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I think you should submit that if you haven't already. That's pretty good!

We fought for, and still do, our freedom with guns. So why are people trying to take them away?

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i'm on the left but...
i'd say i have to agree.

what i mean is that i'm agreeing with what he's saying BENEATH the sarcasm.

Sorry, I know I shouldn't joke about this, and you make a very good point :D

Las Vegas, 50 dead and 500 shot, Sandy Hook over 20 dead kids, 30,000 gun deaths a year and people think the answer is more guns. That is liking saying the cure for cancer, is more cancer.... Americans are insane and still the body count of dead kids in schools keeps rising.

I think there was a little more to the Vegas shooting than I lone gunman. But one armed guard at the school entrance could’ve prevented Sandy Hook. The only thing that stops bad guys with guns is good guys with guns. The guns are there, and not going away. Unless the govt, sends the military out to round them all up, but then we have Nazi Germany all over again. And nobody wants that.

Very true! Personally, I would like it if guns ceased to exist (both because of their lethal potential, and because I'm a sword enthusiast), but I know that such a dream is unrealistic. The next best thing is good people with guns

Well it seems America is not very good at deciding who these good people with guns should be judging on the amount of gun murders each year.

I upped ya because you see things realisticly... What swords do like???

My favorite swords are the gladius, the small sword, the rapier, and the European long sword. What ones do you like?

Always been a fan of the Katana, Marine Scimitar, and the Naval Cutless. I have a civil war era Cavalry Saber.

Pics.... or it didn't happen

You know, your comment tells so much about tha American point of view about this.
In your scenario having people with guns inside a school, shooting at students and teacher is not only possible, is... Normal.
For a non - USA citizen it's simply incredible to read this. It's very sad.
I can't stop thinking that this can't be a normal scenario though; my idea of a civilized society pictures the school as a learning place, where a frustrated student seeks help and can get fought in a fist fight, worst case scenario.

The ugly truth is that in USA a young problematic man can find a gun wherever he likes and kill random people in his own school!

This is... Terrible.

There was a time when I could take my shotgun to school during squirrel season, leave it in the office, and then hunt all the way home. This was about 1986 and I was in 7th grade at the time and nobody thought about doing any of the stupid crap we see nowadays.

Yes, it is. It’s not normal. There was a time in this country when they actually taught proper gun use and safety in high schools. (Rifles, not handguns). And there were no kids shooting up schools. It was unheard of and insane to even think that.

So as a non- USA citizen as you put it, you're just another person who thinks they can tell the rest of the world how to live, right. And with your citizenship statement pretty much makes your points and opinions a moot point.

I can understand you are all living in an ideal past that seems so perfect in your mind... But guys...

While you were answering here telling me I can't understand your way of life the 18th school massacre was happening in USA... In less than 2 months.

Again... This is incredible... This is terrible.

You are (involuntary) like that mothers that live in denial, so while they pass all the things me defending and justifying their men, they rape their children under the same roof.

It's incredibly sad.

FYI - here is what research looks like....
1/4/2018 -Seattle, WA -New Start High School -a gunshot was fired into
the window of New Start High School where no injuries were reported
1/10/2018 -Sierra Vista, AZ -Coronado Elementary School -completed
suicide
1/10/2018 -San Bernardino, CA -California State University, San
Bernardino -a gun was fired and a bullet hit a building on a Southern
California college campus, but there were no reports of any injuries
1/10/2018 -Denison, TX -Grayson College - A college student fired a
weapon belonging to an adviser, believing it wasn't loaded. No injuries
were reported
1/15/2018 -Marshall, TX -Wiley College -A college student confused a
training weapon with a real gun and accidentally fired a bullet through
a classroom wall at Grayson College in Denison, Texas. No one was hurt
1/20/2018 -Winston-Salem, NC -Wake Forest University -one college
student fatally shot by another college student after an arguement
1/22/2018 -Italy, TX -Italy High School - HS student shot (non fatal) by
other HS student
1/22/2018 -Gentilly, LA -The NET Charter High School -Shot(s) fired from
outside a school, student was taken to Children's Hospital for treatment
of a superficial wound to his elbow, but it is not clear if that wound
stems from the shot(s) fired
1/23/2018 -Benton, KY -Marshall County High School -HS student kills 2
HS students and injures 14 others
1/25/2018 -Mobile, AL -Murphy High School -HS student firing the handgun
in the air
1/26/2018 -Dearborn, MI -Dearborn High School -Shots fired in Dearborn
High School parking lot; no injuries reported
1/31/2018 -Philadelphia, PA -Lincoln High School -32yo man killed self
outside Lincoln High School in Mayfair
2/1/2018 -Los Angeles, CA -Salvador B. Castro Middle School -accidental
discharge 2 students injured
2/5/2018 -Oxon Hill, MD -Oxon Hill High School -A 17-year-old student
was shot in the school parking lot after hours, Police said they do not
believe this is a random act
2/5/2018 -Maplewood, MN -Harmony Learning Center -Third-grader fires
Minnesota cop's holstered gun; no one hurt, no injuries
2/8/2018 -New York, NY -The Metropolitan High School -gunshot was fired
in a Bronx school, bullet hole foun in the floor of a classroom inside
the school, no injuries
2/14/2018 -Parkland, FL -Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School -17 killed
others injured

You need to check your facts, I even double checked what you were spouting from one of your own sort of gun control websites. The 18 'massacres' that you quoted included suicides and unintentional discharges. Based on the abridged descriptions of what was included in the 18 on the list showed only 7 with the word "attack" in the description. Seriously though, do some research and get your facts straight so conversations can be based on fact rather than exaggerated or misconstrued information.
https://everytownresearch.org/school-shootings/

It's incredible that you need to do specifications about... People with guns inside a school.

Let's do the sana thing in Europe: ok let's see.
Number of people with guns in school: 0.

Oh, that was easy.

So, you just had 7 school massacres in 2018. Ok, and tell me: what is a concerning number of innocent killed in a school for you?

10? 50? 100?

Here is... 1.

If you want to argue facts, then argue facts, stop spreading misinformation and regurgitating biased information. Get your definitions of words you are using correct and we all can have a civil discussion. So your definition of a massacre is 1 person killed, is that correct? Cause without definitions and facts, no civil discussion can come about.

Let me reverse the question: in your perception one person killed by a gun inside a school can be considered not a big deal?
Here in Europe it would be on national newspapers.

Zero is acceptable, I never said otherwise. I asked about your definition of a massacre since some of the school shooting you cited were suicides with firearm that happened to occur on a school premises.

You cite 30,000 "Gun Deaths"... You ignore that 20,000 of those are SUICIDE...

I haven't ignored that. The research tells us those 20,000 successful suicides across the US are not influenced by mental health or any other factor, but the availability of firearms

Someone who is determined to take their own life, are going to do just that. The method is irrelevant, because to them the outcome is all that is important.

The only reason 'firearm-suicides" are more 'successful' is because there is less margin for error...

- You try to hang yourself and you rig the noose wrong you choke instead of the broken neck that comes with an executioner caliber Slipknot... someone could find you before you expire.

You take your car for a ride in a closed garage, someone smells the CO and opens a door.

You Take Pills, it takes a while to kick in, and if you don't take enough they won't work anyway. (FFS studies have also show that putting Pain Meds in Blister Packs,instead of X-count Bottles reduces the risk of Overdose)

You slit your wrists and either "you cross the road" (instead of going down the lane)and the wounds don't bleed enough... You do it in a bath tub, the water isn't hot enough to speed flow, someone finds you.

take a short step off of a tall building, you may not be tall enough or you land on something that 'saves you'

To be Crass, you shoot yourself, unless you have horrid aim, you're dead before the smell of cordite has dissipated and even if you survive the initial trauma of Lead vs Flesh, unless some one was on site and heard the shot they won't get to you in time to do anything...

Goodpoint.

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I'm not going to get into politics with this. The only thing I will say is that some lawmakers INSIST that people never have to defend themselves with firearms in our country.

I love in a border state and we are currently experiencing an oil boom. People are coming here from all over the country to work and as a result things sometimes get a little crazy.

I was recently at a gas station at night and I was carrying my Shield .40 concealed, as usual. I parked my truck at the pump and walked inside to pay for my gas. A guy beside the door asked if I had any change, to which I responded sorry, I don't carry cash, and went inside. When I came out he asked me again if I had any spare change. Sorry, I don't carry cash. I was about halfway to my truck and I heard somebody yell behind me. I looked and Dude and his buddy (he wasn't there before) were walking toward me. He said, "That's a nice truck, I bet you do carry cash!" Buddy had his hands in his jacket pockets. Since they were between me and the doors I couldn't get past them to get back inside the store, and if they rushed me I couldn't get inside my truck and start it before they got to me. I told them to back up, I don't have cash, and they kept coming. By my estimate if they rushed me I had about three seconds to make a decision.

I raised my shirt and put my hand on my gun and told them to go away. I figured this is it, my worst nightmare is going to happen.

They saw my gun and took off. So yeah, it does happen. Judging from their body language and the way they were talking to me, and the fact that Buddy had his hands in his pockets, they did not intend to shake my hand and wish me a good evening. I wasn't forced to shoot to defend myself but I believe that just being armed may have saved my life.

True story.

Exactly

Except all those military types in Fort Hood who all had weapons and training. 13 dead. Of Fort Lauderdale airport that has armed security, many dead, or the armed officer outside of the school in Florida, he didn't save the 17 dead kids.

All Military installations are a gun free zone, just like any federal building. Same with the airport, gun free zone.... same as the school, gun free zone.....
See anything in common with all those places....?
And as for the School Resource Officer (Deputy) in Florida, that is called Dereliction of Duty and I am almost certain criminal charges will not be far behind for him.

How you liking the Shield? I have all 3. 45 is really nice. It's my 2nd choice for ETC, next to my 1911. Only thing I don't like is the sights are a boooger to drift out.

I really like it. I was choosing between the XDS 9 and the Shield .40. The XDS was a little more concealable but it was a 9, and I'm not a huge fan. The Shield was a little bulkier but it felt more natural in my hand.

My first trip to range with the Shield 40, I x ringed a 50rd box of ammo. I was very pleased!