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winston churchill | "THE FACT THAT IN MOHAMMADAN (ISLAMIC) LAW, EVERY WOMAN MUST BELONG TO SOME MAN AS HIS ABSOLUTE PROPERTY, EITHER AS A CHILD, A WIFE, OR A CO | image tagged in winston churchill | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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13 ups, 1 reply
We should stop forgiving bad behavior , because "it's their way".
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9 ups
They can have it "their way", over there...not over here!
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9 ups, 1 reply
Better put on my fireman uniform for the flame war to ensue.
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SOMEONE BETTER CALL THE TROLLINATOR | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
It's some good shit down there :)
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Third World Skeptical Kid Meme | AND LETTING THESE PEOPLE INTO AMERICA IS GOING TO MAKE AMERICA BETTER? | image tagged in memes,third world skeptical kid | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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X All The Y Meme | DEPORT THE MUSLIMS ALL EVERY STINKING ONE | image tagged in memes,x all the y | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
Send them ALL back to their stinking Third World crap holes. Do it now.
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There's this magic thing called "Freedom of Religion" in the first amendment which makes that unconstitutional and illegal.
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i.imgflip.com/1jkz1n.jpg (click to show)
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8 ups, 2 replies
Even though it does
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8 ups, 1 reply
Please cite the verse(s) in the Bible where it said that all women should belong to some man as his ABSOLUTE property, and then you'll have a valid argument.

I will also admit if I'm wrong, so feel free.
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8 ups, 2 replies
Does the Koran state that "all women should belong to some man as his ABSOLUTE property"? Like you said, if I'm wrong, I'll admit it.

In Deuteronomy 22:28-29, it says that if a man **pes a virgin, he has to pay her father some money, and she is forced to marry her rapist. In that day and culture, women were the property of their fathers, until they became married, then they became property of their husbands. The rapist had to pay the victim's father because by raping her, he had made her unmarryable, and her father couldn't get any money for her. Numerous other verses speak of a woman being subject to her husband, having to submit to her husband, etc. It's very clear throughout the Bible that women were not treated as or seen as equal to men.
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7 ups, 1 reply
John 8:1-11
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6 ups, 4 replies
If you want to get really technical, God **ped Mary. She never had a say in the matter. An angel just told her "you're pregnant now". Imagine going up to a woman you don't know and telling her you made her pregnant without her knowledge (by drugging her, for example). You think she would say "oh, okay, that's fine". No, you'd be arrested and charged with **pe. Because it wasn't consentual. And Abraham and Jacob **ped their servent women because they, too, could not have said no. They were slaves. They had no say in the matter. Read Genesis. Does it say anywhere that slaves could refuse the sexual advances of their owners? Of course not.
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8 ups, 1 reply
There are a couple of things really wrong with this comment.
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4 ups, 2 replies
I know! It should have more upvotes :)
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5 ups, 1 reply
I'm guessing you didn't make the comment to get upvotes.
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3 ups
True
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5 ups, 1 reply
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4 ups, 4 replies
Upvotes mean people agree with me. And it works the other way, too. If a conservative meme makes the front page and gets 100-150+ upvotes, the person who made that meme would feel like they "won".
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7 ups, 1 reply
Actually my fan club of trolls will upvote anyone who I argue with no matter what they say and downvote me regardless.

I get downvoted into hidden status talking about DragonballZ.
5 ups
It's a safe assumption that the majority of people, at least, who upvote me do so because they agree with me. And I don't downvote someone simply because I disagree with them.

Upvote btw :)
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0 ups
Not me, I upvote everyone.
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2 ups, 1 reply
I don't think God really **ped Mary. It's not like God kidnapped Mary and stuck his p**is into her. Assuming what we know about God, he probably snapped his fingers and BOOM! Mary was pregnant. As for Abraham's and Jacob's sex slaves, that was the norm back then. I'm not excusing it, but you have to take into context what the world was like in Biblical times. (not to mention, Genesis is Old Testament which is Judaism, not Christianity)
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Also look at Marys response when God said she would be pregnant
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You say that Jacob and Abraham **ped their handmaids? Whether they did or not, the Bible doesn't say God agreed with what they did. Just because something happened in the Bible doesn't mean God condones it. The Bible also talks about people committing Sodomy, sacrificing their babies and worshipping golden calves.
Be careful of the context. Read the WHOLE Bible. It tells one great big wonderful story! Also be aware of the real meanings, not just what you think of when you hear a word. It's well worth studying and looking up to get God's message.
As for the law about rapists in Deuteronomy, God isn't naive and He didn't assume that **pe would never happen, so He provided instructions to teh Israelites on what to do when it DID happen. He never said, "It's ok to **pe as long as you pay money."
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Even if what you said is true (which it isn't) Mary was 14. That's a HUGE difference compared to a 6 or even 9 year old girl. Mary was post-pubescent, meaning that scientifically speaking she was a woman.

I realize you love to play these little games, but how seeing as how this meme had literally NOTHING to do with Christianity, how about we just compare Jesus to Muhammed?

https://youtu.be/RwluC6GoKLE
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7 ups, 2 replies
You need to be parachuted right into the middle of an ISIS camp in Syria. Like today, if at all possible. Or perhaps dropped into a North Korea labor camp as an acceptable substitute. Only then will you be properly educated as to how noble the Christian faith is compared to the true barbarians around the world.
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6 ups, 1 reply
Oh, is this a picture from this century? Maybe you should quit basing your religious bigotry against Christians on days long gone because people today have evolved... unlike the death cult of Islam in 2017.
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9 ups, 2 replies
So atrocities done in the past don't matter, or don't "count"? The century in which they happened is totally irrelevant, because they still happened.

If Christians have evolved, why do some Christians today support and praise violence against LGBT people and abortion clinics? ...and liberals, apparently (like you seem to)
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6 ups, 3 replies
You make valid points,
But the problem is you're excusing modern day islamic backwardness and repression and atrococities with the same commited by Jews and Christians centuries, even millenia ago.
You neglect to account the fact that in that world, Moslems were contempories who lived near or even amongst Jews and Christians, and while the latter two have evolved past that barbarism, islam has not, especially amongst sunnis who are in fact, from Arabia to Turkey, regressing away from modernity, at least socially.

It is 2017 all ever the world. Technology, communication, modernization, etc is an aspect of life everywhere on this planet, even with reindeer herders in obscure corners of Siberia.
Moslems are not isolated, trapped in backwardness, they are a part of this world. Heck, until the 16th Century they lead it.

Rape, homophobia, enslavement - by your argument, do we allow them because not only did Jews, Christians, and Moslems do so in the past, Moslems do so today?
Do we just give up and stone so-called 'sinners' to death because we used to and some still do so now?

Three with past wrongs don't make it right.
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6 ups, 1 reply
I appreciate your respectful reply. I don't make excuses for atrocities committed by Muslims. I abhor atrocities committed by anyone, anywhere. You're correct when you point out that many Muslims still hold to traditions and customs that other people have moved past. And they need to move past them, too, I believe. Obviously someone who lives in Afghanistan or Pakistan would probably see nothing wrong with the way they do things, even though that way is brutal and archaic.
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You might want to have a look at:

A Mosque in Munich: Nazis, the CIA, and the Rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in the West by Ian Johnson

(I have yet to read it myelf, but have it stored away with a bunch of stuff for when I move, haha)

It sheds some light on the roots the current situation, which wasn't always so. We had spurred the current trend as tool against the Soviets, and the fear of Nasserism spreading. This and Wahhabism are at the root of the reggresion from modernity I mentioned.
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3 ups
^ nomadic* reindeer herders

PS: I just wanted to point that out, I respect your opinion and appreciate your intentions. I don't want to turn this into another bombardment of arguments at you, since you already are getting too much of that.
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2 ups, 2 replies
There's no sense in talking to him. I've told him what you just said a million times.

He just likes to try to bait arguments when someone criticizes Islam to deflect off of their atrocities and barbarism.
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2 ups
I told him what I had to say, and he told me what he had to say, and he did so respectully. He even said he agreed with a point I was making.
I'm perfectly fine with that.

I've argued the issue on other sites, and against those whose sole argument consists of merely saying I'm wrong. At least Octavia cites facts to back his views on the topic.

I was being trolled on this site last week because of this subject by 1redshoe and AnotherWorldView, who are one and the same person. And that was just some maniacal incoherent yapping.
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This is our only encounter that I remember. It was not negative. It was respectful.
Please note what I said at the bottom:

"I was being trolled on this site last week because of this subject by 1redshoe and AnotherWorldView, who are one and the same person. And that was just some maniacal incoherent yapping."

Look at both their memes. They are not right wing, they are radical left.
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8 ups, 3 replies
Mother of God, you are stupid.
1) Compare 2017 Christianity with 2017 Islam and maybe you'd have a leg to stand on.
2) Please tell me how tolerant Islam is of homosexuals and women in 2017?

Christians don't bake a cake for a gay couple and you lose your mind. Muslims routinely kill women and homosexuals and you make excuses. Yes, that kind of stupid needs to be dropped into a North Korean labor camp.
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6 ups, 4 replies
The Bible says what it says. Just because most Christians today don't do what their religion tells them to do doesn't mean the Bible doesn't say to do it.

I never said that Islam (I assume you mean in the Middle East) is tolerant of homosexuals. Muslims in the US aren't running around killing gays left and right, though.

Show me a screenshot of a time when I made excuses for Muslims killing women or homosexuals. If you're claiming I make excuses for them killing women or gays, show the proof.
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4 ups, 1 reply
Bro you better back up, u bein double teamed.
3 ups
If your adversaries are weak, it doesn't matter how outnumbered you are.
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5 ups, 1 reply
So what? There's over 10 Islamic countries where gays are imprisoned or executed.

A Muslim killed 49 gays in one shooting, shortly after a Muslim Imam spoke at a mosque in Orlando mind you, calling for gays to be executed.

There is NOTHING you can compare to Christians here in terms of a targeted attack on gays in US history.
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Homosexual activity was illegal in many states up until 2003, when Lawrence v Texas ruled them all unconstitutional. I'm sure those laws weren't passed by Muslims. Homosexuals could be imprisoned for almost all of US history, until very recently. And that's just prison time. I can't imagine what the punishment was under the gov't of the Puritans.
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I'm not talking about hypothetical scenarios, I'm talking about reality.

The countries I mentioned have ALL either imprisoned or executed gays. Not just COULD have. They HAVE.
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4 ups
You seem agitated that we countered your bullshit with logic and facts like usual.
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7 ups, 1 reply
How about, F**K all humans. The end.
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7 ups, 1 reply
You say Christianity is noble and other people are barbarians, right after saying you WANT to see me dropped into an ISIS camp? Were you born this oblivious or is it the result of much practice?

Pointing out violence done by other religions doesn't wash the blood off Christianity's hands.
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Your particularly obnoxious brand of stupidity and offensive commentary deserves exactly that type of treatment. We will not be browbeaten and cowered by an ignorant bigot like you that wants to argue a timeline in both directions. So yeah, an ISIS camp for you.

Funny how you STILL don't pick up on the fact you have ISIS camps in 2017 and your pathetic arguments are based on events from 1000 years ago or more.
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8 ups, 2 replies
My commentary is offensive? That's funny, coming from you. I'm not the one:

--saying ALL Muslims should be deported
--saying liberals (or conservatives) should be killed
--saying that people I disagree with should be dropped into an ISIS camp or North Korea

I'm not trying to browbeat anyone. I'm just pointing out faulty arguments and blatant hypocrisy.

Besides, I never denied that ISIS camps exist.
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You use any excuse to berate Christianity because you are a bigot. We aren't going to just sit there and take your ridiculous arguments that Christian Old Testament verse is the moral equivalent of Muslims going into a Orlando nightclub and shooting 49 people in 2016.
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4 ups, 2 replies
You are offensive. You are stupid. You are unrelenting in both. You are an unapologetic mentally unhinged bigot and should be dropped into an ISIS camp for your reeducation. ASAP
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9 ups, 3 replies
Congratulations, you just described yourself
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7 ups, 1 reply
XD
4 ups
January 2017: California wants to leave the union
February 2017: Their dams crack and California is sunk into the ocean.
God listens.
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4 ups, 1 reply
Took me 5 minutes to get to your comment.
3 ups
I don't agree at all with what Octavia's saying, but ninja is a troll and I don't take kindly to trolls. Purposely going around to every liberal meme to piss people off and insulting every liberal he meets is trolling. And he wonders why he's getting downvoted into comment purgatory.
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Yi.kes :I
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6 ups, 3 replies
Okay, you seriously need to f**k off Ninja, and so does renegade_sith.

People have their opinions, you have yours and they have theirs.

If you disagree, DON'T F**KING SAY ANYTHING

And if I'm correct. YOU, ninja2016, are the one who started all of this with Octavia by telling her to get dropped off into an ISIS camp or North Korean labor camp ( which in either case they would be killed)

You're telling them to go die because you didn't like what they said.

Also, everything they said is factual. Those verses from the Bible are actually in the Bible, but it's not like we do that stuff today. Sure there are some hardcore religious people that may believe that stuff, but that's THEIR problem.

She isn't bashing Christianity, she's stating facts.

You can stop calling her out, too. I haven't seen a**holes like you in a while, accusing them of being an arrogant know it all (in the post above this reply)

This sh*t isn't worth getting angry over.

People have opinions

Deal with it and move on
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2 ups
Oh, I like Renegade tho. But yeah Ninja ain't fun.
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5 ups, 1 reply
And by your logic, shouldn't octavia have "said nothing and moved on" when he saw this meme?
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4 ups, 1 reply
You have a point there :) if it applies to ninja then it applies to me as well. The truth is, it doesn't apply to either one of us. We are both entitled to voice our opinions.
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2 ups, 1 reply
Octavia is an adult man.
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1 up, 1 reply
Thanks for telling me.

In all honesty that name is a little confusing.
1 up
Yeah. Octavia also drives trucks and has a beard.
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5 ups
Muhammed married and **ped a little girl. Married, and [email protected] a little girl.

Like imagine a kindergartener. If you can't picture what that is there was a movie called "Kindergartner Cop" with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Now, imagine if Arnold had married and **ped a little girl from his class instead of all the hijinks from the movie.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MUHAMMED DID YOU F**KS!!!
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Actual picture of me telling my wife she was my property.
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Thank you, PizzaScience
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