Inconsistent Great Britain

FYI British Muslims are also British citizens.

Not according to the unhinged Right.

British citizens with more rights than non-muslims

Can you please give an example of how British citizens who are Muslim have more rights than British citizens who aren't Muslim? You mean like in how (certain sources say) that nowadays they're treated more favourably by the law or something? Cf "Two-Tier Keir".

Would a Jewish group there be allowed to carve out an enclave where Mosaic Law supersedes the law of the rest of the country? Not likely

I believe you may be talking about Shariah courts and Jewish Beth Din (which has been a thing for ages – like centuries, actually). I'm not an expert but my understanding is that they are civil courts and don't have any real legal clout. It's only for civil matters.

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There are also Christian Ecclesiastical courts in the UK that have slightly more power apparently.

https://www.churchofengland.org/about/leadership-and-governance/ecclesiastical-courts

If you're talking about the so-called "Muslim no-go areas", that's a different topic.

I'm not a lawyer. And I haven't travelled the length and breadth of the UK. Ask the Google Images van lol.

I've never been to a place in the UK where this is an issue and I daresay it's not exactly something the average Brit worries about. But I haven't been to every town. I concede there may well be towns/streets where some more hardline Muslims try to take the law into their own hands and make it a "Shariah-only zone". But I'm not sure that has any legal basis.

If the police allow it, then it has legal basis.

First up, apologies. I messed up one of my links. (Ignore the "chrome-extension" bit. Apparently that can't be opened.) Should be:

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CDP-2019-0102/CDP-2019-0102.pdf

Do the UK police allow it? Again, I haven't walked through every street in the land so I can't provide an empirical study. I've heard stories online of people being harassed in these "Sharia Controlled Zones", especially women. Which is very not cool.

All I know is if I found myself drinking a can of beer, smoking a cigarette and playing music on my headphones while walking down a street in London (totally legal in UK unless it's in a specifically alcohol-free zone which does actually exist) that had a poster on some lamppost saying "Sharia Controlled Zone", and some extremist Islamist nutter came up to me and told me I wasn't allowed to do that, I think I might well them to bog off and leave me alone. Or tell them to fck a donkey in Arabic or something.

If it was a gang of aggressive-looking young men in balaclavas and hoodies with bigger muscles than me, I might be a bit more cautious tbf. In any case, after stubbing out my ciggy and pouring my beer away, I'd possibly still be cheeky enough to politely ask them what their legal authority was for enforcing this policy. (You can come to my funeral later.)

If I called the police (and they actually turned up within 3 hours lol), I'm not sure said nutters would have a leg to stand on. Shariah-controlled streets aren't a thing in UK law. It's just a bunch of weirdos trying to create their own laws and harass and threaten people in a few areas. I'm not gonna be told to stop drinking a beer ffs. I like beer. If you don't like me doing it, eat my shorts. As long as I'm not shitfaced, causing havoc, harassing anyone, pissing in the street or being generally antisocial and breaking laws, it's none of your business.

We can try an experiment. Any volunteers?

Anyway I had a quick look. This is an old Stone Age story, from 2011.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2020382/You-entering-Sharia-law-Britain-As-Islamic-extremists-declare-Sharia-law-zone-London-suburb-worrying-social-moral-implications.html

Daily Mail is an (arguably) very rightwing UK newspaper that is typically anti-immigrant and likes to complain a lot. Interesting to see how much their rhetoric has evolved in the last decade cos this article reads way more measured than their current stuff. Also way less clickbait and ads.

Knowing how many of these non-assimilating like to knife people my guess is you'd piss yourself and run to mommy

I would tbf lol. Prob crap myself too. Not much of a fighter. And then I could actually get done by the cops for a public order offence, or whatever pissing in the street is classified as. People do actually get arrested for that. (Might help if they reopened a few of the public toilets though.) One young guy got prison I think a while back for being drunk one night and weeing on a war memorial. I thought that was a bit harsh but maybe they wanted to make an example of him. Should just give him community service and make him scrub the streets from the other drunk men's deposits. And maybe a few classes on history and respecting the dead who gave their lives for you. But they take stuff like that quite seriously.

(Actually I seem to recall it was mainly the more conservative types who were outraged and wanted him banged up.) If he'd picked a random alleyway like most of the other guys do on a Friday night then it's still technically an offence I think, but he'd likely get away with it, provided he avoided the CCTV which is everywhere. So don't go defacing any sacred memorials or you might live to regret it.

Btw when I say "you" I don't mean you or anyone else personally. Just a lazy way of talking. I don't actually care all that much about bad English. (I mean, it seems to be a trend. But it's petty and cheap to use as an argument against someone's politics, I agree. My apologies.)

Ah, my bad again. Turns out that kid was spared jail in the end. Pretty old story and I didn't do my homework properly. Hope he learned his lesson. Some others have spent time for similar offences though.

I generally lean more pacifist (obviously we need an army because leaving your country defenceless is a utopian fantasy in this world, but I would rather it was used slightly more for defence and peacekeeping than actual invasions, which often don't end well, or lucrative arms deals with countries that don't have a glowing human rights record).

But even I draw the line at defacing memorials to dead soldiers. You've gotta have some standards of basic decency in a society. I feel similarly about those climate nutters who vandalize priceless works of art and beloved ancient monuments. Not exactly winning people over to their side that way. (Gets media attention, sure, which is why they do it. Also backfires and undermines their cause in my opinion. And I'm actually on their side, otherwise. But I'd rather support the scientists than a few overzealous activist kids, well-intentioned as I'm sure they believe they are. They're possibly too young to realize they're ruining their futures. Or maybe that's a sacrifice they're willing to accept. But I suspect they may one day live to regret the follies of youth.)

As for Mr Choudary, he was a key figure in a terrorist organization that actually did carry out lethal attacks, so I guess he deserves to spend his life behind bars tbf. I think it's mainly just sad that someone otherwise reasonably intelligent chooses to dedicate their life to bad over good when they could've done better with their short time on this earth.

Sounds like the United States 15 years ago

Nah, see they tried that Shariah law, rape gang stuff in the US and a family member of the rape victim took care of the offender. Seems like all the rape gangs left after a few instances of that.

Source please? I would love to read about this story.

See Minneapolis

Is this what we see, when we head to the Purple house of the Artist formerly known as Prince ?

"April 13, 2017
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Muslim leaders in Minneapolis are wary of a man who has been patrolling a predominantly Somali neighborhood to enforce the Islamic civil code.

Abdullah Rashid has been telling residents of the Cedar-Riverside neighborhood not to drink, use drugs or interact with the opposite sex, according to his interpretation of Sharia law, the Star Tribune reported Thursday"

....yawn

No, they did not. You made that up.

What is a TEIR ?

Apparently it means "three" in Breton. Or a bad omen in Irish.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/teir

Or it could just be a lazy typo for "teir"... Because a certain right-whinger didn't spent 10 seconds using spellcheck to make sure their meme didn't have a typo before publishing it.

Cos Trump supporters are the most educated people on planet earth dot com.

God forbid we make fun of them for being illiterate oiks who can't even speak English but moan incessantly about how "foreigners" don't "assimilate" and learn the language to C2 level.

That would be very snobbish and pretentious of us.

(I make typos too btw. Guolty as charged. And this stupid site doesn't let you edit your comments to fix them so I've made a few myself. But come on.)

Trump/Brexit voters have such shit English it's not even a challenge. It's not even a stereotype. It's literally more predictable than the sun rising. Can't you be more original?

Like all we have to do is correct your English and we know you're rightwing. That's boring. Learn your own language ffs. If you can't even be bothered to learn English, maybe you should go back where you came from? (Where is that, exactly?)

You rant about immigrants not learning English and "assimilating" (whatever tf that even means), and you're all illiterate as all f**k. Literally.every.time.

It's getting old now.

Go back to school. Didn't they teach you how to spell in Sunday School?

I genuinely want to debate you for actual intelligent stuff and assume you're smart and rational but just have different opinions, and not resort to petty playground jokes like trolling you cos you can't even spell "your a retard" properly. But f**k me you make it too easy. Try harder. I'm bored. Try harder.

It didn't come up on spell check. I thought it looked weird but didn't take the time to check further. Only someone without a better argument disallows a comment for a simple spelling or grammar error

As to the contextual content of the Meme:
British Citizens tell each other to "Piss Off" daily.
What could possibly go wrong for British Authorities by Pissing Off an Islamist ?

Have an upvote. It was a very cheap shot on my part tbf so I'll aim to try harder next time. I'll let you off, even if we don't quite agree on the politics. Don't sweat it and hopefully no hard feelings. Just seen one too many memes with dodgy spelling and badly written social media posts slagging off foreigners for not learning the language properly, so I got a bit triggered. Mostly just taking the piss anyway.

Upvoted for effort, certainly not content

🤣 Okay you win an upvote too, buddy. x Not one of my finer posts, I admit. Won't make it into my published works.

I get a bit carried away sometimes. It's just... the typos omg. The red mist descends. 😨 Have a cookie.

Ok i meant "spend" and not "spent". I did say I make typos too. Stupid Autocorrect. So you can shoot me for that one.

Anyway, learn to speak English before you slag off "foreigners" with PhDs in Astrophysics for using a preposition wrong when you can't even speak your own language for shit. That's just dumb.