Enemies of religion

I was going to say religion is a philosophy, but then I remembered philosophy is a tool to seek truth by asking questions, whereas religion is run by tools who assert truth and punish people for asking questions.

Calling religion a philosophy would be like smearing shit on a mirror and saying it also provides a surface to look at, so they both must be the same kind of thing. Which might make sense, to someone whose person and whole world view were shit to begin with.

Need to include logic as one of the enemies!

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Perfect!

My favorite thing about Western Science and the scientific method was it's discovery by Christians.

Let's say for the sake of argument that you're correct. So what? It doesn't mean that Christianity is true, nor does it mean the Bible stories are supported by science.

And it's also a fact that the majority of scientists today don't believe in a personal God like the god of the Bible. Obviously, that doesn't prove that God does not exist, but it does show that modern day scientists don't have to believe in a God an an explanation for things.

Ah yes, you're here to say that your favorite thing about science is that religion gets to take credit for it. That's objectively appalling. You care less about what science has done than with who gets to sign their name at the bottom? Do YOU even know anything else about science than what the church has spoon fed you? You've presented zero evidence of that so far. You've certainly made some bold claims about me, also with zero evidence. All you've succeeded in conveying is that you're religious. So, again, why are you here? Trying to sway hearts and minds? Finding those data points on yourself first would be a smart start. Ah, smart, that's going to go over your head...or through it. Maybe stay in your lane, theist.

Religion at war with itself as usual. The church was also great at claiming credit after the fact.

Sure buddy. Whatever you say! What do you say we go get you some new crayons, huh sport?

Lol, patronizing me won't change church history, or its anti-science leanings. Kinda makes you look dumb though. More truth in advertising than I'm accustomed to from religious apologists.

If you truly think what you're saying is accurate, then I feel not only sorrow to you but anger to the ones who lied to you

Here you go:
The bible and science … because, you know,
Bats are birds Deuteronomy 14:11-18
Insects have four legs not six Leviticus 11:21-23
Hares chew their cud Deuteronomy 14:6-7
Unicorns DO exist Job 39-9-12, Psalm 29:6, Isaiah 34:7 (no re-interpreting in light of actual, real "science")
Saytrs also exist Isaiah 13:21
Men can walk on water Matthew 14:22-33
You cure skin diseases with the blood of birds (one left alive), some cedar wood, scarlet yarn and hyssop Leviticus 14
A person can survive inside a whale's (or fish's depending on which book in your bible you read) stomach for three days without oxygen while wallowing in stomach acid-- entire Book of Jonah
Dead seeds can germinate, live seeds cannot 1 Corinthians 15:36
Evil spirits are the cause of:
- Muteness Mark 9:17
- Hunched backs Luke 13:11-13
- Convulsions and seizures Mark 1:26, Matthew 12:22
- Hulk like strength Mark 5:2-13
The earth is only 6,000 to 10,000 years old (according to orally passed down and conflicting "genealogies" that were written down many centuries later)
Long hair can make you superman! Judges chapter 13 to 16
Plants were created before the sun Genesis 1:11-19
And my personal favorite: you can mate two white sheep to produce stripped offspring by making them look at stripped tree branches while they’re mating ... Genesis 30:37-42

There is no doubt, those who claim the bible supports science are brainwashed. The bible was written by middle eastern goatherding shamans and the fact that people believe it is the "word of god" today is astounding.

I can't wait to see how he spins your latest evidence as an excuse to continue taking victory laps in the padded cell of his own diseased mind.

I’m almost convinced he’s a troll just stirring things up and doesn’t really believe the drool he’s slinging.

It must be hard to conjure up a cogent response to all that so you resort to this? LOL. Keep believing in your Chronicles of Narnia, talking animals, hands that appear outta nowhere to write prophecy on a wall for Daniel to read, magic trees (one could make you know the difference between good and evil and another could make you live forever!!!!), humanoid creatures with wings that live in another dimension and have magical powers (and protect you while driving), and all your mythic legends.

And remember, all the myths from all civilizations in history ... from the Egyptians to the Mayans to the Greeks to the Chinese to the Norse to the Russians to the Irish to the Native Americans are little more than imaginary stories written to explain their world as best they could ... but all Jewish Myths are 100% true, believable, and backed by science. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Grow up.

Nice deflection.

Arguments from Authority are hilarious. But that’s all the Rabid_Rabbi has.

I'm wondering if the ego came prior to your surrender of free though to atheism or if its a direct result of your surrender of free though to atheism. Maybe it's like a 1-2 punch kind of thing: like this worldview preys on those more vulnerable to self-inflat3d egos and it lures you in my inflating it and flattering your sense of self-importance.

You don't have an answer for what I wrote so instead you resort to ad hominem. That much is obvious. You are a sad delusional human brainwashed by your silly religion.

It may come off like I don't have an answer because you haven't/didn't say or ask anything of value based in reality. Like how thos all started out with me pointing out the historical FACT that Christianity developed the modern scientific method and that the great scientists of the West were Christians and instead of embracing it you deflected and denied. Behabior right out of delulu land.

Aaaaand you still have no answer. It's not that it "comes off like you have no answer" YOU HAVE NO ANSWER. Period. Try again. This time with logic and reason and the science you claim Christianity invented.

"Christianity" developed NOTHING.Guys who were born into a Christian family happened to develop science. You could say the same thing about being European or white or male. You're solely focused on the idea of who invented science as if that gives any validity to Christianity. It doesn't. Arabs developed algebra so ... what? A Christian developed the scientific method (which was later used to disprove Christianity's most cherished beliefs). Your argument has no valid premise therefore your conclusion that the Bible/Christianity is backed by science is wrong. Oops, I used logic which you'll now claim was invented by someone born in a Christian family so therefore as an atheist I'm delusional because I used logic.

Think. It isn't all that hard. All you're doing is trying to use a singular event in history to validate your belief in magic and myth.

The bitter waters were a fair sight better than what witches got: if she drowns she was innocent and anyone still living is murdered for good measure. Also courtesy of Christianity!

Aaaaannndd STILL in megalomania-delulu land. Trapped in an endless cycle of self-inflating your ego so much that you genuinely think using outdated, weak arguments is doing something. You actually think you're smart because you believe in...nothing. You can't live with the fact that atheism contributed nothing, so you cope by congratulating yourself on your beliefs in nothing, which is also why atheists best contribution by far to discourse is mockery and memes.
Yall deflect to mockery because anything else would mean facing your own arrogance. But arrogance isegos rhe very foundations of your beliefs.
It would mean shattering the illusion. The myths you've created that explain...nothing. Christianity is what inspired Christians. Christians are whom discovered western science. You know science? The thing yall pretend to care about and pretend to k ow anything about. Uall don't do science you don't even know how. You aren't even studying science. That's the worst of it: you pretend to cheer on science because you wear its face around like a skin-mask.

You have the most vapid and pathetic reasoning I’ve ever encountered. And as a Christian for five decades, I know all your tricks and how you deceive yourself and others. Good luck. You can’t answer one. Single. Question. But resort back to your classic Christian ad hominem attacks. Pathetic. And I guess the Holy Sourit inspired your statement ignorant reply. YOU and the reason many people leave the faith. YOU. You’re the worst kind of Christian. You drive people away with your silliness, ad hominem attacks, illogical reasoning (oxymoron, I know), and blatant attempts to hijack a conversation. You’ll reply with yet another vapid and empty ridiculous response. But at this point, I really don’t care. You are the worst kind of Christian on earth. Your fate is empty. You don’t follow anything that your Bible instruct you to follow. You have a faith that is more interested in attacks than in drawing people to your Christ.

Deal with it.

Again. You have nothing but myth and fable. So you can repeatedly reply about MY ego but yours won’t even consider the shred of possibility that you’re wrong.

No, YOU were making assumptions about my "ego" while avoiding every single mention of the horrors of your religion. Oh, and I looked up quite a lot about the history of the scientific method ... LOL -- you should be massively embarrassed at the outright LIES you told ... and the lies you believe. I'd recommend sackcloth and ashes for at least a week.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_scientific_method

Let me move that mirror out of the way guy. You and I were having a discussion about that skyscraper ego of yours. Now where we're we?

He doesn't know what he's talking about. Like, he doesn't know what the topic of conversation is. It's rare to see someone so driven to flaunt the dearth of their intellectual capacity. I've seen plenty of fools in my day but it's hard to believe anyone could legitimately be that daft. It's also hard to imagine anyone could be simpleminded enough to find these antics amusing for lols. But there it is.

You actually typed out the words "bwahahaha?" Even after typing all that L? U hinged bro. This right here is why atheism is so cringe. The blatant, unhinged, reality-denying delulu it causes like this.

Your grammar is almost as bad as your reasoning.

I'm beginning to think he's just a troll. No one is this stupid. Not even the super-religious.
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Bacon wasn't Christianity. Bacon was a Christian. Just like how you are not idiocy. You are an idiot. See the difference? Conflating membership of a set with the set itself is pretty ignorant, scientifically speaking.

Religous bacon is wild

Unless you're Muslim. Then you have to settle for religious shawarma.

Does your deflection come with a costume and a nickname? Like the world's cringest, failed superhero!
-Ego Man
-the Reality Denier
-the Human Cope
-Captain Cringe
Feel free to chime in with your own ideas.

You also didn't say Christianity discovered science. You said Christians discovered science. I've already warned you about the danger of conflating a member of a set with the set itself. Evidently you are unable or unwilling to learn. I'd laugh if you weren't so sad.

Or maybe you're just coping THAT hard XD

Actually that's what you've been getting wrong: I said both are responsible for the discovery of science. Feel free to laugh...it's all you can do and all you can offer. It does nothing. You know, nothing? The thing you believe it? The amount of science and philosophy you've ever done? The contriubitions to the sciences atheisms made? Nothing?

So Christianity is responsible for the thing that disproved it. Kind of poetic. Too bad the irony is lost on you.

Some more copes for your stash:
-Christianity is responsible for the development of Western science including the modern, scientific method.
-Almost all of the celebrated scientists of old who contributed to it were Christians (or religious in another way).
-Your love of science/philosophy is phony, because you only pretend to like them in order to appear smarter than you actually are. (IMO: That goes for most cringe, internet atheists who contribute nothing to modern academia.)

The only coping I've done is trying to make any semblance of sense of the drivel spewing from your damaged brain. I've given up trying to change your mind, because I can't change what isn't there. But you are good for a chuckle, so you're not a total waste of space.

Have you tried not being egotistical? That usually helps people with persuasion. Or...O don't know, NOT denying reality just it's inconvenient for your delulu's.

There's no ego left to be had--youre hogging it all. So much so that there's no room in your cramped little mind for anything else. No facts, no evidence, no capacity to coherently address comments or ability to engage meaningfully in discussion. Just a whirlwind of self-aggrandised, hypocritical, mindless snark. You're boring.

I'm wondering in what universe Einstein was Christian. 🤣

Apparently the Rabid_Rabbi actually IS rabid (rabies affects the brain) because his premise is that anything a Christian has said in history is true because one of them, a couple hundred years ago, realized how the scientific method works. That means at all of Christianity is true and therefore he doesn't have to explain any of it's most embarrassingly bad ideas, actions, or any of the results of those actions.

He has explained nothing but his delusion is on full display.

In the same universe Newton, Boyle, Faraday, and Mendel were. Keep coping.

You're the one putting reality on trial. Where's your evidence? Put up or shut up.

Unless you like the intellectual equivalent of smearing feces on yourself and parading around like a homeless mental patient. In that case, as you were.

*Yawn*. Like listening to a really annoying brick wall. Why don't you blow my mind and type something worth reading.

But yes, thank you for admitting Bacon was a devoted Christian. I appreciate you can at least admit it when it phrased in the form of almost-insults.

Bacon did what he did in spite of Christianity, not because of it. Where in the Bible does it say anything that would lead to the scientific method? I'll wait.

You'll be waiting a long time ... remember, this is the religion that believes you can find out if your new wife is a virgin by scraping up the dust from the temple floor, mixing it in water and making her drink it. If she dies, she is not a virgin. If she lives, she is a virgin.

Also; LOVE that your example to prove me wrong was Sir Francis Bacon: the Christian founder of the modern scientific method! Unhinged self-take downs are my favorite!

I'd try to change your mind, but you've demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt that it's completely made-up. 🤣

What does cold, sweet cope feel like when it's coursing through your veins?

That wasn't an attempt to prove you wrong. Things aren't true just because you say they are. That's magical thinking emblematic of your scientifically illiterate, religious mindset.

Be careful calling my religion scientifically illiterate: it's what gave birth to modern science after all. You, on the other hand, and your friend have never done a scientific thing in your lives. I mean, you sure talk like you do but thats where internet atheists actual participation in science ends: talk. That's the most cringe part of it: you pretend like you're scientists and philosophers but you're not. You pretend like you love science and philosophy but you don't. Yall are posers.

So you either think Einstein was Christian or you think he wasn't a great scientist. And all you can do is project your own ignorance, arrogance and lunacy on everyone else. Got it. Carry on with your pointless, deranged prattling.

Well the thing is you can't prove reality wrong. It it was it is, it needs no defense. I don't know why you keep throwing Einstein, a Jewish man, into the mix like he's relevant, but I love the false conundrum you're trying to put me in. It shows you have nothing left.

I've used numerous scientific tools in this convo. You've just proved you're incapable of recognizing science when it's spoon fed to your dumb ass. You do seem to think you know everything about everything though, which according to Socrates means you've actually learned nothing.

You don't use scientific tools in conversation. You'd know that if you'd ever done a scientific thing in your life. I'm ded!

Cute! Invalid but cute!
It's amazing what you can get people to say when you can threaten their livelihood or their lives. You can get them to admit the sun revolves around the earth even!

You've clearly never heard of Galileo or Copernicus either.

Wow, you can't even remember what you yourself said. Stands to reason the things said by other people are so far beyond your grasp.

That's neither in dispute nor part of the discussion. Of course the loathesome despoilers of the western world were encouraged and subsidized by the church. Christianity has that blood on its hands whether it wants it or not.

Oh man. Thats not your everyday, ordinary delusion..that's advanced delusion. Something no historian, archeologist, theologian in their right mind would ever agree with. That's going to take a lot of therapy to bring you to reality, buddy.

Clearly you're unfamiliar with conquistadors. Nice projection though. Now tell me I'm the one projecting and your laughable logical fallacy will be complete.

Stick to the facts bro, if you understand the difference between them and "sincerely held beliefs".

People like you don't even care about science. You just wear science Fandom as a severed-face and parade around wanting other people to think you're smart. You're not a science enthusiast, you're a choose-your-own-adventure science-abuser.

If your intention is to deflect with triple-distilled projection then you're crushing it. If you intended otherwise then you evidently don't know your head from the ass it's stuffed in.

be careful with the words please. Hannibal just explained his point of views

It's ok, this conversation went off the rails of "good faith" a couple comments ago. Even if he can't say anything of value, he might still be arrogant enough to make a fun chew toy. Everyone has something to offer. 😆

So you're comeback is basically "nu uh you're proj3cting" and then, without rebutting, walking away to a crowd of people that already agree with your delusion?....wow. you really showed me. I've learned me lesson for sure. BTW western science was discovered by Christians still and thag doesn't go away with memes.

And you responded to my quip about evolution with a bunch of spaghetti thrown at a wall. All of which fell off, not that you're capable of seeing anything but what you want to see. Why are you here again?

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