Grumpy old Man

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cap, why do u think they wud not approve this? imgflip.com/i/2v74ux

I'm sorry, I am not sure what you are referring to.

they finally approved it

Where do you live? I see it all around me in Northern Virginia.

What offends me is the idea that we're "entitled" to these benefits. That somehow it's our "God-given" right.

speaking of social benefits, can't wait for the boomers to start raising our taxes more than AOC ever could just with social security

Once again you try to blame the Boomers when in fact you have no idea what you're talking about.

There is no way social security would ever approach the $9.3 Trillion a year that AOC Green New Deal would cost.

Besides, Social Security wouldn't be running out of money if Congress hadn't raided the trust. The government owes the Social Security fund almost $4.8 Trillion dollars. So if the Government hadn't "borrowed" the money from SS in the first place, it would not be projected to run out of money by 2033.

Heh, SS. Schutzstaffel.

Social Security is not the first thing that comes to mind when one says SS.

:-D

Only for a german.

"Once again you try to blame the Boomers when in fact you have no idea what you're talking about. "
Technically, the majority of congress are boomers, so I can blame the boomers for a lot of current issues.

"There is no way social security would ever approach the $9.3 Trillion a year that AOC Green New Deal would cost."
http://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html
It's getting up there. Also, the only news site I've seen say that $9.3 Trillion will be spent on the Green New Deal is Fox News.

Once again you need to research. The $93 Trillion number came from a Washington think tank American Action Forum, which is run by Douglas Holtz-Eakin, who directed the non-partisan CBO from 2003 to 2005. and was first reported by Forbes and Fortune.

http://fortune.com/2019/02/25/the-green-new-deal-ocasio-cortez/

Second, Congress started "borrowing" from the Social Security Trust in the 1980s which means most boomers would have been in their 20's and 30's and not yet a force in Congress. As far as overall U.S. debt, if Congress hadn't raided Social Security, it would not be contributing to the debt at all as it would have been self-sustaining. Welfare contributes more to the debt than SS.

As much as your generation likes to blame boomers or anybody else for all your problems, the world doesn't work that way.

You should remember that it was a boomer who brought you cell phones, the internet, the PC, space exploration, cable TV, ATMs, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, microwave ovens, and many more things that make your life better. So get off your high horse and thank a boomer for even bringing you into the world, though that may have been a mistake.

Did some research. That source "Fortune" is one of those sites trying to appeal to naive boomers. (see image)

The article doesn't do much either. It mainly says things without citations, and where it states that it'll be $90 trillion doesn't state if that's official.

"As much as your generation likes to blame boomers or anybody else for all your problems, the world doesn't work that way."

https://www.fool.com/retirement/2018/05/20/did-congress-really-steal-from-social-security.aspx

Congress didn't raid Social Security. They used the money for special-issue bonds.

"As much as your generation likes to blame boomers or anybody else for all your problems, the world doesn't work that way."

Not all my problems; all problems. Gen Y was the generation that said the boomers caused their problems; Gen Z is the generation that says the boomers caused problems.

"You should remember that it was a boomer who brought you cell phones, the internet, the PC, space exploration, cable TV, ATMs, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, microwave ovens, and many more things that make your life better. So get off your high horse and thank a boomer for even bringing you into the world, though that may have been a mistake."

A) A gen X person brought me into this world
B) A few boomers invented the internet and other devices we use. The other 75.4 million didn't. Boomers, due to the rapid birth rates, also drained a lot of resources and jobs from America; there were more of them than the generations before them, hence the name "baby boomers".

Sorry, but you are wrong on almost all your points.

First, the images you posted are not germane to this conversation at all

Fortune Magazine has been around since 1930 and Forbes was started in 1917. Both are highly rated for their financial news and insight. It is not a site, but a well-respected news outlet. But of course, you wouldn't know that.

The article did use citations. It stated that the information was from the American Action Forum. As far as it being "Official", it is an estimate based a what was submitted to the Congress. Since what was outlined in the Green New Deal didn't really have any specific solutions only pie in the sky talking points, this is probably the best that can be done at this point.
https://www.americanactionforum.org/multimedia/clip-aafs-douglas-holtz-eakin-on-costs-of-the-green-new-deal/

Maybe you should look up what a "Special Issue Bond" is. The "Special Issue Bonds" issued by the Congress are non-convertible instruments and have no financial value. They are really just worthless IOU's. So yes, the Congress did RAID the trust fund. Sorry, you're wrong on this point too.

Your point on draining resources and jobs makes no sense. Since 1950 till now the U.S. has been more prosperous than any other nation in the world. The U.S. today is the wealthiest and greatest nation in history. The U.S. is the largest exporter of technology, food, and energy in the world. The U.S. has more resources than almost any other nation and is finding more all the time. You can thank the boomers for that. Today, there are more jobs than qualified people to fill them. In addition, since Boomers are retiring, more jobs will become available. So your point on this is also invalid.

Yes, the boomer generation was a large generation, so what. Today there are around 65 million boomers alive. That accounts for less than 20% of the U.S. population. There are 25 million illegal aliens in the U.S. today.

Saying that Boomers are responsible for all problem is just a ridiculous statement and sounds more like an excuse for your own shortcomings.

I can see that you have a closed and infected mind with a fixation on the Boomer generation. I see no reason or benefit from ever responding to your comments again. Have a nice life, and maybe seek some counseling for your victimhood issues.

"Fortune Magazine has been around since 1930 and Forbes was started in 1917. Both are highly rated for their financial news and insight. It is not a site, but a well-respected news outlet. But of course, you wouldn't know that. "

Forbes doesn't help your case here. Forbes is also one of the many dying online journalism sites (by online journalism, I mean both Forbes and Fortune, as well as sites like Buzzfeed, NYT, Vox, etc.). Many sites like that are really, really out of touch with society currently. Fortune might not have that case, but it certainly doesn't help when there are articles like the ones my image existing on sites like that one. Not long ago, LGBTQ Nation published an article highlighting the same discussion in a similar leaning.

http://fortune.com/2018/12/11/pewdiepie-esemicolonr-controversy/

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/12/youtubes-popular-vlogger-history-supporting-nazi-anti-lgbtq-content/

"First, the images you posted are not germane to this conversation at all"

That is true, but the the source of the news still matters as regarding testifying if it's in touch with modern society.

"Maybe you should look up... ...too."

Alright, I'll admit that it was congress's fault. Still, my point still stands: the baby boomers, being the first large enough generation, will still take from social security, regardless of Congress's bad management of money and poor prediction of their desire for drafting.

"Your point on draining resources and jobs makes no sense.... ...you can thank the boomers for that. Today, there are more jobs than qualified people to fill them."

Just because the boomers made the US prosperous doesn't mean that the generation is the smartest. Because the boomers were huge in number, they could breed really fast and have their children breed as well. This caused the US population to jump by nearly 200 million in a generation when the millennials were born, which brings me to my next point.

"In addition, since Boomers are retiring, more jobs will become available. So your point on this is also invalid."

Millennials (Gen are the children of boomers, and now the boomers are retiring, while the millennials are around age 30. Most people start getting a job when they are teens, and for the millennials, this was difficult.

"Saying that Boomers are responsible for all problem is just a ridiculous statement and sounds more like an excuse for your own shortcomings."

I was saying that sarcastically. Millennials are basically the younger, irritating boomers. However, I'm not a millennial. I've been very lucky in my life. I've just been doing a lot of research on the baby boom in recent times. You do know I'm sarcastic with the majority of my comments, right?

"I can see that you have a closed and infected mind with a fixation on the Boomer generation."

Well, I was willing to do more research on the generation than the average boomer would.

"I see no reason or benefit from ever responding to your comments again. Have a nice life, and maybe seek some counseling for your victimhood issues."

when you feel like you've just owned someone online

It took me 20 minutes to read and understand this argument. magic does happen in the politics section