Today's Decision : We're Not Sure (Maybe They Need To Consult Their Donors First)

LOLOLOLOL.. I had my door open.. and a person in the office down the hall just walked over to hear what was "So Damn Funny"...

LMAO! Home movies with Bob Crane. :-)

this is non-controversial.

now think this through gumby,
a foreign power has so much influence on our political system that they can exert enough pressure to actually have the leadership attempt to censure omar.

now sanders,and then harris stood up for omar,and peolsi and schumer backed off.

by the logic you are using,anyone who criticizes trump is anti-American.

which is,quite simply,preposterous and not a little stupid.

now if you agree that a foreign power has the right and privilege to make demands on our duly elected legislative body.
then you are ignoring sovereignty of our body politic,and would be considered a traitor to the American people.

The reasons the US supports Israel aka "The Jewish State" is because we swore an oath to do so after Germany wiped out half of the race. Jews are just now back to their pre-WWII levels and that's the first part.

The second part is that Israel is not paying American politicians to support them. They are a democracy and an ally and the discussion of money as a motive is a stereotype which is disgusting an inaccurate. She might just as well be talking about their big noses or their religious clothing..

Last, there's been a push by liberals in America to soften the "Palestinian" issue by saying maybe we can all talk peace and yeah Israel gets military support from our government for protection. If you look at history Palestine wants nothing to do with peace. Their only real industry is war and their other contributions are few and far between. When they voted in Hezbolah to run the area taht should have told anyone who thought differently anything they need to know.

She's entitled to her own opinion, but not he own facts. #endRant

guess it is a good thing that a jew came to her defense.
and that many jews are supporting her,because they recognize the undue influence AIPAC has on our legislative body.

but some people don't just have opinions,they are convinced.

There are lots of self loathing anti Israel Jews in New York. But lots of these people also think that Warren Wilhelm is a good mayor, Mario is an okay governor and that socialism is an acceptable form of government.

so the jews who support omar are self-hating?
but omar criticizing the isreali government is anti-Semitism?

are YOU F**KING SERIOUS?
do you ever read what you write?
ever listen to the words coming out of your mouth?

I will make sure to tell my friends they are "self-hating",and that you are in NO way being "anti-semitic".

As a member of the tribe, I'm happy to call out assholes who don't support Israel. I'm okay with them disagreeing with political policies by any government. The Palestinian conflict is really simple to end if Palestine wanted to. All they have to do is stop lobbing rockets and mortars from Gaza, start spending money that's allocated for infrastructure on infrastructure and stop trying to kill every Jew off the face of the earth, would be a good start.

How did you put it earlier ? It was basically "Agree to disagree"

Well said fellow MOT!

Hey, cut him a little slack, at least he didn't stoop to calling it "Jew York" like the suddenly-not-racists are usually apt to.

Wonder if those penalities for anit-Semitism while criticizing would apply to the other 50 States, or just the 51st.

gumby and I just approach situations from a different perspective.
I am sure I am just as bizarre to his sensibilities.

There are people who post straight up anti-Semitic memes here, heck, someone who named themself FuhrerAdolfHitler got deleted earlier this week.
As seen from the screenshot I posted, someone just yesterday told me to go back to Auschwitz. I've been mocked as Jewish here before that as well - Jew York included.

Funny that none of this gets noticed by these concerned citizens who meme after meme STILL defend the fine people of Unite the Right, rally en masse claiming that a lobbying group for Israel is not a lobbying group for Israel but rather, a... a.... something that isn't the lobbying group for Israel that it is because Netanyahu told them to say so.

Bizarre? Maybe. Some people would call that just earning their paycheck (note the hours of activity from these folks for a curious pattern somewhat east of EST).

Wait for my back-to-Auschwitz ass get called anti-Semitic before daybreak.

FuhrerAdolfHitler got deleted after a few weeks. Was here for far longer under a similar name.*

the muppet class on the right confound me.
it is like they don't even realize that they are dangerously close to the fascists who have adopted a radical xenophobia,mainly built on the hatred of the jews.they are racists and bigots against anything representing the "other" but they specifically target the "jews" as controlling entire countries,and banking systems.indirectly blaming jews for their own economic and political neutering.

populism has been rampant on a global scale the past few years,and if you pay attention to:france,italy and brazil,which have seen right wing populism rise to power.you can already see the rhetoric changing to a much darker,and threatening tone.

I don't know man.
racists and bigots are gonna racist and bigot.

but the people who always get targeted first are the ones least capable of defending themselves.
and I don't think using a loaded term "anti-Semitic" willy nilly just to shut down political discourse is a good idea.i understand it is a tactic,but it is short sighted in my opinion.

maybe I just don't get it.could be.
everybody has their blind spots.

but to me pointing to an actual,observable,quantifiable interaction,should not be deemed a racist observation.

this is like if I complain because you are stepping on my face,and you respond by labeling me anti-Semitic for pointing out you are stepping on my face.

that make sense?

meh..what do I know...

The f**k? Jew York?! What the f**k?!

"What would you call that"

You have an extremely valid point. While she repeatedly says anti-Semitic things, her right to free speech entitles her to say that. Hopefully, people will see it for what it is, and she'll be voted out next term. Meanwhile, she just needs to be out voted regarding policy issues.

You are ALL KINDS of wrong. Ilhan Omar said nothing bigoted - rather she has rightly questioned the power of the Zionist lobby in this country. The is no oath to "Defend Israel" in the USA... But there is an oath to defend the Constitution - which the anti-BDS legislation clearly violates.

There are plenty of Bigoted Christians - in the GOP, and supportive of Zionism.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/us/politics/aipac-congress-democrats.html

Reading all of your posts - you remind me if Irv Rubin. So let us ALL remember what a bigoted right wing fascist he was - and you are too, seemingly.
https://antiracist.org/from-the-archives-nazis-in-skull-caps-a-report-on-meir-kahane-and-the-racist-jewish-defense-league/

Nice try, but this has nothing to do with me. Because a couple of Jews get in the newspaper for holding some stupid signs it doesn't mean that she is a) not a bigot and a racist and b) not antisemitic...

Let me put it to you bluntly. ILHAN OMAR HATES JEWS. She's a Muslim congresswoman going after the JEWISH STATE. Why because Israel is hurting the Minnesota economy ? No, because this is her AGENDA.

One of the oldest stereotypes is to make being antisemitic come across as the victim.. I criticized the Jews and now they're all coming after me..

F**k her and her racist rants. People support Israel because it's the only DEMOCRACY in the region and they are surrounded by countries who all want to wipe them off the map. Put that in context next time you're inspired to say something stupid about the subject.

Israel is no more a "DEMOCRACY" - than MISSISSIPPI or ALABAMA was - prior to the Civil Rights Acts of 1964 and 1965 (and there is still some doubt about that). It is an APARTHEID Ethno-State - that routinely violates the Human Rights of its inhabitants. It useslive ammunition upon Journalists, healthcare workers and Journalists. It is a SHANDA.

Those are the Neturei Karta - Charedi orthodox Jews - who follow the prohibition on a "Jewish" State - which remains in place, until the Moshiach arrives. The conflation of Zionism with Judaism is actually "Anti-Semitic". Ilhan Omar isn't the one whose heart is filled with hate - that's you. And slandering her and her courageous speech - is clearly part of the HASBARAH program - of attempting to marginalize anyone who dares speak out, about the unquestioning support for an allied Government - that engages in wholesale Human Rights violations, WARCRIMES, and Violations of International Law; a Nuclear Power - that is a non-signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. As such - by US LAW - they are forbidden from receiving ANY US aid. In short - ISRAEL IS A ROGUE NATION.

Rep. Omar - sits on the Foreign Affairs Committee - and represents a community that is clearly concerned about these issues. As such - she is doing a FINE JOB. In your attacks, you and AIPAC are proving exactly the points she's made.

Yesterday 3/9 - Jewish Voice For Peace held a demonstration in support of Rep. Omar ... Here is their Calendar listing:
"Stand in support of Congresswoman Ilhan Omar! 2-4p, 3rd Street Promenade, Santa Monica. JVP-LA demonstration to support for Omar’s accurate and uncontroversial public statements regarding the Israel lobby group AIPAC and its role in influencing Congress. She has been smeared with false accusations of anti-Semitism by leaders of the Democratic Party, President Trump, and pro-Israel organizations who want to silence her. Her status as one of the first two Muslim women in Congress makes her an even bigger target."

Your lies in support of THE APARTHEID STATE of Israel - do little to bolster your argument. As the Rabbis of the Neturei Karta will tell you - Jews and Palestinians lived in peace for centuries - Zionism is what started all this tsuris and mischagoss.

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One of those "Journalists" should have read "Children" - regarding the the thousands injured and over 100 killed while engaging in peaceful protest at the Apartheid wall arpund Gaza.

For the record, I have dual citizenship in the US and Israel. I don't think most Americans have the attention span to understand what's going on. If they did their decisions on who to support would be easy.

Pretty Sick of it myself.

Sad, but true !