Southern Pride v. Gay Pride

LOL... Remember the time they went nuts in Seattle claiming a Norwegian flag was a Confederate flag... talk about unhinged...

Progressives hate history because it always proves they are idiots.

When you live in fear even the shadows are monsters

I reckon vexiphobia is a real thing.

I guess this also means all Scots are racist. Many Scots immigrated to the South before the US separated from England. During the Civil War, when the Confederates were looking for a flag that would not get so easily mistaken for the US flag, they decided on patterning it after the Scottish St. Andrews Cross flag. It was never widely used in the war.

After the war it became as symbol of Southern heritage. At some point it became a symbol for rebels and you used to see Confederate flag stickers on motor cycles and pick up trucks.

When the KKK and the Neo-Nazis left the Democrat party, the left decided to use the Confederate flag as a tool. They turned the flag into a flag that means white supremacy and they are relentless about this. Southerners can no longer show pride in their heritage because liberals will shut them down as racists, regardless if they are racist or not. Facts do not matter with the left.

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When the KKK and the Neo-Nazis left the Democrat party, the left decided to use the Confederate flag as a tool."

So those are Republican KKK and Neo-Nazis using the Confederate flag?

Why yes, Modda. They did join the Republican Party. They brought all of their liberal ideology with them. Perhaps the Dims asked them so they could do exactly what you are trying to do.

Perhaps they did that to put, and keep, idiotic Republicans in office. And perhaps that explains people like Mitch McConnell other liberal Republicans. Hmm... On second thought that's probably not right either. There's just not enough of them to sway the vote one way or the other.

They would have to have a bunch of Dims switch party during the primary elections to vote for idiots and then switch back for the general and Democrats would never ever do that. That would never happen, not in a million years. Except when it has.

Dims switching parties in the primaries to help their former comrades in the KKK and Neo-Nazi party is a much more plausible scenario. Why? Because I makes absolutely no difference which Democrat is running in the primaries because the majority of them are saying the exact same things as all of the other. Those who step outside of the liberal group think box (Joe Leiberman, Tulsi Gabbards, RFK Jr) have all of their campaign hopes washed away by the media who lulls the Dims back into just letting the Party do all of their thinking for them.

Did ya make this far? Just checking. I doubt it. You probably read the W in Why in the first word and stopped there.

Because the Parties "switch?" More gooder history from the Left. A simple timeline will disprove that BS. Every time Lefties reference history, they make fools of themselves.

You replied to the wrong comment.
I'm Modda.

There was never a switch.

Go on then. What criticisms do you have of the Pride Flag? Genuinely Curious

Our population is dying. Shouldn't we be promoting men, women, and families? Kids don't know how to date, and no one is getting married. There is a crisis.

8 billion people, 1/3 of a billion in the USA. Yeah, big extinction event.

"Kids don't know how to date, and no one is getting married."

Because the web has become their substitute for social interaction. Like with you.

So you are agreeing with me? Our culture needs to promote families instead of whatever the hell it is promoting now.

Freedom. The word you're looking for is freedom. Our culture now promotes the fact that people who don't have families are also welcome.

I never understood Confucius until now. The Left has nearly destroyed all social harmony. Our society is becoming dysfunctional. Kids don't even know how to f**k anyone.

"CraigThompson

I never understood Confucius until now. The Left has nearly destroyed all social harmony. Our society is becoming dysfunctional. Kids don't even know how to f**k anyone."

eww,, kids shouldn't. That's why it's illegal. In civilized places, anyways.

Where do babies come from? Socialists don't seem to know. The government doesn't issue them. One of society's functions is to arrange mating opportunities. Western society doesn't know how to do this anymore. Institutions and cultures that provide mating opportunities have been destroyed. Alternative lifestyles are encouraged while lifestyles that include procreation are discouraged. So, kids don't know how to f**k anymore.

Society owes you no mating opportunities whatsoever!!!!!!! Who told you that it did?

They watch XXX porn at an age where my gen were still watching Sesame Street and thought kissing daddy is how mommy got pregnant. And he's saying they don't know how to now?

There's a crap ton of Furries on this site - AND THEY'RE ALL IN MIDDLE SCHOOL! OR YOUNGER!
They're so jaded with regular sex that they gotta go kink at an age we weren't even allowed to use pens yet in school! They're so bored with images of real actual naked bodies they gotta seek Anime/Hentai to get off on!

Society doesn't teach or encourage kids to f**k! If kids don't f**k, no babies. Talk to anyone under 30 and you will get the idea. Boys get stoned, play video games, and don't date or talk about dating. What few that still do f**k don't stick around. A baby's daddy is not a father. Society should offer young men responsible mating opportunities, but it doesn't. Liberal ideas are destroying Western Civilization. Foreigners are coming to replace the population bringing their ideas with them. Not saying that is good or bad. It just is. I personally am not a fan of Sharia law.

Well you should be, because Sharia Law is the very conservatism you seek. Big whoop, we got a whole 70yrs on them, uh, ah, Progress[ive]-wise.

Again, society doesn't owe you squat. Find someone to have babies with on your own!

What in the Hell are you going on about?

Yous. have. substituted. the. web. for. social. interaction.

Y'all claim to be "in a relationship" with someone overseas you've only texted with; call Skypeing, "dating;" and have literal phobias of actually talking with people. On your cell phones. Let that sink in. Phobia. Of talking on your personal telephone you've had since you were 10.

You can't hook up and procreate by being in your room on the XBox all day. and night. The stork doesn't have an app.

When was America EVER a Confucianist state?????????

I never said US was ever a Confucian state. I said because of social dysfunction in the US, I now understand what Confucious was talking about.

Counter argument: What’s happening is a completely normal process called Demographic Transition, where a developed country’s broth rate and death rate stabilize with each other so that the population generally stays where it is at. It’s no crisis to be worried about, as our population will be around the same amount for years to come, give or take a few million year by year in either direction.
I mean no disrespect in my disagreement, just wanted to share an alternate viewpoint for a deeper discussion

You are in denial or not paying attention. Alternative lifestyles are not just being tolerated, they are being promoted. Two men still can't make a baby. If it was not for immigration, our population would be on the decline like Japan.

"Demographic Transition", another made-up term to describe that which "intellectuals" cannot understand nor explain.

Counter-counter argument: Do it God's way, and there is no crisis at all.

It seems pretty logical to criticize the flag identified with the defense of slavery.

Do you mean the British, French, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, or Brazilian flags? African kingdoms and countries may have had flags also. Defense of slavery was pretty common so you'll have to narrow it down for me.

you're right, all those nations have committed atrocities. But there is one flag that came into existence precisely to stand for the defense of slavery

Socialists hate history because it proves they are always wrong about everything. They must constantly edit history. Here are a couple of edits: Confederate monuments were all erected in response to Civil Rights. Democratic party "switched" because of Civil Rights? Both are easily disproven with a simple timeline. Please read "1984"

1984 was not about either of those topics

To keep Great Britian out of the war. There were Union supporters that owned slaves also. Lincoln had to be careful not to piss them off. Also, many Northern Democrats did not want to compete with freed slaves as laborers. Ok, it's really complicated, and a chat is no place for all that.

The South has always been an economic drain on the North - the cause of the actual schism, in fact, that caused the secession. The limit or spread of slavery into new territories would affect the voting balance and thus allocation of funds into the poorer South.

Not sure what you mean by "drain on the North." Because of tariffs, it was mostly the North that drained the South economically. Protectionist tariffs was another cause of the Civil War.

Tariffs? For the South? On what planet?

Research "Nullification Crisis" and "American System." North wanted high tariffs to protect their interests. It is basic Civil War history. A one-word answer for the cause of the Civil War is politics, not history.

Tariffs?

For
the
South?

The cause of the Civil War was economics. Politics was only in terms of how those economics should bent favor. The South - since colonial days, as now - has always been something of a non-profitable venture, except for some local pofiteers.

Wow. That is partly correct. I am impressed. Of course, it was more than that, but the voting balance was a huge part of why the South seceded. Good job!

Great Britain stayed out of the war BECAUSE slavery was the central issue. The British government really really wanted to spin it so that slavery was a minor side issue because they wanted to side with the Confederates as cotton exporters, but the British public just weren't having it and they furiously pressured the government to stop supplying Confederates.

False.

Read what the seceding states had to say about their reasons -- it's not the North that made it the central issue. Primary sources: https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

Yes, I have read them. Most Confederate states did not compose a letter of cause. Only GA, MS, SC, TX, VA. VA says almost nothing. The other 4 mention slavery plus many other causes.

They didn't.