How California liberals can make good on their promise

How California liberals can make good on their promise | Vowed to leave the country if Trump became president Wants California to secede from the union so she doesn't have to move | image tagged in memes,college liberal | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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25 ups, 3y,
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PLEASE MOVE | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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PLEASE MOVE | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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6 ups, 3y,
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5 ups, 3y,
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MOVES OUT OF CALIFORNIA IN SEARCH OF BETTER JOB MARKET COMPLAINS ABOUT RULES IN HER TOWN, AND GENTRIFIES IT TO BECOME LIKE CALIFORNIA | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
I think this is why many states hate them..Because of people like this!
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One Does Not Simply Meme | THUS THE SAYING... "PLEASE DON'T CALIFORNICATE OREGON" ALAS... TOO LATE. | image tagged in memes,one does not simply | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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3 ups, 3y,
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Yea I agree, Portland is a lot like San Francisco
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1 up, 3y
Sad :(
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2 ups, 3y
lol
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21 ups, 3y,
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10 ups, 3y,
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Awesome! Are you from Colorado? I live in Centennial.
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4 ups, 3y
I don't live in Colorado, but I have been to your beautiful state.
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7 ups, 3y,
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I'd imagine Colorado River is drier than the desert right now! Hollywood and political liberals are such HYPOCRITES. They make documentaries, speeches,etc. to promote climate change and water conservation, yet they use 20 times more water than the average californian household. The most was from a Bel-Air household, which used 11,000,000 gallons last year!
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6 ups, 3y,
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If we didn't water our lawns and crops, what would there be for the illegal immigrants to mow and pick?
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6 ups, 3y,
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Funniest response I've seen since the election.
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3 ups, 3y
Thanks john!
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6 ups, 3y
lol, we wanna play :)
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13 ups, 3y,
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In the Civil War people fought to keep it the union. In the comments I have read so far on this issue the only people who are against this is the Californians who don't want to secede. Everyone else seems to be ok with letting them go. To which I must say I am in agreement! If they want out, let them go! I am sick and tired of reading about how degenerates are tearing this country apart.
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14 ups, 3y,
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Let. Them. Leave.
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11 ups, 3y,
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8 ups, 3y,
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Referring to the riots and hateful lashing out about the election results
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11 ups, 3y,
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5 ups, 3y,
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(Are you posting this one? I think I would.)
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2 ups, 3y,
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I did but I think imgflip shadow-banned it... imgflip.com/i/1e42pb
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2 ups, 3y
That's too bad. I "pinned it" (twice) and posted it on fb too.
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2 ups, 3y
A trophy like this?
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12 ups, 3y,
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#calexit... PFFFT!!!
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14 ups, 3y,
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9 ups, 3y,
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The Feds would wind up making a HUGE shift to the right if California DID secede (the law of unintended consequences rears its ugly head). Let's look at other consequences...

If all the Liberals were to move to Cali, they'd have a HELL of a population problem, MANY of them leeches of the welfare system. The system would collapse within a few years, and they'd come crawling back with their tails between their legs and having learned the lessons learned by the former USSR.

Maybe it's NOT such a bad idea, after all!

In any case, I think #calexit represents further proof that Obama contributed GREATLY to the disunity of our nation.
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6 ups, 3y,
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It's amazing how many Californians fear whats going to happen to their community under President Trump. They should be more concerned about what's going to happen with legalized recreational marijuana.
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2 ups, 3y,
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Actually, being Libertarian and a strong believer in MORE personal freedoms (though I DO believe in more personal responsibility, as well), I'm all for legalizing marijuana...

**Unpopular Opinion Puffin** ...and ALL recreational pharmaceuticals. I believe that it would be safer for society in the long run than the war on drugs has been.

I believe that WE should be able to use whatever prescription drugs we want to, and it's up to us to hear what our doctors recommend, but not to let them dictate what prescriptions we are allowed. I was on a particular set of medications by one doctor when I was in Oklahoma, but when I came to Michigan and started seeing a doctor here, he insisted on changing EVERYTHING (even though the regimen I was on was WORKING). My questions and complaints fell on deaf ears.
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4 ups, 3y,
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The main problem with using whalever drugs we want is that people want to sue somebody when the drugs cause adverse effects. If a doctor is going to be held responsible for the drugs he or she prescribes they need to have some control over it.
As for recreational marijuana, we've already seen hoe iresponsible people aww with alcohol. So why would we want to throw another legal imparement into the mix?
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5 ups, 3y,
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re prescription drugs: That's where the personal responsibility comes in. If YOU are responsible for your own decisions, whether you do what the doctor recommends or not, then who would you sue?

re alcohol and marijuana: Yes, but we've also seen the effects on society from criminalizing alcohol. We are seeing those same effects with the war on drugs: gangland-type violence and executions, the introduction of potentially dangerous substances to "cut" the product with no regulation, and other negative effects.

Then on the positive side of legalizing alcohol, we have tax revenue, the ingredients are known and documented, the effects are well-known throughout society. I wouldn't be able to tell you what ANY side effects of heroin, meth, ecstasy, or any currently illegal drug are. I know how much alcohol a person can consume, there are tests to see just how high your alcohol level is, and I know the physical side effects of consuming alcohol.

There's no question of what other substances may be in that whiskey bottle, but we've had a rash of heroin overdoses in the southeast Michigan/northwest Ohio area, because nobody knows what's in the heroin being sold on the streets. Legalize them, regulate them, tax the f**k out of them.

Can you imagine if the current street value of illegal drugs had the same percentage of taxation that alcohol and tobacco has? Did some Googling to try to answer that...

According to http://www.drugpolicy.org/drug-war-statistics, "Tax revenue that drug legalization would yield annually, if currently-illegal drugs were taxed at rates comparable to those on alcohol and tobacco: $46.7 billion" I think it would be more, that they're underestimating it because their agenda is to keep them illegal.

Also, there's the money we WOULDN'T be spending on police involvement, trials/court proceedings, incarcerations, etc. The website http://www.drugsense.org/cms/wodclock says it's $40+ billion annually ($15 billion spent by the federal government, $25+billion spent by state and local governments).

For the record, I don't smoke, I don't drink, and I don't use any illegal drugs. I don't use any prescription narcotics, either.
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5 ups, 3y,
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Good argument and I gave a presentation on drugs in college . What I found crazy is the legal drugs cause way more harm than illegal drug for example tobacco kills more people than illegal drug , alcohol , cancer and a lot of other thing combined. Which is why I also support legalization across the board for the same reasons you have already stated
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6 ups, 3y,
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You're forgetting that we used to think tobacco was safe. Now insurance companies, employers and the government are spending millions trying to get people to kick the habit. The only season we don't have the same statistics on marijuana is because it hasn't been studied enough. Today's users are the lab rats.
As for legalizing to put drug cartels out of business, that won't work. The cartels are already pushing more harmful drugs like meth and heroin. What will we do then, legalize those drugs too?
As for taxation, the net increase in tax revenue will be consumed by the additional demand on emergency services and child protection services to take care of all the kids that parents neglect because they're too high. It's like trying to justify legalized prostitution, gambling, dog fighting, etc. Sure, there might be more tax income but at what costs?
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3 ups, 3y,
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Read the comment before mine I support his arguement also with all we know about tobacco it is still legal and kills more people than anything else
4 ups, 3y
I read it, just didn't want to reply twice.
Since marijuana is still illegal by federal law there's still time to stop it from becoming a killer like tobacco. Also, tobacco doesn't impair judgement and reaction time like marijuana so it's less of a DUI hazard. Yet insured also increase rates for smokers because of distractions from ashes and fire from smoldering butts.
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1 up, 3y
DUI risk is very small compared to alcohol which is legal. if tobacco and alcohol can be legal with some of the worst adverse effects known to man than looking into other drugs would be logical the only thing holding it back is Miainformation and lobbyist
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1 up, 3y,
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I also believe in drug legalization. But doesn't tobacco largely kill through cancer?
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3 ups, 3y
Also repertory problems like asthma and emphysema.
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2 ups, 3y
And chronic obstructive palmanary disease both caused by tobacco
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1 up, 3y
And cardiac problems from chronic over-stimulation of the heart muscle (and possible decrease in exercise due to decreased blood oxygen).
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3 ups, 3y,
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See comments below. Didn't wan to leave you out.
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4 ups, 3y,
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Thank you.

I think smoking, with all it's health problems, should still be legal, though. The smoker should take responsibility for their own health care. Freedom AND Responsibility. I don't believe we, as a society, have enough of either.

Alcohol makes people violent. This is well-known. Marijuana does not, rather, the opposite. Yet the first is legal, the second is mostly illegal.

The War On Drugs is Prohibition all over again. It didn't work then, it doesn't work now. We failed to learn from history, so it has repeated.

There can be, as I mentioned earlier, regulation. There can be tests created to determine the level of impairment due to marijuana usage and make determinations of legal limits as with alcohol. It would still be illegal to drive under the influence, of course.
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4 ups, 3y,
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Alcohol makes SOME people violent. Makes me want to go to sleep, makes others think they're Casanova, makes others giggle, makes others chatty, makes other "brave." I just get sleepy ...

Agree on the WoD lunacy. How many trillions of dollars have we spent on it vs how many dollars could've been spent on treatment that would have had a better result?
1 up, 3y
Alcohol makes me a stand-up comedian. But I've decided to keep my brain-cells at their current number, so I gave it up. I'm not an alcoholic or anything, just a lifestyle choice.
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2 ups, 3y
Banning drugs doesn't work. They tried banning alcohol and created organized crime. The same thing happens with other drugs. I think it's better for drugs to be regulated strictly without banning them. Personally I don't do any drugs but I think things like drunk driving are the absolute worst side of drugs because it hurts other people.
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1 up, 3y,
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Fun Fact for YOU to continue to build your case: Back in the late 1800s - early 1900s BOTH Cocaine and Heroin were legal, commonly used drugs in pharmacies all across America. Seriously. When you get a chance, look up "cocaine in early American medicine" and I'll tell you one without the research; heroin was commonly in cough syrup and cough drops.

Go look it up. It'll blow your mind.
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1 up, 3y
Appreciate you taking the time to comment.

My mother was a history major in college, so I grew up hearing ALL ABOUT United States and world history. Even before she went to college, she was a HUGE history buff. We would vacation to Revolutionary and Civil War battle sites, see reenactments, visit various old forts, etc.

I've read LOTS of Victorian-era novels, most notably for this topic, The Seven Percent Solution. Heroin came from Opium originally, which was also perfectly legal.

Sure, those things mess up your life, and that's the reasoning behind making them illegal. But then, so do alcohol and tobacco, and we'd never THINK of making THEM illegal. The lack of logic in all this just gives me a brain cramp.
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0 ups, 3y
It's a cocaine derivative actually but still... it's used! Had a friend with severe nasal blockage most of her life. She went to the doctor and he told her to try to breath in through her nose really quickly to get some "medicine" in there. She said she was able to breath normally for the first time in 20 years. He sent her home after poking around in her nose for a bit. She said she had SO much energy ... she cleaned the whole house, organized her bills, did some yardwork, and overall felt great but it wore off. She asked him for more of "whatever that was you had me inhale" but the doctor said, "No, that was a cocaine derivative. You can't have more but I can do surgery to get your issue resolved."

I think she would've prefered the cocaine LOL
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4 ups, 3y,
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@MamaTriedRob: There are a lot of welfare leeches in California. Just drive around Oakland, and you'll see bums with loud stereos for their cars blasting vulgar rap music.
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2 ups, 3y
Slackers are thicker in San Francisco's public parks than anywhere else I have ever been. They were more numerous than winter geese in a wheat field.
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2 ups, 3y
#CalExit #NoBacksies
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10 ups, 3y,
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I live in California. I may have to move.
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4 ups, 3y,
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Me too. Wanna go to Vegas?
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3 ups, 3y,
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I have family in Arizona, so I'd most likely move there.
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3 ups, 3y,
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Of course Arizona will need a wall on the border of two countries.
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6 ups, 3y
Let's be real. Trump is not going to get the wall proposal through Congress, even a Republican one. It's just not feasible.
A good start would be to actually enforce our existing immigration laws. Then when people have faith that the laws will be enforced, we can work on reforming them.
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1 up, 3y
Arizona is cool. Grand Canyon and all
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9 ups, 3y,
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9 ups, 3y,
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They can't. It's no longer allowed for states to secede. Also, they won't. They don't have a good enough economy to do so. The only state that could secede by itself and be successful would be Texas. It would not be in their best interest if they left either. It would cause them to lose a whole lot of support from America and any and all other good things that America gives California.
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6 ups, 3y,
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California has a very big and powerful economy (In fact the 7th largest in the world) that is unfortunately under the hands of Governor Jerry Brown.
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2 ups, 3y
Military bases vanish; highway funds vanish and lots of other things, too. The government would level all kinds of charges against them, true or false, to prevent secession. First rule of government: never give up land.
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4 ups, 3y,
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Afaik, Texas actually can secede from the US by law, due to some agreement. But as you said, it's highly unlikely and there's no reason why Texas would even be more likely than other states to actually do it.
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2 ups, 3y
Yeah. I know that. Texas is also the only state that is allowed to fly the state flag higher than the American flag.
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6 ups, 3y,
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For all of California's liberal pain-in-the-assery, this would create some very unusual problems for the rest of the union if California were to leave.

What does California have? A huge tech hub (Silicon Valley), dozens of strategic military bases, huge farming producers (yes, most of our vegetables, fruits, and nuts come from there, no pun intended).

I think that if Hillary would have won, Texas would be talking about leaving, and I would have moved to Texas just to be part of that!

Strange days indeed!
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2 ups, 3y,
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California is the 7th most money producing entity in the world.
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2 ups, 3y
Yeah, that's kinda my point.
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4 ups, 3y
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3 ups, 3y,
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Then we can just build a wall around Cali, and wait for an earthquake so we can treat them like a 3rd world country.
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1 up, 3y
Still 49% would want to stay? we all know what happens when a votes is that close....
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2 ups, 3y
this meme got alot of attention.
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2 ups, 3y
Those two comments aren't really contrasting. If you live in California and California leaves America you've technically left America.
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4 ups, 3y
Omg so many paragraphs i have to read..... In these comments
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2 ups, 3y,
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If California became independent, it would immediatly become poor. Texas would be fine if it was independent.
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1 up, 3y
California would be just fine, and so would Texas. It's the rest of the country that would be fu**ed, which I'm perfectly ok with since the entire South is populated with welfare babies of all colors.
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1 up, 3y,
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The electrical grid was a mess... they don't have their own fresh water supply... LA is a mess... Oakland is the toilet of the world. Aside from San Diego, SF, Napa region, and Monterrey, who needs California? I think the United States can do so much better without that baggage.
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2 ups, 3y,
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No offense, but I find this comment degrading. Not all of us Californians are self centered and fake, but the media wants you to believe that. However, I do agree our state politics are incredibly corrupt and The people in Sacramento do more harm than help.
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1 up, 3y,
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I have been to California plenty of times. So, I do not need nor rely on the media to formulate my own opinions about California. Also, I have family that lived and currently lives there. If you find the truth degrading, so be it. As I stated, the only redeeming regions of the state are San Diego, San Francisco, the Napa Valley region, and Monterrey (and surrounding cities). Just out of curiosity, where in California do you live? And, I know this, California needs the United States more than the United States need California. Yes, they do contribute the most towards GDP, but they also come with a lot of baggage. Do you think they could survive as an independent country? They don't even have fresh water. I guess they could start building desalinization plants and get water that way. For all I know, the process is expensive. So, good luck with that.

My comments are a direct response to the OPs post, which I am certain is a result of images like this: https://youtu.be/8PKhGjpJam8?t=49

Would you say those are the real degrading comments? I think you need to turn the TV and watch these morons that are calling for "CaliExit." You may be an OK dude, but I am sorry to say you are in the minority.
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2 ups, 3y
If California stops growing food for the rest of you losers, and saves the water it uses for all that farming (which is what most of the water is actually used for), it would do just fine.
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1 up, 3y,
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I am in beautiful South Orange County. I have a nice mountain view one direction and the beach 11 miles the other. To generalize that there are only 3 redeeming spots in California is lame. Had you even been to Big Bear / Arrowhead? How about Yosemite? Both are places not in your guide to redeeming regions. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/56/Saddleback_Mountains_and_RSM_Lake.jpg We are not all idiots here. Just our governing body and 85% of the people.
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1 up, 3y,
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I am talking about STRICTLY about areas with large concentration of people. We were, after all, talking about CALIFORNIANS; not California.
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1 up, 3y,
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yep, I am 55 miles form LA...in a densely populated area. You should visit. Orange County ROCKS!!
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1 up, 3y,
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I have more than once. It was worse each time I visited. It really sucked then and I am sure it still sucks today. I would rather visit San Diego or San Francisco than L.A. In fact, I was offered employment on both cities. I was offered a job in San Diego in 1995-96 with what used to be General Instrument in a building that now houses Qualcomm. Then, in 1998, I was offered employment in Fremont by a company that used to manufacture computer equipment for Sun Microsystems. Both times I was very tempted to accept. Thank God I didn't. Fortunately for me, Nokia came calling shortly after I turned down the job in Fremont and I have been living in Texas ever since. Would not change it for anything in the world. I have lived in several states and overseas, and Fort Worth, Texas is (overall) the best I've ever experience as far as quality of live and cost of living is concerned.
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0 ups, 3y,
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Fort Worth is very nice. My Aunt lives in Richardson. Cost of living there is awesome...but to me, nothing beats an ocean at. your finger tips - high cost of living an all.
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0 ups, 3y
I grew up in Puerto Rico. We have real oceans there. All around... no matter where in the island you grew up, beach was an alternative. I love the beach. Always have and always will. But, there are many other things in life more important than just the ocean.
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0 ups, 3y,
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@ChazthePhoenix: do you live in mission viejo? I think South Orange County is very similar to North San Diego btw.
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1 up, 3y,
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I was in San Diego on Saturday. I love SD. The coast is fun. Old towne is cool. California is awesome.
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1 up, 3y
San Diego IS awesome... I agree with you on that part.
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0 ups, 3y,
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Actually, when I posted this I hadn't seen or heard anyone who seriously wanted California to secede. It was more a jab at liberals who vowed to leave because they didn't think Trump could actually win.
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0 ups, 3y,
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Even though I don't particularly care for California (other than the cities or regions I mentioned before), I don't want California, or any other state to secede. I think it would be disastrous for the country. Even Delaware or Rhode Island are important to the country psyche generally speaking.

That said, an amicable breakup might be better in the long run than a forced marriage.... Just saying.
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1 up, 3y,
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I don't want them to leave either. I also don't expect they would seriously consider it. People's emotions are interfearing with logic right now. Once they see that a Trump presidency isn't going to be what the media and Clinton campaign has portrayed it to be they will calm down. They'll still hate Trump, ironically, no matter how good or bad he turns out to be.
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1 up, 3y,
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If Steve fu(k!ng Bannon is Trump's FIRST choice for Chief Strategist in the White House??

Then we have a LOT to be concerned about. Go ahead and do some research on that guy.

He's a millenial Joseph Goebbels.
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0 ups, 3y,
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People feared Obama's cabinet member choices too. Some were afraid he was drifting away from his anti-war stance because all of the senators and representatives he chose voted in favor of the Iraq war.

But if it makes you feel better wringing your hands over it . . .
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0 ups, 3y
You don't know anything about Steve Bannon, it appears.

Do you at least know who Goebbels is/was?
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