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in 2016 he got 62 million votes, in 2020 he got 74 million , that is 12 millon more votes, not 5 million.

my bad, I think I got the 5 million was how many more votes Biden received, which was the most votes in U.S. history. There has to be some all-time record how Biden went from, supposedly, the "most popular" President in history to the "most unpopular" President in about 1 year's time.

roger that

you cant fleece sheep using facts

Yeah, but twice as many votes? That doesn't seem possible and anyone who thinks Biden got more votes than Obama needs their head examined.

No election contest in American history has had 923 fact witnesses sign under penalties of perjury and stake their personal freedom in testimony to attest to the irregularities and legal issues found in various states.

Oh, btw...

List of presidential candidates by votes in one election:

Candidate Year Party Popular vote

Joe Biden 2020 Democratic 81,283,501
Donald Trump 2020 Republican 74,223,975
Barack Obama 2008 Democratic 69,498,516
Barack Obama 2012 Democratic 65,915,795
Hillary Clinton 2016 Democratic 65,853,514
Donald Trump 2016 Republican 62,984,828

Okay... keeping in mind "record voter turn-out," how many votes does it take for Joe Biden to get more votes than Obama?

From your list of numbers of votes above, it looks like it takes about 15 million more votes, particularly at 3 o'clock in the morning.

First time ever... but now we know what happened because of a FOIA request... proving those extra ballots came from 1 UPS facility where they don't handle first class mail...

I showed everyone my numbers; care to show everyone your time-table documentation? I'd be happy to cite my source, btw.

Six states changed their election laws two months before the 2020 election by executive fiat, instead of going through the proper channels in the legislature. That is a violation of their state constitutions and that in and of itself is enough to invalidate the results of the 2020 election.

In Pennsylvania, counties allowed new ballots to be filled out after the election.

Brad Raffensperger (RINO) and GA Secretary of State allowed over 10K+ mail-in ballots in Cheatham county to be accepted in 2020 and counted after the deadline date. This is another serious election violation.

Is it? And you saw the postmarks on the envelopes? I mean... you know the determining factor is the mail-in ballot being sent, post-marked before the deadline rather than when received, right?

Yes, it was reported by local GA news back in 2020. You may not be aware, but after the 2020 election in GA, there were almost 100's of affidavits from election poll workers reported election law violations, like the accepting and counting of mail-in ballots in Cheatham and Fulton county postmarked after the deadline date. Not to mention, in central GA, election workers reported receiving boxes of "mail-in" ballots that were clearly never mailed through USPS.

Got a source? None of the things you mentioned generate any hits.

You must be using google.

So you can name a particular search engine that will return hits on the topics in question?

Personally to this day I have absolutely no belief that anyone in the United States of America has ever cast one single vote for Trump. Not even as a prank.

you may not all recall this, but in 2016, Trump ran against Hillary Clinton. it was assumed by many that she would win handily, given Trump's inexperience and personality issues. so the electorate treated it as fairly a 'normal' election. in 2020, after four years of Trump, the liberals and independents could anticipate the unacceptable price of a second Trump term, thereby galvanizing a larger percentage of their number to turn out. Trump supporters recognized the coming wave and they too turned out in record numbers, but not enough to win the day.

so there's nothing mysterious about Trump losing, despite a large increase in his voter support. i normally wouldn't mention it, but you did ask.

Nailed it.

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That does seem to be the case, but MSM and the Dem party aren't interested in finding out how did Trump gain over 5 million new voters in 2020 considering the relentless attacks 24/7 against Trump for 4 years then. The Dems and MSM haven't changed their party platform of only anti-Trump, so it's possible that Trump may gain even more new voters this year.

i'd say it's likely, but there's not an infinite number of voters to attract. each side must eventually plateau. another task is too woo the most voters from the other side. i bear in mind that since the 2020 election, Trump staged a coup, the total number of covid deaths passed one million, and Trump's Supreme Court majority struck down Rowe vs. Wade. those facts will inevitably shft more voters to the Harris side than anything good or bad that she has done herself. the final nail in the coffin i think is that most newly registered voters since 2020 are young and female. they'll likely identify more with Harris than anti-choice Trump. but we can talk about it all day. let's wait and see.

Yup... statistical analysis proved the cheating...

did you do that analysis yourself? if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself.

It's called science...

Okay, care to show everyone documentation of this alleged statistical analysis?

crickets

well, no. statistical analysis is a branch of math, not science. and was the 'statistical analysis' performed by objective parties, or by people with a stake in the conclusions?

Sorry... it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt the election was stolen.

and yet for some reason, the vote counts were certified by all states, red and blue, and by the GOP-led Senate, and the 'evidence' somehow was never broadcast to the American public in any clear and irrefutable way. it's a heck of a thing.

THE 'FEDSURRECTION' WAS PLANNED TO BYPASS THE "DEBATE CLAUS' OF THE ELECTORAL ACT.....

PLAN B WAS BACKUP....THE PIPE BOMBER....AND "HEELS UP!" WAS A PART OF IT BEING AT THE DNC AT THE TIME THE DUMMY PIPE BOMBS WERE FOUND.....

Aaaand there's the fallback to foil-hat conspiracy theory talking points...

So Whitmer, I mean XiaoJia, dems have never staged anything for political gain?

Oh, no doubt they have; politics is very much about gaming public image. That said, 1/6 happened because Trump whipped up his pet dullards and sicced them on the Capitol much to some of their subsequent imprisonment. As for the pipe-bomber, until that individual is caught and subjected to a badge-forward colonoscopy, making noises about who -if anyone- was pulling the strings serves no purpose beyond whipping up more pet dullards.

Not to name names, but I happen to have specific, first-hand knowledge of a particular right-wing commenter participating in this particular meme's commentary exchange who failed at kindergarten-level shape recognition.

A few factors changed between 2016 and 2020:

1) the voting age population grew by 8.2M
2) turnout increased from 54.8% to 61.5%.
3) we'd lived through 4 years of a Trump presidency

Combined, this meant Trump got around 11 million more votes than he did in 2016 while Biden got around 15 million more votes than Hillary did in 2016 (and of course, she received around 3 million more votes than Trump did that year).

I basically agree but I also had a random thought which lead me to.......

Darko's Completely Half-baked Conspiracy Theories (that nobody asked for 😝) Episode #638:

Trump actually called every single Secretary of State in all 50 states to get them to "find votes" for him..... His failed effort in Georgia is just the only one they told us about!

Dun dun duuunnn
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We know he and his goons were strong-arming anyone they could, but there seems little point to contacting anyone in the states where the outcomes were heavily to one side or the other.

So probably another 5-10 above the obvious battlegrounds.

Fair enough. Blue states would probably be more likely to try and f*ck him over by recording and releasing the call too.

Anyways this concludes Darkos half-baked conspiracy theories for now. Tune in next time.
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So just how many voters in total were registered to vote in 2020?

There were 256 million voting age Americans, 168 million of whom were registered, and around 155 million showed up at the polls.

I'm sure you have a nonsensically innumerate point to make?

So according to that over 92% voted when you said above the turnout was 61.5%

Thanks... you just proved dems cheated...

That's because voter turnout is measured as a percentage of the total voting age population, not registered voters.

You might have been able to figure that out from context clues.

The turnout rate in the 2020 presidential election was the greatest since 1904.

Yup... the election was stolen...

1940, 1952, 1960, 1964, and 1968 all had higher turnout percentages - do you just make shit up and think "yup, that sounds good"?

Not what MIT said... sorry

An appeal to authority when the raw numbers are readily available - are you scared of data?

nah... I think you are...

The denominator one chooses to calculate the turnout rate depends on the purposes of the analysis and the availability of data. Usually, VEP is the most preferred denominator, followed by CVAP, and then VAP.

Sure, % VEP is the preferred denominator - since 1980.

The problem is you made a claim of "since 1904", which we only have % VAP data for.

Maybe you should try understanding what you're feverishly copying and pasting instead of foolishly assuming it supports your argument?

Data Sources

American National Election Studies

The United States Election Project

U.S. Census Bureau—Voting and Registration