Lol.

yeah, they do the same thing for every president when they're elected...

True, but not really what I meant.
The media are leaning HEAVILY toward accepting that
Biden will be president, mostly ignoring or downplaying
the election dispute & the significant amount of irregularities
that took place during the election in several states.

So they're pretty much oversaturating Biden to the point that we all forget about the controversy of cheating and such?

"A lie told once remains a lie, but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth."
-Joseph Goebbels

Like the system being rigged if Trump loses was a lie from the start.

Who said "If Trump loses, the system is rigged?"

Trump.

Think they're just reporting the facts and waiting for these claims to be substantiated.

And now another surge in pushing the covid fear-mongering. Ahhhh cases are up up up. Look over here! Trump isn't doing anything about this epidemic of increased testing!

Because those are the actual facts being reported. The media cannot speculate on things they do not have. And according to the individual states and the amount of votes being counted, it is a clear electoral victory of Joe Biden.

There is no dispute other than by Trump and his cronies... and his supporters who were either paid, or simply regurgitating what they saw or think they saw.

The election dispute that started all the way back in April. So, once again we have to ask ourselves.

Is Trump stupid or incompetent?

Did he foresee the election fraud all the way back in April and did nothing, or did he think that excuse was going to fly in case he lost?

Stupid if the former, incompetent if the latter.

So, let me get this straight... some trolls in Russia could "hack" our elections with "misleading" Facebook ads and meme, calling into the question the legitimacy of the Trump administration so much so we had to spend four years investigating it (primarily based on a falsified and politically planted dossier by the opposition party), BUT in less than a week the media already knows, and has determined conclusively, there has been no mass voter fraud or interference by Democrats, the Media, OR Big Tech which has all been locked in an ideological battle with the candidate in question for the last four years?

WOW. You guys are good! If only you could have waved your magic wand at the Russia problem we could have resolved that one in a couple of weeks too.

Trump's legitimacy was never in question so your overall logic fails. Trump was not investigated for voter fraud but for colluding with Russia to influence the election. It would be like if suddenly, I dunno... a bunch of British Imgflipers, paid for by Trump, were told to run dozens of dummy accounts on the site. Not only this but that Trump orchestrated with Wikileaks when Hillary's emails would be released days before the election so that James Comey would either A. Re-open the investigation and make look Hillary look suspicious or B. Not re-open the investigation and make the FBI look suspicious.

If he had colluded, Mike Pence would've been made President. It is a simple as that. The investigation spent three years. And right after Trump was otherwise exonerated for the Russia probe by the deputy general, and Nancy Pelosi promised to not impeach the President based on the evidence Russian probe in order to put it behind them. The Ukraine scandal picked up the torch and ran with it days latter. That's when that investigation happened and impeachment commenced. As was predicted, and why Pelosi didn't bother moving forward with the Russian probe, the House and Senate Republicans refused to acknowledge the President's wrongdoings.

If by the media then you mean the state officials both by the appointed election commissions, the state governments, and state officials; as well as our own Department of Homeland Security; then yes.

The Russia probe actually could've been gone in the first few months of Trump's presidency had he not fired Comey and thus required the bringing in of a special council. It also would've gone smoother for him if his Attorney General, who at the time was Jeff Session, had realized whom he was working for wasn't interested in playing things by the book, and recused himself. Instead, he could've appointed himself, much as Barr might've done, and took over the investigation himself and concluded it in time for Christmas 2017. Swept under the rug, but otherwise no scandal.

Yes, the Trump administration has proven itself quite incompetent.

In fact, one of the reasons why there is such a furious backlash of officials and experts claiming no widespread voter fraud is apparently due to Trump himself. Who prepared these people by warning that such fraud may occur and added extra security. That security has proven quite useful to making sure that Trump cannot overturn the results.

Funny how Biden is represented by a vegetable...

I must be a healthy person then.

How nice for you.

good thing broccoli is healthy

It is.

so we agree that the media is giving a healthy option with biden to the american people

No. On that we disagree.

but you chose to use something healthy to represent joe biden. There are other templates but you chose this one

You miss the point.
The guy is clearly not enjoying the broccoli. He's being force fed.
That is the metaphor. Whether you think Joe Biden is good or not, you
can't deny that the media is force feeding us the not entirely true story
that Biden has won the election, will be the president, and we
must all just accept it. When I hear that, I make the face of the guy
eating the broccoli.
The election is in dispute. The electoral college has not voted.
He is not the president elect yet.

the thing is, the person in the picture knew he needed the broccoli. It was his new years resolution to eat more vegetables.

Don't bring the side that actually voted Biden, unlike you Trumpies we support someone who is more competent

the hell u talkin bout.

I'm sayin Trump is a big dumbass who couldn't even understand the covid-19 virus situation.

According to election officials in every state, there is no evidence of voter fraud.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/525433-election-officials-in-states-across-the-country-report-no-evidence-of

Many who worked for those officials swear otherwise.

Hearsay isn’t evidence.

Testimony of a person who witnessed an offense isn't hearsay.

People reporting activity that they personally deem suspicious isn’t enough evidence to support that fraud occurred.

What about people reporting activity that they themselves took part in?

Again, if the activities were procedures already agreed upon by the local election officials then it’s still not evidence fraud occurred.

If the procedures reported are not what happened, then there may be a case. It has happened before. But there is a good enough counter-argument that such procedures were modified on the day of due to the higher than normal voter turn out.

The worst that may happen is a handful of people are fined or possibly jailed. Trump is still unlikely to remain President.

Dude, whatever evidence you present they'll just say "nu uh, not real".

At this time it is too early to speculate. And what evidence that has been made public and presented should be taken as a grain of salt. I said as much about Trump during the Russia investigation.

The problem with this particular situation is there is a ticking clock. If the President's lawyers cannot prove fraud, prove that the fraud was significant enough to effect the vote, and fail to do so by the time the Electors meet, then it's too late.

To simplify the people who are skeptical's response as simply "nu uh, not real," is a gross generalization at best.

What I'm getting from this is that you're at least willing to be open minded.
With that said the only way you would be convinced is if every fraudulent vote was found, everyone involved testified and Joe Biden himself saying "Yeah we committed massive voter fraud, what are you gonna do about it."
But even if that were to happen I find it hard to believe you would actually concede and be ok with Not Trump not being president.

No, I'm basically saying that Trump would have to prove that hundreds of thousands of votes were fraudulent in order to change the election results in his favor. At this time, Biden is leading with a combined 263,847 lead in the five individual contested states that Trump has filed lawsuits.

If these numbers were in the lower thousands or hundreds, then maybe Trump might have had a chance. But each state is above ten thousand or more, with less than that left remainder to count. So, again, even if he proves widescale fraud occurred, it won't be enough to effect the election.

If... if, this were one or two states being contested by a margin of a few hundred votes or less; Trump might've had a chance. I bet Trump's team of lawyers will focus specifically on lawsuits in Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona. He'll have to find over 78,000 votes or an average of at least 26,000 votes in each state to flip them. He may very well get Pennsylvania overturned with 400,000 some odd contested mail-in ballots, but he'd also need Georgia and Arizona as well. And even that is a tall order. They'll have to get there before December 14th or else Biden will officially take those electorates.

It is far more likely that Trump will concede before proving enough fraud to flip three states or more.

What is far more likely to happen is this will become the thing Republicans investigate throughout Biden's first years in office. And if they can find any evidence that he was involved in the conspiracy, then they may very well impeach.

And even if they do that, Kamala Harris will become the 47th President of the United States. That is Trump and his supporters best case scenario.

But hey, there is still plenty to celebrate if you're a Trump Supporter. The fact that Trump got a term at all is still an achievement, the high voter turnout this year is also an achievement (unless we spike higher in Covid cases as a result), and the Republicans successfully negated Merrick Garland's nomination and replaced Ruth Bader Ginsburg with Amy Coney Barrett.

Those are no small feat, or short straws.

And if the Republicans can find a candidate just as exciting as Trump (and hopefully less extreme) it is likely Biden (or Harris) will only serve one term.

https://youtu.be/WGRnhBmHYN0

So we can agree that the "irregularities" reported merit investigation? Fine.
If no fraud is proven, then I guess that'll be the end of it. Maybe I could have
put "alleged voter fraud" in my tag instead, but that was more to incite people
to check out the story for themselves and decide if there is anything to the claims
of the Trump campaign. It could easily be said that the mainstream media is
doing the complete opposite. They're taking away the people's right to examine
the facts and form their own opinion.

Lets put in a response to that sneaky reply of Biden admitting voter fraud when he was talking about combatting the fraud that Trump says will happen way before November 3rd.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-admit-voter-fraud/

What should be more telling is that Trump in 2016 called the election rigged, and did the same in 2020 with the out of "unless I win."

The fact of the matter is, he is acting like a Republican cannot win the popular vote, nor the Electorate without doing what he's done and this is simply not so. The only reason Trump and W. Bush won was because of how close the election was between their respective opponents. I believe it was even closer between Gore and W. Bush. Reagan won his first term election with over 50% of the vote and in his second term, 58.8%. While Obama only won 52%.

If Trump had to mimic anyone, it was not Obama, Clinton, Reagan, or Andrew Jackson, certainly not Andrew Jackson, definitely not Andrew Jackson, what moron would want to mimic Andrew Jackson? Just because Andrew Jackson is on ten-dollar bill is not a good reason to.. heh hem... He should've looked to W. Bush more and maybe he wouldn't have ended up like Bush Sr. Bush lost the popular vote in 2000 and while his electoral vote was contested, it was ultimately won.

Bush did not spend his next four years complaining or whining, nor did he apologize and compromise. And while people looked back on him during the Obama era (Republicans and Democrats alike) as a moron; I feel history will end up being much kinder within the context of the Republican president that followed him.

The fact of the matter is, your meme has nothing to do with voter fraud.

The allegations of voter fraud will still not effect President Trump's chancing of securing a second term.

It also matters not what people think, especially if they are in direct opposition to facts.

The facts are there are people who are claiming voter fraud and state officials have claimed those accusations to be baseless. And should those accusations muster some evidence that can be disputed in court, it is still more likely that Trump will concede, before the election is overturned in his favor.

Come on man! I know Biden wasn't actually admitting voter fraud.
I didn't know the context of the comment, I just figured it was an unfortunate
slip of the tongue, but jeez, give me a lil credit, I was just being smartass.

As far as your other comments,
1.My meme doesn't have anything to do with voter fraud...so what?
Maybe not directly, but still connected. I can tag whatever I want.

2. Baseless accusations? Psshh, hardly! We're not just talking about
hearsay. Many of the people who helped carry out the fraud have made sworn statements in legal affidavits. In addition to the thousands of instances of
vote machine "malfunctioning" & switching votes. We'll see what the
investigation turns up. Trump will not concede.

As long as your guy wins, I guess it doesn't matter how, right?
Stop eating the broccoli, Doc.

Broccoli is actually good for you. But there are no pictures of Kevin drinking Kool-Aid so I guess that wouldn't really work. And to be fair, Kool-Aid looks like something Kevin would drink.

At the time of this writing, I've only found a single individual to your claim of "many" and in response to her story, the local Republican representative in charge of her district said he's "not heard from any clerks in my district that there were irregularities in the process."

https://www.newsweek.com/detroit-elections-worker-alleges-she-directly-observed-voters-coached-pick-joe-biden-1546091

The voting machine malfunction you're speaking of was caught two days after November 3rd in the early hours of the day. It was caught due to the redundancies and protections to make sure these votes are accurately counted. They even sent out a notice to the other districts that were using the same technology to closely examine their results.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/following-repair-technical-glitch-michigan-county-flips-back-trump

And of course Trump will not concede. That's my point of how unlikely the election is to be overturned in his favor.

And Biden is not my guy any more than Trump is "your guy" That is something I've been trying to explain to Republicans for almost five years ever since Trump announced he was running. While, I did vote for Biden... I fully admit that my vote was more against Trump than for Biden.

I would be very happy to see Biden lose in 2024. Hopefully to a more experienced candidate rather than another showboating blowhard like Trump.

I guess we're seeing things through different lenses, bro.
I can tell you this though, I don't think the DOJ would be investigating baseless claims.
If it turns out well for Biden, so be it.
If not, I admit I'll sleep a little better. I realize Trump is a showboating blowhard, that's not
the worst thing in the world to be...and I'm not just subscribing to the G.E. Trump cult of
personality. It comes down to this: The policies that Trump claims to support, & for the most
part, as far as I can tell, so far- has appeared to support- I also support... for the good of
our country and my family. That's it. Period. My dream is to live in the country, far away
from Trump, Biden, all politics, and just run a farm & grow stuff and be left alone.
Trump isn't perfect, not a God Emperor... he's just a guy. He's a rich capitalist who (again, as far as I can tell) supports the interest of Americans first. Capitalism isn't perfect, but the way I see it, the little guy has a better chance to make something
for himself than in other systems.
It's weird that our election has come down to a choice between capitalism & socialism, but here we are.
If you want to argue the virtues of socialism vs. capitalism, we'll have to do it another day
my friend. I'm not shutting down the conversation; I'd like to hear your response, but I have a ton of work to get done today.

The DOJ is currently run by a partisan hack that claimed there was no evidence of collusion in the Mueller report. Barr's conclusions were in direct odds with Robert Mueller's own; as Mueller himself testified.

It was never about socialism vs. capitalism. Capitalism isn't going anywhere, the Second Amendment isn't going anywhere, the First Amendment isn't going anywhere.

It was about protecting Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Public Education, and the American people from a virus versus the elimination of Abortion, the elimination of the ACA, a second chance to eliminate DACA with another Republican Supreme Court nominee, the erosion of our faith in Democracy, and allowing corporations to use Religious Freedoms as a shield from basic Civil Rights to all Americans.

You underestimate Trump's damage to our country and government. We were divided before he took office and was simply a symptom. Now, go look at one of the titles of the Politics' front page. One actually says "Never give in; Never unify with them" Trump is more than just a symptom now. He is a unifying figure for the radicals on the right, and so long as he remains at odds with everyone who disagrees with him (which is still the majority thank God); which will now be lot more people since he's again making a grab for the dictator's handbook, he's basically destroyed any chance this country will ever become better. If we had elected the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reily, Sean Hannity, Jeannie Shapiro, Alex Jones, or Steve Bannon - it would've been no different. These people, Trump included, could care less about this country. They just want that soundbite and want their 15 minutes so that they can cash out just before we default on our loans to China. That has always been their endgame.

I'll personally sleep better when Trump is removed from office. I could care less who is President after him so long as they do not continue to use Trump's first term as a handbook for how to run this country.

https://twitter.com/SalHernandez/status/1324461968753750017

This was a member of the Arizona Republican Party begging for people to give them proof of voter fraud minutes before holding a press conference to announce that there were thousands of people who were "concerned about voter fraud"

It seems to me, that if there were people who were concerned or had evidence of fraud, then they would report it to the local authorities and the Republican Party would start there rather than a random crowd where they were holding their press conference.

https://bridgeurl.com/election-fraud

At this point it still speculation.