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socialist absurdity | “I HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY
IT IS "GREED" TO WANT TO KEEP
THE MONEY YOU HAVE EARNED; BUT NOT GREED TO WANT
TO TAKE SOMEBODY ELSE'S MONEY.” | image tagged in communist socialist | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
843 views 53 upvotes Made by CraigThompson 6 months ago in politics
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10 ups, 6mo
Especially when money you "earned" is given willingly to you while money taken for use by others is effectually stolen from you.
3 ups, 6mo
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2 ups, 6mo
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2 ups, 6mo
Because is easier stole the money than earning it
2 ups, 6mo
All money is someone else's,
until you receive it one way or another.
2 ups, 6mo,
1 reply
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That’s exactly why capitalism sucks. It ensures those with unearned wealth continue to rob the working class blind.
2 ups, 6mo,
2 replies
Socialism sounds great. So please point to a thriving socialist country we can use as a model to create our own workers' utopia. Cuba, Venezuela, China, N. Korea?
2 ups, 6mo
3 ups, 6mo
USSR & Eastern Europe were never controlled by the US through sanctions or any other way. China's economy was stagnant until it embraced elements of capitalism. All advancements in technology have come from capitalism. Capitalism isn't perfect, but so far it's the best we have. Maybe in the future AI will take over the economy.
2 ups, 6mo
3 ups, 6mo,
1 reply
Taxes are the dues you pay to live in society.

Don't like those roads? Don't like those public lighting systems for those roads? Don't like the traffic lights? Public Parks? Public Libraries? Sewer systems? Cops? Firefighters? Education? Standing army?

Leave.

No one is stopping you.

GTFO.

America, love it or leave it.

And if you're going to say, "but all those systems are failing"

Yeah.

Because you are refusing to pay for them. You elect people who deliberately sabotage them.

so if you want those systems to work, don't elect people who destroy them and actually pay your taxes.
5 ups, 6mo,
1 reply
Wow, you really missed the point of the OP by about mile and a half.
2 ups, 6mo
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5 ups, 6mo,
3 replies
Because there are running costs to society that we all have to pay for. You use roads but you don't want your taxes to go to paying for it. You're covered by fire fighters. Somebody is paid to take your trash away to a landfill. And so on.

You want to withhold payment while still getting the benefits of these things, that's pretty much the dictionary definition of greed.
9 ups, 6mo,
1 reply
So it is "greed" to want to keep the money you earned? We have to pay for all those great government services like unending wars, and a failing education system.
11 ups, 6mo,
1 reply
Have you talked to any of these minors? It's amazing the basic stuff they don't know like who George Washington is. I have two friends with younger children. Both took their children out of public schools. Homeschooling is becoming a trend. Our schools suck!
9 ups, 6mo,
1 reply
You must live in a very affluent neighborhood. You don't seem to know what is going on in most places.
10 ups, 6mo,
1 reply
I love talking to immigrants. I have met several, and I know a couple personally. I believe legal immigration should be increased. We need immigrants since we don't seem to know how to procreate anymore. Not sure where you got the idea that I don't like immigrants. You seem to have a lot of unfounded prejudices.
10 ups, 6mo
Antithesis, you win. You successfully diverted the conversation from the OP. Why did you do that?
10 ups, 6mo
You must be thinking of someone else. I am against illegal immigration.
9 ups, 6mo,
1 reply
There are gangs in town who wander around causing trouble. Some kids busted my nose open one night. Parents keep kids from wandering around and causing trouble, not the government. Clearly, more money won't fix schools. charter schools get better results with less money. As long as politics is more important than results, poor schools will continue.
9 ups, 6mo,
1 reply
Throwing money at problems is seldom the solution. You have to find out what is going wrong and make the tough decisions. Throwing money at a broken system isn't going to fix anything.
10 ups, 6mo,
1 reply
No. Public schools are dysfunctional. Do you know anyone with kids going to a public school? Do your research. Talk to people. I play music with the father of a school-age daughter. After an incident, he pulled his daughter out of school. She is now being home-schooled. My neighbor with three school-aged daughters sends them to a Montessori school.
9 ups, 6mo
Are you OK with school vouchers and charter schools? Teachers' unions are against them. They don't want the competitions. Protecting their jobs is more important than teaching.
9 ups, 6mo
When is it time to get a new plumber? When is it time to restructure the school system based on performance or offer vouchers for charter schools like they do in Sweden?
8 ups, 6mo,
2 replies
Antithesis, you clearly don't own a house. I hired a plumber to do some work for me. I had to hire another plumber to fix the original problem and then fix the stuff the first plumber screwed up. Some plumbers suck no matter how much you pay them.
1 up, 6mo
Lol just exactly what the government does when paying someone to fix the roads. ... Hire one company, to have to hire another company, when they could have just hired its own military to fix the roads.
3 ups, 6mo,
1 reply
Why should it be a responsibility for one taxpayer to pay a lifetime of taxes so other people's children go to school? Once upon a time not long ago one room school houses existed and it didn't take millions and millions of tax payers dollars to operate. It didn't take doctorial teachers after high pay to teach schools, backed by a high paying governing chain of command. School is way different now compared to the days that educated the greatest generation. It's sad to think the greatest generation is gone along with it's wisdom. Finally the more of a populous needing the joys of contributing to society, the more services society will have to provide. So unless the government can regulate the crisis on illegal citizenship and immigration seekers. Society will have to continue to raise the amount paid in contributions towards the common good.
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2 ups, 6mo
I don't know how else to explain that how you benefit from the children in your town having a place to go and learn during the day so they're not just wandering around with nothing to do.

So. How about just, we took a vote and that's what we agreed.
4 ups, 6mo,
2 replies
I think it's greed to not disclose the total amount it takes to run these services against what is collected as a whole, and the ties to who is providing these services and who owns the services provided. One example is tax payers money going to non profits that are committing fraud, and have no governmental oversight, but get access to public funds and misapproporates those funds.
3 ups, 6mo
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3 ups, 6mo,
1 reply
They disclose their public spending all the time! They have to! You might not read it but that's a you problem.
3 ups, 6mo,
2 replies
I read about how much one school needs to operate in one district for a year and it takes 400 mil a year for one school to operate and teach 3,500 student. Idk why it costs over a mil per student to teach them for one year. Just doesn't add up.
2 ups, 6mo,
2 replies
I get tired of watching the tax bracket increase 1.5 percent every year just because of the rich white school district a house sits in.
3 ups, 6mo
And of the 40 years it's just getting worse and worse.
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2 ups, 6mo,
3 replies
Sounds like you'd be happier moving to a district with lower property taxes. Property values are quite accessible in those areas - turns out, there's not much call for houses in districts where the schools are crumbling, as it's USUALLY considered the sign of a bad area. But that works out for you as it's what you want in this case.
3 ups, 6mo,
1 reply
One does not simply sell off 500 acers to move to a lower taxed school district while feeding America.
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2 ups, 6mo
Well, then that's a decision that you've made at that point. By staying you're agreeing to the local taxes.
3 ups, 6mo,
1 reply
Ide rather move to a district with no school but somehow they still find a way to increase property tax, so that means I have to move to a state that has no property tax.
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2 ups, 6mo
What can I say? Run for Councillor, get the votes to lower the taxes yourself.
3 ups, 6mo,
1 reply
I don't find it fair to the farmer who pays most of the property tax for one particular school district, especially when that farmer has been the lineage of farmers who have farmed one area before the school district even existed. So the funding of schools and the districts they reside is a huge issue especially when it falls on the land owners to pay the taxes.
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2 ups, 6mo
I don't know what you tell you. Maybe YOU'D prefer hiring people who never went to school, but you're definitely getting a benefit by having a labour pool of people who did. You are benefiting from the tax dollars you are putting into that school.
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2 ups, 6mo
....you are correct, it DOESN'T add up.

Would you like help with your math? Or would you like to try your calculation again so that you can continue explaining how terrible the school system is?
3 ups, 6mo
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