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Can’t argue with that. It’s mental issues, not guns.

It's not mental illness, it's the DNC and the CIA.

Says who?

Says Q.

The CIA works on behalf of the same syndicate that the DNC works for. When the DNC needs the publics attention diverted the CIA orchestrates an event, known as a false flag.

Remember how people started questioning that Sayoc bomber after all of the information started getting out and wasn't adding up? What happened a day or two later? Someone ran inside a synagogue and started shooting. People stopped talking about the bomber.

Don't you find it strange how many shootings have been happening in the past two months? It's one right after the other. Why now all of a sudden? Midterms. FISA declassification. Criminals in the government are about to be exposed and they are thrashing around.

It’s the media. They explain every little detail, to get their ratings up, since everyone is cutting the cable The media doesn’t care. FOX, CNN, NBC, all have the same narrative— To get their ratings up. They don’t care if people die, like all other things, it’s a business. It encourage want-to-be shooters that they’ll have the same reaction when they do a mass shooting. AlternateHistoryHub explains it in much more detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3VQULyT390

What is Operation Mockingbird?

In the 1960's the CIA decided to infiltrate every news outlet. Radio, TV, and newspapers were all brought under the direction of CIA personnel. You can still find old letters of people writing to complain that the news and entertainment they were used to listening to on the Radio and TV had started becoming repetitive just around the time the operation took effect.

The CIA creates False Flags and then tells people what to think about them. Media is just a tool, the money is irrelevant. The real value is the mind control it provides for the sinister forces in our government and their masters.

Do you know Q?

"Do you know Q?"

Not quite :)

https://8ch.net/patriotsfight/index.html

https://qmap.pub/

mental illness isnt real its just millennialtards pretending so that we feel sorry for them

Not all millennials are "retards." Some are actually reasonable. The word for what you just described is "leftist."

i like how you just decided the moderate left doesn't exist

No, I just decided not to say "alt-left," because there is no such thing. The so-called "alt-left" are not any different than the left. I just didn't mention the moderate left because I'm not aware of their existence. That doesn't mean I 'decided' they didn't exist, I'm not God.

I'm not gonna play the scrutiny "game," so forget it.

Mental illness is the target CIA agents zero in on to find potential candidates for their schemes.

Don't blame the messenger.

And anyone who beats spouse, children, or animals has a mental issue.

They should require psyche evaluations before you can get a license.

Ikr

I have a little rule, if you agree with it, upvote it.

Everybody here is arguing about gun laws. Way to be a bunch of Mind Cucks. The DNC, MSM, and CIA have just successfully mind controlled you.

Let's talk about the shooter instead. Who knows anything about him. I can't find shit.

Every publicized mass murder since the president has been elected (and even before that) has been designed by the Democrats.

People don't just pick up guns and kill people. People are manipulated into believing killing others is the answer. The CIA, MSM, and DNC has already succeeded in mind controlling everyone here into talking about gun laws. They mind controlled Ford into believing Kavanaugh raped her, and they can mind control teenagers and unstable men into pulling a trigger.

Wake up.

I believe you that corrupted agencies can "mind control," but it's called hypnotizing. There are certain ways that images and sounds can be presented that will suppress your frontal lobe (decision-making part of the brain) so that you'll believe certain things and do certain things. The music industry has done it, and so is the news industry.

Maybe that's why I don't watch the big news companies. Local news channels like 3, 9, and so on are more reliable and usually cut to the chase and then tune off instead of rambling on and looping about "news" all day.

Avoid flashy and quick stuff to keep from getting hypnotized.

11-11

90% of Q dates are lies to f**k with the clowns. We'll see. We're only a few minutes into the big day.

If they start giving psyche tests, a lot of the problems should be solved. Doesn't stop the black market, though.

You think you're going to stop a modern government with your 12 firearms? Think about it.

Tell that to the Mujahideen

California has one of the lowest gun death rates in the country despite the mass shootings, and that can be attributed to gun control. If you want to protect 2nd amendment rights to own guns, then you should also be in favor of reasonable gun control laws.

I think guns are fine in America, but I'm British so I don't live in the same climate.
But just being sold on whim is a little too risky.
Just my opinion.

wait why are people against gun laws? it makes sense for people to get mad at people demanding guns to be banned completely, that doesnt help; but removing gun laws doesnt make a shooter's job harder.

personally, I think there should be a license to buy and own a fire arm. You can have guns, but you can't get them on a whim.

Americans getting murdered by guns. Boring. The rest of the world doesn't care Americans murder their owns citizens in huge numbers anymore and will not take preventative measures. Boring. Dead kids is old news, current news and future news in America. Let's talk about something else.

According to the Kojo Nnamdi show and guests, there were at least a few instances where an intercept law (temporarily remove gun) could have been used if more people were aware of the law.

And drug laws don't prevent druggies. But we shouldn't have heroin laying about to make it even easier

And there is no right to any gun you want.

Guns are illegal to certain persons. ex-felons for example. Doesn't prevent them from owning them illegally.
I am for sensible gun ownership legislation. Just like I am for sensible drivers to have a drivers license.
AR-15's should be restricted IMO
You don't need a machine gun for hunting purposes.

Says someone who doesn't hunt and know nothing of AR-15s. "Machine gun" hahaha

It is basically a machine gun. Isn't needed for hunting. You are just a gun nutjob. I own guns. Just not a nutjob

Red barron nailed it

Bump stocks will make it basically a machine gun. AR 15's are easily modified to make it to be fully automatic. No reasonable person will argue that they need them for hunting.

I take 2 to 3 deer annually with an AR chambered in .223

The second amendment has NOTHING to do with hunting. Hunting has been regulated for many years. The government decides when or if we can hunt, what we can hunt and how many we can take. Don't confuse the two.

Sounds a lot like common sense gun laws at work.

Thanks for making a point on my behalf.

Great. But you don't need an AR to shoot a deer. I don't need a Mack truck engine in my pickup truck.

You don't need all of your brain to work to live either. But it definatley helps. Have you driven a mack truck? No so your base of reference, that being your knowldge, is not solid. Go read/do your homework assignment instead of just spouting off rhetoric.

Except that without gravity you couldn't hit the ground with a bump stock equipped rifle. They're a novelty item, nothing more. Absolutely no word at all if the Vegas shooter even used the guns equipped with them.

What? Yes there is word about him using it. smh

Final point. You don't have any REAL experiance with firearms. I can tell by the words you choose and the points you rely on. You may continue with me AFTER you know what you are talking about.

Handguns were used in 19 times as many murders than rifles were in 2016, according to the Uniform Crime Reporting data. Handguns killed nine times as many persons as rifles, shotguns, and other guns did combined.

Reasonable gun legislation is needed. This much is clear. We can argue what is reasonable. With the advent of 3d printing which allows one to bypass the already weak laws to print a gun. Something needs to be done instead of just saying, oh well crazies are the reason.

Again you don't know what your talking about. Reasonable gun legislation exists. Stop talking and start reading some of the laws. Grab a book your states revised statutes. Then tell me if it's a law issue or an resposibility issue.

You promised. Now just stop it ok. I will no longer engage you and ask you return the favor. RB1 said he would but has failed already

3D printed guns will never be responsible for a mass shooting. If all weapons were 3D printed, there would be NO mass shootings. If anything, we should only allow 3D printed guns.

Wowza

I'm all for gun control. You guys obviously have no gun knowledge. 3D printed guns are single shot, slow loading and have a very low maximum number of rounds that can be fired in them before they are junk. It would be like trying to commit mass murder with a musket. You guys probably don't even know what a musket is. This is why we have no gun control. Most of those who want it, know nothing about guns. Next you'll be telling me, "it doesn't take an assault rifle to shoot a deer".

Take it easy. You have to sprinkle the knowledge. Not dollop the knowledge.

There is nothing that gives you the right to any kind of weapon you want. That attitude is why you will be seeing strong pushes to ban semi auto long guns.

I will agree with you on some points, but must correct you on AR-15's, They are not "Machine guns" I think you are thinking of a "Fully automatic" as in machine gun? That means you pull the trigger and hold it and the gun fires until you release the trigger. Those type of guns are illegal for everyone including cops to own. You can own and use some of those types of guns but you need a federal Judge and the atf to give you a special license . They can check on you anytime and come into your house 24/7. It is one of the rarest of gun licenses. My Family member was a 35 yr ATF agent and has since retired a few yrs ago, I am pretty sure the laws are as stringent on "Machine guns" now or more since he retired. The ar-15 is 1 shot, 1 pull as all semi autos are.The fire power isn't that great compared to some other larger caliper and heavier load riffles .It is a gun and like many things can be dangerous in the wrong hands. The killings in Ca this week were done with a hand gun and an illegal 20 round clip(not even cops can have them in Ca) I dont think it made much difference because the 10 round legal clip can be reloaded by a Marine in under 2 seconds.(but who knows 2 secs might be life vs death for a victim finding shelter?) the Insane man got his hands on an illegal clip anyway, all the laws failed, the Cal mental health "Experts" who ok'd him in April failed too.I wish one of the bouncers was carrying and was able to shoot back but No where in the USA is a legal gun aloud in a bar, Courtroom , school etc even by off duty cops.We may want to rethink that law and give certain security special training for such instances. I was trained by my military father at a young age(preteen) to handle and manufacture (reload) weapons (legally) I was taught the danger of them and how to use them properly. I am all for ppl having to take a class when they get a gun, but its not the legal ppl I am worried about. It is the crazies,crooks and criminals that are too worry about who will get guns any way possible, often illegally.

There is no need to correct anyone on the AR-15. No, it isn't a fully automatic weapon. The military has also realized that full auto all the time is a complete waste and inaccurate. They shoot in bursts of 3 but you probably already know that. The AR-15 is as close to a military weapon there is and for a different reason. The main issue with the AR is the magazine. 2 30round magazines taped to each other gives the murderer 60 rounds. This is where the problem lies. Mass producing magazines for everything and selling them to everyone under the sun is what is allowing people to kill so many people so quickly. If only 5rd magazines were allowed for the AR, it would be no different than any other long rifle semi auto. It doesn't matter how scary it looks.

anyone can convert a 5 rnd clip illegally if they wanted too, its 9th grade metal shop, most murders in the usa are handguns anyway including Ca shooter.

Bull!!!!! 9th grade metal shop? I've worked on mags. They're nearly impossible to get right so they don't jamb, in fact I have never gotten one to work correctly with years of metal work skills. How many mass murderers have you seen who've converted a Remington model 8 into hundred round killing machines? Laughable.

Well i obviously know better machinist than you.(trained by the ATF and all legit tho). Ever see that crazy slavic guy on the net?(you tube took him off) he took an AK and converted it to feed upside down and used a trough to feed it, he called it "funnel fed" he said it took him a day to make it. Theoretically a few hundred rounds if you want. down side it was bulky and did often jam, but yet again he had only worked on it for 1 day and cost him under 20 bucks to make. Not sure what country he was from, maybe Ukraine. How many "Mass murders" have you seen where the ppl shot back? I am not saying arm everyone, just the security. In the Ca bar, if the bouncer were armed and the staff, he probably would have killed a lot less. same with school shootings . In Israel, the teachers are armed. Maybe we should rethink the laws where nobody is aloud to have a gun of schools or bars because it only disarms the honest ppl. remember this, The 2 biggest "Mass murderers" in the USA ever didn't use guns at all (9/11 and Ok city). Crazies will Kill, no law will stop them. CA bar shooter case in point, 20 round clips are 100% illegal in CA, do we make them 200% illegal? PPl say"Well he will just get it from another state" . Lets say all the states ban them for argument sake. What is going to stop them from being imported from mexico etc? we have massive tractor trailer loads of drugs being imported daily, why cant they bring in illegal guns too? Laws only hurt the honest ppl, criminals dont care about laws.Both you and I know that anyone with basic science can make a killing device to kill many ppl if they wanted to that doesn't necessarily have to be a firearm. Want to slow down gun crimes? stop letting "violent repeat offenders " out of jail, they are responsible for 90% + of killings in the usa.

Nearly ALL mass murderers were as you describe, "honest" people. Right up to the point they started shooting. Most buy their weapons legally and are not criminals. I doubt we have to worry too much about machinists who were trained by the ATF. Considering most school shootings are committed by young people with clean records, none of your points fit reality.

none of my points??? lol . You just proved my point 4 me. saying they will be undetected prior to law enforcement SO GIVE SECURITY A WAY TO FIGHT BACK!!!!!!!!~ Just like Israel does!! They are in a hornets nest in the mid east surrounded by ppl who want them all dead! There was a Principal in texas , ex military who kept a 45, when a shooter came in to the school, he shot him, way less fatalities then intended.What is your answer? ban guns? less rounds??? Ha Thugs . Crazies wont comply. Murder is 100% banned already.

We will never ban all guns. Never will happen. That doesn't mean we can't try to limit the main cause of mass shootings. 30rd mags, 10rd mags, 50rd mags. The best way for security to have an upper hand is to create a database with everyones purchase records and mental health records to create automatic red flag warnings at a certain point. A database like that will likely never happen in this country. Too many people worried about their personal freedom and privacy. The crazies walk among us. Nearly half of adults have some form of mental health problem. At least half of underage people do as well. They are almost as common as guns.

um.... https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/category/parts-and-accessories/magazines/glock.do

weeping new gun laws passed last year by California voters and legislators require those with magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition to get rid of them by July 1.

Read more here: https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article158150224.html#storylink=cpy

Well thats a start

he was not aloud to have that clip as of july 2017. Honestly i dont think it made a darn dif, a marine can reload a clip in under 2 secs. The Cali mental health "experts" failed. I wish the security at the bar was aloud to carry, he may have shot the one but the other 2 bouncers could have shot back and killed him b4 patrons died.But nobody is aloud a gun in a bar, even off duty cops.

So your solution to prevent yoga classes being shot up is yoga instructors, "allowed" to carry? Maybe you could start a new line of spandex pants with concealed pockets.

How many "Yoga " classes have been shot up? My "solution" as a start was stated b4, dont let repeat violent offenders out of jail because they do 90%+ of all the homicides and most homicides are done with handguns. What is your proposal ? 5 rounds? OK, thug says "no" or thug brings 3 guns, what did that solve? my family member has a Thompson contender . single shot. he can reload it in 2 secs. we timed him.Most ppl wont know its a single shot . answer this one question. If you could go back in time to the CA bar shooting, would you give the security guns if you had the power knowing what you know now?

A yoga class was just shot up a couple weeks ago. The CA bar shooting you mentioned is a perfect example of why most of your talking points are inaccurate. The, "violent offender" was an ex marine with a clean record and known by others as a, "good guy". He purchased his glock legally. He installed an aftermarket extended magazine. Had he had a single shot contender, it would not have been a mass shooting. If he was a "repeat offender" he would not have been able to buy his weapon legally. If he had a maximum 5 shot mag, that at least would have slowed him down. Before the shooting this man was not a thug. He was not a criminal. He followed the laws. Would he have broken the law and purchased an illegal weapon? Would he have broken the law and purchased an extended mag? We can't know because the NRA has ensured all funding to find the answers to these questions, has been killed in congress. Throwing up your hands and saying nothing can be done, is not an answer. We are not going to arm yoga classes. We're not going to arm most high schools nor should we.

Why does this idiot keep mentioning hunting, as if it is relevant to the conversation of citizens rights....

Not sure about your position, elaborate.