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They're okay with Muslims infecting our culture but fight against Christians holding office. Hypocrites much?

They're okay with Muslims infecting our culture but fight against Christians holding office. Hypocrites much? | AND JUST LIKE THAT; THE LEFT IS OK WITH RELIGION IN GOVERNMENT | image tagged in memes,and just like that,islam,christianity | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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3 ups, 4w
Woke pastor says that Zohran Mamdani is the most “Christ-like” politician in the US..

Excuse me..!?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1987746596633674015
5 ups, 4w
Very much
4 ups, 4w,
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Wrong, islam is not valid as religion. It's a totalitarian and death cult, much like socialism and nazism
3 ups, 4w
That’s why the penalty for leaving the religion is death. Otherwise no one would’ve stayed. Just like trying to leave communist countries.
2 ups, 4w
This is why we can’t move forward as a society and people get dumber
0 ups, 4w,
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Qur’an 5:32 — “Whoever kills a soul…it is as if he has killed all of mankind”

Doesn’t sound like a death cult to me
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This sums up the whole misunderstanding. Islam is an instruction manual for infiltrating and conquering the world; it is a totalitarian imperialist cult that does not accept freedom or anyone believing in anything different; it promises a paradise with virgins, something that has nothing to do with religion.
1 up, 3w,
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You’re quoting verses out of context. Early verses taught patience under persecution, later ones addressed war and defense after Muslims were attacked. Islam forbids compulsion in religion (2:256), values life (5:32), and protected religious minorities for centuries. Cherry-picking verses doesn’t prove totalitarianism, it shows a lack of honest study
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Recognize the evidence.

Islam has been imposed violently and through deception in every country, and continues to do so even today. Once it comes to power, it abolishes fundamental freedoms and prohibits other religions, preventing political freedom and imposing Sharia law, just as they do in every no-go zone where they are in the majority in the West
1 up, 3w,
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That’s not evidence it’s a sweeping generalization. Islam’s history includes trade, science, and coexistence, not just conflict. And ‘no-go zones’ are a debunked myth. If you want to critique, at least be accurate.
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0 ups, 3w
Please see my other comments on why it's not quite that simple. That image is more a caricature of extremist Wahhabi Islam from Saudi Arabia, which is a very modern thing, relatively.

The Islamic world has contributed a huge amount to human knowledge. We'd arguably be really behind otherwise.

And the Christian world has also had its fair share of barbarism (colonialism, Atlantic Slave Trade, witch hunts, Spanish Inquisition, and so on).

Just one example: half our stars have Arabic names (ancient Arabs were good at that coz they had clear skies and I guess a lot of free time on their hands lol). Honestly, have a look at star names sometime. You'll find a ton are Arabic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arabic_star_names

The movie Beetlejuice is a play on words from the star Betelgeuse, which is from an Arabic name:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse

Every time you sit on the sofa in your cotton T-shirt eating candy and drinking lemonade, you're using Arabic words (or at least words that passed through Arabic from other languages, like Indian languages), like orange, that came from Spanish from Arabic, but ultimately from an Indian language, and sugar is similar. And before that, who knows? Just like how so many English words come from Latin or Greek, which got them from older languages.

Your YouTube algorithm is named after a Persian mathematician. You might not even be reading my words right now if it weren't for Muslims preserving and translating ancient knowledge that would've been lost during the Dark Ages and we'd be centuries behind or sth.

Have you taken a selfie recently? You need a lens for that. That arguably wouldn't be possible were it not for a Muslim guy called Ibn al-Haytham, who pioneered work in the field of optics.

https://www.lomography.com/magazine/351431-hasan-ibn-al-haytham-the-father-of-optics

Muslim scientists (as well as people living under Muslim rule, including Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians and others) have contributed a fair bit to humanity, actually. We'd probably be way behind where we are now otherwise.

It's actually fascinating to read about. If you're into that nerdy stuff, anyway.
1 up, 3w,
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Islam opposes freedom and scientific progress. That is why no Muslim has contributed anything to the world.
1 up, 3w,
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That’s just false. Muslim scholars pioneered algebra, optics, medicine, and more. Denying that isn’t critique it’s erasure.
1 up, 3w,
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In the beginning, they couldn't read, and thanks to that, they were more tolerant than they are now. Algebra is Indian, not Muslim. Most of their knowledge comes from other cultures, not from Muslims.
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The English word algebra is literally from an Arabic term: al-jabr. Like alcohol, and tons of other words you use almost every single day, like cotton, coffee, sugar, candy, lemon, zero, decipher, and even tariff, which Trump loves (it's Arabic via Italian).

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/algebra

Yes, based on earlier Indian mathematics, but further developed by Muslim mathematicians (or at least people living under Muslim rule). The word algorithm comes from the name of a Persian guy called Al-Khwarizmi (say it fast – the W is silent), who further developed algebra and wrote a treatise on it. You wouldn't even be able to use half the internet without him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Khwarizmi

People in the ancient Near East weren't all literate, sure. Neither were most people in Europe til very recently. But writing has existed for eons. There are Arabian inscriptions dating back 4,000 years:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_South_Arabian_script

According to Islamic tradition, the Prophet Muhammad was illiterate, yes (which is "ummi" in Arabic). One of the main features of the Quranic revelation story was that, according to tradition, he was unable to read, so when the angel Gabriel (Jibreel/Jibril) appeared to him in the cave and commanded him to "Read!" (iqra') he replied twice that he couldn't. But the Arabic word for "read" also means "recite", so finally on the third command, Muhammad understood and recited what is believed to be the very first verse revealed of the Qur'an. (https://quran.com/al-alaq)

During the Islamic Golden Age, the Abbasid Caliphate preserved and transmitted a huge amount of knowledge from ancient Greek, Latin, Persian, Sanskrit and Syriac sources in science, medicine, astronomy, optics, and other subjects that would've been lost during the European Dark Ages, and preserved a large number of texts by translating them to Arabic. Translation was a big thing during that period.

So yes, you're right that they drew on earlier knowledge from other cultures, just as European scientists drew heavily on Greek and Roman and other sources, and scientists today build on the accumulated knowledge of centuries. Standing on the shoulders of giants and all that. Knowledge is cumulative. Muslim thinkers and scientists also contributed a LOT, while Europe wasn't really doing nearly as much comparatively. A lot of knowledge would've been lost if not for this.
0 ups, 3w
Every civilization builds on others. Muslim scholars didn’t just borrow—they preserved, expanded, and innovated. Al-Khwarizmi didn’t invent math, but he revolutionized it. That’s contribution.
1 up, 3w,
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ain't even true Muslim scientists and mathematicians have contributed a lot to society. feel free to fact check, even sending one message to AI would help if you're too lazy to research
1 up, 3w,
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If there is any scientific progress in Islam, it is in spite of Islam, not because of it, since almost everything is haram (forbidden). Islam means submission. Islam is intolerant, sexist, homophobic, imperialist, totalitarian, and regressive in every way. It relies on an unchangeable text, subject to strict interpretation. This text depends on a single source, a single person, a self-proclaimed prophet, who is violent and pedophilic. It compels believers to subjugate all non-Muslims by force and to kill anyone who refuses to submit. In fact, Islam continues to kill non-Muslims in many parts of the world today, simply for not being Muslim.
1 up, 3w
(sorry in advance for the long text) that's literally not true whatsoever. Islam doesn't prohibit scientific advantages or anything like that. and it's not sexist, people in pre-Islamic times treated women horribly, Islam commanded that women should be treated like humans and changed that. sure the change wasn't quick so there were some people who continued to treat women like shit, but in the end it was a change for the better so why hate it for that? also if what you said about killing non-Muslims were true, the world would be different because millions of Muslims live in peace with non-Muslims in secular countries. even Muhammad himself had friends that never converted to Islam, why would that man be friends with people he commanded to be killed? and the Muslims nowadays killing people shouldn't represent the religion, definitely sick people who don't follow it properly, because Islam doesn't allow killing a human outside battles or punishment for a crime.
0 ups, 3w
if that were true than it would've already been the case for several non-Muslim countries
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Not an apologist for Islam, believe me. (I mainly just don't like stereotypes against Muslims as people or this whole Islamic culture versus the West in general narrative (yawn – that's been a thing for like a millennium already, folks, so maybe change the record?), because I don't have time for BS.)

But the 72 virgins thing is from a hadith. Not in the Qur'an for starters, but then loads of stuff isn't tbf. It's a bit like the cherubs with harps on clouds thing for Christians. It's not an "official" thing and it's more of a folk culture thing anyway. It's not an actual doctrinal thing. It's not like every Muslim actually believes in the whole 72 virgins in paradise thing (if they've even heard of it).

You also hear a lot online these days, especially in rightwing circles, about "taqiyya" being a core Islamic belief/practice. I've literally yet to meet a single Muslim who ever mentioned that. If they even ever heard of it. And I've met a lot of Muslims and been to a bunch of Muslim-majority countries. Literally never heard anyone talk about it. (Ikr? Sneaky or what? They're careful never to mention it. 👀) It's become some popular rightwing trope for some reason, as if every Muslim is taught this. They aren't.

And in any case, it doesn't mean Muslims are commanded by Scripture or dogma or something to lie to non-believers/kafirs to deceive them; it's specifically about if you're a Muslim living in a non-Muslim area and *in danger* if people find out you're Muslim, so you're "allowed" to hide your faith to avoid persecution. That's it. And it's mainly a Shia thing anyway (from centuries back, too). Which is a minority of Muslims (most of whom are Sunni).

It doesn't mean Muslims go around deliberately lying to kafirs so they can sneakily infiltrate countries and then take over or some shit. Lying is still a sin in Islam.

As for your bit about how Meccan surahs and Madinan surahs change, then yes, I'd agree, I guess. The early Meccan surahs were more "poetic" and shorter, and the later Madinan ones were longer and a bit more confident, shall we say. You need to take them in context though (inb4 lol). You can't just quote a single line like that. A lot of them are talking about war. They're not literally telling Muslims to go and kill every kafir whenever they see them. Muslims don't believe that. If they did, they wouldn't be able to live in Western societies. Those verses are talking about the polytheists specifically in the context of 7th-century war.
1 up, 3w,
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Recognize the evidence.

Islam has been imposed violently and through deception in every country, and continues to do so even today. Once it comes to power, it abolishes fundamental freedoms and prohibits other religions, preventing political freedom and imposing Sharia law, just as they do in every no-go zone where they are in the majority in the West.
0 ups, 3w
The idea that Islam was spread "by the sword" is not quite as simple. Yes, Islamic conquests were a thing, obviously, and violence, persecution and forced conversion were a part of it. Islam broke out of the Arabian peninsula and spread very rapidly. But it's not quite accurate or fair to claim it spread solely by the sword.

Also, Islamic societies often tolerated other religions without simply exterminating them. Jews and Muslims lived in Spanish Al-Andalus for centuries, jizya tax notwithstanding. (Bear in mind, the jizya tax made you exempt from military service. I mean, it's not like I support a tax against people for not converting, but there is that at least: it meant you didn't have to risk your life in the army, and it was fairly low.)

Jews lived in North Africa for centuries. Until finally the Jews were expelled when the State of Israel was created in 1948. The Spanish Reyes Católicos (Catholic Kings) also expelled the Jews from the Iberian peninsula in 1492 when they reconquered Spain and kicked out all the Muslims. Whereas the Muslims had let the Jews live there for centuries. So the Muslims were arguably more tolerant than the Christians.

Actually some of the greatest scientists and thinkers were Jews living during the Abbasid/Umayyad Caliphates. Like Maimonides. Super famous Jewish philosopher.

The Catholics just expelled or killed them. The Muslims at least had let them live for ages in exchange for paying a tax. The Muslim Ottoman Empire also controlled what is now Palestine/Israel, and Muslims, Jews and Christians lived there and they didn't have the shitshow and bloodshed that has been going on for the last 75 years until the British showed up and made a right f**king mess of it then did a bunk as usual, so here we are. Now it's a bit more complicated and we're left with possibly the most unsolvable conflict on earth. Wasn't a thing when the (Muslim) Ottomans were in charge.

So to say that a country run by Muslims by default "prohibits other religions" needs unpacking. Jews and Christians lived in most of North Africa as well as Iran for centuries, under Muslim rule. (Actually, Jews still live in Iran btw.) Not without problems, sure. Let's not sugarcoat it. But it's not quite that clear-cut. Europe meanwhile had pogroms against Jews, and ghettos. It's all very complex.

Anyway tl;dr: a lot of the points you made aren't quite accurate and history is a bit more complex.

As for what you mean by "Sharia law", that's also complicated.
1 up, 4w
Please show examples of both of your claims
1 up, 4w
But why? All religions are against woke…
0 ups, 4w,
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LOL Is Islam right about women?
2 ups, 4w
I would say yes to modern women, but good traditional, no.
1 up, 4w
Religion isn’t allowed in government dumb dumb
0 ups, 3w
No problem - remove the christianity and I'll advocate to remove all the others too. I'll make that deal.
2 ups, 4w,
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Where to even start with this?

It's not illegal for Muslims to hold office in the US.

It's literally in your Constitution.

Freedom of religion is what your whole silly country is built on.

How many Americans are actually practising Christians in 2025?

When was the last time you personally went to church?

John 3:16.Tell me what it means.

Do you even believe in God yourself?

Do I have to spell it out?

Muslims can be president of the United States of America. Even Jews. It's in the rules...

Ikr?

You don't need to be a Christian to be president.
6 ups, 4w
I think the point the maker of the meme is trying to make is that lefties are jot okay if they are Christian or jew, but they are perfectly fine if it is a Muslim.
5 ups, 4w,
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Apparently, the point of the meme went straight over your head. Typical.
0 ups, 4w
Guilty as charged lol so "point" taken. I'd take issue with people on the left criticizing someone for being a Christian too, though (or following any religion or none) if that's what some people are doing. I don't care what politicians' personal religious beliefs are or lack thereof as long as they do a good job and aren't extremists.
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“The Senators and Representatives before‑mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

*Muslims can hold office.* It's in your law, bud. Sorry about that.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-6/clause-3/

If you don't like it, take it up with George Washington or sth.

I'm not American so I don't give a shit.

Just like your 2nd Amendment freedom to shoot up high schools thing that the whole world thinks is ridiculous.

Muslims are allowed, I'm afraid. Oh well.
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2 ups, 4w
I commented. Because I felt he needed to know what his smarmy leftist opinion was worth. Sorry about your feelz. Not
0 ups, 4w,
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Fair lol. Can you tell I'm bored? Not a femboy though. And I haven't surrendered to Islam, nor do I plan to any time soon. Having a Muslim mayor or leader doesn't bother me though. Being a good leader does. So you can criticize Mamdani on that, by all means. I don't necessarily support him. I just don't care what his religious background is.
1 up, 3w,
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Maybe if you had cared you wouldn’t be listening to Muslim calls to prayer 5 times a day or young girls might have not been raped by gangs of Islamic immigrants.
0 ups, 3w
Do you live next-door to a mosque, bro? 😆 And, yes, cases of sexual assault against minors are a serious and harrowing issue for any level-headed person with a germ of morality, and I think we shouldn't pussyfoot around getting at the truth no matter how "culturally sensitive". Native-born white non-Muslim grooming gangs are a thing too, though. 🤷 Here's just one nasty example from the UK (white/non-Muslim as far as we know):

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c89g293zj2ko

From the US: Operation Autumn Hope

https://www.revolt.tv/article/2020-10-28/67161/179-arrested-45-kids-rescued-in-ohios-largest-human-trafficking-sting

And, last I checked, Epstein and Maxwell weren't Muslim, to give an infamous example that the Politics stream loves talking about.

Not saying the so-called grooming gangs scandal isn't a thing worth talking about, and I'm not just here for whataboutery. Just pointing out it's (sadly) by no means exclusive to certain ethnic or religious groups. There are immoral individuals of all shapes, colours and beliefs. Two billion Muslims in the world (at least nominally). That's a lot of people to label as potential pedos. And a true practicing Muslim knows that's wrong and against their core beliefs. (Inb4 Muhammad supposedly marrying Aisha at 6, etc.).

By the way, a lot of the Muslim perpetrators of South Asian heritage that were caught to date weren't immigrants; they were born and raised in the UK. Not that that means much necessarily (maybe it makes it worse in your eyes), but just pointing it out again to be more accurate. So it's not just an immigration thing.
3 ups, 4w,
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As usual, you fail to read the meme correctly and give a reply that has nothing to do with it.
2 ups, 4w,
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This is a big issue with this guy, just check the comments of this meme and you'll see what I mean.
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3 ups, 3w,
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He does the same to me, he just blindly denies.
0 ups, 3w
Pointing out that you are wrong is not being in denial
0 ups, 3w
Your meme is about Christians and Muslims in public office. My comment is about Christians and Muslims in public office

You think that liberals are complaining about Christians in public office but they're not. You also think that Muslims are "infecting" this country with their religion. They are not.
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