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Toxic White Men | THERE WERE A LOT OF TOXIC WHITE MEN WHO FOUGHT AND DIED; TO END SLAVERY | image tagged in civil war soldiers | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
812 views 65 upvotes Made by ChadAndrewTheHammer 2 years ago in politics
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3 ups, 2y
It doesn't matter now. If you're white, you're toxic, even though African blacks captured and sold their own people.
3 ups, 2y,
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The average Union soldier was not fighting to end slavery. Research Gen. McClellan and Gen. Serman. Slavery was not Lincoln's priority either. He said so on several occasions. Both the South and the North had similar ideas about race.
1 up, 2y
So you agree that union soldiers were toxic white males?
2 ups, 2y,
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The Civil War wasn't fought and slavery, it was fought to keep the union from breaking apart
3 ups, 2y,
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The main drive of the civil war was to be able to keep their slaves (the south) and they wanted it to be a state to state issue, not federal. Lincoln and the north wanted it to be dictated on a federal level (which is where a lot of the anti Lincoln sentiment comes from, I'm guessing) and Lincoln tried to avoid war to settle it. But when the south basically forced their own government, war was inevitable.

So yes, the war was about slavery and the rights of the states (south) and the rights of the federal government (north) and who would control it. A lot of pressure was on Lincoln to free the slaves, which he did not initially intend to do, but it became a bigger issue than he wanted.l, so was forced to.

The bottom line is the war was about states rights and them wanting to control their slaves at the state level.
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The slavery issue that caused the schism was about the allowing slavery in the western territories. The Border States that stayed with the Union were allowed to keep their slaves, and were exempt fom the Emancipation Proclamation, as was territory captured by the North during the war.

" (the south) and they wanted it to be a state to state issue, not federal. Lincoln and the north wanted it to be dictated on a federal level"

The Democrat Party had wanted it to be a state to state issue, not federal. Lincoln and the Republican Party wanted it to be dictated on a federal level.
There was a split within the Dems by 1860 over the issue as well.
1 up, 2y
General Ripper (Dr. Strangelove) | BY KEEPING THE UNION FROM BREAKING APART YOU MEAN THE NORTH ASSERTING OWNSERHIP OVER THE SOUTH AND DENYING THEM THEIR FREEDOM FROM OWNSHIP   | image tagged in general ripper dr strangelove | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
0 ups, 2y
You're all such toxic people. The dispassion in which you speak about the ownership of human beings.
1 up, 2y,
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The Civil War was about the economy. The ownership of Black human beings was the economy of both the North and the South. This wasn't about the freedom of Black human beings. This was about their money. The vile slaveowners were paid reparations for the loss of their human beings. Imagine that. They were paid for the loss of ownership of human beings. Do you know what the newly freed human beings received? Nothing. Nothing. Do you know what those "freedom fighters" did? Circumvent the new law of freed human beings by promptly arresting them because the imprisoned could still be used as a free work source. This is why there are so many Black people imprisoned. Most of it, as recently exposed, was on made-up charges they couldn't fight against and all-white juries. Black people had no justice, no freedom, but they had a lot of stereotypes applied to them. This one is my favorite. Black people are lazy. Yet, Black people were the ones working. The human owners sat on the porch and drank mint juleps while directing some of the most brutal and sadistic overseers to whip, rape, and or lynch human beings. Why were Black children called "alligator bait"? I have to stop here. I can fill myself about to dump American history all over this box. Real American History not white washed by the Daughters of the Confederacy is anathema to your reality.
4 ups, 2y,
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Bullshit. There were no reparations to anyone.
1 up, 2y,
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The British paid slave owners for property loss and fought a war against African kingdoms to stop the slave trade. Africans did not want to end the lucrative slave trade. I don't know of any reparations in the US. Freedmen's Bureau bills I guess could be considered reparations but not really. That would be a stretch.
2 ups, 2y,
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After US declared independence so no cash to US slavers
0 ups, 2y,
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Masters of slaves that enlisted got paid. https://www.slcl.org/content/guide-civil-war-slave-compensation-claims-compiled-military-service-records
2 ups, 2y
Not reparations
0 ups, 2y
Looks like slave owners in DC got paid. https://aas.princeton.edu/news/when-slaveowners-got-reparations
0 ups, 2y
"The British... fought a war against African kingdoms to stop the slave trade."

That is beyond false.
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0 ups, 2y
In the US there was an enforced racial caste system that persisted until around 1980 or so. I think a lot of people are unaware of this fact or even what a caste system is. "Right and wrong" is a very poor way to understand history. Morality varies and changes so much. "Cause and effect" is a better model for understanding.
8 ups, 2y,
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About dismissing slavery. Slavery is an African institution that was adopted by European and brought to the new world. It still exists in Africa. That does not dismiss it, but it does give depth to understanding it. Unfortunately, slavery is African heritage.
0 ups, 2y
False.

It exists in the USA and the rest of the planet today.

The Greeks had slaves when they alone were Europe, as did Rome afterwards. It's in the Bible too.
6 ups, 2y
Please define "toxic whiteness."
7 ups, 2y,
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0 ups, 2y
Republicans are fine with low cost illegal manual labor
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Republicans are fine with low cost illegal manual labor
8 ups, 2y,
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Denial of what? There are plenty of gay conservatives and gay Republicans. Lots of Republicans don't like Trump. The more you generalize the less accurate your ideas are.
0 ups, 2y,
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Yet there are a lot of people who claim LGBTs to be nothing but liberals.

Might want to direct your profound and admirable antigeneralization at them as well.
1 up, 2y,
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Because overwhelmingly they are. There are a sizable amount of conservative, Republican gays (like "Gays against grooming") but if you see someone psychotically waving a pride flag, mostly naked, covered in a 3 foot deep layer of pink makeup parading around the street in front of kids, well, you don't exactly think "wow that's a conservative religious Republican."
0 ups, 2y,
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Cool generalizations you got there.
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6 ups, 2y,
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"MAGA is the embodiment of modern day Confederates?" That makes no logical sense. The Confederacy was founded to create a new nation. MAGA is a populist slogan created by Donald Trump. Please study a little basic history before you post.
0 ups, 2y
So you’ve not been keeping up with Marjorie Taylor Greene?

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-refuses-back-national-divorce-proposal/story?id=97390020
7 ups, 2y,
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"MAGA exists in an echo chamber?" I don't like Trump and I don't identify with his nationalist movement, but your arguments have no logic. They are all purely emotional and vague.
6 ups, 2y,
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Then please try to explain in detail what you mean with logic. I'm not attacking you. I just don't understand what you are trying to say. What have Trump and MAGA got to do with the Confederacy? MAGA is a nationalist movement. The Confederacy was the opposite.
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6 ups, 2y
I think you are trying to shoehorn Trump and MAGA into the argument. Trump has nothing to do with the OP. Surprised you couldn't shoehorn Hitler or Nazis in your argument.
4 ups, 2y,
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So which folks were seceding from the USA in that pic? What did they call their new country?
6 ups, 2y,
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I don’t support FBI led and Capital police sanctioned activity like that and neither did Trump
5 ups, 2y
Why are you so extreme?

Where do you get your news?
0 ups, 2y
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