Biden isn’t racist

IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM FIGURING
OUT WHETHER YOU’RE FOR ME OR TRUMP, THEN YOU AIN'T BEING RAISED BY A SINGLE MOM.

Biden has dinner with a black family:
"ermagherdd... racismMmMm!!!"

Comment about "chicken and watermelon eaters":
15 upvotes.

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The funniest thing is that Biden actually did do that. The idiots serving as his handlers actually recorded it as a political advertisement piece. The clueless leading the mentally brain-fogged.

He sure did.
He sat down and ate dinner with one of the millions of families he helped via student loan debt forgiveness.

AND THEY WERE BLACK 😲

AND THEY ATE CHICKEN 🤯

Lulz

Wait, let me guess; you actually think you made a telling point.

"Telling" ? Idk.

One thing that might be interesting about this to me though is.... did they even actually eat fried chicken? Or was that narrative kind of... made up.... ?

I mean from the actual video I saw chicken fingers..... but I am not sure I saw actual fried chicken (aka bone-in KFC style chicken.)

There's a really good A I fake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn8AN0QiQZA

The deep fake was funny but the idea of Biden seeking out a black family to have dinner with for a photo op is just as racist of Biden as the deep fake is.

I seriously doubt Biden has ever had a black friend. He's always been a racist.

Biden isn't a racist. He said that Poor kids are just as good as white kids. How is that racist?
<said with dripping sarcasm>

Apparently Joe Biden also attended a protest with "mouse".

What if they didn't seek out a family because of their race... What if the father of said dinner family, Eric Fitts, was someone who got student loan debt relief thanks to Joe Biden and who happened to be black?

Would it be racist for you to assume he just went there because they were black?

Exactly what I was going to post. The assumption is.... (I can't say the word or it's 48)

Its also unclear to me if there even was fried chicken there..? Idk. 🤔
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I watched the video and I think he mentioned "chicken fingers"... which is like chicken tenders/ nuggets...which is different than the KFC style bone-in sterotype fried chicken the OP is portraying.

Well, I did learn today that I am of a different race than indicated on my birth certificate, given that I actually like fried chicken, and have myself partaken of KFC. Take that, Ancestry.Com!

Ancestry.com tests though.... slightly less grease. 😝

Oh, wait a minute, I DIDN'T vote for Joe Biden, I voted for Jo Jorgensen. If you don't vote for Biden, you ain't black!

I just found out eating chicken determined I'm one race, but not having voted for Biden means I'm not that anymore. I'm so confused.

Technically "if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for Joe Biden or trump...... you ain't black".

Sounds like you didn't have any problem figuring out you're for neither one of em... so I guess the possibility remains.

Hmm....

Did trump let you rent an apartment in the 1980's...?
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I plead Trump's favorite number.

Fair enough

And it just so happened that a camera crew mysteriously showed up to film this event....

There isn't a politician alive in any type of position of authority who doesn't do anything without worrying about their image. Okay, maybe there might be 1 or 2 but the rest of them spend more time making themselves look good than they do making the country better.

More and more blacks are coming to the realization that the Democrat party has just been using them. Manipulating them for votes. They have done anything for blacks other than give them platitudes.

However, they should be grateful that neither Democrat or Republicans have done anything for them. Reagan was right when he said, "The scariest words in the English language is I'm from the government and I am here to help." We are far better off when the government stays out of the way of everyone. Rich, poor and everyone in between, we all can have a more wealthy life without the government constantly sticking it's ugly, deformed, runny nose where it doesn't belong.

Iconic, given that Reagan stated that while occupying the highest office in said government.

ironic*

Yes it was iconic but I think you meant to say ironic.

I don't see anything ironic at all about what Reagan said. It's not like he was a dictator. The dictatorial power of the president started with Obama.

Reagan knew the "government is not the solution to all our problems, it's the problem." (paraphrased from another Reagan quote).

Reagan tried to make the government less of a problem and more accountable to the people. He wasn't trying to be the problem like so many before him and everyone after him.

No, you meant Nixon.

The Heritage Foundation's Project 2025, in which Trump will complete the Republican dictatorial takeover of America, is the latest in what began with them during Nixon, albeit as reactionary to some of his policies. They took off with Reagan, and it was their policy suggestions he took many cues from.

Nixon???? The man that took us off the gold standard??? The man who opened up trade with China?????

No sir. I do NOT mean Nixon.

Technically speaking, it was Woodrow Wilson who began the descent into a dictatorship (or more appropriate and oligarchy, because dictatorship are rarely alone when controlling the people).

Wilson hated the Constitution and extremely frustrated by the lack of power the president actually has. So he began creating administrations, agencies and bureaus. All run under the executive branch and allowing the president to alter how businesses were run and what people could or could not do. The most egregious agency he created was the IRS (it was called something else back then, I can't remember what it was called but it became the IRS).

But it was Obama who through executive orders and executive actions began to regulate private citizens and private businesses. Bush Jr came close to that when he created the Dept of Homeland Security and his Patriot Act but that dept isn't at far reaching as Obama's dictatorial powers.

It was Obama who gave the NSA the authority to record every form of electronic communication the citizens made. Congress stepped in and limited, but didn't end that.

Then Obama passed into law the Defense Authorization Act of 2012, which gave the government to indefinitely detain a US citizen under just the suspicion of being a terrorist. There was no trial, no due process, no legal representation. It was a complete and total violation of the 4th and 5th amendment AND it's still around. This is what Biden used on the J6 rioters and protesters. And from what I understand there are still people being held without being charged and with no trial date.

So whatever the Dems are saying about Trump being a dictator he can only do that because of the door the Dems opened.

I'm not fond of Trump. He used executive orders like Obama did but he's not the monster you guys make him out to be. The monsters reside in the Democrat Party. Biden already IS a dictator. He even threatened the American people with the military if we tried to use our right to over throw tyranny.

It's not exactly like Nixon is a name that's readily confused with that of other presidents.
We're talking about the modern era, he tried to consolidate power in the executive.

Skimming through, skimming through...

Technically speaking, it was Lincoln who started the trend. Or is it Washington? Following cues from Hamilton, again empowering the executive office, steering for big centralized government... The Federalist Party they sired was the ancestor of the Republican Party.

Obama wasn't President in 2005, W Bush was. The Patriot Act was his baby, or rather Cheney's, excuse me, the Heritage Foundation's.

I know it's really tragic that Obama wanted terrorists to be arrested, but it was Lincoln that suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War. That you seem to be unaware of this is....... curious.

Obama issued the lowest number of Executive Orders since Grover Cleveland a century and a quarter prior. That's 276 over two terms - 8 years. An average of 35 per month for both.

Trump issued 220 Executive Orders. In one term. 4 years. Average 55 per month. That's 20 more than Obama per month, and just 57 shy of surpassing in one single term what it took Obama to issue in two.

Trump tried to steal an election. That's unprecedented in US history. That's what wannabe dictators do.

"So now Obama DIDN'T lock up the political opponents and any citizens he felt like like you said he locked up?"

You keep a database of everything everyone says. Go search your database and find the comment where I said Obama locked anyone up. I'll wait.

"It's YOUR party fella, going back over a century and a half. Literally."

I know of no time in the history of this nation when members of the Constitution Party locked anyone up.

The same is true of the Libertarian Party.

The Republican Party? Maybe, but you'll need to show me that one.

The Democrat Party? Does right now mean anything to you? I don't have to go back to the times when your party was throwing blacks in jail or lynching them for the crime of being black. That's your party. Not mine.

Biden locked up up over 10,000 peaceful protesters and rioters. Many of the rioters where prosecuted and tried. But they only rioted because the Capitol Police started shooting rubber bullets and flash grenades at them, just to get them to riot. The rest of the people he locked without trial or charges.

But you know this and either you don't care or you don't believe it. My guess is you don't care. You probably think everyone who disagrees with you should be executed or at least sent to reeducation camps.

That's your party. That's your people. That's your ancestry. That's your state. That's your wannabe breakaway federation. That's your history. That's what you call your pride. That's your legacy. That's your quote about having ancestors that literally owned slaves.

When you were a child it was legal to lynch my ancestors - my parents - in your state. Your family moved away when that changed. You called that change - that desegregation - "Communism." Your family switched parties then.

My mother couldn't vote in federal elections when you were a child. My father couldn't even vote in any election till I was in preschool.

Try again. Without the IMAX projector.

"But hey, I'll play. Post a list of at least some of these 'political opponents' Obama had arrested as terrorists. I'll wait."

You seriously think that Trump is going to round innocent people up and put them in prison?

This is a leftist scare tactic. I've been hearing from much more than just you that you all think that Trump is a dictator. I want to know what dictatorial actions Trump took in his first term?

Obama, as far as I know, he didn't. I never said he did.

But just look at what the Dems are doing to Trump right now. You guys are working overtime trying to invent new crimes to charge Trump with.

YOUR party are the ones who are trying to put your political opponent in prison right now and you DARE to question me about Obama when I never ever at any time said Obama put his political opponents in prison.

Your probably convinced that Trump is a criminal and yet not one single charge has ever stuck. It's not because he's Teflon, it's because the charges are bogus. Like the one about his property being appraised to high. That's just silly because it wasn't Trump doing the appraisal but your Banana Republic Democrats just won't stop at anything.

The whole world can see what you guys are doing. They know that every single charge levied against Trump is based 100% on your party's political motives and not any crime Trump committed.

The Democrat party has become an embarrassing laughing stock. But that won't matter. They have laundered billions of dollars through Ukraine to help steal the next election like you did in 2020, like you almost did in 2016, and like you did in 2012.

So now Obama DIDN'T lock up the political opponents and any citizens he felt like like you said he locked up?

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It's YOUR party fella, going back over a century and a half. Literally.
Not mine.

Try again.

Or rather, don't.

Is it my ancestry or my belief in freedom for all that makes you want to lynch me or is it both.

What you failed to understand is ideologies. Outside of the Democrat Party people think for themselves and have all sorts of ideas about lots of things. I know this is hard for you to understand but people outside of the Democrat Party make their own decisions about how to live their lives.

What this means is, while I do have two ancestors, that I know of, who owned slaves it doesn't mean I have to support slavery. One of my ancestors was a slave. He gained his freedom and at some point after that he owned slaves. He was both slave and slave owner. And he was white. Let that sink into your pre-programmed brain.

"When you were a child it was legal to lynch my ancestors - my parents - in your state"

You've said this once before. I want you to show me the legislation that violated the Constitution that made it legal to lynch anyone for any reason. I'll wait..

BTW in 1838 the State of Missouri passed an extermination order to legally murder people who were members of the Church I belong to. That law was finally rescinded in 1976.

The 14th amendment both freed the slaves and made that extermination order invalid.

I really just cannot fathom the mental anguish you have to go through to accuse me of participating and supporting lynching when I was less than 1 year old. But I suppose in you mind I was crawling around doing all sorts of racist things. Because, in your mind, that's what babies do in Georgia.

I don't remember my first year of my life so maybe I was the one who prevented your mother from voting. What did I do to stop her, did I throw up or let a real big stinky one in my diaper. I must have done something for you to keep bringing up this nonsense over and over and over. Hey, you live in NYC. How is it that I, as a newborn baby stopped your mom from voting in Georgia. Methinks thou might have Southern ancestry and you're still a Democrat. Hmm .. how many blacks have you lynched today? Oh no...are you going to flag me for that comment. Oh boo hoo. Another 2 day suspension. You see how this works don't you? You can harass me for years about my ancestry but the moment I say the slightest thing about you I get the suspension, not you. Maybe I should start flagging your comments?

BTW what does any of this have to do with the people who are currently being indefinitely detained for no reason at all by your president?

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tl;dr

Your party.
Your history.

Not mine.

But please do continue to heap on additional material about what Southerners did for centuries as some sort of nefarious plot by a political party that forced them all to act in a manner alien to the rest of the United States of America - even those in Union, etc, state States who are members of that party as well. I'm sure you'll eventually convince me of how nocomplicit they were in their own deeds against other people simply because of race and religion because projection/deflection/confession is truly that effective!

"Obama wasn't President in 2005, W Bush was. The Patriot Act was his baby, or rather Cheney's, excuse me, the Heritage Foundation's."

This is what happens when you skim. Go back and read what I said.

"I know it's really tragic that Obama wanted terrorists to be arrested, but it was Lincoln that suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War. That you seem to be unaware of this is....... curious."

What is tragic is WHO Obama was defining as terrorists. The Defense Authorization Act of 2012 was not about indefinitely detaining non-citizens suspected of being a terrorist. It was about detaining CITIZENS of the United States of America.

In case you are having some problem with the concept of indefinitely detaining US citizens then go and find a copy of the constitution and read the 4th and 5th amendments.

We can pretty much do whatever we want to NON citizens, but US citizens are protected by the Constitution.

But what is far more horrifying is WHO the Obama administration was calling terrorists. Former police, former military, people with a Ron Paul sticker on their cars and a whole litany of ordinary citizens that Obama hated.

That's why peaceful protestors and riots on J6 were rounded up and were being held without being formally charged of anything, without allowing them legal council, without a court date, without ANY of the protections guaranteed by the Constitution.

Look I get it. You hate these people so you feel it was justified. But that is where you are so horribly wrong. Because when a government has this much power they will use it on anyone, including you.

Not everyone that was being held were involved in the riot, so there's another violation of the Constitution. You, me and everyone has a Constitutional right to protest ANYTHING AT ALL. It does not matter if you agree with the purpose of the protest.

The vast majority of the people in Washington DC on Jan 6th 2021 were peaceful protestors. They were not involved with the rioting in the Capitol Bldg. Some of those people Biden had rounded up.

BTW you didn't need to go to the effort of posting that chart of presidents and the executive orders they signed. It is not the number of executive orders that they have signed that I have a problem with. It is the purpose. Up until Obama executive orders were used to establish policy of how the executive branch will run for that president.

Obama wrote orders that affected the lives of everyone. That's what dictators do.

What's the point?

It was already established that you were posting fanfic propaganda.
Do you think by simply doubling down on it and more than doubling up on the wordage that's supposed to somehow convince me or anybody else that the facts are somehow not factual?

But hey, I'll play. Post a list of at least some of these 'political opponents' Obama had arrested as terrorists. I'll wait.

"They have done anything for blacks other than give them platitudes."

I'm going to assume you meant *haven't and apparently I wasn't clear enough in my previous comment....Eric Fitts, the father of the family Biden had dinner with, WAS someone who got student loan debt relief... thanks to Joe Biden.
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The fact that Biden forgave the debt of this family and then showed up with a camera crew was just a political stunt. And you fell for it.

Student debt forgiveness is something that should never ever happen. Democrats just keep working as hard as they can to achieve a total financial collapse. Spending money we just do not have as fast as they can.

If someone is sooooo stupid that they think that their college major will allow to earn the kind of money to pay off those massive debts then that is their problem. There's just no fixing stupid, even with a college education. They fully deserve the debt they incurred and yeah, it sucks, but they should have thought about that before the jumped into it.

We really need to get over this idea that everyone must have a college education. Those days are over because tuitions are out of control. Trade schools, community colleges or just plain reading books to learn skills on your own. People need to learn to start their own businesses but learn that outside of college.

And for goodness sake, Stop majoring in worthless majors. If people want to be a doctor or a lawyer then go for it. If they are a history major they're never going to pay off that debt. So instead of going to college to learn history, they should go buy history books and read them. If they have questions there are groups online that they can join and discuss their questions.

College is NOT the only way to get a higher education. It used to be the most convenient way until tuitions skyrocketed out of control. People never even have to set foot in a college to take the bar exam in any state. They just have to know the law and how to argue it. They don't need a college for that.

So stop pushing for everyone else to pay off those foolish student debts. It's irresponsible and wrong. We should not be punished for their mistakes.

"The fact that Biden forgave the debt of this family and then showed up with a camera crew was just a political stunt."

This might come as a shock to you but Joe Biden has forgiven student loan debt for millions of Americans. He has done more for student loan debt forgiveness than any other president. It's not like he just forgave this one man's debt, and then showed up with a camera to give a false portrayal like he did something when he didn't.

"And you fell for it"

First y'all said I "fell for it" after I voted for Joe Biden and his initial effort to forgive student loan debt got struck down by the courts.

He kept trying and ended up being able to forgive the debt of millions and now you're saying I "fell for it" because he had dinner with one of the families he helped.
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And for the record, I would've had no f*cking idea that this dinner even happened in the first place except that the right came here making a bunch of memes crying about racism. 😂 ....So then I looked into it and here we are.

Forgiving student loan debt is a great way to help out working and middle class people with jobs. Going out and reading books on your own is a great idea too... but... when you're applying for a job, "degree" looks a lot better on a resume than "I read a lot of books".

"This might come as a shock to you but Joe Biden has forgiven student loan debt for millions of Americans"

This may come as a bigger shock to you but the Supreme Court ruled that unconstitutional. I don't know if Biden's plan actually made it through our if SCOTUS stopped it in time.

"Forgiving student loan debt is a great way to help out working and middle class people with jobs."

Is it great? Is it really? Just how much more tax burden are you guys going to impose on the middle class working people or future generations of middle class workers?

So now we all get to pay the tuition of the few idiots who can't do simple math. Yay!!!! What a thrill it is to give the government more money while the government is working harder to devalue our currency, making prices go up.

And who feels this squeeze the most? The poor and middle class. Good job Democrats, good job. Why to wreck the economy.... again!

Not sure wtf you thought I was talking about up there^ but no... clearly I'm not shocked. I literally just referenced it.

The initial way Biden tried to do it was struck down by the Supreme Court. So he found a different way to do it.... Think "Muslim Ban" 7 years ago.

"Is it great?"

Yup.
These aren't homeless addict "do nothings" as some on the right call them.... These are people who actually went to college to better themselves, do something, get decent jobs, and pay into the tax system. Many of them are middle class working people themselves.

But what's wrong with getting a job at the Walmart like a wide swath of people do?

Well.. one would hope that people wouldn't go get student loans to go to college, graduate or drop out, and then just go work at WalMart... idk

"Think "Muslim Ban" 7 years ago."

The Muslim Ban???? You mean letting unvetted mostly males between the ages of 18 and 30 (ya know, army age), into this country is constitutional??? Is that what you are saying.

The Supremes have made some colossally bad rulings (Roe v Wade) and have made some great rulings (striking down Roe v Wade). When there are too many liberals on the Court then Court becomes a 2nd Legislative Branch for things that cannot get done through Congress. Which, by the way, violates both the spirit and the letter of the Constitution. But libs never care about that. They only care about getting their way, the Constitution be damned.

Where in the Constitution does it give the president the power to take money from the people to pay off student debts? Congress could legislate that but they shouldn't. It is unethical, but then went have Dems ever cared about ethics?

Just so you know, neither the Executive nor the Judicial Branches have the authority to make legislation. So when Biden, through executive orders, tried to do the job that is only entrusted to those who we have sent to the government to represent us, then it is the right and duty of the Legislative and Judicial branches to shut that down. UNFORTUNATELY, that so rarely happens. And all of that is not just the Democrats faults. If it the fault of the spineless Republicans AND the Democrats. Far too much power to legislate has been amassed by both the Executive and Judicial Branches.

The fact, as you say, that Biden found and end run around the Constitution... AGAIN, does not make it any better.

We must make the government do the will of the people again. Otherwise, we are in a dictatorship or rather an oligarchy where two branches of the government and an unresponsive Legislature make laws without any consideration for the people.

Paying off student debts is wildly irresponsible. It is a continuation of the enslaving of the American people. We work for the benefit of others while we suffer not being able to take care of our own selves. And by constantly being forced to take care of others, it only makes it harder for us to take care of ourselves. Then the Dems concoct some new spending debacle to put a band-aid on another problem they created.

This is just basic economics.

"These aren't homeless addict "do nothings" as some on the right call them"

Just because you heard one guy say this do not assume that all of us think this way.

I mean the "We're no longer calling it a 'Muslim Ban' Muslim ban".

Trump campaigned on doing it... then he tried to do it.. then SCOTUS struck it down...somewhere along the line he asked Guiliani how to do it. And eventually they renamed it and he found another way. Similar to what Biden did with student loan debt relief. He found another way to do it.. around the courts.

"...then Court becomes a 2nd Legislative Branch for things that cannot get done through Congress. Which, by the way, violates both the spirit and the letter of the Constitution."

😂 Come on mann you serious? The right's plan for DECADES has been to pack the court to overturn Roe v Wade as part of their slow march to banning abortion nationwide outside of Congress.

I understand you feel like overturning it was a good thing or ruling or whatever but I disagree and most of America agrees with me.

So when i see you say "we must make the government do the will of the people again"... I'm like... Really? I guess I agree.

But back to student loan debt.. I hear there is (or was at some point in recent history) $100 billion+ worth of student loan debt attributed to people who are 62+ years old. These are people approaching retirement age who probably have been trying to pay it back for 30 years.

So theoretically.. and I'm not sure if the math/logic behind this checks out but.....

If you got a $40k student loan @ 5% interest and have been just paying the 5% interest for 30 years, you will have paid back $60k... yet still owe the entire $40k you originally borrowed. So idk. Cancelling debt like that doesn't exactly seem "wildly irresponsible".

On the other hand, if someone else took out a $40k loan, immediately dropped out of school, spent the money, and paid back nothing... THAT would seem irresponsible to forgive.

But to be clear I'm not sure how realistic either of these^ theoretical examples are.

This is my last reply. I'm just tired of looking for one of your posts that has a reply left on it. Most of them don't. Plus it is pointless. You just brush over what I say so I'm really just wasting my time.

"There are some rules but you are legally free to physically leave. Far as I know slaves could not leave unless someone else bought them."

Yes, slaves could not leave the plantation legally but that didn't mean that they didn't try. In addition Virginia passed a law that slave owners could not free their slaves.

What is not reported in the leftist history revisionism is that there were a few slave owners who, once they got to know their slaves and understood that they were human beings they freed them. That is why Virginia had that law.

There were other slave owners who came to the same realization but kept their slaves but just made life a little easier on them.

Leftist history revision ONLY paints one picture. Everyone owned slaves and everyone hated them. They will never ever tell you that there were many slave owners who were black and owned slaves. There were white slaves from Ireland and Scotland. The change from indentured servitude happened because a black slave owner sued in the English court for the right to own a black slave he had as an indentured servant.

Indentured servants sometimes were servants for a set number of years and then they were freed. Many poor Europeans became indentured servants to pay off their passage to the New World.

"Sure there are taxes.. and with eminent domain, if the government wants to it can basically buy your house, land, etc and kick you out whenever it wants to."

It was when the Supremes had a liberal majority that they expanded the eminent domain laws to allowed the government to just come in and kick you off your land.

"I'm actually talking to someone else here and they apparently had their loan forgiven and they think it was fair and they're on the right. So I guess THERE is the fairness. Cal58 or something like that."

On the right still doesn't mean they understand simple economics. There are a lot of people "on the right" who are clueless to economics and because someone on TV said it was okay they'll believe them.

How many years has this simple site function regarding comment chain limits been explained to you?

"Yes, slaves could not leave the plantation legally but that didn't mean that they didn't try. In addition Virginia passed a law that slave owners could not free their slaves.

What is not reported in the leftist history revisionism is that there were a few slave owners who, once they got to know their slaves and understood that they were human beings they freed them. That is why Virginia had that law.

There were other slave owners who came to the same realization but kept their slaves but just made life a little easier on them.

Leftist history revision ONLY paints one picture. Everyone owned slaves and everyone hated them. They will never ever tell you that there were many slave owners who were black and owned slaves. There were white slaves from Ireland and Scotland. The change from indentured servitude happened because a black slave owner sued in the English court for the right to own a black slave he had as an indentured servant.

Indentured servants sometimes were servants for a set number of years and then they were freed. Many poor Europeans became indentured servants to pay off their passage to the New World. "

........So to recap: slaves legally could not leave unless bought or freed as opposed to us... who ARE legally free to leave. (assuming you're not in jail)

Anyway was that an actual response to me or more of a rant about alleged "leftist revisionist history" which i see you mentioned twice?

Well the SCOTUS is majority right wing now, so if they thought it was wrong theoretically they could "fix it".

Ok explain the simple economics behind why forgiving someone's loan who has already paid back 150% of its value would be "wildly irresponsible".

"So theoretically.. and I'm not sure if the math/logic behind this checks out but....."

Let me stop you right now before you go down this idiotic rabbit hole (well actually I'm too late)

The left has always justified themselves with the argument that it's only costing pennies. But they keep piling on one social program after another. And now it's costing us thousands of dollars.

Seeing how your party was so fond of slavery consider this. If slavery is defined as taking by force the products of ones labor then at what percentage is it no longer considered slavery?

Remember, even back in the days when you guys supported slavery the slave owner didn't take 100% of what the slave produced. The slave owner had to feed, clothe and house the slaves. They had to give medical attention to the slaves. Slaves weren't cheap and that's why only the rich owned them. It was less expensive to have a doctor to tend to them rather than just buy a new slave.

So even in the days of slavery the slave got keep 10-25% of all they produced.

Today we are forced to give a percentage to out task masters in the Federal Government. At what percentage is it no longer slavery?

Is it 50%?, 40%?, 30%?, 1%?. Up until 1913 we kept 100% of what we earned. Democrat Woodrow Wilson started this new form of slavery. Since then the left has been imposing more and more taxes, IN ADDITION to income taxes. We work for the government now.

We are slaves

And you want to justify adding a few more pennies to our burden???? You can kiss the part of my body that's pressed against my chair and you can also kiss the part of my body that my shoes are covering.

"The left has always justified themselves with the argument that it's only costing pennies."

In my example a profit was made.

"you guys supported slavery"
Nope.

And no.. taxes aren't slavery. You're free to leave.

I "can kiss the part of your body pressed against your chair" ???
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"And no.. taxes aren't slavery. You're free to leave."

Are you? It costs about $2,000 to expatriate and the government takes half of your savings and any other liquid asset. And if I remember correctly the government requires you to pay income tax for two years in the country you expatriated to.

No, you are not exactly free to leave.

And for those of us who have no intentions of leaving, if we fail to pay income tax then we go to prison.

Where is the freedom part you are talking about.

You can never own a house because the county governments all demand property tax. If you refuse, they take your land and house from you.

You work all you life paying income tax, then when you use what you have left for anything you are taxed again, multiple times on money that has already been taxed.

When you retire and collect Social Security they take income tax out on you social security checks.

Then Democrats always raise taxes and tell us that we must pay our fair share. Where is the fairness??? Why must I pay anything at all to the government?

There are some rules but you are legally free to physically leave. Far as I know slaves could not leave unless someone else bought them.

Sure there are taxes.. and with eminent domain, if the government wants to it can basically buy your house, land, etc and kick you out whenever it wants to.

I'm actually talking to someone else here and they apparently had their loan forgiven and they think it was fair and they're on the right. So I guess THERE is the fairness. Cal58 or something like that.

"'Are you sure about that?'

Yup. You could look at polls.. or you could look at what happened after Roe got overturned. Every time abortion rights were voted on, abortion rights won.... America won. Republican politicians stfu about abortion because even they know it's a loser issue."

Like I said, it depends on the question asked. If you ask "Is abortion murder?" the majority will say yes. If you ask, "Should women have a right to choose?" then the majority will say yes also.

Either the majority are evil and cruel who believe that women have the right to commit murder OR the populous is easily confused.

BUT you entirely brushed over the point that matters most. You see, the majority of Democrats once supported slavery. By playing the popularity game then if the majority of Democrats again supported enslaving blacks, then would that make it right? Well, the answer for Democrats the answer will always be yes. Democrats have no morals and will believe whatever they are told to believe.

So to answer the popularity question for Democrats, slavery is still a possibility.

Slavery, Native American genocide and abortion are the greatest crimes against humanity the American people have ever committed.

When you rip a baby to pieces to get it out of the womb the fact that you can't hear it cry in terror and pain doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The process of abortion is the worst horror imaginable.

Those who support it are still relying on the medical knowledge from half a century ago to justify their butchery.

Supporting the murder of human life at any stage of a person's life is psychopathic, sadistic and horribly narcissistic.

It doesn't matter is abortion had 100% support of the American people, it doesn't make it right.

You're no different than Baal worshippers in history who sacrificed babies to Baal.

Nope. Doesn't matter how the poll question was asked.... every time it was put to a vote, America said we want abortion rights. You can think it's wrong and Baal or whatever but your view of the morality or immorality of our society changes nothing.

I brushed over what you said about that because 1. you seem to be at odds with your own claims. 2. Equating Southern democrats / Dixiecrats from the 1800s the with modern democrats is like equating Mitt Romney with trump.

Should the government do the will of the people or not?

"I understand you feel like overturning it was a good thing or ruling or whatever but I disagree and most of America agrees with me."

Are you sure about that? Abortion has always had a minority support. What you think is a majority is the popularity it has with the entertainment industry and the media.

And it also depends how the question is asked when the polls are taken.

But popularity isn't the point is it. If you took a poll about abolishing slavery back in the early 1800's you would find a majority of people who would be in favor of it. That doesn't make slavery right or moral.

Murdering human beings just because they are an inconvenience is also not right or moral.

Just like in the days of slavery the Democrats tried to justify it by saying slaves weren't humans. That's the same excuse the Democrats give for infanticide.

And if anyone complains about legalized infanticide then the left is right there with the ridiculous arguments of 0.001% of the were it endangers the mother's health. ALL pregnancies endanger the mother's health and in the rare incidents were the mother stands a very possible likelihood of dying then giving birth actually is the best chance of saving the babies life.

The Democrats just do not value human life. They never have. That's why they fought a war to keep slavery. They circumvented Congress and the states and legislated Roe v Wade through the Judicial branch.

But that's not the only example of leftist justices violating the Constitution, there are several, including gay marriage. The courts had absolutely no authority to legislate gay marriage.

And you worry about the right packing the court???? There has never been a conservative dominated court that has crafted legislation. Because conservatives believe in the Constitution and we follow it.

In case you missed it, because the Supreme Court has a conservative majority now Biden has been talking about appointing more justices. Packing the court with more people who use the Constitution as toilet paper.

"Are you sure about that?"

Yup. You could look at polls.. or you could look at what happened after Roe got overturned. Every time abortion rights were voted on, abortion rights won.... America won. Republican politicians stfu about abortion because even they know it's a loser issue.

"But popularity isn't the point is it."
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"We must make the government do the will of the people again."

🙄 If you didn't mean popular then it would seem you don't believe some people are people...

Anti gay marriage..?? You really gonna bring that one up too? Bro throw in tax breaks for the rich and youll have the trifecta of wildly unpopular Republican policy. 😂

"I brushed over what you said about that because 1. you seem to be at odds with your own claims. 2. Equating Southern democrats / Dixiecrats from the 1800s the with modern democrats is like equating Mitt Romney with trump."

Brushing over what I said is not going to inform you enough to make a valid reply.

Dixiecrats didn't exist during slavery. They were not trying to bring slavery back, they were just racists who wanted to exclude blacks from their lives.

Equating ALL Democrats from the 1800's to modern Democrats is not much of a stretch with one exception. Democrats prior to Woodrow Wilson actually loved this country. Since then you can count the number of Dems who love this country on 1 hand.

Dems today are every bit as racist as they were in the 1800's. They still believe in slavery. What is different is they just changed their approach to everything. Today's Democrats seek to manipulate blacks for votes and support and that is all. After that they couldn't care less about them. They think their too stupid to get a voter ID.

Slavery, which I explained to you but you probably just brushed over that also, is still a central part of the Democrat platform. It's changed a whole lot but it is still slavery. But slavery is slavery regardless.

Dems don't believe that an individual should be a slave owner but they very much believe that the government should own everyone and everything. All We The People have been turned into is a money source. They take and take and take and when they get tired of taking they take some more. But we are not just a money source, money is just one of the tools they use to control us. That is what all of these taxes are all about, power and control.

"Should the government do the will of the people or not?"

Yes the will of the people should be respected by the government, EXCEPT when it comes to life, liberty, property and the pursuit of happiness.

If you hadn't just brushed over it you would have read that I said that in the 1800 the majority thought slavery was good.

WAS IT? Should the will of the people override what is moral?

And, yes, you can legislate morality. We do it all the time. It is immoral to murder, steal, lie, etc. All of our natural laws are based on morality.

It is simply not moral to murder a baby.

But then what do you lefties ever care about life anyway? A lot of people on the left believe that people in certain age groups are less valuable to society and should be euthanized.

"Dems today are every bit as racist as they were in the 1800's. They still believe in slavery."

If you want more reasons why I brush over large segments of your replies, it's bullsh*t like that.^

The south are the ones who haven't changed much except labels. southern dems, to dixiecrats, to republicans....who are now doing stuff like contesting federal orders to stop gerrymandering out black voters.... and fighting to KEEP statues of racist traitors up (or as you seem to put it, people who "loved this country").... restricting all forms of immigration (legal and illegal) as much as possible.... and so on....

If your main fear in life is basically "white replacement theory" there is no logical reason you'd ever vote blue in 2024.

And to circle back to the original conversation... Biden has dinner with a family who's debt was (partially?) forgiven, and the right seems to immediately make it about race.....blatantly dragging in the "fried chicken" stereotype into it ( was there even fried chicken actually there?? Or just chicken fingers?), you come here and immediately (falsely) assume biden never had any black friends, turn the conversation into some sh*t about slavery, and then claim the democrats are racists.. 🙄

" They think *they're too stupid to get a voter ID. "

Source?

I've heard minorities and young people are generally less likely to have ID, and might also tend to be less wealthy than others (assuming the IDs wouldn't be free) but I don't think I've heard about intelligence.

And if that is your argument about slavery it kinda seems that could be used to claim having a boss at a job is slavery.

You are a labor source, they profit off of your labor, they take as much as they can, and when you die they just replace you with another one. Doesn't matter if you can legally leave... Slavery has changed but it's still slavery. You believe in slavery.

Ok so making exceptions for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is legit... cool. I've determined that banning abortion might interfere with a woman's pursuit of happiness. Case closed.

Percieved value would have nothing to do with euthanasia far as im concerned. If you're a terminally ill in constant pain, it's morally worse to force you to remain alive than to allow an abortion of a fetus.

I'd say most laws are about government imposed protection of us.. not morality. For example it isn't morally wrong to drive 110 mph on the freeway instead of 65mph. But it IS illegal.

The Fed took steps to strengthen a dollar under Biden, as per his wishes.
But you already know that.

It was W Bush and Trump who sought to weaken the dollar. W did it ostensibly to stimulate the economy, but he also had two ongoing unpaid for wars to pay for.

Yes, they did. But more recently because an election is coming up. And that's the ONLY reason the Dems did that. They slowed money printing and raised the interest rates to slow the inflation down a bit. When they steal the 2024 election they'll go right back to destroying the economy.

They have to. They've been given their marching orders to collapse the economy.

False.
But you already know that, as we've been through this many a time, and you've repeatedly tried to deny it.

Trump not only had key interest rates lowered, he actually wanted them to go into the NEGATIVES - basically pay business to borrow money.