Yeah but that was when he created Eve, I've just been to one too many churches where I got a bad vibe. I remember one where before the service lots of people were up by the pulpit engaging in self flatuation, wailing and "forgive me forgive me", there was a guy standing up there with his arms crossed who looked more like a bouncer than anyone there to offer encouragement.
I watch Charles Stanley and Les Feldick, and there's a church in Toronto called Christ's forgivness ministries, the pastor David Lynn does in the street outreach and sermons, and debates with people, I just watched him debating a muslim, that's ballsy. They post it all on You Tube, I almost feel a call to relocate because that one feels real to me.