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The KKK is as relevant today as are rotary telephones and 8-track casettes.
Whereas BLM and ANTIFA are as relevant as Islamist Terrorists

https://youtu.be/sb9_qGOa9Go

So white supremacy isn’t important yet a black man was just killed by white police

And a white man was just killed by a black police officer so black supremacy isn't important. No, both positions are stupid statements. Nobody likes any supremacists but the reality is that BLM isn't about fighting any racism that exists it's about forwarding Marxism under the cover of fighting racism.

Plus there’s still no proof that any of this was racially motivated.

So white supremacy isn’t rlly a thing yet a black man was choked to death by a WHITE police man

orangemanbad already dismantled that cretinous argument.

No, he didn't. There is no history of white people being oppressed by poc in this country, the history of poc being oppressed by white has had lasting consequences. Just because you don't experience the result of these consequences doesn't mean they don't exist.

So no white person has ever experienced oppression in the US?

Did you notice that I used the plural and not the singular?

Does it really matter? You are claiming that the caucasian race has never experienced any form of oppression in the US, are you not?

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"But Caucasians, as first identified by German anthropologist Johann Friedrich Blumenbach and as some still think of the group today, lay claim to a lot more real estate than that.

In 1795, in the third edition of his book titled "De generis humani varietate nativa" (or, "On the natural varieties of mankind"), Blumenbach, building on work by Swedish scientist Carolus Linnaeus and others, used the word "Caucasian" to describe one of his five races of man. He determined each through scientific methods like the measuring of skulls, and tied each to distinct geographic regions. Caucasians were, as Blumenbach presented them, the "white" race and included people not only from the Caucasus region, but also those from Europe, northern India and parts of Northern Africa.

(The other groups Blumenbach identified, tied loosely to skin color, were Malaysian, Ethiopian, [Native] American and Mongolian. Years after Blumenbach, scientists found that the earliest humans didn't come from the Caucasus but from Africa, in modern day Ethiopia.)

Though Blumenbach found that the "many varieties of man as are at present known to [be] one and the same species," his work nonetheless was seen as giving scientific credence to the concept of biological race. Over the years, that notion has been abused in order to separate groups of people (often by skin color) and to declare, through some bastardization of science, the superiority of one race over others."

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"Classifying humans into races, whatever Blumenbach's intentions, continues today. The term "Caucasian" is still rolled out occasionally, and not only on bad TV police dramas.

"I was just at a conference here in Minnesota where a researcher from South Africa kept referring to herself and others in her country as 'Caucasians,'" Graves says. "I think it is very, very much a white supremacist, racist ideology.

"I think it has to do with Eurocentric racial ideology. People wish to hold onto the special designation exemplified by this term, 'Caucasian.'"

Beyond Caucasian, the U.S. Census Bureau has its own definition of race — "a person's self-identification with one or more social groups" — and asks respondents to choose from its own categories: "White, Black or African American, Asian, American Indian and Alaska Native, Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander." The Census allows those surveyed to choose "some other race," too.

The Census Bureau's definition of race — that it's self-identified, and based on social groups — is different than Blumenbach's in that it is notably unscientific. And it supports the now widely accepted finding that race is not something that is supported by science. Genetically speaking, someone can't be of the White Race, or the Caucasian race. People aren't of the Mongolian race. They are of one species. According to the National Human Genome Research Institute, humans are 99.9 percent identical in genetic makeup.

Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at Canada's Brock University, explains in Psychology Today:

Scientists generally do not recognize races as biologically meaningful. Yet scientists, including me, discuss race and describe the racial composition of our samples," he wrote. "To be clear, I am not advocating that we ignore race. In fact, there are many dangers in ignoring race as a social topic. Race is 'real'. But race is socially real, not biologically real."-HowStuffWorks.com

Calm m8 down its just a word. I meant nothing by it. And quit dancing around the question at hand.

I'm totally calm, I was just sharing info on the word Caucasian, there are a lot of interesting points. I'm not dancing around the question, I'm not done responding. ;)

Whatever you want to tell yourself.

The article being interesting is obviously subjective, I suppose if someone isn't able to understand it, it might seem quite boring.

Omg nothing more useful than c&p.... now please continue with your analysis of this excerpt which has been plagerized illegally and falsly attributed to a tv program where it was most likely misused initially. I'll wait.

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Caucasian? Really? What does that even mean anymore? What did it ever mean?

It's easy, of course, to equate "Caucasian" with "white." But that one word — Caucasian — touches on issues much deeper than skin color. It kindles questions of race and the very origin of humans. It even exposes the topic of whether race exists outside our curious, sometimes devious minds.

Spoiler: In humans, no genetic basis exists to separate our species into races. So if you're thinking the "Caucasian race," think again.

What Is a Caucasian?
"There's no scientific justification for use of that term," Joseph Graves, a professor of nanoengineering and the interim dean at the Joint School of Nanoscience and Nanoengineering in Greensboro, North Carolina, says. "[Caucasian] is actually a 19th-century anthropological idea that was based around a false conception that the origin of the human species was in the Caucasus Mountains."

The Caucasus Mountains run from the Black Sea (to the west) to the Caspian Sea (on the East) in an area that is considered by many as the crossroads between Eastern Europe and Western Asia. The ranges — two of them, the Greater and Lesser — are due east of Italy (across the Mediterranean, much of Eastern Europe and the Black Sea), due north of Iraq (through a few countries) and due west of India (through a few countries and across the Caspian). The southern tip of Russia lies to the north of the Caucasus Mountains. To the immediate south is Georgia, a former Soviet Republic. This is where Caucasians — true Caucasians — call home. People from Georgia, Russia, Azerbaijan and Armenia hail from the area."

Are you pro affirmative action or pro reparations?

I'm saying that that there has been no systemic racism by poc towards white people in American society. The same power imbalance does not exist.

There is definitely systemic racism going on in modern western society. Anti-white racism has become accepted by mainstream news and social media, as well as by popular celebrities, politicians and corporations. Saying "white lives don't matter" on Twitter won't get you censored or shamed; it will get you promoted at your university job, so that you can brainwash students with your extremist racist agenda. Anti-white racism has undeniably gone mainstream. But anti-black racism will easily get one banned on mainstream social media, attacked by the mainstream media, and denounced by politicians and celebrities. It does not even need to be hugely discriminatory towards black people for this to happen. Mass riots that see statues destroyed, buildings burned and people murdered will be defended by the mainstream news, social media, and popular politicians and celebrities. Many people will express support for the extremists behind the violent riots. But if a much smaller riot took place, a riot held by white nationalists, the reaction would be very different. Those who express support for it, or even refuse to denounce it (hence the phrase "white silence is violence") will be censored on social media, attacked by the media, and denounced by popular politicians and celebrities. Christians, men and heterosexuals are also facing similar problems. In addition, only white western countries are forced to be "multicultural", but not non-white nations. And the systemic racism occurring in South Africa is being completely ignored. Celebrated even. However, I still do not deny that discrimination towards black people also exists. But you cannot deny that there is also anti-white racism going on. It is not "reverse discrimination". It is just normal discrimination.

Paragraphs are a thing.

"Saying "white lives don't matter" on Twitter won't get you censored or shamed; it will get you promoted at your university job"

Who got a promotion for saying white lives don't matter?

You are talking about discrimination against poc and white people as though there has been and is no imbalance, isn't wasn't a level playing field historically and it still isn't now.

What you are describing as 'anti-white racism' is a push to level the playing field?

"And the systemic racism occurring in South Africa is being completely ignored. Celebrated even."

It isn't ignored, everybody knows white people started it.

How do you propose we end racism?

"Paragraphs are a thing."

I rarely use them on imgflip.

"Who got a promotion for saying white lives don't matter?"

I'm surprised you haven't heard of this. Get off Facebook and CNN.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/06/25/white-lives-matter-man-fired-white-lives-dont-matter-prof-promoted/

"You are talking about discrimination against poc and white people as though there has been and is no imbalance, isn't wasn't a level playing field historically and it still isn't now."

So discrimination towards white people is justified?

"What you are describing as 'anti-white racism' is a push to level the playing field?"

No. And this is not a competition of who has faced the most discrimination.

"It isn't ignored, everybody knows white people started it."

So discrimination towards white people is justified if it is used as a form of vengeance for what their ancestors did (assuming they were even involved at all)?

"How do you propose we end racism?"

Racism is inevitable, but we could try to let bygones be bygones, stop forcing businesses to hire people based on race, stop indoctrinating children with racial politics, abolish all forms of reparations, be tougher on physically violent racial terrorism (eg. KKK & BLM), allow non-violent racial hate speech, and stop calling some groups "disadvantaged minorities" that require compensation.

I don't look at CNN and I don't use FB for news, it's a data collection site that's annoyingly useful for long-distance socializing.

"So discrimination towards white people is justified?"

I didn't say that, I pointed out why it's happening.

"What you are describing as 'anti-white racism' is a push to level the playing field?"

"No. And this is not a competition of who has faced the most discrimination."

I didn't suggest it was a competition. I see a lot of things that are intended to level the playing field being described as racist, like Affirmative Action. To say that it's racist assumes that everybody is starting equally from a racial pov which just isn't the case.

"Racism is inevitable, but we could try to let bygones be bygones, stop forcing businesses to hire people based on race, stop indoctrinating children with racial politics, abolish all forms of reparations, be tougher on physically violent racial terrorism (eg. KKK & BLM), allow non-violent racial hate speech, and stop calling some groups "disadvantaged minorities" that require compensation."

That sounds kinda defeatist. It's just people's attitudes, nobody is born racist.
Encouraging businesses to hire people from bame communities is not about punishing white people. It's about making sure that people that have been excluded get included.

What you call 'indoctrinating children with racial politics', I call education.
Like I said, nobody is born racist, it's learnt.
Kids that grow up in racist families are being indoctrinated.
If there is no education about equality and diverse backgrounds the yeah, like you said, racism will be inevitable. It just doesn't have to be.

"be tougher on physically violent racial terrorism (eg. KKK & BLM)"

You are equating a group with a long history of violence aimed specifically at poc, a group who have murdered and terrorized countless people with a group that are offering support to the descendants of those terrorized.

Have I missed a news story about BLM lynching white people?

but what made the Klan an especially insidious terrorist organization, and a threat to civil liberties, was that it functioned as the unofficial paramilitary arm of Southern segregationist governments. This allowed its members to kill with impunity and allowed Southern segregationists to eliminate activists by force without alerting federal authorities." Are you suggesting that this is the case for BLM?

"The Ku Klux Klan publishes its "Organization and Principles". Although early supporters of the Klan claimed that it was philosophically a Christian, patriotic organization rather than a white supremacist group, a cursory glance at the Klan's catechism reveals otherwise:

Are you opposed to Negro equality both social and political?
Are you in favor of a white man's government in this country?
Are you in favor of constitutional liberty, and a government of equitable laws instead of a government of violence and oppression?
Are you in favor of maintaining the constitutional rights of the South?
Are you in favor of the reenfranchisement and emancipation of the white men of the South, and the restitution of the Southern people to all their rights, alike proprietary, civil, and political?
Do you believe in the inalienable right of self-preservation of the people against the exercise of arbitrary and unlicensed power?

BLM- The Black Lives Matter Global Network is as powerful as it is because of our membership, our partners, our supporters, our staff, and you. Our continued commitment to liberation for all Black people means we are continuing the work of our ancestors and fighting for our collective freedom because it is our duty.

Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades, allies, and family a culture where each person feels seen, heard, and supported.

We acknowledge, respect, and celebrate differences and commonalities.

We work vigorously for freedom and justice for Black people and, by extension, all people.

We intentionally build and nurture a beloved community that is bonded together through a beautiful struggle that is restorative, not depleting.

We are unapologetically Black in our positioning. In affirming that Black Lives Matter, we need not qualify our position. To love and desire freedom and justice for ourselves is a prerequisite for wanting the same for others.

We see ourselves as part of the global Black family, and we are aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black people who exist in different parts of the world.

We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status, or location.

We make space for transgender brothers and sisters to participate and lead..."

LMFAO Yes! When a non white person pushes racial hate, it's 'joking'.

F**k right off with your racial double standards.

And yeah, I saw the tweets so forget your poisoning the well tactic about the Gateway Pundit.

Who got a promotion for saying white lives don't matter?

SARAH JEONG

"Less than 24 hours after it was announced that Sarah Jeong was to join the editorial board of the New York Times, the reporter was embroiled a row over the nature of racism. OLD TWEETS in which Jeong, a reporter for the tech website the Verge who is of Korean heritage, criticized and made jokes about white people were resurfaced on a rightwing blog run by Jim Hoft. published Jeong’s tweets on the Gateway Pundit, a far-right blog that often publishes entirely false stories that bolster the Trump administration.

The Times HAS DECIDED TO ALLOW Jeong to stay in the role but in a statement said that it does not condone her language, saying it was not acceptable at the Times.

Our statement in response to criticism of the hiring of Sarah Jeong. pic.twitter.com/WryIgbaoqg

— NYTimes Communications (@NYTimesPR) August 2, 2018
Jeong posted her own statement in which she screengrabbed some of the racist abuse she had received on Twitter and explained that she was “mimicking the language of her harassers” and the tweets were “intended as satire”. But she also says she deeply regrets the language she used."

This is not someone being promoted for discriminating against white people.

"I don't look at CNN and I don't use FB for news, it's a data collection site that's annoyingly useful for long-distance socializing."

Good.

"I didn't say that, I pointed out why it's happening."

So you don't support it?

"To say that it's racist assumes that everybody is starting equally from a racial pov which just isn't the case."

But every racial group has experienced oppression at some point in history. Should every human being receive reparations? Where do you draw the line? Also, aren't you being racist for assuming black people can't do well enough on their own without compensation for what their ancestors experienced?

"That sounds kinda defeatist."

I disagree.

"nobody is born racist."

Many libturds think that all white people are born racist.

"Encouraging businesses to hire people from bame communities is not about punishing white people. It's about making sure that people that have been excluded get included."

"What you call 'indoctrinating children with racial politics', I call education."

And I call it indoctrination.

"Like I said, nobody is born racist, it's learnt."

And like I said, many libturds think that all white people are born racist, and racism is learned through indoctrination.

"Kids that grow up in racist families are being indoctrinated."

Agreed.

"like you said, racism will be inevitable. It just doesn't have to be."

But it is true. The only way you can end racism is through mass brainwashing and indoctrination of Orwellian proportions until free thinking is obsolete.

"You are equating a group with a long history of violence aimed specifically at poc, a group who have murdered and terrorized countless people"

... a group created by the Democrats.

"with a group that are offering support to the descendants of those terrorized."

Correct. Both of them are violent racist extremist groups.

I don't support discrimination against anyone*.

"But every racial group has experienced oppression at some point in history. Should every human being receive reparations? Where do you draw the line? Also, aren't you being racist for assuming black people can't do well enough on their own without compensation for what their ancestors experienced?"

Are you implying that white people have experienced the same kind of discrimination to the same extent as poc?

"Many libturds think that all white people are born racist."

I haven't come across anyone expressing this opinion.

"But it is true. The only way you can end racism is through mass brainwashing and indoctrination of Orwellian proportions until free thinking is obsolete."

I disagree. Education and allyship make a significant difference.
'Orwellian brainwashing' consisted of people being consistently lied to, teaching children about equality and inclusion is not lying to them.
Ignorance breeds fear which breeds hate.

Learning about history from a balanced perspective rather than an exclusive perspective and learning about other cultures and religions would help.

"You are equating a group with a long history of violence aimed specifically at poc, a group who have murdered and terrorized countless people"

"... a group created by the Democrats."

What's your point? Trump was a Democrat too. As I pointed out to someone recently, who you are is far more about your actions than your words.

"with a group that are offering support to the descendants of those terrorized."

"Correct. Both of them are violent racist extremist groups."

Are you implying that both groups have the same goals and are displaying the same behavior?

I'm just not seeing the news stories about the thousands of white people that poc are slaughtering because they have white skin.

"Are you implying that white people have experienced the same kind of discrimination to the same extent as poc?"

Again, this isn't a competition of who has experienced the most discrimination.

"I haven't come across anyone expressing this opinion."

Then you aren't looking hard enough.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2002/jul/03/raceintheuk.comment

https://stateofopportunity.michiganradio.org/post/why-all-white-people-are-racist-cant-handle-being-called-racist-theory-white-fragility

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/02/06/vassar-college-workshop-all-white-people-are-racist/

https://www.insiderzim.com/all-white-people-are-racists/

https://www.alternet.org/2015/01/yes-all-white-people-are-racists-now-lets-do-something-about-it/

https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/07/dia-boss-recommends-book-saying-all-white-people-daniel-greenfield/

https://thefederalist.com/2015/07/10/why-white-people-will-always-be-racists/

https://medium.com/age-of-awareness/yes-all-white-people-are-racist-eefa97cc5605

https://metro.co.uk/2017/09/01/stop-kidding-yourself-white-people-are-racist-6895283/

"I disagree. Education and allyship make a significant difference.
'Orwellian brainwashing' consisted of people being consistently lied to, teaching children about equality and inclusion is not lying to them.
Ignorance breeds fear which breeds hate."

I disagree. The "equality and inclusion" schools teach is lies and indoctrination. They teach ignorance, which breeds fear, which breeds hate.

"Learning about history from a balanced perspective rather than an exclusive perspective and learning about other cultures and religions would help."

With "balanced perspective" meaning what you agree with and want others to be brainwashed with.

"What's your point?"

That the racist Democrats created the KKK.

"Trump was a Democrat too."

What's your point?

"Are you implying that both groups have the same goals and are displaying the same behavior?"

Different goals, same behaviour.

"I'm just not seeing the news stories about the thousands of white people that poc are slaughtering because they have white skin."

You're not seeing the news stories because the mainstream media sucks, and mainstream search engines hide alternative news.

White supremacy is "a thing"
So is Black supremacy
We can argue about how widespread either are and whether the incidents you mentioned are one offs
The point is that regardless of intentions, BLM is doing far more damage on a far larger scale to black communities than the KKK has since they were acknowledged to be Democrat

"White supremacy is "a thing"
So is Black supremacy"

Do you mean Black Solidarity?

No, I mean supremacy.
There are people who say blacks are genetically superior and whites should be exterminated. I'm surprised you're not familiar with that since such statements have even made mainstream news, and with minimal criticism.

Of course, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. It is just as likely that you are familiar with such statements and are being willfully ignorant because it doesn't fit your agenda.

DAT'S RITE!

That cop treated everyone horribly, but the liberal unions protected him & the liberal politicians looked the other way rather than fire him.

I think it might be a coincidence. Plus, why do you have to assume it was racism?

Autopsy said heart attack with no bruises on the neck, you race baiting maggot.