It's more inclusive, caring and compassionate.

We say black lives matter because all lives do matter, but black people aren't being treated that way. All lives matter was created by white people that felt uncomfortable that there was a movement against racism, so they created a movement for their own. Saying save the whales doesn't mean screw the fish, marching for womens' rights doesn't mean men are bad, etc. Don't be mad you didn't get a movement, be thankful you don't need one.

If you are referring to the women's march on Washington DC back in 2016, that was a joke. The leader, Linda Sarsour, is a big time advocate of Sharia Law. Islamic women are beaten, abused, tortured, and executed under Sharia law. It is disgraceful that a movement for women's rights chose such a person to be their leader.

Another way to end racism would be by creating a unified mindset. Calling Americans Americans would be a start. It would be hard for groups to say the other has it better when everyone is American instead of pale or brown. But politicians care more about their votes gained by virtue signaling than they do national unity. So they will continue to divide Americans into minorities and communities based on skin color. When I see a brown person, I don't see a minority, I see an American. When I see a pale person, I don't see a majority, I see an American.

And don't misunderstand me, I am not saying blm is making things worse, I am blaming the politicians who piggy back on the people's desire for justice and equality.

"but black people aren't being treated that way"

Daniel Shaver disagrees.

Maybe that's what you meant, but that's not what you said. BLM excludes others in its name, and by doing that perpetuates the victim-villain dynamic in race relations. While there may well be Caucasians (for lack of a better term) who feel uncomfortable about an anti-racism movement, All Lives Matter is an attempt to be more inclusive.

Womens' rights marches often become man-bashing events. Focusing on one side of a dichotomy often creates negative sentiment for the other side.

Saying I do not support the BLM movement does not mean that I do not support equal treatment of African Americans under the law.

All lives matter has done nothing against racism. it tries to hide the fact that racism exists to this day. If ALM came before BLM, it would be different. But ALM is just their protest to our protest.

And did an all lives matter proponent tell you that or did you tell yourself that because it is easier than listening to what they have to say? And what has BLM actually done to fix racism? Not a thing.

BLM has organized protests against police brutality, and has helped get the officers that murdered George Floyd charged, has helped recognized juneteenth as a national holiday, and more.

The officers that killed floyd were already charged an arrested BEFORE the mass riots and protests started. Juneteenth has ALWAYS been a recognized holiday even if not a national one( I would know considering it is my birthday ), and "more" isn't an answer

That's not true. You are deliberately confusing cause and effect.

If all lives ACTUALLY mattered Black Lives Matter wouldn't exist.

Either they all do, or none do.

You make some excellent points, and articulate them perfectly. One of the key faults (or tools?) of the BLM name, is that it encompasses both the concept and the title of a Marxist group.

The very use of the chant "Black Lives Matter" invites problems if one expresses a protest against the GROUP that has titled itself with that slogan.. (just mentioning one issue that surrounds it)

... and ... we jump right back up into your salient comments, wash, rinse, repeat as it all folds in and over on itself like a Mobius strip!

Thank you. The Mobius strip is an excellent image to use as a metaphor for race relations in this country. I wish I had thought of it!

Make a meme! I'd be honored..

Well said!

What is all the money BLM gets used for? You know, the millions of dollars.

Raising one group of lives above others does not achieve equality. You can’t fight racism with racism. Asian lives, latino lives? No ethnic group has the same struggles? No other race is killed by police? Police brutality affects all races. Thats what “black lives” matter infers. Add the word “too” to the end and you have the same statement with a clearer description according to you definition, without elevating above the rest.

BLM doesn't put one race above others. Black males are killed by the police more than any other ethnicity. It's not saying only black people are being shot by the police, but they are the majority of victims of police brutality.

Wrong, whites are the majority of the victims of police brutality. Saying black lives matter is exclusionary and promotes one race above others. You will never achieve equality that way.

whites aren't the main victims of police brutality. They never were in america. Saying black lives matter doesn't mean other races don't matter. ALM doesn't try equality, it just denies that people aren't equal.

That’s absurd, saying black lives matter is non inclusive therefore it elevates the one above the others. Statistically more whites are victims of police brutality period. Those are facts. Likely more unarmed white people were killed than blacks in any year you can name. This is reasonable based on population percentages. Your assumption that blacks are singled out exclusively is incorrect. Police brutality is visited more often on socio economic status than race. Lower income people and neighborhoods suffer from more crime and receive more police attention and interaction. Blacks represent a larger percentage of the lower income and therefore are disproportionately represented in the police statistics. It’s more about economic status than race.

Yes actually they are. Police shoot far more whites every year than they shoot blacks. The problem is that blacks are a higher percentage than their percent of the overall population. Bit in raw numbers whites die more to cops than blacks. ALM is literally saying everyone is equal and all lives matter the same. YOU are putting meaning to it that the people behind it have nothing to do with. If I said that you were a racist dog without any evidence to back it up, that doesnt make it true. Same applies to your accusations against alm

Right- like more white people are on welfare and food stamps.

That’s true as well, based on overall numbers whites lead in incarceration as well. Its where you get to prercentage of population that the numbers are disproportionate.

Sure. Not sure what relevance that has to this conversation, but yes, that is true.

So......why aren't there protests against police brutality against whites?

Likely no media attention, maybe no one but their families cared. You wouldn’t, only if they were black right. Facts are facts more white people both armed and unarmed are killed by police. Police brutality affects Latinos as well or are we counting them as Caucasian’s today? You guys switch that around however best it fits your narrative.

You get pissed at people like me who put in a second opinion, when people say black lives matter their universal meaning is that everyone matters, that every soul deserves to exist. Are you that blind that you have to argue? To assume people mean that black lives are the only ones that matter? You are literally saying the same thing I'm saying that all lives are saying but you're stuck on the message that every matters.

Why are you stuck on BLM. Why can’t we all agree police brutality is an issue that needs to be addressed whether it is against whites, blacks, Latinos, Asians and native Americans. Not Being shot by the police when it can be avoided is the ideal outcome and skin color doesn’t matter. The exact same incidents occur where white, latino, Asian people are killed by police. So white people, Latinos and Asians don’t count as much as black people? The narrative is wrong you are the divisive one by demanding compliance to you exclusionary and racist statement. This is because you want to sell the systemic racism narrative. Yet the system is run by leftists in the most notorious examples. Minneapolis is damn near a communist commune of leftists. They have been in charge of that system for decades. If the system is racist. They are all racists.

I dunno, why haven't you protested it?

I don't know the exact statistics.

I agree with the BLM movement (at least conceptually) but I think you're wrong about that. They might be killed more relative to their percent of the population but I do not think black people are killed by police more than white people as far as raw numbers.

Agreed. All lives matter includes black children and babies murdered by thugs in the streets, a prevalent social disgrace that the BLM organization conveniently ignores.

Yeah But when people say Black Lives matter overall they mean all lives matter, no matter your ethnicity, race, and skin color. Anyways I'ma hit you with an upvote

So they don’t say what they mean?

No Actually they mean more than what they mean.

Ok because speaking plainly would be wrong?

Bro why do you have to disagree with everything I have to say, the overall message "Black Lives matter" Implies the fact that other lives matter too. Sure they could say it plainly but the statement Black Lives matter can do the same thing.

Yes because what you say is wrong. It’s not my fault you are not correct. If I’m saying my p**is is big doesn’t mean all p**is’s are big. If I say my p**is matters it doesn’t confer from that simple statement that all p**is’s matter. That should probably say penii.

You are correct with >"p**ises"<, I believe. Or possibly >"penes"<, though I have never heard this in actual usage. The English word comes from Latin, but does not use Latin endings. Latin has several words for the male part, though none to my knowledge are similar to p**is, unless you consider phallus. Penii uses a masculine plural - kind of redundant!

Then why the outrage whenever someone says all lives matter? If they mean the exact same thing the groups shouldn't be at odds with each other, right?

exactly

That's what I'm saying

Right

Lives matter based on whether they respect the lives of others

I think lives matter period.

So I could walk into a group of such people and kill them all, and you wouldn't mind?

Their life is worth less than shit but you have to respect the judicial system

If they deserve justice that must mean their lives matter.

That is not what I think, but it is what some laws say of certain sites

What I think is justice must be proportional to the damage they have done and effective to minimize the possibility that others will do the same.

Of course crimes must have penalties. But that doesn't mean a person's life is worthless.