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Socialism drags everyone down | HOW SOCIALISTS SAY SOCIALISM WORKS; HOW SOCIALISM REALLY WORKS; HOW THEY SAY CAPITALISM WORKS; HOW CAPITALISM REALLY WORKS | image tagged in socialism,capitalism | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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9 ups, 5y,
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9 ups, 5y,
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8 ups, 5y,
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8 ups, 5y
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1 up, 5y,
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Bullshit.

The American oil magnate John D. Rockefeller became the world's first confirmed U.S. dollar billionaire in 1916, and still holds the title of history's wealthiest individual.

While technology has certainly advanced in the last century, it doesn't mean we're overall better off than billionaires were 100 years ago. Maybe we're better off than the wealthiest person 200 years ago. Maybe.
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I disagree. A little over 100 years ago, we had the H1N1 spanish flu outbreak where it's estimated 50 to 100 million people died. Ninety years later in 2009, the H1N1 pandemic arose again but since our technology was worlds better, the death toll was less than 20,000. That's a death toll of 2500 to 5000 times less.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H1N1

Back in the early 1900's you had lower quality and quantity of food, potentially cholera infested drinking water, work was a lot tougher, and if you got a severe illness like cancer or polio, you were done for. Being rich got you potentially better food and water, but life threatening illnesses don't discriminate based on class. Nowadays, our quality and quantity of food has gone so far in the other direction, that we face an obesity crisis, we don't really have to worry about drinking water being contaminated anymore, and machines continue to do more and more work for us. Diseases like polio, chickenpox, measles, and smallpox thanks to vaccinations are now so rare they might as well be extinct. Even cancer, as bad as it is, isn't necessarily a death sentence anymore.
0 ups, 5y
You kind of defeated your own argument, and highlighted my point, by saying diseases don't discriminate based on class. Quantity of food has certainly improved, but arguably quality has not.
Technological advances doesn't necessarily mean the average person are better off than the wealthiest person. I already acknowledged that. For one thing, you can't compare all these advances to how a person lives now to how the wealthiest person lived then. Just because they had better access to education, healthcare, and food doesn't mean that the average American still has that.

There are actual things to quantify quality of life, negating wealth obviously, of John D. Rockefeller to the modern average American to prove you wrong.

Rockefeller lived to be 97 years old, while the average life expectancy of an American is only 79. Rockefeller owned 41 companies, while the 90% of American workers don't own their own business. Rockefeller had five children and the average American has three. Rockefeller's estate had over twenty bedrooms, while the average American house has three. The average American will own about six cars in their lifetime, while Rockefeller owned a portion of the automobile industry. I could not quantify how many cars Rockefeller owned.

Again, you can certainly quantify that the average American is better off than some of histories wealthiest people, but again, you have to take it back another century. Possibly two. The average american IS certainly better off than they were a hundred years ago. But not to compared to the one billionaire that existed 100 years ago.
8 ups, 5y,
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8 ups, 5y
7 ups, 5y,
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The problem with envy and coveting
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7 ups, 5y,
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If the rich are the same as the poor, there are no rich, but everyone becomes poor. That's how Socialism works and that's how it has worked throughout history.
2 ups, 5y,
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Can somebody please explain something here. What's all the talk about socialism based on?

1. Healthcare for all?
2. College education for anyone who wants it?

Is there something else that I'm missing?

Yes, while these two things would increase the social system, in no way would those two things be considered the end to capitalism in our country.

I just don't understand this black and white extreme thinking.

For example, a much greater socialist event has already occurred. Property tax. Effectively, we do not own our own home, even if it is paid for. Just stop paying property taxes and you will quickly find out who you've been paying rent to. Your municipality.
1 up, 5y
Actually, property tax is more communist than socialist.
0 ups, 5y
The controlling class stays rich, though. Socialism only "works" with a dictatorship capable of instilling fear within the people and controlling them. And that dictator has to pay off those loyal to the position. The rich may change, but there will always be a class of people in a socialist society who benefit more than others.
5 ups, 5y,
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It's his shtick
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4 ups, 5y,
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5 ups, 5y
That escalated quickly
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4 ups, 5y
oh yeah
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5 ups, 5y
misses the point
4 ups, 5y,
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hypocrite
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1 up, 5y,
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There is the rich, the poor and the mid class, for the mid class affording housing in good areas can be a bit tough but for the poor it is impossible to afford that type of housing forcing them to live in areas which you could say aren't as good as the ones the rich or mid's live in they are not given many chances to improve their situation, that's how our life works. Just a endless cycle of the poor, middle, rich. It is sad but that's the truth
5 ups, 5y,
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How do you define classes? I seen people who were "poor" monetarily but had it all. So many "rich" that were miserable. I do not like to label people because it depends on what you measure them by.
1 up, 5y
Those... were some of the most beautiful words I have heard, you are so right. The rich a lot of the time are broken families while the poor are together, they have love while the rich don't maybe the poor are rich in other categories. I was waiting for someone to bring this up, thanks man :). It makes me happy that some people out their get it.
1 up, 5y
Sounds fair -

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ceos-of-sp-500-companies-earn-more-in-two-days-than-the-average-worker-will-for-the-whole-year-2020-01-06?mod=home-page
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7 ups, 5y,
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You just gave a good example of Capitalism. You work for what you want and need and you succeed. Socialism doesn't allow for this.
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"if you want a place in Pacific Palisades overlooking the ocean.. work for that shit.."
If you don't want to sit on the side of the road begging for money...work for that shit.
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0 ups, 5y
He's off his meds today.
3 ups, 5y
Bro the graph clearly shows that under capitalism the poor have half the amount of the rich. It's called science.
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