At last , Sanity

1,662 views • 81 upvotes • Made by Giantsquonk 2 years ago in politics
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JakkFrost
14 ups, 2y
The fact that this even has to be done is literally as bad as the fact that bleach bottles say "do not drink", or that Tide had to put "do not eat" warnings on Tide Pods.
Graeystone
9 ups, 2y, 1 reply
But. . .don't we already have laws that says it's a no-no for men to enter a woman's public restroom unless he's a janitor or there's an emergency.
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darko_yolo
3 ups, 2y, 1 reply
JakkFrost
5 ups, 2y, 1 reply
It's more so that perverts can't *pretend* to be transgender in order to sexually harass or assault biological women and girls.



Get your dick chopped off and I'm sure nobody would have a problem with you using the ladies room.  But a lot of self-identified trans people barely even make an effort to pass, like the Gamestop dude.
darko_yolo
3 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Next stop: women's bathroom gender police.
JakkFrost
4 ups, 2y, 1 reply
As with any rules, their intention is to not make things easy for the criminals. Allowing non trans men to pretend they're trans just by saying so, with no other effort, is blatant misogyny, since you clearly don't care about the safety of real women.



But that's no surprise, the whole trans movement has become misogynistic the last couple of years, trying to uncreate women.
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darko_yolo
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
JakkFrost
4 ups, 2y, 1 reply
"Nothing about this will make it any more difficult for anyone born male to put a wig on, go inside, and do whatever."



Except for real women's ability to scream and call for help without having to fear being labeled transphobic and getting doxxed and canceled, maybe even charged with a hate crime.
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darko_yolo
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
JakkFrost
3 ups, 2y, 1 reply
In terms of actual assault or rape, it just might.  The potential confusion as he approaches can lead to a costly moment of indecision in which he'd have time to silence her.



But rape isn't the only problem, there are other crimes that can be committed, such as sexual harassment and indecent exposure.  Sexual assault can even occur and the woman might be afraid to say something because it's her word against his, remembering that sexual assault can be something as brief and unprovable as groping a butt or breast.



If she complains about something like that to management or the cops, he can just say she's a transphobe making up stories to get him in trouble. 



And with biological women being dehumanized by the trans movement these days, it's not out of the question that the woman could be arrested and charged, especially here in Canada.
darko_yolo
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
You think fear of being labeled transphobic might be greater than fear of actual rape??? It's not out of the question that SHE could be arrested and charged? Wow Canada must be far crazier than I thought. I don't think that's true here. 



"If she complains about something like that to management or the cops, he can just say she's a transphobe making up stories to get him in trouble."



If it hinges on word against word, there still isn't really anything preventing the other person from saying that.. They could say oh the woman was actually the one who drug THEM into the bathroom and assaulted them they just tried to defend themself, or she's a transphobe and they were never even in that bathroom to begin with, and so on.
JakkFrost
0 ups, 2y
Yes, I already answered that. 



There's a *possibility*. Not for every woman, since they're not a monolith, not all the same, but there is every chance that for some women, the fear of being canceled can outweigh the fear of being raped, even if only for a few seconds, long enough for the indecision to have disastrous consequences.
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8 ups, 2y
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BufordUlyssesMuckenstern
6 ups, 2y
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6 ups, 2y
Guess Kansas kept their sanity
Abby_Normal
2 ups, 2y
Check the last line of the first paragraph.
[deleted]
6 ups, 2y, 4 replies
So a woman that turns into a man is perfectly fine in women’s washroom?  Gotcha.
Bluessol
10 ups, 2y, 1 reply
A woman can live as a man or dress as a man and vice versa but they can’t become one.
[deleted]
3 ups, 2y, 2 replies
Ok but she can look like a man and use the women’s washroom?
Bluessol
3 ups, 2y
Well she would have a legal right to do so. Or she could fake it and use the men’s. I’ve never seen men care even if a non transitioned women came in to use the men’s restroom. Can’t say the same for women.
Abby_Normal
2 ups, 2y
Giantsquonk
9 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Neat trick
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6 ups, 2y
DTuck
8 ups, 2y, 1 reply
No such thing.  Such a woman can dress like a man, and take hormones to increase facial hair growth . . . still not a man.  A mentally ill woman, to be sure, but not a man.



Why so hard to understand basic biology?
[deleted]
5 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Ok so she can look and live like a man, and is ok to use the women’s washroom?
DTuck
3 ups, 2y
She is a she . . . the women's washroom is for "shes" . . .



Do you have to have help figuring out which washroom you are supposed to use?  You seem really, really confused.
[deleted]
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
*Sigh* Why does every single person have to turn it into a "bUt If A mAn DiD iT" Like man I get there's a lot of things that women can do that men can't but people manage to make everything about it.
JakkFrost
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
A valid argument doesn't become less valid just because you're sick of hearing it.  I never understood people who say "oh jeez, come up with a new argument, why don't you?" in that situation. 



If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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0 ups, 2y
My argument wasn't that I heard it too much, it was that people manage to make everything about it, even if it has no relevance nor isn't even true.
GD7374
3 ups, 2y, 1 reply
So does that mean we're going to see a "Men's Bill of Rights" in the future, or will emotional dummies cry out, "there's already a Men's Bill of Rights!"?
[deleted]
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
*Something woman related*



BuT iS tHeRe A mEn'S vErSiOn?
GD7374
3 ups, 2y, 1 reply
think you missed the point.
[deleted]
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
What was the point?
GD7374
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
That it's all ridiculous.
[deleted]
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Good point. Every politics thing is rediculous
GD7374
1 up, 2y
It's one reason willful ignorance is so popular.
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whistlelock
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
JakkFrost
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Three excellently pedantic and specious questions.
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whistlelock
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
JakkFrost
0 ups, 2y
Indeed, why not just make it easy and say "a woman is someone born with an XX chromosome."



No ambiguity there.
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