’t quote a number and it’s harder for people to refute you. It’s important to listen to what people don’t say as much as what they do say.

https://skepticalscience.com/97-percent-consensus-cook-et-al-2013.html

Skeptical science (yes, cook) reviewed 12000 articles. Additionally, they reached out to the authors.
“As an independent test of the measured consensus, we also emailed over 8,500 authors and asked them to rate their own papers using our same categories. The most appropriate expert to rate the level of endorsement of a published paper is the author of the paper, after all. We received responses from 1,200 scientists who rated a total of over 2,100 papers. Unlike our team's ratings that only considered the summary of each paper presented in the abstract, the scientists considered the entire paper in the self-ratings.”

As far as only reading the abstract: “An abstract is an outline/brief summary of your paper and your whole project. It should have an intro, body and conclusion. ... Abstracts highlight major points of your research and explain why your work is important; what your purpose was, how you went about your project, what you learned, and what you concluded.” Reviewing an abstract should be sufficient in most cases. Yes there will be errors, but as shown in your referenced Forbes oped, they are engaging with people about those.