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Inconsistent Great Britain | OF COURSE THERE IS TWO-TEIR JUSTICE IN BRITAIN; BECAUSE BRITISH AUTHORITIES ARE MORE AFRAID OF PISSING OFF MUSLIMS THAN BRITISH CITIZENS | image tagged in inconsistent great britain | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
377 views 20 upvotes Made by sharps45 3 days ago in politics
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3 ups, 2d,
2 replies
FYI British Muslims are also British citizens.
3 ups, 2d
Not according to the unhinged Right.
3 ups, 2d,
1 reply
British citizens with more rights than non-muslims
2 ups, 2d,
1 reply
Can you please give an example of how British citizens who are Muslim have more rights than British citizens who aren't Muslim? You mean like in how (certain sources say) that nowadays they're treated more favourably by the law or something? Cf "Two-Tier Keir".
3 ups, 2d,
1 reply
Would a Jewish group there be allowed to carve out an enclave where Mosaic Law supersedes the law of the rest of the country? Not likely
2 ups, 1d,
1 reply
I believe you may be talking about Shariah courts and Jewish Beth Din (which has been a thing for ages – like centuries, actually). I'm not an expert but my understanding is that they are civil courts and don't have any real legal clout. It's only for civil matters.

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CDP-2019-0102/CDP-2019-0102.pdf

There are also Christian Ecclesiastical courts in the UK that have slightly more power apparently.

https://www.churchofengland.org/about/leadership-and-governance/ecclesiastical-courts

If you're talking about the so-called "Muslim no-go areas", that's a different topic.

I'm not a lawyer. And I haven't travelled the length and breadth of the UK. Ask the Google Images van lol.

I've never been to a place in the UK where this is an issue and I daresay it's not exactly something the average Brit worries about. But I haven't been to every town. I concede there may well be towns/streets where some more hardline Muslims try to take the law into their own hands and make it a "Shariah-only zone". But I'm not sure that has any legal basis.
2 ups, 15h,
1 reply
If the police allow it, then it has legal basis.
0 ups, 10h,
2 replies
First up, apologies. I messed up one of my links. (Ignore the "chrome-extension" bit. Apparently that can't be opened.) Should be:

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CDP-2019-0102/CDP-2019-0102.pdf

Do the UK police allow it? Again, I haven't walked through every street in the land so I can't provide an empirical study. I've heard stories online of people being harassed in these "Sharia Controlled Zones", especially women. Which is very not cool.

All I know is if I found myself drinking a can of beer, smoking a cigarette and playing music on my headphones while walking down a street in London (totally legal in UK unless it's in a specifically alcohol-free zone which does actually exist) that had a poster on some lamppost saying "Sharia Controlled Zone", and some extremist Islamist nutter came up to me and told me I wasn't allowed to do that, I think I might well them to bog off and leave me alone. Or tell them to fck a donkey in Arabic or something.

If it was a gang of aggressive-looking young men in balaclavas and hoodies with bigger muscles than me, I might be a bit more cautious tbf. In any case, after stubbing out my ciggy and pouring my beer away, I'd possibly still be cheeky enough to politely ask them what their legal authority was for enforcing this policy. (You can come to my funeral later.)

If I called the police (and they actually turned up within 3 hours lol), I'm not sure said nutters would have a leg to stand on. Shariah-controlled streets aren't a thing in UK law. It's just a bunch of weirdos trying to create their own laws and harass and threaten people in a few areas. I'm not gonna be told to stop drinking a beer ffs. I like beer. If you don't like me doing it, eat my shorts. As long as I'm not shitfaced, causing havoc, harassing anyone, pissing in the street or being generally antisocial and breaking laws, it's none of your business.

We can try an experiment. Any volunteers?

Anyway I had a quick look. This is an old Stone Age story, from 2011.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2020382/You-entering-Sharia-law-Britain-As-Islamic-extremists-declare-Sharia-law-zone-London-suburb-worrying-social-moral-implications.html

Daily Mail is an (arguably) very rightwing UK newspaper that is typically anti-immigrant and likes to complain a lot. Interesting to see how much their rhetoric has evolved in the last decade cos this article reads way more measured than their current stuff. Also way less clickbait and ads.
0 ups, 8h
PS The whole "Sharia Controlled Zone" was mostly made famous by a certain Anjem Choudary. Extremist Muslim cleric who used to be very outspoken about 15 years ago.

Who is now in the slammer for a very long time. So those zones aren't a thing any more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anjem_Choudary

I actually feel sorry for him cos I'm way too nice. I don't want anyone to be in prison. I think prisons are stupid.

He's clearly extremely smart. And I don't like seeing anyone have their life ruined. I'd make a shit judge tbf. (I'd be way too lenient lol.) I don't like seeing anyone suffer. I'm not happy he's in prison. That's sad. For him, his family, and everyone who knows him. I genuinely want him to have a good life. I don't get a kick out of knowing he's in prison. That's shit and tragic for everyone/.

But you can't go around stoking violence. And I don't make the rules.

Anyway tl;dr: the "no-go areas" are a bit of a myth.

And if Buckingham Palace raises the Isis flag in the next 10 years I'll buy you 100 beers.

It's a nonsense. Stop falling for the nonsense media. And Elon Musk, who's an idiot. He has no clue about what's really going on.

Not saying we don't have problems with immigration and integration and stuff, but we're not living in some dystopian hellscape just yet. And ISIS aren't literally patrolling the streets of London. Get a grip.
0 ups, 5h
Knowing how many of these non-assimilating like to knife people my guess is you'd piss yourself and run to mommy
1 up, 1d,
1 reply
What is a TEIR ?
0 ups, 8h,
2 replies
Apparently it means "three" in Breton. Or a bad omen in Irish.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/teir

Or it could just be a lazy typo for "teir"... Because a certain right-whinger didn't spent 10 seconds using spellcheck to make sure their meme didn't have a typo before publishing it.

Cos Trump supporters are the most educated people on planet earth dot com.

God forbid we make fun of them for being illiterate oiks who can't even speak English but moan incessantly about how "foreigners" don't "assimilate" and learn the language to C2 level.

That would be very snobbish and pretentious of us.

(I make typos too btw. Guolty as charged. And this stupid site doesn't let you edit your comments to fix them so I've made a few myself. But come on.)

Trump/Brexit voters have such shit English it's not even a challenge. It's not even a stereotype. It's literally more predictable than the sun rising. Can't you be more original?

Like all we have to do is correct your English and we know you're rightwing. That's boring. Learn your own language ffs. If you can't even be bothered to learn English, maybe you should go back where you came from? (Where is that, exactly?)

You rant about immigrants not learning English and "assimilating" (whatever tf that even means), and you're all illiterate as all f**k. Literally.every.time.

It's getting old now.

Go back to school. Didn't they teach you how to spell in Sunday School?

I genuinely want to debate you for actual intelligent stuff and assume you're smart and rational but just have different opinions, and not resort to petty playground jokes like trolling you cos you can't even spell "your a retard" properly. But f**k me you make it too easy. Try harder. I'm bored. Try harder.
0 ups, 8h
Ok i meant "spend" and not "spent". I did say I make typos too. Stupid Autocorrect. So you can shoot me for that one.

Anyway, learn to speak English before you slag off "foreigners" with PhDs in Astrophysics for using a preposition wrong when you can't even speak your own language for shit. That's just dumb.
0 ups, 5h
It didn't come up on spell check. I thought it looked weird but didn't take the time to check further. Only someone without a better argument disallows a comment for a simple spelling or grammar error
2 ups, 1d,
1 reply
Sounds like the United States 15 years ago
1 up, 15h,
3 replies
Nah, see they tried that Shariah law, rape gang stuff in the US and a family member of the rape victim took care of the offender. Seems like all the rape gangs left after a few instances of that.
0 ups, 7h
Source please? I would love to read about this story.
0 ups, 5h
See Minneapolis
1 up, 15h
No, they did not. You made that up.
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