The average Biden voter now.

Like none of those things he listed is wrong. Literally 0. You are just saying "no."

Doesn't matter how long Trump was president. Nobody on the right said sh*t about dead soldiers until Biden got elected.

As you said, Putin has killed people. He doesn't give any f*cks. Dude literally took the owner of the Patriot's Super Bowl ring, was like "I could kill someone with this ring", and then walked away with it. I mean it's cool that you think Donald "you can't throw a brick it's too heavy" Trump is "strong" or whatever but I don't think Putin gives a f*ck about that or much of anything else. He wanted to invade Ukraine, so he did. Doesn't matter who is president here.

The left was actually raging, but people understand because that is war. War was conducted in however manner the military chose (to save lives). They took years to breach every house in cities, in order to avoid massacres. However, Biden simply threw strategy out the door. And look where we are.

What I am saying is, Putin would not have invaded because he would have seen a President who would be acting directly against him.

" those deaths were due to war, these deaths were due to poor leadership."

The deaths were due to a terrorist suicide attack. By your logic, 9/11, the Boston Marathon Bombing, the Oklahoma City Bombing, etc was due to "poor leadership".

"You should check to see if that is true"

which part? I don't know any generals and the information I have access to is based solely on whatever the military/govt has told the media...and they haven't exactly always been honest.. or correct anyway. (Through both this and previous administrations.)

"He admitted to giving it to them. "

1. Your own source said that the NSA adviser said the list doesn't even exist. "It is nonsense. It is irresponsible and unfounded reporting"

2. Your own source said: the Biden... Administration... Reportedly...... gave the Taliban a list of the names. Nowhere did it say Biden himself did anything, nor admitting to doing anything.

3. Your own source said "Biden said he was unaware of any list".

You are intentionally missing the point. You and I both know Biden rushed it. 0 tactics.

That article did contain him saying that. . ."Unaware" until he admitted it.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-doesnt-deny-report-of-u-s-handing-over-names-of-americans-to-taliban-theyre-may-have-been

https://nypost.com/2021/08/26/biden-admits-admin-may-have-given-taliban-kill-list-of-afghans-who-aided-us/

There apparently was a list of people approved to come here given to the Taliban outside the airport to let them through (according to Politico) but not sure about the rest of your claims.

Both of your sources said nothing about "lists of family members, weapon closets, and locations"..... Not sure if you just made that up or what.

That is implied. . . If you give away information about allies, and where they are, you are bound to find their families and equipment.

The person I was responding to was framing it as a problem "for Biden", so I continued with that.

If you want to talk about how Afghanistan is a big problem in general instead, that's fine with me.

I mean for one the drug trade there is a problem..... for us, for the world, and for Biden (Hunter Biden that is.. zing!) Lulz.. No but I think we spent like $8 billion toward the drug war there, and the whole time our troops were there... drug production actually skyrocketed. So not only was establishing them as a democracy a failure but our drug war there also seemed to be complete failure.

You are missing the point. People died. There was a lack of strategy, intentionally. American allies are being tortured, raped, and killed. Children, yes children are being tortured raped, and killed. All because Biden (or at least his handlers) are pieces of sh.

Do you really believe that if Trump were in office, or anyone with an actual will to know what room he or she is in, Putin would have so easily invaded Ukraine? Murderers like Putin hate strong men. Biden is not one of them.

"Biden..let himself get trashed. Trump wouldn't have."

You're going to have to be more specific than that. Trashed about what and by who?

Biden let the people of Afghan get but f'ed, literally. Tortured, enslaved, raped, etc. Biden just let it happen, and in fact caused the entire situation.

My understanding is the list was people that the US was willing to accept into our country...... In my opinion if they were our allies (afghan soldiers) they should not have been trying to come here. They should stay and fight. And theoretically it would seem giving the Taliban a list would be one way to force them to either fight or be killed or if they're lucky come here.

No, he deliberately gave away lists of family members, weapon closets, fighters, and even locations. He handed them over to be tortured.

I actually view the speed in which we left as a good thing. The faster we left, the less $$$ we would waste, and the less time terrorists or Taliban or whoever would have to continue attacking us as invaders in their country.

He said it is possible that someone in his administration MIGHT have done something like that.

He did not admit that he (or even anyone in his administration) did anything.

So I don't know why you keep sending me links which fail to prove that.

Nevermind then...Someone doesn't have to openly say that he did something for it to be obvious that he or she did it. Which is why we know the Taliban has this list, and why we had reports of these things happening to people...

"BRO, THE DEATHS DIDN'T NEED TO HAPPEN"

Bro.. being all bent about only 0.5% of deaths that happened in Afghanistan is a bit riddic.... NONE of the 2,448 US soldier deaths in Afghanistan needed to happen. Not a single one. We could've just bombed em from drones and whatnot (as we often do anyway). But we chose to go to war with them because we were pissed about 9/11, we chose to put boots on the ground, and it is what it is.

"1. BIDEN DID NOT HAVE TO DRAW OUT SO CARELESSLY"

I don't think Biden did anything more than give the military a date to leave. Theoretically the military should know the best way to do that since they would be the most knowledgeable about what is happening there.. But then again I'm not sure our military actually wanted to leave (at least the generals anyway). Maybe they didn't care and thought chaos might actually give us a reason to stay there longer. Maybe a perfect withdrawal was not possible in the timeframe given.... Idk. I'm not a general.

"2. HE DID NOT HAVE TO GIVE A LIST OF OUR ALLIES DIRECTLY TO THE ENEMY"

Lol You act like Biden flew to Kabul and handed a list to whatever top Taliban guy. Biden seemed to not even know about it... This might tie back into my statements in #1 about the military actually not wanting to leave.... Or if you want to get really darkk......... Maybe our military was pissed the Afghani soldiers abandoned the millions of dollars worth of weapons and equipment that we had trained them with and left for them to fight against the taliban. Like.. "oh you don't even want to fight for your own country with guns and stuff WE bought and paid for and left there for you? You think you can just abandon or sell our stuff to the Taliban and then hop on a plane to come to the US? Think again dude! You're now on a hit list so like it or not it's time for YOU to fight the Taliban!!"........this rant brought to you by Darko's Half-baked Conspiracy Theories.
Episode # 407.
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No, those deaths were due to war, these deaths were due to poor leadership. Big difference.

You should check to see if that is true, if so, it would be the militaries fault, but Biden didn't say that. In fact, he went against the military's better judgment.

He admitted to giving it to them. https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-biden-admin-gave-taliban-list-of-american-citizens-green-card-holders-and-afghan-allies-that-needed-to-get-into-airport-report

"Wait, so you are saying it was right to doom men, women and children to get raped, tortured for months and then killed?"

How many more American lives would YOU be willing to possibly sacrifice to try and protect Afghanis from being raped by their own government? We had thousands of troops trying to protect the Kabul airport and a suicide bomber still managed to kill 13 of our boys in an attack..(as well as 100 or however many Afghanis.)

"Biden had the ability to make things much smoother. He didn't have to pull out as he did, you know that."

Sure... He could've done it like the Russians did when they decided to end their war in Afghanistan.... took 'em 3 years to leave. No thanks!

BRO, THE DEATHS DIDNT NEED TO HAPPEN

1. BIDEN DID NOT HAVE TO DRAW OUT SO CARELESSLY

2. HE DID NOT HAVE TO GIVE A LIST OF OUR ALLIES DIRECTLY TO THE ENEMY

Raped by who...? The Taliban?

Yes, and enemies there of the US and its allies. BIDEN LITERALLY HAD THE A LIST OF THE ALLIES' INFORMATION GIVEN TO THE TALIBAN.

"You are missing the point. People died. There was a lack of strategy, intentionally. "

Ya no, I actually mentioned the people who died in my first comment. As well as the lack of concern prior to Biden. More of our troops died in Afghanistan under Trump... and his "strategy" was literally letting the Taliban out of prison.

Meanwhile the Kabul airport.. I mean it's actually a military base. It's not like whatever average airport. And we had thousands of troops there when that suicide bombing took place. I'm sure the military industrial complex wasn't thrilled about leaving but now they can make a bunch of money off Ukraine.,

Do I believe Putin would've invaded if trump had won in 20207? Absolutely. Trump wanted to pull us out of NATO, the UN and any other "globalist" group which are currently actually helping Ukraine right now. That "Putin waited for Biden" narrative is horse sh*t. As are so many others.

Most of the soldiers died under Trump no find duh sherlock. Trump had been pres for 4 years! Biden for only a few months!!!

No, not even Trump, just anyone else without dementia. But you didn't really address my point tho. Do you think that anyone more opposing would have stopped Putin from doing what he is doing? I certainly think so. A dementia house plant patient isn't scarry.

Source.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/26/biden-admits-admin-may-have-given-taliban-kill-list-of-afghans-who-aided-us/

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-doesnt-deny-report-of-u-s-handing-over-names-of-americans-to-taliban-theyre-may-have-been

And on the other side of the coin, if they gave them nothing, the Taliban would choose who goes to the airport regardless of if they would be able to board the planes or if we would actually accept them here or not. I would imagine many, many random civilians who might not be eligible would try to come anyway because they knew they would be f*cked if they stayed there..... And so it would be a waste of their time and it would make it more difficult for anyone who WAS eligible to come back (on the list). This would've totally f*cked the timeline to leave.

Was it perfect, clearly not. But we're talking about exiting a warzone....a war we most likely would never win. So you can be outraged about it or whatever but I'm glad Biden decided to bite the bullet and end it NOW, regardless of HOW... Rather then letting it drag on as all the other presidents seemed to.

Wait, so you are saying it was right to doom men, women and children to get raped, tortured for months and then killed?

Biden had the ability to make things much smoother. He didn't have to pull out as he did, you know that.

The Taliban committed all kinds of human rights violations before we got there and they will commit all kinds of human rights violations now that we have left.

Before we invaded Afghanistan in 2001, the Taliban was their form of government. We removed them from power and installed a democracy there. They got a president, had an army that we tried to train, gave them weapons, left them military equipment, etc.

When we ended the war though, they by and large did not want to fight for their own democracy. Their president literally ran away, their army gave up, and the Taliban once again became their government. And that has nothing to do with Biden... Biden, nor Trump, nor any other foreign leader could force Afghanistan to be willing to die for their own democracy..... that has to come from within. They have to fight for themselves. It did not happen though , so the Taliban was able to return to power.

The only way to stop the Taliban would be to invade Afghanistan again. You are essentially arguing that we should restart the war and stay there.

Man, you are just ignoring the obvious. Those US allies were protected, mostly of course, until BIDEN FING HANDED OVER A LIST TO THEM.

"took years to breach every house in cities, in order to avoid massacres. However, Biden simply threw strategy out the door."

Unless you're saying you do not think we should've ended the Afghanistan war, I don't know where you think you're going with that.

And what I'm saying is Putin is an actual murderer who does not care about "president who would be acting directly against him"... wtf does that even mean?? Also Trump has sided with Putin over the American government multiple times, so as far as "acting against him".. how..Sanctions? That's basically no different than any other president.

Meaning: Biden simply lay back and let himself get trashed. Trump wouldn't have.

Explain how Afghanistan is a big problem for Biden. I mean do you actually think 2 years from now most people will give any f*cks about HOW we ended that war? The cost of whatever equipment has already paid for itself by us not being there. And the 13 servicemen who died... I mean it sucks but thousands of our troops died in that war. Focusing on the 13 under Biden is a bit ridiculous. More than that died under trump and nobody said anything. In any case you know how many more will die there? Zero.
Thanks Biden!

"Explain how Afghanistan is a big problem for Biden." I could have stopped you before yo said "for Biden." I am not even going to attempt this. If you don't see the leadership of Biden at the time of Afghan as poor, then there is absolutely no way I can convince you.

LOL voluntary insanity, lets go

"2 steering wheel" truck
Texas power outages
Dr Seuss
Pepe le Pew
"Putin waited for Biden"
The "ghost handshake"
and now....... baby formula

We've had 50 years, so ya, it's not really fair.

The patriotism. The multipolar vision of the world. Peace, prosperity. Globalism produces wars, poverty, hunger, direct or indirect slavery, with puppet governments. only so that minority that believes that it helps to improve the world, can maintain a global dictatorship or in many countries.

Check Trump UN 2018 speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfVdIKaQzW8

Biden remorse is everywhere. You must never get outside much, honestly.

I don't love Trump, I just think he did a good job. He's a man (human) like the rest of us and is as much a piece of shit as we are.

never forget 1/6. the day a small dicktator tried to overthrow the election he lost. by a lot.

I know right.. he might do it again too.