Insurance Guy

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Huge numbers of life saving procedure either get outright denied or are so seriously delayed, that they might as well have been denied. But none of that matters to leftists because it's socialism and socialism IS their religious faith.

The media is at fault for not reporting the truth on this.

Nor do they realize that the system ultimately will have panels to decide if people should be euthanized, even involuntarily.

They have no idea of how long the waiting lines are for treatment...

IM sure they'll approve killing yourself.

For those that support Luigi, I support this

Obamacare was created to cost us more money and give us crappier coverage. It was sold, just like all socialist programs, to fix an imaginary problem with health insurance by legislating heavy regulations and laws. And in the end it just made everything much worse.

Obama care did open the door to anyone who applies for a tax credit to purchase private health care. Initially the government wanted everyone to have healthcare..... And fined those who didn't... That was wrong.... What Obama care accomplished was elimination of denying coverage for president existing conditions, and getting rid of a lifetime payout cutoff. It's easy to spend 100000000 dollars on health claims to someone who is battling als or Parkinson's.

Obamacare also raised the cost of healthcare significantly. When it got shoved down our throats a friend of mine what her insulin co-pay disappear. She was having pay something like $1000 per month for insulin. She had just lost her job at the time and was having to use credit cards just to buy insulin.

At that time I was working as a contractor and was responsible for my own healthcare. I watched as my premiums doubled under Obamacare.

So, yeah, people weren't getting denied. That was replaced with unaffordability. More people ended up being uninsured than before. And on top of that they had to pay a fine for not being able to afford healthcare.

Then it came out that the purpose of Obamacare was to totally screw up healthcare so much that they could then shove government run healthcare down our throats. That would have happened but Hillary lost the 2016 election.

Healthcare has always been unaffordable, and for the super poor aca pushed them to medicade, and for the super rich it didn't do anything but make them pay full cost for private insurance plans. It was basically meant to give access to people who were bearly above the poverty line, or individuals who had no healthcare access through work, and made enough to qualify. It also set the 26 age limit for all insurers instead of 18. Great for college kids with working parents who have access to good insurance.... In general insurance has always jacked around with people's health. What Obama care did accomplished was misdiagnosis, fraud within the healthcare system, and a mental healthcare takeover. It was a opportunity for guinea pigging people into medicine, and giant kickbacks to doctors for prescription drugs, unnecessary medical treatments, wrong or delayed diagnosis, and just a major say it's this, or that, no the person is crazy, don't try to find a diagnosis, put them on lifetime of unnecessary mental health medicine for life.... At least that is what I've observed. Even children are controlled by medication, and I can't remember it being that way before Obamacare.

Super poor yeah. What about the regular poor? They're the ones who suffered the most under this nightmare. A nightmare that NO ONE was having. NO ONE wanted Obamacare. It had at most 40% support from the people.

It was SOLD as a plan to help those living at the poverty line but it didn't help anyone. And shifting those people to Medicare was a sin. Do you understand just how crappy Medicare is? That drove Medicare premiums up.

I'm not saying we had it great before Obamacare. But the problem there was Democrats and their nonstop regulations they put on the insurance industry, all in an attempt to force single payer/government run healthcare. They made coverage shrink and premiums go up.

If you guys could ever drop this Marxist crap about the government running everything, then we would have a much more prosperous life. We might even be able to afford doctors coming to our homes to treat us, like it was before the Democrats stuck their nose into other people's business.

But that's the way narcissists think. Everyone must be controlled. You can't trust private businesses to work in the best interest of those who are paying their bills. Get the government out of anything to do with healthcare period. There should be zero laws even mentioning healthcare.

Free the market and free the people. Free the people and you free the market. The people are the market.

Jan 20, 2015 just cannot come fast enough.

The problem with the law in healthcare is this., when a pharmicutal company injury occurs, and it's caused by a defect pharmicutal drug, or device, the states have laws that differ from a federal law protecting the pharmicutal company, leading the injury to a failure on the doctors part, but the doctor is protected as well by laws, because the doctor would have no information on why a pharmicutal company recommends a defective or dangerous product. The companies also fail to inform prescribing doctors of possible risks to patients, which with every prescription the literature will have information for the patient and prescriber. When a person is injured by a pharmicutal company, most of the time they have become immune because the states have written laws protecting them.... As far as my experience with the aca, it was more affordable than my employers insurance at the time, what was stupid was having the employer option and not being able to use the tax credit for employer coverage. Even with Obamacare and employer insurance I had medical debt. And Medicaid through the state was forced to be expanded because the aca couldn't accommodate those making 10k or less, so the application was sent to Medicaid causing states a work load problem. I personally think a government that protects the people is worth it, but greed and corruption, corporate monsters with rights above citizens, is a huge issue today. If our government went back to operations like the did in the 1700s maybe it would look different... Still a wild West ..

Who created those laws to protect the pharmaceutical companies?

I want ALL laws, every last one of them, that has anything to do with any part the healthcare industry, including the pharmaceutical industry, repealed. I want all laws, every last one of them, that protect ANY corporation repealed. I would love to see a Constitution amendment that forbids Congress from making any laws that protects, harms or controls any private business, regardless of size.

Let the free market cause businesses who mistreat their customers lose business and be forced to close their doors. That is how we used to be but people voted for corrupt politicians and then Marxism crept in and the relationship between the public and private sector started working in unison.

So all of the problems you mentioned were not caused by capitalism but by corruption and Marxism. But Marxism is just so intrenched into our society now that most people just think that some of the worst parts of Marxism are American ideals. There is just so much blind hatred of the free market, or capitalism (a word defined by Marx). So many people think that presidents or CEOs of businesses are only driven by greed and have no other motivation. They think the purpose of industry is to screw people over while "stealing" their money.

And there are so many laws and regulations imposed on businesses these days that it makes it very hard for them to even earn a profit. And that causes businesses to have to do things they would not otherwise do just to be able to pay their creditors and employees, especially if they are not willing to play ball with the government. And that just perpetuates the myth that all heads of businesses are exclusively motivated by greed.

This is not to say that there are no greedy businessmen and businesswomen. Greed is a human failing and a lot of people have a problem with it. The amount of money they have has nothing to do with it. That is why the poorest people in the country play the lottery. They want that huge payoff. The lottery is driven by greed.

Greed, envy, theft and all sorts of corruption is getting worse because people have dumped morality.

Greed is one of the reasons why a business colludes with the government for protection from their own customers. This is why the pharmaceutical, food and other industries produce absolute crap that we have no choice to use. It is all about the corrupt of public-private partnerships.

The ACA is a market place for private health insurance. You know, that thing conservatives keep insisting will drive prices down? Yeah, that.

It isn't a healthcare plan like universal healthcare.

You know, that thing that Republicans refuse to even consider.

Read my comment again.

And how the maid program is being pushed.... Homeless,,,, option to kill yourself,,, lost your limb ... Option to kill yourself.... Have the flu .... Option to kill yourself ..... Need a treatment it will be 6 months.... But their is a option to kill yourself.... Kid has ADHD..... Option to kill your kid... Like seriously it's getting that ridiculous in Canada.

oh? How many?

And then how many are denied in the US? Then as a 3rd point of comparision, how many people can't even afford those same procedures even if they are approved?

My sister's leukemia was successfully treated in Canada. The same treatment in the US would have cost 200-300k WITH insurance. This was over 20 years ago. She is cancer free to this day.

That's fantastic. I am glad your sister is doing well.