democrats victimizing law-abiding citizens for the sake of criminals.. again.

I said it before on these types of images, coloring a map means nothing if you don't take into consideration the demographics of the individuals that are actually committing the crimes. People commit crimes, not the state itself.

Again modda , you're using colored swatches over a country that has a population of over 350 millon people. Lets take my home city Chicago, 2.5mill+ people, safe relatively until you go to areas that are populated with certain demographics. An over view->

My point is that chicago is relatively safe because of our huge population, However, most of the crime comes out of certain areas, That is why I bring up the demographics to counter your point and that the over lay of colored swatches you use to compare crime in states as insufficient evidence. Here -> 2014 July 4th murders

If you walked these streets of these areas that all the crime comes from you would see my point is 100% correct

What, no upvotes?

Yes, it does,, and it has been coming from them and their culture since before England threw their garbage away here.

Excerpts from the 1st link in the list of articles I posted above.

Crime comes from everywhere. And bottom line is, not only is it not restricted to certain cities or neighborhoods or poor folks, there are regional tendencies going back to when England dumped its criminal class here.

You might have to skim some till you get to some pertinent historical facts here, but it ain't the first time I've come across this info. Bottom line, when a people have been referred to as "***** Trash" for centuries, there might be a reason for it. They're not just a class, but are of a specific background:

https://leightonwoodhouse.substack.com/p/black-culture-matters

Crime does come from everywhere, but a disturbing amount comes from certain demographics .. going by the crime statistics from the FBI.gov/crime, it is impossible to dispute.

I think the problem is far more current than something that has to do with what England did 2 centuries ago. In fact I think it started more in the 1970s in Harlem when individuals realized that there was far more easy money in drugs than education and going to work, this has been a pillar in the culture in question. Prior to that you had legislation starting initial steps of destroying the central core family of a mother and father in the home by paying women to have children out of wed lock, which is still in full effect today. I know there is a large and fundemental disagreement between you and I regarding culture ,crime, and where the fault lies.. but I am sorry my man, the numbers are on my side regarding this issue.

"I never said that, but here's why I'm doing it yet again...."

Either you done did it, or you ain't.

I ain't got time for backpedaling.
laterz.

That was hard for me to upvote, but I am a man of my word lmfao- Take care bro

No, I didn't, you did.

You were attempting to make this about race, with a cultural component. In order to prove you right, I highlighted one in the South known for it before even landing on these shores, carrying the crime figures with them to areas they migrated to too.

I've provided facts, you provided anecdotes centered around how a gentrified area of a city isn't as bad as the parts left to decay.

We had the same thing in the Lower East Side, for example. Till the 80s, when it too started to become gentrified and the city consequently decided to step in and clean up the graffitti and boot the crack dealers. pfffft, it's been happening in Hunts Point, of all places, as well as other parts of the South Bronx. What was once the worst place on Earth (till Beirut in the 80s) and became a synonym for urban decay, is now getting shined up.

You know what else we have too? We have a trailer park. In Staten Island. I kid you not.
Strangely, it isn't festooned with meth, prostitution, theft, and eau de septic tank, unlike areas where trailer parks tend to be a thing. When you picture trailer park, what do you picture demographically? Where would you feel safer, here, or there? Housing costs are cheaper there and throughout Red States, btw, as is most of the US compared to Chicago. UHaul awaits.

I never brought "race" up as the problem, not once. I only spoke about cultures.. "thug life" is a cultural cancer that infects all races.. it just seems that it is revered the most by african Americans.
Why Africans think "thug life "is something to strive for.. who knows.. maybe because it is an easy life style compared to getting up and going to work everyday. Again , I provided nothing even close to anything anecdotal, you have been taking examples from here and there and ignoring the entirety of the issue and that is never going to address the cultural problem. That is my final point I will make, This thread has run its course for me, but if you like.. take the final word and i will read and upvote it.

You weren't even upvoting my comments before, just one I asked why not.

Honestly, I wasn't paying attention. When you brought it up, I made sure to upvote each one. I didn't want to be discourteous.

Drugs go farther back than the 1970s and Harlem, and again, so does the continous cycle of criminality, dropouts, and unemployment traceable back to Britain. Ever hear of Moonshiine? THAT Appalachians were able to do.
Foodstamps became a thing because of them as well as other measures used in the "War on Poverty," yup, right there for Appalachia.

You were already provided with numbers, including those I myself worked out, but hey, I'll play. Post it. Show me how Alaska doesn't have the highest per capita rate of violent crime in America. You know what, let's see how Chicago compares to that small town Georgia where that OP said the same exact thing you said. 2017, and I'm still waiting for his rebuttal.
Post it. I'll wait.

But since you prefer the anecdoatal route, here's some for your perusal, from my former stomping grounds (years after I was gone):

https://www.altscene.com/forum/view_post/37930

There is nothing anecdoatal about crime stats and cultural relevance to crime. Those are the things we are discussing. Of course drugs go further back than 1970, but the embracement of thug life in the black community does not. You keep pointing to "Appalachians " as the root cause of crime in America, White culture doesn't strive to be white trash, infact we abhore it, we do everything in our power to not be considered white trash, but "thuglife culture" is regarded in the highest esteem within the black community. We truly can not honestly try to blame the rampant corruption in the welfare programs, crime, and cultural degradation on a tiny fraction (26 mil) slightly over half the the black population, on them. As for Alaska, I have no idea what is going on out there, it could be the isolation or the odd time schedules, who knows.. but trying to use one state as a basis to dispute cultural cancers, crime, and criminal mentality from coast to coast .. is anecdoatal.