Elizabeth Warren: Just blame it entirely on what's politically expedient

Liar.

Martin Luther

Um, you do know what a joke is, right? Obviously anything before 2019 would not be revised to COVID19. That would undermine the the "justification" for locking us all up. The joke is simply that a lot of deaths are being erroneously attributed to COVID19 to pad the numbers (and make them look scarier).

And he's voting for Biden in November.

Who watches that twat, anyway?

Yes, it seems like that is the popular (and ridiculous) verdict for too many deaths.

she is soo fake lol

Too soon?

The only thing that shocks me is that Maddow still has a bloody job

That's just sad!

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When my grandmother caught pneumonia while battling cancer and subsequently died the coroner marked the cause of her death as "cancer". If she had been healthy and caught pneumonia, that is one thing, but when one's health is already seriously compromised by cancer, the cancer is the primary cause of fatality. Cancer creates the inability to fight off such illnesses. I think you already know this, and are happily pushing a false narrative in the hopes of scaring people.

Dude lived with cancer for years but caught covid-19 and died within a month.. unless there are other details I'm unaware of, blaming covid-19 in this instance seems legit.

Why didn't his 1/1024 Native American shaman save him?

the CANCER which this GUY HAD and WAS fIgHtInG had WEAKEND HIM AND he was OLD
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and then Covid-19 killed him.

You can speculate about what would or might have happened if you want to.

I'll stick to what actually happened.

Again.. speculation.

You can die from a fall at any age. You crack your skull hard enough and you're done. Is it common? No. But it absolutely happens and it would not be disingenuous to say that they died because of a fall regardless of failing to note every little thing which may or may not have contributed to what happened.

So your logic here seems to be that because covid-19 kills primarily older people with health issues, not mentioning their age and health issues is dishonest.. and I still disagree.

For example there's nothing dishonest about me telling you that my friend's uncle died from covid-19.

When you're dead and I'm in jail, not really, no.

I mean does context ever matter? Sure. But where does your line of thinking end? Possible context is nearly infinite.

Maybe you are 80 years old and had poor eyesite & poor hearing that enabled me to sneak up un-noticed, maybe you are relatively thin so that made the shove easier, maybe it was rainy and harder for you to regain footing, maybe the cliff was 300 feet deep, maybe it was a Wednesday which is when you often go near said cliff, maybe the soil was loamy etc..

None of those details are required. Sure my lawyer and the prosecution would argue over them but equating a general conversation with a trial is ridiculous. Failing to mention however much context you deem essential does not make anyone dishonest for blaming me for your death.

Your family yelling at me in court: "YOU KILLED HIM!"

Me: "well.... to be fair, it was a Wednesday and the soil was loamy, so I'm actually not that bad."
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Ah.. "shove".... Another perfect analogy.

You're right next to the edge of a cliff. I shove you off. You died because I shoved you off.

Failing to mention how close you were beforehand would not make anyone dishonest.

Question: Who killed you?

Answer: I did.

No context required.

as I just stated..

Context does matter matter sometimes.. but I don't think it's necessary here. Warren isn't on trial anywhere except in the court of public opinion. So you're free to keep believing she was being dishonest when talking about the death of her own brother if you want to (for not giving you however much extra context you feel was necessary)...

But as far as I'm concerned.. covid-19 killed her brother.. moving on

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Right. So cause of death is complications from COVID. Not cancer. You laid it out well.

No, it was probably TB or other virus. Maybe cancer?

He was a time traveler. Case closed.

He's makin a joke ok. Leave him alone.

Except for the fact it wasn't the covid that killed him, it was his cancer. My mom died from Cancer two years ago this month, but it was the sepsis she cought caused by her cancer that ultimately did her in. The cause of death was cancer, not sepsis.

I don't know much about sepsis nor if cancer causes it...

but I'm pretty sure cancer does not cause covid-19.

My father died after his 5th heart operation for a faulty valve.

I mean, he lived through the surgery but he got staph/mrsa and died a week later.

So please clear it up for me: did he die of heart disease or mrsa?

Clearly you’re a medical expert.

So, no answer? Thanks.

Your missing the point. He had a weak immune system. He probably could have gotten the flu and died as well

But he didn't. Facts matter.

Fact, you just made an idiot statement.

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YES! He probably could have gotten the flu and died as well!! In which case, he should be included in the flu death statistics!

You still don't get it, his immune system was weak. That's the point i'm trying to make!

His immune system was weak.

And had he not gotten covid-19, it is quite possible that he would still be alive.

If the old people quarantined themselves while everyone else went about their lives, we could develop better herd immunity like we have done with the flu and such. Its by sheer chance he got covid. He is old, and as such is susceptible. Don't shut down society because of old people not taking care of themselves.

If you want to debate quarantine stuff, that's cool.. But that is a different conversation. We are or at least were talking about cause of death here.

What argument are you even trying to make at this point, its just sad.

I agree. It is sad. Apparently someone can't even say their own brother recently died from covid-19 without people giving them sh*t about it. Can't say I'm surprised though... At this point I probably should be happy some wingnut isn't claiming the whole thing was a hoax.

People don’t give her s*** because she said her brother died, its because she made a big deal out of it to scare everyone about covid.

darko_yolo and AN0NYM0US are too far gone to get logic. Waste of time.

Let me guess... TDS..?

And that would have been the flu that killed him. But it wasn’t. It was COVID.