or view the GDP as an aggregate number that spreads like smooth cheese.

though it is a really strong bullwhip,so good on trump.enjoy buddy!

You are correct, the President doesn't deserve all the credit, but it is partially due to his policies.

As Far as GDP being a bad number for comparison, I could have used other numbers besides the GDP. For instance, unemployment Trump 4% vs Obama >7.6%, Real Household Income Trump +2.3% Obama -5%, Job openings Trump +4.2% Obama -1.1%.

you are either totally ignorant or a complete lying jerk... so sick of the BULLSHIT fake news you idiots and the KING IDIOT spew out your mouth every day, so liar or ignorant, which is it?

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/04/trumps-numbers-april-2019-update/

Employment — Total nonfarm employment grew by 5,121,000 during the president’s first 26 months in office, according to the most recent figures available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

That continued an unbroken chain of monthly gains in total employment that started in October 2010.

The average monthly gain under Trump so far is 197,000 — compared with an average monthly gain of 217,000 during Obama’s second term.

Trump will have to pick up the pace if he is to fulfill his campaign boast that he will be “the greatest jobs president that God ever created.”

It is interesting that laonsite likes to quote Factcheck.org, a project from the scandal-plagued, Bill Ayers-supported Annenberg Public Policy Center.

there is nothing to be wrong or right about, the facts are the facts ja.

The report that says trump is guilty and Barr is getting subpoenaed for a cover up? that report?

Trump is guilty because he has done it right in front of my and yours and the worlds eyes, you partisan sycophant.... I was no fan of Reagan but jesus crimminy he was 1000% better and rolling in his grave over what has happened to his now lying, ignorant, white trash party.

Keep showing us how stupid you are, racist.

So did you.

"Russia if you are listening I hope you hack our computers".... "The meeting was about adoptions" "My dad did not tell me what to write".... "love it".... hows that Trump Moscow tower coming?

"Putin said he did not do it and I believe him"

Then he destroys the interpreters notes? from a private" meeting. How blind are you anyway?

If you were able to accept the same standard of evidence regarding the crimes of the left, your opinions would likely be regarded more highly.

Statistics themselves are not facts and do not prove anything. They describe and they suggest trends that have occurred to date. They do not predict. This is first day stats class.

Well there is a little more analysis and context you could provide, but I am sure you don't want to. Lets have a look...

"We compared job growth by industry for the 27 months after Trump took office in January 2017 to President Obama’s last 27 months in office, using data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Overall, Obama beats Trump — 5.5 million to 5.2 million.

But break the numbers down and something interesting emerges.

Under Trump, jobs in goods-producing industries — manufacturing, construction, mining — have been increasing at a much faster clip than when Joe Biden was vice president. These are the jobs Democrats are constantly promising that their policies will create and protect.

The data show that the economy created 1.2 million goods-producing jobs since Trump took office. That’s more than twice as many as were created in Obama’s last 27 months in office (455,000).

Look at manufacturing. In Obama’s last 27 months, the economy created 109,000 manufacturing jobs. It’s created 470,000 so far under Trump. Jobs in the durable goods manufacturing industry declined during this time under Obama. As did mining and logging jobs. They made solid gains under Trump."

https://issuesinsights.com/2019/05/13/blue-collar-jobs-trump-economy/?fbclid=IwAR3_1ZDEMOoJbG_3gjZ2kY5_WjGGmYbODqSwdQTKJo2s6SYVkRct6TfR-UA

So the economy, which is 70% consumer driven, lagged on that end due to prolonged reaction to the Great Recession (shellshocked consumers being such cheap bastards), and had started picking up - albeit slowly - in the latter years of what has now been a record decade long growth cycle?

Since those goods-producing economies are a direct consequence of growing demand and the resulting need to increase supply to meet it, how is Federal Goverment S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M-O (in Spanglish for the benefit of our Venezuelan friends that we are now suddenly supposed to love dearly) intervention at the Executive Office level responsible for that beautiful chunk of Capitalism in action at its laissez-faire-ish best?

Cheap bastards? More poor broke bastards. The demand was low because the banks bled off a huge amount of wealth and only the wealthy had disposable income. The middle and working classes had none. I doubt it is a simple cause and effect relationship - the Executive branch has the ability to influence the multi-factored process in one direction or another.

I was being sarcastic, like pretending to blame their situation on them.

Although one thing that always strikes me as odd in any recession is how everyone suddenly realizes they're broke simultaneously.
From remodeling kitchens every 2 years, 2 SUVs to match, and dumping ol' Bringen at the pound because he didn't match the new sofa set, to suddenly being maxed out and unable to afford the mortgage which they had been for 5 years for the new subdivision.

Oh, sorry! I didn't catch the sarcasm. Sometimes I miss that online.

Haa, it happens to all of us. Hard to detect it just read.

I was supposed to put *in joe pesci voice* or something like that, since it's the kind of goofy thing we say around here. The quip obviously would have made more sense that way.

The comparison shows Obama's last 27 months to Trump's first 27 months. By the last 27 months of Obama's term, the economy had been out of recession since June 2009.

Your excuse is not valid. If it made a comparison between Obama's first 27 months in office and Trump's first 27 months, that would be disingenuous.

But that's not what's its doing. And there is a clear pick up in the pace of the creation of manufacturing, construction, and goods producing jobs since Trump took office. It has nothing to do with people "being cheap asses".

What excuse? What's not valid?

Ok, I'll play, how did the yugest billionaire in America create all those jobs in a way most un-socialistic and also non-consumer driven?

"So the economy, which is 70% consumer driven, lagged on that end due to prolonged reaction to the Great Recession (shellshocked consumers being such cheap bastards), and had started picking up - albeit slowly - in the latter years of what has now been a record decade long growth cycle?"

Maybe that is more misdirection than an outright excuse.

The analysis I posted has nothing to do with the early part of the recovery. It has to do with later part of the recovery. It compares Obama's last 27 months with Trump's first 27 months, which makes sense to compare.

The comparison of those two periods shows a marked increase in job activity in manufacturing, construction etc. The pro-business stance of the Trump Administration is a factor in this jump.

You're still avoiding the question STILL.

I have to admit.witnessing this blossoming bromance is giving me a boner.

you missed a few things

despite unemployment being at its lowest under trumps administration, thats still 13088000 people without jobs.

jobs went up due to more businesses hiring people, not due to government intervention.
In fact, you could say that any and all intervention in the markets by the government has lead to a worse economy. i.e. the installation of corporatism, intellectual property, tariffs and regulations. all of these combined drive companies to bankruptcy or make it so they need to move overseas to make profit.

income is based on the market, not the government. The only exception is minimum wage, which actually also harms the poor in the markets.

you stupid kids have no idea what it was like when Obama took over. you are pathetic little cry babys.

So. During the Obama administration we heard about how those weren't the real numbers. That they were under reporting the unemployment blah blah blah blah.

It's literally the same people doing the calculations now. How are they not doing the same thing?

how is this NSFW?

so a messy desk with a bunch of unfinished paperwork is more prosperous

No, a President who works to make this country great is what is more prosperous.

one could infer that obama did that but faster so he doesnt have any paperwork left
you should try to avoid errors such as this when making an argument

and why dont you ask the farmers how prosperous they are... you know any tax break you think you got is gone via tariffs right? ask your grandkids when they start paying on all this debt. The coming collapse aside, A country is not a business, a business exists to make profit. A country exists to raise the standard of living for and protect its citizens.

You would have signed up for Trump University wouldnt you? Heck, some of you still would.

My mother's people are farmers (dairy and beef, certain vegetables). They like and prefer selling American-produced produce. And sales, according to them, has been more profitable over the last 18 months than it has been in over ten years. So there you go.

Yes one little anecdote tells the whole picture of millions. smh

Yeah, "one little ancedote". Dude, you just belittled the hard work and success of that entire branch of the family. But as your limited knowledge of the farming community is apparently derived directly from whatever union talking points subscriptions landing in your inbox, I will ignore those particular elitist insults.

Yeah he made him a farmer EIEIO

Yea 'one little anecdote' -

"This is the fifth year of low prices, basically, for crops," Hultman said. "I think time is just wearing us out."

To Brent Gloy of Grant, Nebraska, many farmers like him appear to be facing only bleak alternatives for planting.

"There's just not a lot people can do," Gloy said. "You're looking at late corn planting through part of the corn belt. They would normally go to soybeans. Man it's just a mess."

https://www.agweb.com/article/us-farmers-who-sell-to-china-feel-pain-of-beijings-tariffs/

This is the interwebz, kid. Your nappies are safe.

And upvotes for you too!

Guy whines about trying to act tough, then threatens with his little dick extender. Regular web tough boi, aren't you?

Try not suck on the barrel too hard, you might rust it.

You wanna join the crew?
We’re taking that cyber bully down

Disnotsofatdickbeta feeling threatened by widdle memes on a site from people he will never encounter even if he ever stepped out his room into the big bad nasty world outside?
That's on you, guy, your imagination.

Getting sucked off can be most delightful.
But then again, how could you know?

Mad? Because why?

So why are you all triggered? Does your butt really hurt that much?

Keep giving me attention, I like it, fanboi.
*slurp*

“Not really, it's more that I think a little c0cksucker like yourself is trying to act tough, because you lack the capability of actually being tough. Sucks to suck”
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This guy nailed it...
Not so tough even on the interwebz are you ya little cockroach. Quit running, you’ll only die tired.

The Irony, it hurts.

Oh, so you didn't strangle yourself to death again?
Phew, yeah, sweat off my brow.

Says the idiot who boils down the entire farming industry to one subsection, namely soybean farmers...so yes continue with your anecdotes

Wow... again... https://www.agweb.com/article/us-farmers-who-sell-to-china-feel-pain-of-beijings-tariffs/

Keep up the fear-porn if it makes you feel better about Hildebeast losing.

yep... another one. Nothing like a total fraud for potus...

You must've been one of it's failed students. Still holding on to that diploma template, eh? Dreams crushed because you didn't follow directions nor follow through?

I am too smart to fall for any of the grifters bullshit. Obviously you cant say the same - https://www.businessinsider.com/25-million-settlement-reached-in-fraud-lawsuit-against-trump-university-2018-4

The man with "the worlds best brain" and a "superior memory"... could not remember 187 times..... you're a real hack.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2746880-Trump-Deposition-Trump-University-Lawsuit.html

You know all about fear porn dont ya... oh and thanks to Stormy the REAL porn too huh? are you really a female? and you support captain pussy grabbing bone spurs? shame on you

Seriously? You really want the 1000's of taunts, lies and Fear that fat ignorant moron has spewed? piss off.

Anything POTUS has said is not nearly as vile as what has come out of YOU. All you seem to know how to do is insult others with increasing sophomoric vulgarity until you get the response you want--a meltdown from someone who can't tolerate how mean you are. Guess what, sunshine? I'm no snowflake and IDGAF what you think. So, YOU PISS OFF.

Didn't I tell you to piss off? or would you understand if I told you to blow...Stormy's dick...and Milano's too, while you're at it.

So trump is banging transsexuals now too? wow

Are you laboring under a belief that it is possible for all parts of the economy and the country to enjoy prosperity at the same time?

A hard worker's work is never done, hence the messy desk.

Because, you know, stress ain’t a thing

thank you for censoring your cuss if i saw someone swearing on the internet id lynch them on the spot

Bad, Bad Kermit! lol