You know what they say about Libs and double standards...

Trump was forced to capitulate his position and threw his supporters under the bus.

YEAH OK

Well the BLM riots were not trespassing federal property and vandalizing it were they?
And since they're being charged with felonies they can't use that beloved second amendment right.

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Now they're all suddenly quiet about supporting the BLM riots

funny how that works

The fact that Republicans didn't do jack after Charlottesville shows how much of gaslighting piece of shit you are.

What should have been done? Public executions? Tell us baby tyrant what you want to do to people who protest? Let’s do the same to BLM and Antifa you hypocrite asswipe.

Stop lying.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fact-check-democrats-have-condemned-violence-linked-protests/3317862001/

Ya they mentioned they don’t support after months of it. They never denounced it. They never called for anything like what they want now. You a hypocrite and you know it. You rationalized leftist violence and want rightist violence punished extremely. Your a hypocrite like all laws for thee and not for me Democrats we have tons of recent examples.

You are 100% correct!

Actually, the first sentence is a lie.

Oh? Could you elaborate on that? I'm an independent and genuinely thought he was right. But if you can prove otherwise I'm open to listening.

1:42 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfLPYh8a4nQ&t=140s
[whole video] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzVc-f5g6EY&t=20s
BONUS: BLM protesters protecting buildings from being looted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBbPJsNZMPg

I will make sure to watch these. There were a lot of horrible things that came from the Conservative riot and Liberal protests but it would be nice to know that BLM doesn't support it. Lately, I've leaned more Conservative due to the violence that Liberals have inspired and because people have tried to use white guilt against me. But then the Conservatives turned around and did it. Regardless of a political party, this might restore some faith in proper humanity. And defending other humans regardless of what side you're on. Thank you!!

Can we be friends?

sure!! oh I never properly introduced myself. It's nice to meet you I'm Bun!

Once again... Idk if you're busy but could you explain in further detail?

Sorry was busy, just a sec It's been four hours. This is a forum, not a chat room :P

It's no problem! (=

You’re right! They never denounced any rioting. They encouraged looting as looking for bread. Right AOC.

AOC didn’t say that?

"They never denounced any rioting."

Post proof she denounced it.

Not true. When riots first broke out in Atlanta, Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms told everyone to go home and that's not protesting, that's rioting. And I think I'd know because I live in Metro Atlanta. Go search the speech up on YouTube. An hour isn't "months"

I’ll give you Bottoms speech o saw it and applauded it. She was quickly brow beaten into silence by the left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVs8JXqLPs8
Please use better English bro...

Correction I instead of O. Please use better arguments bro all of yours are lies

I have video proof. What more could you possibly want?

Video proof of what. Bottoms speech? I already gave that to you. I said I saw it and applauded it, but she quickly was browbeaten by the mob into toning down her reaction after being called an Uncle Tom etcetera. The mayor of Atlanta what about Pelosi, Schumer, the rest of the Capitol Hill gang?

No you said no democrats called out the riots for months and that was a lie. And i never mentioned them, we're talking about Atlanta, but okay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dNV-rOs5zs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbPVRzVP3pQ

We weren’t talking about Atlanta that’s where you had to go because no one else panned out.

And I gave you want you wanted too. Didn't I?

And they called it out after they could safely resume certifying the electoral votes.

They called out the BlM and Antifa riots? Denounced the perpetrators of violence.

I'm talking about the capitol...

Trump told the protestors to go home, and they did. Democrat politicians encouraged protesters to keep going.

No they went home after the D.C. curfew. Don't get your facts mixed up bud!

Unlike BLM protestors who refused to go home after curfew.
As for facts, I heard (on radio news so I don’t have “proof” you’re going to ask for) that most of the protestors started leaving when things turned violent.

The D.C. curfew was at 6:00 PM EST. Most people didn't go home until 9. I watched on national news so I have the "proof" you're gonna ask me for.
And BLM protesters did go home. Just because everyone else but me goes home doesn't mean everyone stayed.

“And BLM protesters did go home”
Which night? There were so many nights of BLM protests it’s kind of hard to figure out which one you’re talking about.

Again, Just because everyone else but me goes home doesn't mean everyone stayed.

Yes, some stayed and had to be told to leave but most went home. I watched it on the news too. Keep in mind, the news reports things that are exciting, controversial, etc. Protestors going home on their own accord doesn’t fit that bill so they aren’t going to report about it . . . unless it fits their leftist bias.
This was a one-time incident, unlike the BLM riots that took place almost every night for several months in several locations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9BSYBegOP8

"Democrat politicians encouraged protesters to keep going." *raises eybrows* Grand claims require grand evidence.

Nancy Pelosi not only endorsed BLM protests, she walked and posed for pictures with the protestors.
https://youtu.be/fz5tRwM-IVw

I don't see any rioting.... Where's the rioting?
Oh right, you didn't say riots, you said protests. Two different things.
Oh right, because common sense says that she's endorsing the protests that are not violent...

I didn’t see any rioting during Trump’s speech or tweets.
Oh, right because common sense says he was endorsing the protests and not violence. Try using some of that common sense yourself.

I sure did. I watched the whole thing unfold and Trump only tweeted twice during the riot. And they weren't about the riot. And the riot was live in The White House.

You have sources that cite him as in the white house during the riot?

Not it's common sense. How else would he be able to call members of congress? How would he have made the video of him in the Rose Garden?

"If that was the case then why was he tweeting before he made it?
And why did his wife copy words from her RNC speech?"
Excellent questions. At this point, all we have is conjecture.

I'm on board with you.

I just need concrete proof so that when I bring this claim to people who would seek to debunk it, they won't be able to.

It is entirely possible that he had been somewhere else, not aware of the news (I mean he claimed not to know about the bounties on our soldiers) for the three hours leading up to his video from the Rose Garden. Figure perhaps he found out about it 30 minutes before the video, a speech was hastily written, edited, revised, camera crew set up, speech given, formatted, sent to the broadcast.

If that was the case then why was he tweeting before he made it?
And why did his wife copy words from her RNC speech?

"I don't see Trump pulling the trigger while loading the gun.
Oh, right because common sense says that he was only loading the gun, not pulling the trigger. Try using some of that common sense yourself."

Did Trump ever tell anyone to go inside the Capitol building, much less break down the doors? No.
I’m not saying that his rally and tweets didn’t incite any violence. What I’m pointing out is the double standard Democrats and the media use to condemn him. If Trump is guilty of inciting violence then so is Nancy Pelosi, Kamala Harris, Maxine Waters, and Ayanna Pressley.

But then, isn't anyone who speaks out in the name of social justice? That's kind of a broad stroke.

Yes, just like the broad stroke used against Trump supporters. It’s total hypocrisy.

In what capacity?

Lie #1. They were not protesters at the capital. They were a sedition/treason committing violent mob.

Lie# 2. He did not tell them to "go home" until after the damage was done and he also did not instantly call out the national guard that action was taking by others. His name or signatures are nowhere on any document concerning the call up.

I'll save this WHOPPER LIE of 1/6/7 for last lol he tells about 7 lies per day last count.

But the lie he told his supporters that "WE ARE GOING TO WALK TO THE CAPITAL" I almost spit up my coke on that one lol.

They cheered in glee and actually believed he would walk with them LOL

I can not understand and maybe I don't want to know out of pure fear why people can be so easily manipulated and then deny his pathological lying, then defend his pathological lying, and lastly lie on behalf of Trump

Please try not to reply with a logical fallacy aimed at deflection

Lie# 3. You are Timberetreat once again pointlessly scamming the site, cowering behind another alt.

See what I did there (again)...?

Looking forward to “Phase 4”, skippy.

❤️~The_King

No I don't see I can not see into or understand the minds of anyone who chooses to Support Trump

Having a least a small amount of morality and human decency is where I choose to stay. I do my best to stay clear of being a hypocrite or applying moral double standards to the world around me

A-moral personality types can be and are factually dangerous. What type of people tend to be A-moral types?

#1. Cops
#2.Politicians
#3.Criminals

Oddly all 3 can be one in can be one in the same.

In NYC there's a color coded wall of lies that Trump has said in the last 4 years.

They are low IQ individuals that feel they need to be part of something "bigger"....a group........that "gets" them, to feel important and smart. Also they need to be assured that THEY are special. And loved. And they can blame OTHERS for their own problems. In this case many of the Trump Cultists are poor white people that can't possibly be in this position because of their own actions or inaction. It HAS to be someone else's fault. BUT- they have been trained to believe rich (and usually white) people in their communities got there by hard work and goodness. So the people they blame are poorer (and usually browner) than themselves. THOSE people are the problem! Instead of voting in their own best interests, they continue to glom onto the coattails of wealthy oligarch types that clearly despise the poor white angry followers but hey, votes are votes, and it keeps the heat off them while the poors are rallying against the poorers. These people can be lied to literally EVERY DAY by Trump and they will defend him because admitting they have been shammed would be admitting they are dumb. Which they are. VERY dumb. And bigoted. But EXTREMELY dumb.

What an arrogant little turd you are. Who are the people rioting over a need to be apart of it? So who yearns to be part of a group? Did you read what you said. Who’s a bigot? You go on and on about dumb white people. That’s the definition of racism. You will never achieve equality with more racism. You reap what you sow. Keep sowing your racism and hate. You will get it back and those people you hold in contempt know it. You’re too stupid to realize you are increasing what you say you’re against by your racist hatred of white people. Guess what they hate you back because you are too stupid to realize it’s not Trump it’s people like you that drive the counter movement. By the way the oligarchs are all on the left now so you’re old narrative and theory is blown, just like your mind.

And that's why BLM riots happened. If nobody notices something peaceful and this has been going on since the 1600's then what's more to do.
And let's move to the French Revolution. 80% of the population was starving and heavily taxed, but when they tried to peacefully protest, they were shot at by the military. Then after that riots broke out in Paris. See anything the same?

Oh the 1619 project to brainwash dummies is strong in you. Ya do some more research o. The French Revolution and its failure and return to monarchy.

I never mentioned 1619. I'm talking about Slavery in Jamestown to Police brutality in 2020. "Ya do some more research 'o' ". And I told you about the cause of the revolution. And it was a yes or no question.

No I don’t see anything the same. Did you see where the French Revolution brought on the reign of terror by the mob of leftists. It was so extreme a monarchical government was re installed under Napoleon the 3rd. Dumb leftists always overreach.

Well I'll tell you. The French were treated horribly so the protested, they got killed for that. They have fear. Fear leads to anger and anger leads to riots. And so did people in America.

Revolution art leftists seized control and began executing everyone who disagrees until they themselves became despised and were executed by the new monarchists.

So you are ok with political violence as long as it fits your side.

Are you okay with supporting a pathological liar and pervert? Because NYC has a color coded wall of all the lies Trump has said in the last 4 years.
Also the Central Park 5. He tried to bring the Death Penalty back in New York for 4 black kids and 1 Hispanic for something they didn't do. And doesn't the constitution say something about "Cruel and Unusual punishments"? Because if injecting drugs and electrocuting someone to death seems alright then that's just f**ked up.
Speaking of that lets bring up George Junius Stinney Jr. He has a 10 minute trial and was illegally executed for the murder of two white girls.

Or let’s bring up the tawana Bradley case where Al sharpton and everyone piled on a fake whittle rape allegation. Or 100 other examples. What it doesn’t change is you are a hypocrite who lacked the ability to see that your idols are false and promote that which you denounce now.

Or lets bring up the Tulsa Race Massacre. Innocent black people were killed by white people from something that didn't have to do with them.
Number of deaths: 36
Injured: 800+; 183 serious injuries; exact number unknown

What year was that?

Wow you described the hand out begging,leftist gamer SJWs perfectly.

The idiots who stormed the Capitol were stupid. But to paint everyone who supported Trump with such a broad brush is also stupid. Do you see all of the BLM protesters as arsonists, looters and murderers based on the acts of those who did those things at the time?

Don’t be such a hypocrit.

Anyone that supported or supports Trump enabled the idiocy of not just Wednesday but the last 4 years. They are complicit. Once they crossed the barricades they went from "protestor" to traitor not just "criminal" like we saw the rioters at the BLM protests.

These Zombie Trump Cult members should be shamed for eternity. And they will be.

Wow nice tyrant rant. Keep it going baby Stalin. Tell us how everyone who disagrees must go to the gulag. You’re a joke, you will reap what you sow.

how is oldwhitemanbad timber's alt? Timber1972 would rather delete their own account (if it wasn't deleted by the mods) than act like a leftist. if they were a user's alt, I'm guessing it would be of toejoe or catdad.

I guess anyone who supported or supports these and other Democrat politicians enabled the idiocy of 7 months of BLM riots. The only difference is, the BLM rioters were unsuccessful trying to get to the White House.

But I agree that the idiots who stormed the Capitol should be not only shamed but put in jail for their crimes. I hope you feel the same about zombie Biden/Harris cult members.

Did you see how well protected the White House and all of DC was then? Imagine that.

No thanks to Nancy Pelosi.

Who said they tried to get into the white house? Just because they put a wall up doesn't mean they were trying to get into the White House. And at the Capitol there were flashbangs. That's it. But for BLM there was police beating protesters, there was tear gas, just so that this man could walk over to a church he's been at before which the pastor said was a lie, and take a picture with a Bible the wrong way.

The news reports showed rioters (AKA “protestors”) breaching barricades trying to get closer to the White House. Do you really think they wouldn’t have broke inside if they had the chance? Don’t be so naive.

No! Because that's stupid. That's a one way ticket to get shot and killed. And if this is so give me the proof.

Committing arson, shooting at cops, etc are also stupid. And yet BLM rioters did it repeatedly for several months in several locations.

Imagine standing before your creator with a Trump Cape on your back? SMH

Could you PM me please? I don't see a place where I can message you.

i only PM other mods of the stream. Sorry.

I understand, thanks for reaching back to me.

I had an issue about one of the mods I wanted to discuss.

Awww...man. Emperor Timber’s triggered...for being epically pwned earlier. After the “Emperor” was shown to have no clothes, or balls. (Oh, the irony.)

Here, have the Royal tissue. Lemme help you blow your nose, child.
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~The_King😎👑🤴🏻

Lie #1 “They were not protesters at the capital. They were a sedition/treason committing violent mob”
Not everyone that went to the Capitol broke into it. Most of the protestors left wen things got violent.

Lie #2 “he also did not instantly call out the national guard”
I never said he did.

Please try to comment with facts instead of accusing people of lying with your own lies.

I don't know what clock you got your time of day from but the peaceful protesters did not just leave when it got violent. They stuck around a long time it took hours to clear them all out

Yes,Mt here were some who did but most of them left before.

I did you simply made a sad attempt to alter what you posted so that is now lie #3

Another lie from you. You’re painting a broad brush accusing everyone who went to the Capitol of being a mob that stormed it. The fact is, those morons were a small segment of the protesters at the Capitol.

No, YOU stop lying, you vile slime. Democrats have done nothing but applaud violence, looting and rioting all year. F—k your “fact check.” Labeling a blatant lie a “fact check” doesn’t change what it is.

Awww....did someone get their fee-fees hurt by the facts? Awww....don't cry......

No, someone is disgusted by lies and people who constantly spew them. (That’s you.)

It is 100% clear lies do not "disgust" as long as you feel they support your personal opinions and make you feel good

Pretending Trump is not a pathological liar won't change the fact he is.

Exactly! you hypocrites support everything you are denouncing, but only if the opposition does it. I love the exposure of Leftist hypocrisy. You have no moral high ground when you promoted it all summer. You are not the good guys. Globalist leftists and woke SJW’s are the enemy.

Your reply proves my point. You are projecting and trying to escape reality.

No matter what you say it will not erase the truth about Trump. And there is nothing hypocritical in my statement because I am addressing your stand alone statement claiming that you are "disgusted" by lies.

you are not because your entire reply to me is a lie

A Trump Cultist can't admit they are a gullible idiot. Their egos are bigger than their mental fortitude. Trump knows they are gullible idiots. Literally EVERYONE knows they are gullible idiots. Even they know they are gullible idiots. They just won't admit it. That's all that matters.

And the legacy of Trump and his idiot followers will be on video and print and file and every form of recorded history for all time. The WORST President EVER supported by the WORST people ever, citizens AND politicians. Their stupidity will be available for generations to see and question. Clinton was being kind calling them "deplorables."

A leftist is a petty tyrant who must always tell others what to think and how to live. They yearn to be enslaved by dogma and hate anyone who refuses their control. Examples? Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Castro, PolPot, Ho Chi Minh all killed more of their own citizens than anything else. All leftists aspire to one party totalitarian rule. Hypocrite traitorous Scum fails to fully describe them.

I'm certain Hitler was an authoritarian, so not on the left. SMH. Actually tyrants plead for the media to be killed. So the first thing a good tyrant will tell you is that all media must die. SOUNDS AWFULLY FAMILIAR.

Nope socialist is leftist. The Nazis were national socialist. It’s in the name moron. You get all twisted because they were nationalists. Does China have a free press? How about Russia? Tell me all about their leftist freedom of speech mr educated.

The fact that you have to address my corrected autospell check in the post tells me you are out of ammo. Later. I will wait until I make another meme amd you will land on my page again. You seem to be my biggest supporter to date. Thanks.

Can’t wait, I love tearing up low intelligence leftist like you.

You are just wrong. Hitler was an authoritarian, not a socialist. AMD the fact that you stated china does not have a free press(no shit sherlock), plays into my hand of all great tyrant hate Greek speech. Does that sound familiar to you? Are you able to see the simulararities here, or should you go back and read this thread again. You are too much. Ignorance is bliss.

What’s Greek speech? Don’t be dumb you tried to portray Nazis as rightist but they were socialists. That makes them leftists. Just like you. All leftists become totalitarian one party states like you are trying to do now. The left has massacred more of their own people than any other religion, politic or belief in history by far.

Free speech, not Greek. :) The Greeks have done nothing. Littarly nothing.

Who rioted all summer? Republicans or leftists? Did you call for it to stop? Did you denounce it?

What stand alone statement claiming disgust at lies? I don’t see where I said that? Making shit up is typical of a lefty. I’m disgusted by hypocrisy and hypocrites like you.

Apparently you don't grasp the English language very well. I stated lies do not disgust you as long as you approve of them. Trump has been a massive pathological lair his entire life and his flock of Trump zealots ignore, deny and lie about it on his behalf.

Do you support Trump if so? Then you are admitting you don't minds lies. As long as well I don't know why or care why you tolerate it from Trump and then spew fake outrage regarding lies from others.

It exposes a flaw in a persons moral character when they are willing to support and defend some one like Trump

It does not matter who peacefully protested and in some events rioted all summer. The possible and actual crimes of others do not relate to what took place in DC.

The fact all of Trumps zealots keep lying and trying to connect them is just another example of why you have a low moral character and lack integrity.

See here’s your problem:

“ I am addressing your stand alone statement claiming that you are "disgusted" by lies.“

You realize what you said is a couple
Boxes up right? That’s all said, maybe in your mind you fleshed out that thought but I doubt it.

Trump owns you and your RSS not me. I am motivated by blithering idiots like you trying to tell me what to do or how to live. What I can say or think. Screw your petty tyrant you are the enemy not Trump.

Holy Molly you are one slow individual I have never stated you are "disgusted by lies" I stated you are NOT "disgusted by them You like Trump lie routinely

But you will never be able to lie as well as Trump he's a special breed of liar and you could never compete I am bored with you I prefer a more intelligent type who can at least lie with at least some talent

These are your words dummy. Copied from Your post. Not is not I. There. You’re too busy trying to run
Your alts you Got mixed up I guess. Or you are too dense
To know you didn’t type what you said. You typed the below. I do not see not there at all.

“I am addressing your stand alone statement claiming that you are "disgusted" by lies.“

It is easy to understand how Trump can so easily sway his followers. I am not "Oldwhitemanbad"

But you are someone who requires lies and whatever logical fallacies you can grasp at in order to make yourself feel as though you are "winning"

Nothing you post that does directly relate to whatever subject is being debated is nothing more than a deflection. I would suggest studying logically fallacies

We can all mistakenly use them but when done purposely all you do is expose your lack of facts, and your willful ignorance

I believe you bro. He's just paranoid.

But you can't blame him. You ain't new to these here parts. I can see your hand, partner ;)

It's good to be the king.

Again, welcome back!
*big hugs* The_King

You linked my profile... What are you trying to show me? I want to know what you're trying to say.

It sounds like you're accusing me of being right-wing, pretending to be liberal. (I think) So... I'm confused?

How can I slip if am not an alt of *checks notes* amusing_myself?

Still waiting on how to prove/disprove that I am/am not an alt.

If you keep attempting to gaslight me without method to prove/disprove I will have to block you as I have better things to talk about than be bogged down with this local conspiracy theory.

"Here's the problem with your lie, troll... I responded to your alt. Which means THAT ACCOUNT would've received 'a notification to reply' (not your "Oldwhitemanbad" account)."
>>Or, maybe I jumped into the middle of the conversation with something to say?

"Given how quickly you responded, it isn't plausible that you just happen to come across it."
>> Sure, anything is possible. Just like you could be Timber. But you don't see me making that accusation based on conjecture.

"Nor would any normal user keep defending this guy again and AGAIN like you have been doing considering he just joined here today. The fact that you couldn't resist in your other post to compliment "how awesome" his point is just plain lame."
>> So we're on the same page, whose post are we talking about exactly?

"It is laughable for you to suggest that "amusing_myself" isn't your alt or NOT connected to you somehow."
>> It could be your actual alt account and this is your main account and you have some sort of vendetta against me that you never brought to my attention to settle.

How would you suggest proving that these two accounts are the same, beyond coincidence? How would you suggest proving that they aren't?

Except, Zaklog lied when he said Democrats denounced the riots only after having months of them.

No he didn’t and I said it too

That statement is a lie.

No it’s not you are the liar. Let’s see a denouncement. Not just a statement I don’t support violence let’s see a call for it to stop.

You have been fact checked:
"...There is no place for violence. No place for looting or destruction of property, or destroying of churches, or destroying businesses..." - Joe Biden. June 2nd.

"The senseless violence of looting and burning and destruction of property. I want to make it absolutely clear, let me be very clear about all of this: rioting is not protesting. Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It's lawlessness. Plain and simple. And those who do it, should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change." (His whole speech is centered around this topic.) - Joe Biden. August 31st, 2021

I was kinda surprised by Trump today: "To those who engaged in the acts of violence and destruction, you do not represent our country. To those who broke the law, you will pay." Oof, that's gotta burn for those who thought those riots were a good idea.

In other words, your fee-fees got hurt by the facts.

You lied when you said Democrats never denounced the riots until after months of having them.

They cheered them on. Kamela, Pelosi, Maxine Waters. They cheered them on. They raised bail money for them. That is the exact opposite of denouncing them. Go to Hell along with your lies.

First: Proof. You need it.
Second: Trump has been pardoning murderers. So I'm not sure why this would bother you in the first place, if were true.

"protests are supposed to make people uncomfortable" -AOC

"Where does it say protests have to be peaceful?" -Cuomo

Just a few examples

I don't see them inciting violence or encouraging it.

Again, "Where does it say protests have to be peaceful?" Anyone with a brain can agree this was encouraging violence.

But did he say that they should be violent? You could twist the phrase "Where does it say protests have to be violent?" as if he were researching this to confirm that they should be violent.

Also, violence is not only physical, but yelling can also be considered violence.

Even if we exclude everything I just said,
Trump knew he had an angry populace with him who were very dissatisfied with what was happening. What's that? He didn't know? Then he's an idiot that can't read people. What's that? He wrote the art of the deal which requires you to be able to read people? What's that? After three speeches of rallying his base and stoking their anger over three speeches he said "Let's walk to the capital?"

So, try again?

By your logic, anyone who organizes a protest is calling for violence. So, try again?

One does not need to be violent to be unpeaceful.

Yelling and screaming is considered violent.

It is. Good point.

Your failure at comparing apple and oranges is humorous. Of course simply organizing a protest is not calling for violence

But once you are attending and speaking at a rally your speech creates a reaction. I would hope you are old and wise enough to know this and are simply ignoring it.

Which is probably the case. Any claims you make regarding the violence of Democrats can simply excused using your own logic.

Your are selectively outraged nothing more nothing less when it comes to when violence is acceptable

Bro, I'm not selectively outraged. I condemn the riots throughout the summer, an i condemn the capitol riots just as much. Now listen to yourself. Speaking at a protest is calling for violence!?

There is actual precedent for what the President did and the manner in which he executed his speeches. He was stoking the mob to get angry. He was talking on subjects which have yet not been proven in court and claiming them to be factual. Using this subject, he played to what people were angry about and kept talking about how their government was stealing from them without any proof of this being the case - only conjecture which is countered by the rulings of the courts, the supreme court, the senate and the house, the DOJ, the recounts and the initial vote itself.
You want to talk about voter fraud? Fine. But you shouldn't talk about it as factual while getting people revved up. This has happened many times in mobs past. Each time, there were court hearings.

Just watch Netflix's "The Chicago Seven." A good example. Or that movie about Jimmy Hoffa with Danny DeVito and Jack Nicholson.

Want to brainwash people and incite them into violent Mobs? Give them someone to blame for their problems then just keep repeating the lies. Eventually BOOM!!

Humans have a strange need to be told how to think and who to hate.

Trump supporters don't even know he's been using that "fake news" bs since at least the late 80's early 90's

Anything he does not like? It's fake news

Case in point:
Capitol Hill police didn't think that Trump Rally would turn violent because of the narrative he pedaled about BLM protests. He never talked about the violence caused by his side. Just the other.

More purposeful dishonesty YES!!!!! Depending on your saying at a protest or rally the end result can be violence.

It's a very easy and factual concept to understand. You are simply trying to ignore or pretend it away.

Clearly you are not someone who can or wants to be reasonable. You want to project the sins of your fellow Trump supporters onto others.

And no I don't think you do. And the reason is also very simple. If you condemn The DC riots which were by legal statute the crime of sedition and treason you would not even invoke the summer riots.

But you are in your sad attempt at deflection and projection. What took place on 1/6/21 will always be more sever due to the motives and agenda of what took place.

I agree that it was worse, but the fact of the matter is that Trump didn't explicitly call for the violence, for breaking into the capitol, or for disrupting the government's process. If you can't find logic in that then I'm done talking to you.

My statement was clear you do not have to explicitly say particular words in order to incite a riot.

There is something called "beating around the bush" or "reading between the lines"

Not all Trump supporters present took his word play to heart but those that did committed sedition and treason on his behalf.

Trump was not the only one there inciting them. Dementia Rudy factually stated:Lets have trial by combat.

Also you have to include the crap some Republican Congressmen and Senators were saying which also incited them to violence.

Lynn Wood: Ready the firing squads Pence goes first.

That was a direct threat against the Vice president. He has not been arrested yet and neither have the others. Only a handful of people literally to stupid to grasp that got used by Trump

I believe Trump should fire them, and they should serve jail time. But Trump himself didn't call for violence. The bernie quote was along the lines of "Republicans aren't humans," and after he said that, one of his supporters went after a small group of Republicans, shooting but not killing a senator. Was bernie guilty? No, since he didn't call for the violence.

Now, for democrats that called for violence but aren't sitting in prison. I hope you can denounce them as I have denounced Rudy Guiliani and Lynn wood. Maxine waters said, "If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere."

Hillary Clinton, in 2016, said, “You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about.”

Again words matter and Trump was clearly beating around the bush and using suggestive speech.

He also has not fired Rudy and apparently intended to hire him in the event there was a Senate trial. So it's clear he approved of Rudy's BS.

Btw The NY Bar is now looking at disbarment for him

It's good if they're getting rid of him. Also, when did trump say that? I haven't heard of that yet.

Yes, and i Believe wood and Guiliani were calling for violence and should be arrested. But not Trump. Was bernie arrested after some of his followers tried to kill republican congressmen?

Stop you know damn well they were speaking on Trumps behalf and I have yet to hear or see Trump fire or denounce Rudy and the other guy

Your false comparison about Bernie is not relevant but I will say I have no direct knowledge of that event.

But I do know about the crazy Anti American Trumpers who tried to kidnap the Michigan Governor most likely intending to kill her. I'll look up that Bernie reference

Trump didn’t write anything. He had a literate person write it (Tony Schwartz) and he put his name on it.

I know that, but they don't. They insist Trump wrote it.

I’ll give you the AOC quote but Cuomo’s quote is ambiguous. The MLK sit-ins certainly were not described as peaceful at the time but that doesn’t mean they weren’t. So, I would need to understand the context of the Cuomo quote. Other than that, no. I don’t think BLM was purposely inciting violence but they do tend to have riled up leaders and members that will on occasion say and do stupid shit. What group doesn’t? Still a it’s human nature to unfortunately shine the spot line on the worst and assume the rest.

I mean, where DOES, it say that it has to be peaceful. And Cuomo had said Fox took that out of context which they did.

THE FIRST AMENDMENT!!

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion ... or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

To PEACEABLY assemble.

And of it's okay for it to be violent, what's your problem with what happened last week? Where on earth is your logic!?

But if nobody notices protesting what else is there to do? Just that black people like me should just let the 12 kill us?

An occasional killing by a cop, many of which are in self defense (not all, I know) is not enough reason to refund the police. Do you know just how many black people are killed in homicides by cops every year?

She's responding to more conservative democrats who think "defund the police" sloganeering cost the democrats house seats. I don't think it had anything to do with rioting.

She said it in December 2nd. I don’t remember any large riot that occurred on December 2nd.

Whoops my bad.

AOC is right. Making people uncomfortable makes them think.

Cuomo may have meant protests don’t have to be without anger. Yelling, marching and generally not being happy aren’t rioting or peaceful.

Neither said anything about illegal actions like looting or rioting being acceptable.