The Liberal Perspective

1,157 views • 58 upvotes • Made by equestrian 7 months ago in politics
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[deleted]
5 ups, 7mo, 2 replies
If only Trump would endorse Hamas. Then the left would actually support Israel.
regularfeller
3 ups, 7mo
Truth ! 😄🇺🇲
Austrogressive
0 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
Biden already supports Israel. And didn't you conservatives say that Trump is the most "pro-israel" POTUS ever?



https://www.npr.org/2023/10/11/1198908539/up-first-draft-10-11-2023 



https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/lara-trump-donald-trump-biden/2023/10/11/id/1137907/ 



However, Trump called the Lebanese Hezbollah, a sworn enemy of Israel, "very smart" and accused Netanyahu of being "not prepared" for the Hamas attack, which also killed 22 Americans.



https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-says-israels-netanyahu-was-not-prepared-hamas-attack-2023-10-12/
[deleted]
1 up, 7mo, 1 reply
Way to respond to something I didn't say.
Austrogressive
0 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
Deflection!
[deleted]
0 ups, 7mo
Try to stay on topic.
regularfeller
4 ups, 7mo
Keep preachin them facts!
[deleted]
2 ups, 7mo
AmericanViking
0 ups, 7mo
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Cried_Fhicken
1 up, 7mo, 4 replies
If it's a holy war, then the only side I support is atheists.
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
5 ups, 7mo, 2 replies
It's a holy war for Islam. For Israel it is just a fight for survival. It doesn't matter if it Islam attacking Judaism, it still just comes down to the Jews fighting for survival. The Muslims fighting because Allah told them to murder every single Jew in the world.



It doesn't matter if the Jews are "riddled with corruption" as AManlyMan said, they aren't fight to maintain their corruption, they are not attacked for their corruption. They are attacked because Allah told Muslims to murder every Jew on the planet. Allah wasn't too fond of Christians either. In fact Allah hates everyone except for Muslims and has commanded Islam to kill unbelievers everywhere. 



Muslims have also grown to hate the US over the years and they want us all dead as well. Allah didn't tell them that, they came up with that on their own. We are unbelievers and so Islam, in the eyes of Muslims, they have Allah's commandment to murder us also.
[deleted]
1 up, 7mo
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Modda
2 ups, 7mo, 2 replies
LetsGo_Elect_Brandon_JR
6 ups, 7mo, 2 replies
Now go back to the 1300s.
Austrogressive
1 up, 7mo
Or even the Bible times too
[deleted]
0 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
Right but do you not realize that the Jews left and then when the wanted to come back they oppressed and forced the Arabs out?
LetsGo_Elect_Brandon_JR
1 up, 7mo
Yeah all them doctors are so soldierly they took out jihadist terrorists. People wanting to heal people pushed out terrorists that love to rape and behead people .... Boo fricking hoo. Terrorists have no place in society save for prisons and graves.
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
1 up, 7mo, 1 reply
Not a land war. Not a land war. Not a land war. Not a land war. Not a land war. Not a land war. Not a land war. Not a land war. Not a land war. Not a land war. Not a land war. Not a land war. Not a land war. Not a land war. Not a land war. Not a land war. Not a land war. Not a land war.
Modda
0 ups, 7mo, 3 replies
Graeystone
2 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
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Modda
0 ups, 7mo
No clickbait
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
1 up, 7mo, 1 reply
And do you also support Islam regaining control of the Iberian Peninsula?
Modda
0 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
You support that?



You gonna give back territory to the Utes anytime soon?
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
1 up, 7mo, 1 reply
The Utes are still here and I don't mean the University of Utah football team. There are Utes and Piutes still living in Utah. 



Did you forget, I was born in Georgia. Why aren't you demanding that I give the land back to the Cherokee? 



Are you giving your land back to the Mohican or Munsee Lanape people?
Modda
0 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
So why don't you give it back then? Didn't none other than Joseph Smith himself Bible-ize-ish their Holy claim in the Book of Mormon?



You see how this works?
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
0 ups, 7mo
No one is asking for Utah back. Utah was part of Mexico when the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints arrived and not even the Mexicans wanted this land. Nothing grew here. I don't even think the Utes spent much time here.



And actually the Federal Government owns about 65% of Utah. They own 85% of Nevada. Perhaps the Federal Government should be the ones who should be giving the land back. 



Have you even read the Book of Mormon? I mean, have you actually read the book itself and not some website that tells you what they want you to believe? I have. I don't know what your "holy claim" is.
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
1 up, 7mo
Islamic jihad is not about land, it's about global domination and the eradication of Jews.

Islamic jihad is not about land, it's about global domination and the eradication of Jews.

Islamic jihad is not about land, it's about global domination and the eradication of Jews.

Islamic jihad is not about land, it's about global domination and the eradication of Jews.

Islamic jihad is not about land, it's about global domination and the eradication of Jews.

Islamic jihad is not about land, it's about global domination and the eradication of Jews.

Islamic jihad is not about land, it's about global domination and the eradication of Jews.

Islamic jihad is not about land, it's about global domination and the eradication of Jews.

Islamic jihad is not about land, it's about global domination and the eradication of Jews.

Islamic jihad is not about land, it's about global domination and the eradication of Jews.

Islamic jihad is not about land, it's about global domination and the eradication of Jews.

Islamic jihad is not about land, it's about global domination and the eradication of Jews.

Islamic jihad is not about land, it's about global domination and the eradication of Jews.

Islamic jihad is not about land, it's about global domination and the eradication of Jews.

Islamic jihad is not about land, it's about global domination and the eradication of Jews.

Islamic jihad is not about land, it's about global domination and the eradication of Jews.
lokiare
3 ups, 7mo
Oh, you mean like Hitler?
[deleted]
1 up, 7mo
And you needed to tell your god this?
[deleted]
1 up, 7mo, 1 reply
It is very much a holy war with both sides riddled with corruption and the people on both sides get caught in the cross fire
LetsGo_Elect_Brandon_JR
4 ups, 7mo, 2 replies
False. This isn't a holy war for Israel. Judaism and Christianity left holy wars in their past. For Hamas though, they believe they will receive rewards in heaven for what they are doing
[deleted]
1 up, 7mo, 1 reply
Your incorrect, Hamas goal is to kill as many Israelis as possible, Civilians and Military, this is because the Jews occupy there land that the Jews left
Austrogressive
0 ups, 7mo, 2 replies
And if Israel no longer occupied the West Bank, then Hamas would take over West Bank just like with the Taliban taking over Afghanistan thanks to Trump
Graeystone
2 ups, 7mo, 3 replies
Um, no. Taliban took over Afghanistan the way they did because Biden screwed up the withdrawal. . .and on that note - are there still American citizens trapped over there?
Austrogressive
0 ups, 7mo
False! Biden only failed to not save everyone. Sure Biden may not be the best POTUS out there but he's certainly better than Trump. Biden is kinda weak against Trump (he's not that aggressive against Trump). But to fact check your point, Trump promised to end the Afghanistan War to which he did but in a bad way.



https://www.npr.org/2021/03/04/973604904/trumps-deal-to-end-war-in-afghanistan-leaves-biden-with-a-terrible-situation
[deleted]
0 ups, 7mo
They still would’ve occupied all of Afghanistan, sure Biden screwed up the withdrawal but either way the taliban would’ve had Afghanistan
Modda
0 ups, 7mo
Trumpty literally signed Afghanistan over to the Taliban in a meeting in which no one from the actual Afghan gov't that we crafted for 20yrs was present.



American citizens? You mean Afghans who were granted citizenship for helping us out there and have never set foot here?
Modda
0 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
No, it wouldn't. Hamas is in the Gaza Strip.
Austrogressive
0 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
I know that, but what happened to Gaza when Israel withdrew their illegal occupation of Gaza?
Modda
0 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
Israel never withdrew from Gaza. It's basically an open air prison.
Austrogressive
0 ups, 7mo, 7 replies
False. If Israel didn't withdraw from Gaza, then there would be no Hamas



https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/conflict-between-israel-palestinians-gaza-2023-10-07/
Modda
0 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
Correct, you don't know what you originally said.

And yet you persist in trying to convince me of your own muddled confusion about something that was old news before you were even born.



Same with poor Americans. Look up Appalachians, and tell me they're simply unsavvy investors.

Good grief, guy, it's an old trope going back centuries. Before there was a Botany Bay, there was that.
Austrogressive
0 ups, 7mo
Oh ok, I looked back at what I said. It was just a theory, not a fact.
Modda
0 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
No, it wasn't a theory, it was ignorance - and still is which for some inexplicable reason you persist in trying to convince me of. 



It's like if I was born today and 15 years from now am trying to tell you what Nevil Paterson (yes, I made that name up) MP of Canberra said yesterday when you were there and I was a fetus. 



Do we understand why I have a no links policy yet? Because 99% of those who post them haven't even looked at them themselves and I already know better.
Austrogressive
0 ups, 7mo
So Hamas are in charge of Palestine at the moment, and they got elected in 2006. If Israel let go of West Bank, then what do you think would happen?
Modda
0 ups, 7mo
And then he goes back to repeating the same exact bs from the exact point he said he forgot when beginning this exact ignorant nonsense.



Look, I indulge you because I felt bad for bashing you earlier this year and last. 

I'mmo exit this lest I regret regretting that and resume that course. It's just not worth me losing brain cells by the bucket over.



laterz.
Modda
0 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
Israel never withdrew from Gaza still. It's basically an open air prison still. 

No one gets in or out without Israel allowing it.



You're confusing Gaza with the West Bank.



I've been telling you for nearly TWO years NO LINKS yet you still....?
Austrogressive
0 ups, 7mo
Actually, roughly 60% of the West Bank remains under full Israeli civil and military control



https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/west-bank/
Modda
0 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
Yes, Israel has extensive settlements in the West Bank, as displayed in the maps meme I posted above.



No links still?
Austrogressive
0 ups, 7mo
I sent links
Modda
0 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
Yes, and for the nth time yet again: N-O. L-I-N-K-S.



How can you expect me to be arsed to do your homework for you if you're not willing to do it yourself? Frik, I once mentioned Jimmy Saville and you posted a link about him. Do you know how many Americans know who he is? Well, one at least, me. Hence why I mentioned him. (The reason I know about him is because a few short years ago I knew more Brits & Commonwealth folks online than Americans.)



Meanwhile, you're confusing Gaza and the West Bank, and posting links for me to......... see your confusion? Jordan used to administer the West Bank, it doesn't anymore.
Austrogressive
0 ups, 7mo
But I'm saying that Israel is still illegally occupying West Bank



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Modda
0 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
Exactly, and you said it withdrew from Gaza, hence you confusing the two.
Austrogressive
0 ups, 7mo
I was meant to say that Israel withdrew its illegal occupation from Gaza. I don't know what I said originally. You can screenshot my original comment and show me what I said wrong
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Modda
0 ups, 7mo, 2 replies
LetsGo_Elect_Brandon_JR
2 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
But surely Biden a friend to Byrd (who Biden called a mentor) and who recently used a Slaver Trader word pointed to a Black Man... Surely that's not the Nazi agenda guy, nope nosiree Bob... No, it's Trump who descended from absolutely no slave owners... 



Keep the jokes coming Modda hilarious material
Modda
0 ups, 7mo
You forgot everything from Biden against busing in the 70s to "Obama is the first black who's...." in 2008. 



Correct, Trump isn't a Southie. His ma was from Scotland, his gramps was a draft dodger from Germany.

1973 was Donny's first entrance into the public eye. Look up why.
LetsGo_Elect_Brandon_JR
1 up, 7mo, 1 reply
The Nazis in the US Support Biden and was recently caught on camera saying as much.
Modda
0 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
Because that was Unite the Right celebtrating his inaguaral, right?
LetsGo_Elect_Brandon_JR
1 up, 7mo, 1 reply
They are far left with all the other torrrists
Modda
0 ups, 7mo, 1 reply
Sure, fella, because that's what Far Right extremists are!
LetsGo_Elect_Brandon_JR
1 up, 7mo
Take the line... Far left and Far Right... Where they murder and rape and jihad and terrorize. Now bend those endpoints until they touch. Far Left and Far Right are the same thing
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