Send every illegal immigrant to Martha’s Vineyard!

Good for Democrat votes

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I love how they say "people of all faiths" because we all know if your faith argues that LGBT is wrong you're going to be considered hateful and will be discriminated against. It's like Uzbekistan claiming to have freedom of religion, only they persecute Christians specifically.

Like Islam? 🤔

yes, Islam is often very harsh toward LGBT people but they get a pass from the left bc they're an "oppressed minority". (So much so that even Dawkins got attacked for attacking Islam, even though he's atheist and his goal is to piss off everyone who follows any religion). They won't condemn Islam for 'LGBT discrimination' even if they're attacking Saudi Arabia and saying they're "behind the times". Saudi is a Muslim country where you will be killed for being LGBT or Christian, and you don't hear the left screaming about Islam when talking about them.

"Islam is often very harsh toward LGBT people but they get a pass from the left"

No it doesn't

"Saudi is a Muslim country where you will be killed for being LGBT"

Your holy book commands the same thing. So how are you any better? Just because you don't actually do what your book says?

yeah, they do. People like Richard Dawkins, who hate all religions, are not allowed to dump on Islam but can dump on Christianity all they want. He got in trouble for attacking Islam. And the reason he's famous is because he's anti-religious. Most people don't even know he's actually a biologist, because he writes so many books out of his field of expertise, on the subject of theology (or his twisted opinion on it).

That wasn't the point. I said one religion is under scrutiny for it and one isn't. Plus under the NT law killing is not permissible anywhere near like in the OT law. Plus, the NT says homosexuals have no place in the kingdom of God, not kill them off. The NT calls for Christians to convince people, not kill everyone who doesn't believe. The Quran, on the other hand, claiming to be an updated version of the "corrupted" Bible, goes a step further than even the OT did and says "kill unbelievers", not just homosexuals. This is why Islamic governments do not often allow freedom of religion. They often don't even permit atheism.
You also know what's weird? The same people promoting LGBT rights in the last decade also have historically been disgusted by the whole community. America is one of the only countries where left wingers are LGBT friendly. Many left wing governments aren't, and they weren't in America until they figured out they could create more victims to 1) dupe into supporting them and 2) shame the "oppressive other side" into also supporting them.

"People like Richard Dawkins, who hate all religions, are not allowed to dump on Islam"

Yes he is

"He got in trouble for attacking Islam"

And he still did it

"And the reason he's famous is because he's anti-religious"

And because he's a scientist

"Most people don't even know he's actually a biologist, because he writes so many books out of his field of expertise, on the subject of theology"

He's written way more books about biology than about religion

"Plus under the NT law killing is not permissible anywhere near like in the OT law. Plus, the NT says homosexuals have no place in the kingdom of God, not kill them off"

And were does the NT say the OT law is no longer in effect? And even if it did say that, that doesn't change the fact the the Bible does say I'm the OT that gay people should be killed.

"The Quran, on the other hand, claiming to be an updated version of the "corrupted" Bible, goes a step further than even the OT did and says "kill unbelievers", not just homosexuals"

Which Quran verse says that? Because there are also verses in the Bible that command the killing of unbelievers.

"This is why Islamic governments do not often allow freedom of religion. They often don't even permit atheism."

And for most of the past 2000 years, Christian governments were the same way. It wasn't until the values of the enlightenment took hold that freedom of religion started to actually become a thing. Did you know that until the 19th century it was illegal to be an atheist in Britain?

"The same people promoting LGBT rights in the last decade also have historically been disgusted by the whole community"

Who are you referring to?

"America is one of the only countries where left wingers are LGBT friendly"

And most of Western Europe

According to him, yes. Not to the left.

You’re right about that, and that’s why I actually respect him more than the left, because he’s at least consistent in his beliefs, unlike the left about pretty much anything.

And which are his most famous? How many biology books of his come to mind as quickly as works like “The God Delusion”? (that is unless you’re a staunch follower of his)

Several places it says that the law was updated, or that it was a tool to lead people to Christ but Christ improved the standards. Jesus said this, and Galatians talks about it. Paul talks about it quite a few times.

First off, the word “Islam” means “submission”. Second, there are three verses off the top of my head that communicate this idea:

Surah 3:151: "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve” [meaning all non-Muslims]

Surah 2:191: "And kill them [again meaning non-Muslims] wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.”

Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush.”

Such sayings aren’t even in the Old Testament.

Yes, I did know that, and I don’t agree with it. But as I said, don’t attack Christianity alone for what both Islam and Christianity have done wrong. I don’t agree with most Christian kings from the early days but then again, the Magna Carta was a response to authoritative abuse when the people felt the kings were so oppressive that the Bible didn’t even condone their behavior as an authority.

Marxists.

That’s not a bunch of countries and most of them are influenced by american ideas.

"he’s at least consistent in his beliefs, unlike the left about pretty much anything"

Try me. What beliefs am I not consistent about?

"And which are his most famous?"

The Blind Watchmaker and The Selfish Gene are pretty well known

"How many biology books of his come to mind as quickly as works like “The God Delusion”? (that is unless you’re a staunch follower of his)"

The Blind Watchmaker, The Greatest Show on Earth, The Ancestor's Tale, River out of Eden, and The Selfish Gene

"it was a tool to lead people to Christ but Christ improved the standards. Jesus said this, and Galatians talks about it. Paul talks about it quite a few times."

He didn't improve the standards, he made them worse. He made a thought crime the same as murder, for example. And the Bible never says the OT laws are no longer in effect.

"First off, the word “Islam” means “submission”."

Submission of the believer to Allah, not forcing others to submit to the religion.

"Surah 3:151: "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve” [meaning all non-Muslims]

Surah 2:191: "And kill them [again meaning non-Muslims] wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.”

Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush.” "

And how do you know those verses are meant for Muslims today?

"Such sayings aren’t even in the Old Testament"

There are passages in the OT that command killing non-believers.

"don’t attack Christianity alone for what both Islam and Christianity have done wrong"

I don't, but Christianity is the religion I have to deal with way more than Islam.

"That’s not a bunch of countries and most of them are influenced by american ideas."

Western Europe is a bunch of countries

"I love how they say "people of all faiths" because we all know if your faith argues that LGBT is wrong you're going to be considered hateful and will be discriminated against"

That is hateful. And if discrimination is a bad thing, why do so many conservative Christians want to discriminate against LGBTQ people? (answer: because they're hypocrites)

First off, I never said anything about discrimination. I said specifically if you even THINK LGBT is wrong you're considered hateful. You don't have to do a thing to be considered hateful.

But, if discriminating is a bad thing in the left's own words, why do so many left wingers want to discriminate against Christians and then act like Christians are evil for their discrimination while being completely fine with their own? (answer: because morals simply don't apply to the left)

Either be against all discrimination and call everyone out on it equally, or quit pretending you're out to help the greater good. Dont go attacking one side for discriminating when both are equally doing it. The solution to discrimination isn't discrimination. The solution to fascism isn't fascism. The solution to racism isn't racism. The solution to fire isn't fire.

"First off, I never said anything about discrimination"

I just quoted you. You said, and I quote: "I love how they say "people of all faiths" because we all know if your faith argues that LGBT is wrong you're going to be considered hateful and WILL BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST" (emphasis added)

"I said specifically if you even THINK LGBT is wrong you're considered hateful. You don't have to do a thing to be considered hateful"

Correct. But so what? If someone said interracial marriage is wrong I would consider that hateful as well. Do you think someone is only hateful if they actually act violently toward another person?

"But, if discriminating is a bad thing in the left's own words, why do so many left wingers want to discriminate against Christians and then act like Christians are evil for their discrimination while being completely fine with their own?"

Not all discrimination is bad. If discrimination is based on someone's harmful behavior or views, that's one thing. If it's based on something like skin color or sexuality, that's different.

"Either be against all discrimination and call everyone out on it equally, or quit pretending you're out to help the greater good"

I'm not against all discrimination. If someone is in a restaurant and they start using racial slurs against someone, I am fine with them being discriminated against and told to leave, because that behavior is not acceptable. But if two people are denied service at a restaurant just because they're a same sex couple, I would not be okay with that.

Clearly you missed the point. I said in that paragraph that believing LGBT is wrong will get you treated with discrimination but didn’t say anything about discriminating against LGBT people because of it. You took that out of there, but it was never said. There is a difference between discriminating against others and others discriminating against you, correct?

Plenty of people believed that once upon a time. I think that is BS bc who cares what skin color ppl are. What’s funny is that people defending LGBT rights bring up violent acts when trying to prove the other side is hateful but then try to go back and say that it’s not the only form of hate and that to even think what they’re doing is wrong is hateful. Well, how about this; since I believe God is real, and He said homosexuals have no place in God’s kingdom, I’m trying to deliver people from hellfire by saying that what they’re doing is wrong. What about that is hateful? Honestly I’m not the type that would care about what others are doing, I think people should often mind their own business about other people’s affairs (unless people’s idiocy is going to affect life around me). The only reason I would care about the LGBT debate is because God said it’s wrong and I care about people enough to see people on a dangerous path and actually want to do something about it. You want to know what real hate is? Believing in God and not confronting sin that disqualifies people from God’s kingdom. Because you’re just watching them on a dangerous path and doing nothing about it. My argument against LGBT has never been out of hate, but I sure get treated like it. And if I really didn’t care, I would just say “screw it, y’all can all go to hell for all I care” which would be the easy option for some unreasonable people I’ve had to deal with.
Now, if you don’t believe in God, that will probably sound nonsensical, but to be honest, trying to defend the Almighty Explosion with science sounds nonsensical to me so we just have different opinions on that.

So basically discrimination is okay based on certain people’s preferences. Or in simpler words, what someone decides is right and wrong. So how is that different than the “problematic religions” you keep attacking?

Who decides what is right and wrong? Who decides what is harmful? We just saw in the 2020 election that the country can’t even agree on what’s harmful. If right and wrong is up to collective humanity to decide, then there is no right and wrong. Unless one side wipes out the other and forms one world opinion. But that’s morally corrupt, and I don’t think many people rn would argue against that.

Actually consequences for your actions is not really discrimination. Discrimination is prejudicial treatment for reasons people have no control over. So being told to leave for using racial slurs is not actually discrimination. And actually, being a same sex couple is also a choice, whether this generation wants to admit it or not, and so mistreatment of same sex couples, while not always done in a decent manner, is by definition, not discrimination.

(The reason i said “not always done in a decent manner” is cause some of the things LGBT people say is discrimination against them is utter bull. Some things done to them are not okay, but they can’t tell the difference because people (especially the internet) coddle them and basically train them to be so soft that they can’t even handle other opinions. Like for example, I get hate for my religion all the time, and I could care less about other people’s opinions. I’m not going to hurl defensive insults on you for not seeing the world like I do, but i will call out BS when I see it. They on the other hand have a truckload of insults and bad characteristics to throw on you for daring to oppose them, and idk how much social media you follow, but they aren’t often very bright about how they do it. They often have low emotional security and have the “loudest roar wins the argument” philosophy. Now if I’m dealing with someone who doesn’t have any of these characteristics, I deal with them differently than I would anyone who does. And that’s not discrimination. That’s reaching out to different levels of thought. Often on here I have to argue on different intellectual levels with some people because they can’t handle too much [which isn’t an insult to them as much as it is to this gen’s eduaction system], and then other people join the discussion and act like I’m dumb bc of it. But it’s not fair to stop.)

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The liberal elite like to party at Martha's Vineyard so they shall reap what they sow by having the migrants they invited into the country crowd up their party island and those liberal elites won't be so comfortable having the unwashed masses at their island and it will show they actually don't like the very immigrants they claim to advocate for.

Notice that those migrants were sent to luxury resort Island Martha's Vineyard by Florida Governor Ron Desantis, he is giving migrants the nicest treatment one could ask for yet the left are still gonna call him a racist just because he's a republican.

No. it's because he lied to them. Promosed them food and jobs. Then dumped them off without any of that lined up ahead of time. AND made sure that they listed their mailing addresses with DHS to cities thousands of miles away. So there was no way they'd be able to make asylum hearings.

It's like he went out of his way to spend state money to screw these people (and sent a camera to record it all).

Facts are hard to understand for Democrats!

Let me know when you have some.

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Facts are hard to understand for Democrats

Neither can a lot of place, especially small towns and cities were a lot illegals also end up. That's exactly the point. Those who can handle it just admitted they don't want the illegals(Lightfoot and DC's mayors) and nobody else has the resources to handle it. And if they tried the local economy would be crushed by the sheer number of illegals alone.

Oh, yeah? What small towns are being crushed by massive waves of migrants?

All the ones that DeSantis and Abbot dumped were taken from major cities and ports.

You know, places fully capable of handling the traffic.

Nobody said that when Democrats put migrants in other cities that "couldn't handle the population". I think DeSantis is trying to expose the left. Mark my words, they're probably gonna hate him more than Trump in a few years.

That's because they were sending them to New York, LA, and Chicago.

All cities very capable of handling large groups of migrants.

Do you see the difference?

They had been sending migrants to cities that could handle the problem.

It wasn't generating outrage. The libs handled it.

So Abbot and DeSantis picked a tiny island that didn't have the infrastructure to handle a group of migrants.

And what do you know? The libs handled it. Got those people shelter, food, and fixed the paper work that DeSantis deliberately screwed up.

But, as a Texan, I want to know what Abbot is doing with the $130 million Texas receives each year that is earmarked specifically for small towns near the boarder to build infrastructure to handle migrants? Where's he actually spending that money?

What about the $2 Billion the US government directs to the Texas Border for state agencies?

Is he unable to manage the money correctly?

The best retaliation is to take the very federal funding away from the cities that were suppose to house refugees and give it to the liberal cities that they are sending them.

I imagine the states wouldn’t be too happy with that.

Way to try to prove a point and lose the very funding they sought.

Sounds like bad politicking to me and trying desperately to call it a win.