Sense of Entitlement

No one claims a security clearance is a right. They claim it's taken away as political retribution .. and Trump publicly admits that it is.

Don't make enemies with the POTUS and not expect a little backlash. At least nobody's heads are rolling. Very civil.

They can claim whatever they like. They can even claim that lie. There is no right to it and if you can't be trusted like Bozo and a whole pile of others who are trying to destabilise the nation with lies, then to hell with these prats.No clearance is all they get~ end of story

Trump is a vindictive bully who simply doesn't like people who disagree with him.

There’s no reason for Brenner to have security clearance, and for Brenner to claim that violates his first amendment rights is ubsurd. He can keep going on tv and bashing Trump just like he always does. Trump doesnt silence anyone, he simply excercises his own first amendment rights and fights back. The bullies on the left don’t like being bullied by someone on the right, because it’s never happened before. Isn’t it great!?!? Yes, it is! :)

Look at your name: God. Emperor. Trump. Pathetic. Go and kowtow before your master.

That still makes him a bully.

When I was growing up, the proper response to a bully was to hit back, hard. Are you supposed to just bend over and take it nowadays?

The appropriate response is still the same as when we grew up - act like an adult. Trump isn't capable of meeting that basic standard.

lol that's weak liberal talk. Did you pull that one out of your va**na?

If someone bullies you either a) smack them where they stand. Or b) wait until you can get away with it and really f**k them up.

Trump is doing the direct approach thing, very honorable. Pansy libs that have never physically stood up to a bully or even been in a fight wouldn't understand.

"Wait until you can get away with it and then really f them up?" What a coward.

Again, you don't get it. It's not cowardly, it's just the way things are. L2p. Poor little liberal, you ain't got what it takes 2p.

If someone steals your stuff, you don't beat them up in broad daylight in front of witnesses. You get them alone and do the dirty. That's what they get for the offense against you.

Legally, if you were to do what you just described, you could be charged of assault. And don't say it's self-defense. Self-defense is doing whatever is necessary to get out of a situation where you are in immediate danger. That means whatever amount of hits you need in order to temporarily disable the person and escape. No wonder you can't be reasoned with. Your idea of how to solve problems is to automatically fight until the other person is down.

And don't you dare suggest that I've never had to deal with bullying and physical abuse and call me a pansy. I've dealt with that more than most people have, and I've had to make my way out of physical abuse more than I ever would've liked. Maybe you should shove it up your ass and stop talking like you know everything.

"Legally, if you were to do what you just described, you could be charged of assault"

You don't say? Do you think that matters? Why do you think I emphasized "when you can get away with it"?

Dam, white bread... don't get all crusty with me. I wasn't talking to you, unless you have your alts mixed up. Based on the fellow I was actually talking to's response, I could tell he was a non physical pansy that has never dealt with real bullying, and if he did he just took it without ever standing up for himself.

I am perfectly capable of reasonable conversation. I'm also capable and totally fine with beating the shit out of people that need a good ass whooping. It takes a responsible willingness to inflict pain on other people to be a truly exceptional individual. Conflict and violence are human traits. Be prepared, or be a victim.

Dam, you got super triggered. I totally believe you've been bullied. I don't think you defeated your bully, however. Not on your own, for sure. Not with an ass whooping.

Just because you think can get away with it, doesn't mean you actually will or make it right. Being driven by revenge makes it harder for you to see the big picture when it comes to stuff like bullying.

People who don't want to get physical aren't pansies. They just know that life is better when you avoid conflict, physical or otherwise. I'm sure that if that person was in a situation where they were being beaten, they would do what they can to escape.

And I don't give a shit whether I "defeated" a bully. And most people who've actually been bullied can attest to the same thing. If you're truly in a situation where you are near powerless, then winning doesn't matter. Getting away does.

All are arguments and rationale of the weak and defeated. We didn't click for a reason. We're just wired too differently.

Getting away is fine if it's the only option, but make no mistake; retreat is a last resort. Do you feel satisfied knowing that you fled while your abuser got off with what they did to you? Personally I'd be furious with myself knowing that I was too weak to overcome them. You should have made yourself stronger. No, it wasn't impossible.

Never bend to the will of tyranny, stand up to it.
When you're forced to bend, live every moment with the intention of becoming strong enough to strike back. I believe you know what abuse is, so you should also know that you are not a free person when you live in fear. Running doesn't solve the problem. It only treats the symptoms, it doesn't cure it. You have to overcome abuse to be free of it and its lingering affects. If possible, you should confront whoever they were one day.

You should sign up for a serious martial arts class with the intention of competing to win. Try jiu jitsu or an mma gym, not some candy ass academy. It'll change your life.

Retreat should always be option one, while you fight back only if necessary. Trust me, if I wanted to, I could've beat their ass. But if I had, they would've had an even bigger grudge. Fighting causes more problems than it solves most of the time. I also would've been in as much trouble as them, and I would've been in a worse place than I was. And yes, the problem was solved. I got away from it with the intention of getting away and telling an authority. Once that happens, no amount of physical strength can help them. Punches hurt temporarily, but a history of abuse and bullying lasts for a long time. It may seem merciful not to kick someone's ass, but trust me. That guy is gonna regret what he did when he applies for college or a job. I hope he has changed, and I hope that he has found the error in his ways. I hope that if I ever cross paths again, that we can put the past behind us and at least live peacefully. But make no mistake: just because I ran, doesn't mean I lost.

Dam straight!

Still a bully. Na na na.

He never made such a claim

You don't get to that level, without being a vindictive, egotistical, bully that wants it his way or no way.

Dam straight!

Security Clearances should not be required once an individual is fired, retired, or otherwise leaves his or her post. Like the rest of us former military/governmental slugs, our clearances were revoked the day we separated. Unless of course, they are still working for the government despite their "departure" from office, but that is a whole other conspiracy theory.

The problem is that his clearance was taken away thanks to him voicing his political opinions.

Think responsibly.

Unless you can back up that claim, then there really isn't a debate to be had.

It’s been widely reported that he voted for and supported a communist cause and candidate so I don’t need to back it up oh and yea his testimony in front of the house intelligence committee broadcast on cspan in March of 2017 has nothing to do with it either! Look it up yourself get educated!!!

What candidate would that be?

Brennan voted for Gus Hall, the presidential candidate for the Communist Party USA, in 1976.

Source?

The Washington post, USA Today, New York Times, snopes, there’s tons of sources do your own research and educate yourself!! Don’t expect others to do that for you!

I was just curious about the source, I wasn't trying to make any claims. Although, I will say this. That happened in 1976. He was in college at the time. Obviously, that doesn't look good, but it was decades ago, and he was open about the decision he made when he took the CIA polygraph test. If he was actually trying to topple the foundations of the country, or something equally ridiculous, then he wouldn't have been so open about the decision. Obviously, that doesn't make the choice to do so better, but it has little to do with security clearances now. He was clearly good enough to be accepted into the CIA and eventually become director, despite voting decisions he made when he was in college.

Good points, but think of it like this, people are creatures of habit and usually don’t change fundamentally, and you’re probably right I don’t honestly think he was looking to topple our foundations but what if... with that type of ideology and being in the position of control... how many investigations went by the way side or got started with little to no reasonable grounds? Etc... the CIA by law cannot surveil private us citizens but he ordered it to be done, what else did he do that either no one questioned or hasn’t caught onto yet?

You basically need a level of security clearance for any government job in DC. Plus, current CIA employees can no longer consult him for any issues that he may know how to deal with.

Oh, look, John Brennan can write more than 280 characters at a time without any spelling, punctuation, or grammar errors.

John Brennan: President Trump’s Claims of No Collusion Are Hogwash https://nyti.ms/2OERKmC

Perhaps. You know what he can't do? Anything classified, lel.

The reason why retired intelligence agents retain their security clearance is that they might need to return to active service in the event of war it an attack. You Trumpers just like stigginit to anybody who doesn't toe the line, but this is actually bad for America. Not that you care, of course.

That was meant to be "war or attack"

Brennan isn't exactly who I want leading the defense in case of an attack anyhow, so no huge loss there.

Why not? Because he voiced political opinions? He was a competent CIA director, and having help from anyone is good in wartime

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