They knew what they were getting in to

Not necessarily all of them. Some were certainly victims.

So you think that there were women who were scooped up, put in cages and brought there against their will?

Not necessarily. All I'm saying is that in that line of work, it's hard to tell what's voluntary and what's not. If even one of those women were coerced, that's an insensitive comment. Probably most of them went willingly, but you never know.

I knew it was gonna be an "insensitive comment" when I made the meme, there's one opinion allowed to be had on the subject and this meme aint it. I agree that in that line of work, abuse does happen I'm not trying to divert from that but the idea that only republicans went to the island, or that 3yr olds were victimized which a memer tried to suggest yesterday is getting into hyperbole.

Epstein was a pimp for well to do people and those women worked for him, they went there willingly knowing what they were getting into. When abuse happens it's the pimps job to break kneecaps, it's a known hazard of that line of work. Epstein probably allowed it which is wrong, but Trump Trump Trump!! Clinton who?? coupled with 3yr olds!! is getting me numb to the issue and making me make insensitive memes.

You think human trafficking doesn't exist?

I never said it didn't exist and I never said that it wasn't going on down at Epstein's Island all I have been saying is that it goes just as much on the Democrat side as it does on the Republican.

Mention Clinton and everybody does the huh what? And then they're right back to Trump Trump Trump.

Why didn't Bill Clinton do anything when he was president? Why didn't George Bush Jr when he was president? Why didn't Obama when he was president? It only became an issue after Trump became president and leftists have selective blindness on the issue.

My brother in christ what the actual f**k.

You know a lot of them were children right?

Young people dont understand the consequences of thier actions

You...you understand that even if they did go to the island mabey they were lied to about why they had to go

I'm not denying that there were some underage girls and that they could have been lied to, but the majority were of age and went there willingly for the money. My main point is that Epstein was never an issue until Trump was elected, everyone clutching their pearls about it are trying to make people think Trump was his main client and that democrats never went there, and they continue driving the age down, the latest being 3yrs old, I find that very hard to believe.

I thought I knew it all at 18, it wasn't until I was in my 30's I realized I knew nothing. I'm sure there's regrets of the 18 year olds who were recruited to go there as they found it wasn't all it was cracked up to be, but until the left start being equal opportunity in their condemnation I will continue to remind that the majority of who were there were of age and went willingly for the money, and access to the rich and powerful.

But I have no doubt that the sickest people among us are the elites who have the money and lawyers to feel above the law, I'm not saying Epsteins island should still be or ever should have been functioning, but the left would have everyone believe only republicans went and all the girls were just out of diapers, most were of age and went willingly.

Its the victims fault. They shouldn't have been poor if they knew what was good for them. Look up DARVO.

MAGA pedophile protectors want you to believe it's the child rape victims fault. The victims and their families were blackmailed and threatened by Epstein and Maxwell.

Maybe after they threatened to violate the non-disclosure agreement they signed, as far as child rape goes why do you people keep driving down the age? Someone made a meme the other day that 3-year-olds were down there do you seriously expect me to believe that?

They were recruited off the street maybe the outcome wasn't quite what was promised and that pissed them off maybe they didn't get paid as much as they were promised and that pissed them off but they went there knowing what they were getting into.

While it may be uncomfortable to think of 16-year-olds being there 16 is the age of consent and then I start hearing 14 and then I start hearing three which I find very hard to believe. WOMEN were recruited to go to the island they signed non-disclosure agreements and they did it for the money and the access and that's a fact Jack.

Trump says Epstein 'stole' young women from his Mar-a-Lago spa, not recruited off the streets as you state.

I thought Lefty disbelieved anything that Trump says. And I'm not saying that they were all streetworkers just that they were of age and knew what they were getting into.

As far as Trump saying that Epstein stole some of his girls sounds like he made them a better offer, those things happen in any trade a person happens to be working in.

So you think Epstein made those young women a better offer to get raped? Are you serious? Get help!

Rape, pedophilia, incest (with his daughter), you people keep throwing those labels out in an attempt to "get Trump" of course, but also divert from what was going on, which was the world's oldest profession.

High class hookers for rich and powerful men. It goes on right now legally in Nevada, but they are Yugo's compared to the Cadillacs available on the island, for a price. Part of that fee going to the woman, part of it to her pimp (Epstein).

Did some men get rough with them? Probably. But that happens whether working the street in Vegas or in a hut on the island, it's one of those hazards of the job that is well known but they do it anyway, for the money. Usually for drugs for the low class hookers, for access to rich and powerful men for the women recruited to go to the island.

You guys keep trying to put lipstick on a pig, and I know there's only one allowable opinion to have on this subject, but I'm just trying to remind that they went there knowing full well what they were getting into and they did it for the MONEY, as well as access to rich and powerful men they hoped one of which would become her sugar daddy for life.

So you haven't heard about the two young women who were murdered (died by strangulation during "rough, fetish sex" at the direction of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell) and buried on Epstein's NM ranch?

This guy is literally blaming victims of rape (including child rape) by saying they either don't exist or went there willingly. This is beyond disgusting but typical maga behavior.

No I havent, sources please.

But as for that particular fetish I remember when Michael Hutchence of INXS died by strangulation by accident, why is it not possible the same thing happened there? The women wanted a better org*sm, said "strangle me please", and were choked out 30 seconds too long, then panic sets in with Epsteinpimp not knowing what to do with the bodies?

That's just as plausible a scenario as they were choked against their will by pervert johns who liked their power trip, that's a question for Maxwell to answer I'd think.

Sources? Ask Pam Bondi! She was supposed to release all 6 million unredacted pages of the Epstein files.

This was just posted 1 hour ago, they just released another dump of files

https://youtu.be/T2iHRnpymNw

also 1 hr ago

https://youtu.be/EsUm673288M

Ummm... given the nature of the issue, the content of your comment, it might have been better not to invoke "trying to put lipstick on a pig." Just sayin'...

The "pig" is the attempt to make things Trump-centric while ignoring Bill Clinton's frequent flyer miles on the Lolita express. The lipstick is "Trump Trump Trump", get everyone focused on him and not notice that the issue is equal opportunity in terms of both parties in DC.

It was never an issue until Trump was elected in 2016, they looked the other way while Clinton was making all his trips. And as long as there is gonna be that type of hypocrisy on the issue I'll continue to remind people that while I'm sure there was abuse, I'm not denying that, the majority of the women who went there did it willingly for the money, and access to the rich and powerful.

The attempt to make everyone think it was only republicans, and to keep driving down the ages, like the meme suggesting 3yr olds were abused, only discredits any legitamite arguments people may have.

Most of the WOMEN who went to the island did so willingly, and they did it for the MONEY, as well as access to the rich and powerful, one of which they hoped would become their sugar daddy for life.

These were not "high class hookers," these were underage rape victims.

So Debby who was trafficked by Samantha that was trafficked by Pam who was trafficked by Susie are all high class hookers huh? Try watching some documentaries or something besides defend "Daddy".

If anyone is defending Daddy it's the left who refuse to mention the name Bill Clinton I'm all for accountability don't get me wrong but I want to see equal opportunity on the part of leftists according to you people Trump owned Epstein Island Epstein rented it from him and Trump supplied the girls you refuse to look at anybody but Trump and if that's the case I go numb to any arguments that come from the left

Haha....do you have a link to a video or a story who says, yeah but we need to protect bill? You keep defending, I keep say9ng arrest them ALL. DO YOU SEE THE DOFFERENCE? NO?

Daddy. So bill is daddy? Did he post a valentine message I identifying hi.self as daddy?

In other words....he ran a sex ponsyscheme. If a girl said "no you are creep", Jeffrey gave them the money to bring a new girl. If those girls didn't want to do the thing, he paid them to bring a girl....now you have three girls bringing three more each day.....that can branch off into 9 more traffickers, for $200 each.

Do yourself a favor, watch something, anything. Or, dont. But now you know, amd you dont care!

Women were not recruited to go to the island as high class call girls. There's nothing high class about Johns consorting with prostitutes, let alone raping those forced into it.

They weren't women, according to their age they were children.

Whether manipulated if statutory or outright raped, rape is rape.

And yes there are "high class hookers", who do you think Charlie Sheen was calling? $50/trick women, or $10,000/night?

Charlie sheen is mentioned, who knew?

Yes they were recruited. But according to the narrative these were all schoolgirls innocently walking home with their schoolbooks which made them a mark for Epsteins goons who would tool around middle and high schools, who would pull up next to them and throw them in the van, drug, bind, and gag them, and them whisk them away to the island to be passed around like party favors at this weekends get together.

You can't rape the willing, but I know women see all sex as rape, especially those who wish they were still 18 so they could be propositioned by Epsteinpimp and go make money too.

There is no such narrative.

Many of these girls were recruited from places like Mar-A-Lago where they were working or attending parties. Why underage teens were doing either there, I do not know.

They were offered similar jobs, also jobs in modeling. When you go to work at a place being told you're going to serve drinks or give massages, and the two people that talk to to going there suddenly force themselves upon you, it's called rape. Even if she's of age, it's called rape.

You don't blame somebody for getting raped because they were naive enough to believe that a supposed modeling gig it was a modeling gig. We used to hear about that in the '80s. Women were lured to places like Japan for modeling and Saudi Arabia for legit jobs, only to find out when they got there they were forced into prostitution or marriage. There was only one way out, and that was death. Arnold Schwarzenegger does not come in running through the door with Bruce Willis and they knock everybody down and usher the sex slaves into a plane and fly on out of there. Even if they didn't try to escape, they probably ended up dead anyways.

Russia has been doing this big time particularly in former Soviet countries in recent decades. They're doing it big time in Ukraine now, women and children. Russia is the biggest human trafficker in the world today.

This isn't some Upper West 80s Manhattan call girl from the movies. Richard Gere is not taking Julia Roberts to a night on the town for fancy shopping and good food. This is rape.

So the girls on Epstein's Island were found at Mar-A-Lago and lied to to get them to the island they were promised modeling gigs and what they were doing it Mar-A-Lago is unknown.

But it still comes down to Trump who was Epstein's supplier, check.

Taking advantage of desperate teenagers is the textbook Redington of a predator!!! Not the defense you think it is. Look up Darvo.

And as long as we're going to consider 18 year olds teenagers let's make the age of adulthood 21 that would be fine by me you have to be 21 to buy a gun you have to be 21 to get booze I don't necessarily like having 18 year olds vote they haven't been around long enough even though it was just a couple years ago the Democrats were trying to drive the voting age down to 16.

So they were adults and yet they were teenagers being taken advantage of. And it was all Trump even though Bill Clinton flew there many more times than him and even though Epstein was an issue through the Clinton administration the GW Bush administration the Obama administration he only became an issue when Trump became president in 2016.

If Democrats wouldn't be so hypocritical on the situation I wouldn't be so defensive of trump

Did you look up Darvo, yet?

I will look into it

Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender? I am not saying there were no underage girls at the island, I am saying most were adult, of age, and knew what they were doing and why (hint) for the MONEY.

But the suggestion keeps being they were ALL underage and that Trump is the only person who needs looked at.

Dude a 16 year old is not an adult. You can keep trying, but you have admitted you dont, he is not a dem!!! Disgusting!

I didn't say a 16-year-old was an adult

The girls that were not 18. Don't try to frame it like they were. How many documentaries have you watched on Jeffrey to decide you sided with him?

I'm not siding with him I'm just pointing out a few facts when you get right down to it 16 is the age of consent 18 makes you an adult the attempt of the left to continue to act like Trump was their only client while disregarding everybody else who went there and to try and keep driving down the age of the girls who were there the most recent being that meme suggesting 3-year-olds were there has me saying was it right? No but are the left selective in their outrage? Yes

Dude, for the last time, Noone is talking about a f**king adult here! Just stop. You are trying to make it appropriate it is is disgusting! No class. Just as those who OP some meme about the victims NEEDING M9NEY! GROSS KIDDO PROSITUTION APPROVERS is all the point they are making!!!!

Oh I knew this meme was going to stir up a shitstorm, but I will say again if 18 is the age of adulthood then the women who were recruited to go there and yes they were recruited then they knew what they were getting into and they did it for the money. People on the left who keeps saying Trump trump Trump and refuse to mention Bill Clinton and then make memes suggesting that 3-year-olds were taken advantage of are doing more harm to the issue than I am.

Lobby to have the age of adulthood raised to 21 I would be in favor of that but in the end Epstein was a pimp providing services for Rich elites and the women went there knowing what they were getting into and they did it for the money I'm not trying to say that it was right or that any of them should be defended but this is just the latest tool that the left is using to get Trump and if he is their only Target then they're just as disingenuous in their outrage as you think I am in my so-called defense of it