Elizabeth Warren: Just blame it entirely on what's politically expedient

Elizabeth Warren: Just blame it entirely on what's politically expedient |  Elizabeth Warren sadly announced today that Covid-19 has taken the life of her brother Don. Because mentioning his years-long battle with cancer and the fact he was 86 might spread needless panic, right? | image tagged in sad maddow,elizabeth warren,donald reed herring,coronavirus,conveniently overlook facts,hysteria | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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16 ups, 2m,
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Of course. I had a family member die of liver cancer in 2017.

The cause of death has been revised to "Covid-19."
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2 ups, 2m,
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Liar.
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11 ups, 2m,
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Laughing Don Draper | image tagged in laughing don draper | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
Too easy.

Just way too easy.
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3 ups, 2m
YOU DA MAN TIMBER | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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10 ups, 2m,
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Oh, and my grandma died of a stroke in 1986. Her new cause of death...?

You guessed it.

Covid-19
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5 ups, 2m
Martin Luther | Died in 1547 of congestive heart failure Revised to death by Corona Virus-19 | image tagged in martin luther | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
Martin Luther
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4 ups, 2m,
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Um, you do know what a joke is, right? Obviously anything before 2019 would not be revised to COVID19. That would undermine the the "justification" for locking us all up. The joke is simply that a lot of deaths are being erroneously attributed to COVID19 to pad the numbers (and make them look scarier).
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12 ups, 2m,
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They don't know it's a joke. If they do, they're pretending it's not. But it IS a great example of the Leftist's disingenuous willingness to take everything anyone says literally, if they think it can harm someone they hate.

That's where Trump's 1,842,736 lies stat comes from.

Trump: "You're full of shit."

Media: "Trump lied AGAIN! Obviously, we're full of blood and bones and internal organs...if we were full of shit, we wouldn't be alive!!"

And there you have it.
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3 ups, 2m
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8 ups, 2m
And he's voting for Biden in November.
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5 ups, 2m,
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1 up, 2m
Who watches that twat, anyway?
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4 ups, 2m,
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1 up, 2m
Yes, it seems like that is the popular (and ridiculous) verdict for too many deaths.
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4 ups, 2m
Too soon?
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3 ups, 2m
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3 ups, 2m
she is soo fake lol
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2 ups, 2m
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1 up, 2m
The only thing that shocks me is that Maddow still has a bloody job
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0 ups, 2m
That's just sad!
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1 up, 2m,
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1 up, 2m
When my grandmother caught pneumonia while battling cancer and subsequently died the coroner marked the cause of her death as "cancer". If she had been healthy and caught pneumonia, that is one thing, but when one's health is already seriously compromised by cancer, the cancer is the primary cause of fatality. Cancer creates the inability to fight off such illnesses. I think you already know this, and are happily pushing a false narrative in the hopes of scaring people.
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4 ups, 2m,
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Dude lived with cancer for years but caught covid-19 and died within a month.. unless there are other details I'm unaware of, blaming covid-19 in this instance seems legit.
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11 ups, 2m,
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Pay attention, because I know this is hard for Leftists: the CANCER which this guy had and was fighting had WEAKENED HIM. AND he was 86...well above the average lifespan for a white male in the US.

That made him SUSCEPTIBLE to an opportunistic infection like Covid-19.

That's how epidemiology WORKS.

Now, if you need me to define any of the capitalized words, let me know, I'll be glad to help.
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6 ups, 2m,
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Why didn't his 1/1024 Native American shaman save him?
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7 ups, 2m
I know, right? She could have done a rain dance and cured him right up...I guess she didn't care about him...
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0 ups, 2m,
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the CANCER which this GUY HAD and WAS fIgHtInG had WEAKEND HIM AND he was OLD
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and then Covid-19 killed him.
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2 ups, 2m,
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...which wouldn't, had he not had cancer and/or was 86.
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0 ups, 2m,
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You can speculate about what would or might have happened if you want to.

I'll stick to what actually happened.
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2 ups, 2m,
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It has nothing to do with speculation or what might have happened.

Here's where your "logic" fails, and what everyone has been patiently explaining to you: I can trip on my front door step, land flat on my face...and, aside from some scrapes and bruises, be just fine.

An 86 year old man with cancer does the same thing, and he's almost certainly dead.

So, what killed him?

The fall? Yes, obviously, the fall was the "last domino." But without the rest of the dominos, the "last domino" doesn't have any effect.

Do you understand any of that, or should I explain it more slowly for you?

It is disingenuous to say "Covid-19 killed my brother!" without also noting that he was 86 and a long time sufferer of cancer. But, then, disingenuousness is Warren's stock-in-trade, a liar who does not know how to tell the truth, so it is no surprise.
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0 ups, 2m,
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Again.. speculation.

You can die from a fall at any age. You crack your skull hard enough and you're done. Is it common? No. But it absolutely happens and it would not be disingenuous to say that they died because of a fall regardless of failing to note every little thing which may or may not have contributed to what happened.
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0 ups, 2m,
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You're still missing the point.

No one is talking about what is possible, but what is likely.

Saying someone died of Covid-19 without mentioning their age and underlying health issues is dishonest.
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0 ups, 2m,
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So your logic here seems to be that because covid-19 kills primarily older people with health issues, not mentioning their age and health issues is dishonest.. and I still disagree.

For example there's nothing dishonest about me telling you that my friend's uncle died from covid-19.
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1 up, 2m,
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"Question: Who killed you?

Answer: I did.

No context required."

Alright...the state's going to charge you with first degree homicide.

Still think context doesn't matter...?
0 ups, 2m
When you're dead and I'm in jail, not really, no.

I mean does context ever matter? Sure. But where does your line of thinking end? Possible context is nearly infinite.

Maybe you are 80 years old and had poor eyesite & poor hearing that enabled me to sneak up un-noticed, maybe you are relatively thin so that made the shove easier, maybe it was rainy and harder for you to regain footing, maybe the cliff was 300 feet deep, maybe it was a Wednesday which is when you often go near said cliff, maybe the soil was loamy etc..

None of those details are required. Sure my lawyer and the prosecution would argue over them but equating a general conversation with a trial is ridiculous. Failing to mention however much context you deem essential does not make anyone dishonest for blaming me for your death.

Your family yelling at me in court: "YOU KILLED HIM!"

Me: "well.... to be fair, it was a Wednesday and the soil was loamy, so I'm actually not that bad."
:P
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0 ups, 2m,
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Sure, it doesn't seem dishonest to you. This ought to come as no surprise.

Of course, when you're 98% of the way to death, and Covid-19 is the last little "shove" it takes to get you there...it's dishonest to say that your COD was "Covid-19."

But, that requires an understanding of distinction, so there you go.
0 ups, 2m
Ah.. "shove".... Another perfect analogy.

You're right next to the edge of a cliff. I shove you off. You died because I shoved you off.

Failing to mention how close you were beforehand would not make anyone dishonest.
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0 ups, 2m,
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"Ah.. "shove".... Another perfect analogy.

You're right next to the edge of a cliff. I shove you off. You died because I shoved you off.

Failing to mention how close you were beforehand would not make anyone dishonest."

You're almost there...let's see if I can bring you all the way:

"You died because I shoved you."

No context. Generally, shoving someone isn't going to result in their death. There must be more to the story than that statement by itself suggests...

"You died because I shoved you off a cliff."

Ah, there it is! You were close to a cliff, which is why that shove was so effective.
0 ups, 2m
Question: Who killed you?

Answer: I did.

No context required.
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0 ups, 2m,
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Do you understand that you just explained the rationale for the difference between manslaughter, 2nd, and 1st degree murder...?

But I guess context doesn't matter...
0 ups, 2m
as I just stated..

Context does matter matter sometimes.. but I don't think it's necessary here. Warren isn't on trial anywhere except in the court of public opinion. So you're free to keep believing she was being dishonest when talking about the death of her own brother if you want to (for not giving you however much extra context you feel was necessary)...

But as far as I'm concerned.. covid-19 killed her brother.. moving on
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0 ups, 2m
"weakened"
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0 ups, 2m
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2 ups, 2m,
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Right. So cause of death is complications from COVID. Not cancer. You laid it out well.
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1 up, 2m,
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My great-grandfather died in 1930. I don't know of what, but he was 75, so he'd lived well past the average life span of the time. I suspect that was due to complications from Covid-19, too.

Damn pesky virus!
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1 up, 2m,
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No, it was probably TB or other virus. Maybe cancer?
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0 ups, 2m,
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Oh, no, it was definitely Covid-19. The doctors called us up to let us know.
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1 up, 2m,
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He was a time traveler. Case closed.
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0 ups, 2m
You mean...my great-grandpa, who died some 40 years before I was born, time-traveled, and then died of Covid-19 before I could meet him???

That's horrible! (sob)
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0 ups, 2m
He's makin a joke ok. Leave him alone.
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9 ups, 2m,
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Except for the fact it wasn't the covid that killed him, it was his cancer. My mom died from Cancer two years ago this month, but it was the sepsis she cought caused by her cancer that ultimately did her in. The cause of death was cancer, not sepsis.
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0 ups, 2m
I don't know much about sepsis nor if cancer causes it...

but I'm pretty sure cancer does not cause covid-19.
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1 up, 2m,
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My father died after his 5th heart operation for a faulty valve.

I mean, he lived through the surgery but he got staph/mrsa and died a week later.

So please clear it up for me: did he die of heart disease or mrsa?

Clearly you’re a medical expert.
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3 ups, 2m,
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I guess you don't understand what "underlying" and "opportunistic" mean...

But you're the medical expert.
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0 ups, 2m,
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So, no answer? Thanks.
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0 ups, 2m
I did answer you; you just didn't like it.

You're welcome.
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7 ups, 2m,
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Your missing the point. He had a weak immune system. He probably could have gotten the flu and died as well
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3 ups, 2m,
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But he didn't. Facts matter.
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7 ups, 2m
Yes...they really do...but only if they support the Leftist narrative.
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1 up, 2m
Fact, you just made an idiot statement.
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0 ups, 2m,
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*you're

YES! He probably could have gotten the flu and died as well!! In which case, he should be included in the flu death statistics!
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0 ups, 2m,
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You still don't get it, his immune system was weak. That's the point i'm trying to make!
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0 ups, 2m,
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His immune system was weak.

And had he not gotten covid-19, it is quite possible that he would still be alive.
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0 ups, 2m,
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If the old people quarantined themselves while everyone else went about their lives, we could develop better herd immunity like we have done with the flu and such. Its by sheer chance he got covid. He is old, and as such is susceptible. Don't shut down society because of old people not taking care of themselves.
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0 ups, 2m,
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If you want to debate quarantine stuff, that's cool.. But that is a different conversation. We are or at least were talking about cause of death here.
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0 ups, 2m,
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What argument are you even trying to make at this point, its just sad.
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0 ups, 2m,
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I agree. It is sad. Apparently someone can't even say their own brother recently died from covid-19 without people giving them sh*t about it. Can't say I'm surprised though... At this point I probably should be happy some wingnut isn't claiming the whole thing was a hoax.
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1 up, 2m,
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People don’t give her s*** because she said her brother died, its because she made a big deal out of it to scare everyone about covid.
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0 ups, 2m
darko_yolo and AN0NYM0US are too far gone to get logic. Waste of time.
0 ups, 2m
Let me guess... TDS..?
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2 ups, 2m
And that would have been the flu that killed him. But it wasn’t. It was COVID.
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