Joe Biden's F'd Up Priorities ...

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-5000-taliban-prisoners/

stop offending Joe, i like him

of course joe

Not quite a hero:
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/paul-whelan-brittney-griner-russia/
Whelan was ultimately demoted from staff sergeant to private and given a bad conduct discharge after being convicted at a Jan. 14, 2008, special court-martial of attempted larceny, dereliction of duty, making a false official statement, wrongfully using another person’s Social Security number, and writing bad checks, according to military records.

Specifically, Whelan was found guilty of trying to steal $10,000 while deployed to Iraq in 2006, bouncing about $6,000 in checks and using the other person’s Social Security number to log into a training system to grade his own examinations, the Washington Post reported.

Washington Compost...LOL

The chosen rag of the CIA for leaking its propaganda...

chief medical examiner of the District of Columbia, provided a declaration that stated “there is hard and reliable evidence that Jeffrey Smith changed after the physical and emotional trauma he experience on January 6, 2021 as he became withdrawn and upset. These facts, together with the timing of the suicide (nine days after the trauma) strongly supports causality.”

“The acute, precipitating event that caused the death of Officer Smith was his occupational exposure to the traumatic events he suffered on January 6, 2021,”

If you think so.

I do, just as any sane person would.

and in case you missed it, that was "sarcasm"

Well...

FACT

Are you saying kneeling for the national anthem is worse than committing identity fraud and larceny?

The question is, did the marine do the time? If the answer is yes, then kneeling is worse than what he did because he already paid for his crime.

False, kneeling is not a crime.

Further, Trump never mentioned Whelan until Griner’s release.

That was uncalled for.

Well, you got your way, it was removed without a timer.

That truly is the best solution. Why take away someone's ability to comment on all streams for X days for something that crosses an imaginary line here?

Thanks to the mods for doing that. I've seen that happening more often and am begrudgingly pleased. The mods don't get enough good things said about them, so there you go.

False comparison. Kneeling isn't a crime. Whelan's crimes will be part of his criminal record for life.

So you're saying that one thing is worse than another depending on if the person was already punished for it?

So by that logic, if somebody steals a candy bar but never faces punishment for it, that's worse than somebody who commits murder but serves their time and gets released

Yes. Once time is served they no longer have culpability.

Yes, they do.

What do you think the law is, the Confession Booth, 10 Hail Maries and the slate is clean?
Gosh, you would have loved it here in this Mafia neighborhood, Easter Sunday Mass standing room crammed, Mafiosos putting their $100 into the collection plate, their seat in Heaven all shiny and waiting...

I put "Tony spil" into the template search bar, hoping to find a picture of Tony Spilotro. This came up instead and I guess it works just as well 😂

I had to look him up.
Looks like Pesci was a good fit in Casino, looks-wise, but then I got curious about Goodfellas, having heard the real Tommy was really tall, unlike Pesci who played him. Well, I've been reading various articles now about the accuracy of the movie.Yeah, Tommy was taller - and apparently even more psychotic, but the movie (other than leaving out various bits and details and a character subsitute here n there) kept pretty close to it.

I love the temps that turn up here.

Yeah, the Tommy irl didn't look quite like Joe Pesci, but temperament-wise it was pretty accurate. Same with Tony Spilotro/Tony Santoro in Casino. Very short fuse.

Some of those mafia guys were really crazy. Look up Mad Sam DeStefano. I've heard his unhinged behavior is why they never "made" him.

Nicky Santoro*

I hadn't gotten around to Casino background stuff, as I had seen a docu in Reelz or something this year about Good Fellas and was curious about differences with Tommy, as well as other stuff about the other fellas.

R.I.P. Liotta, so unexpected and way too soon.

Once you pay your debt to society is over.

But it's still on their criminal record.

Once their sentence is over they have served their punishment, but that doesn't mean the crime they committed is less severe than another one

By that logic you can make the case that anyone is worse. All you have to do is claim they committed a worse crime and weren't caught.

Much worse to extreme Righties...🙄

Well I guess now all we have to do is wait and see if the Biden administration does end up negotiating Whelan out of the Russian prison in 2023 or 2024.

At that point it seems possible that we could end up watching Repubs do a complete 180.

Instead of trying to stick it to Biden for "not bringing home the Marine" (as they are now)....... they will ask "why the hell did Biden bring home this criminal???" and bring up everything you just mentioned.

They're ALREADY saying it.
When asked why didn't Trump negotiate his release when he was in office then, they turn around and say, "WHAT? He's no longer a Marine, dishonorable discharge..."

It's a wonderful thing when one's logic is guided solely by lying.

Hmm... When I was asking why the stable genius wasn't able to get him out 4 years ago, all I got was crickets and deflection.....

Someone here on the right did mention that if the Biden Administration does manage to secure Whelan's release that would make him happy though.

Well, looks like someone got themself a timeout in Gab! The MAGAtron dislikes departures from the script,,,

What she said about Griner.

So, you won't be happy to see an American set free? Why do you hate America?

Ok and...?

I am unclear what exactly you are trying to say here or where you're going with that but sure.... I'm happy to see an American such as Griner brought home. And when the Biden Administration brought back US Marine /Veteran Trevor Reed from a Russian prison earlier this year, that was also pretty cool.

" if the Biden Administration does manage to secure Whelan's release that would make him happy though."

Your quote - that's what I was replying to. It should go without saying. If Griner got released. Yay! When Whelan gets released - yay! Americans of all stripes when another American gets released from a shithole country.

That being said, conservatives can hold two entirely valid thoughts in their head at the same time. We can be glad that Griner got released AND at the very same time we can ask the hard questions of our elected "leaders" such as "We gave up an international arms dealer that is responsible for thousands of deaths and all we got in return is a cbd oil smuggler?"

I mentioned that just in case Whelan does end up getting released and repubs try to flip the script doing a 180° on the matter.

Basically from:
the Whelan release would be good theoretically, happy times....

to:
the Whelan release that actually happened is bad, angry times.....

We'll have to wait and see.

It would seem the more time from now until that happens, the more likely a 180° would be.... I have serious doubts that trade or negotiation will happen though considering we're basically in a proxy war with Russia, he's been found guilty of espionage, and it has been reported that he (allegedly) had a USB memory stick with "state secrets" of the names of security agents and whatever else.

But back to Griner... Griner getting released I mean... I haven't seen much yays. Idk if I have seen ANY yays tbh(?). The only thing I have seen here is: why the marine was "left behind"... and Griner "hates America"... and "black trans lesbian basketball girl brought back because 'wokeism ' ".... and archived fake news presented to me as "evidence" that Biden was given a choice of Whelan or Griner. And he chose Griner "instead" of Whelan.... Therefore Biden is a traitor.. idiot.. etc. Meanwhile the premise that he was given that choice was horse sh*t to begin with.

All of this apparently forgetting or ignoring the fact that Biden had already brought home a marine earlier this year. Was that 'wokeism'? Is he allowed to bring home anyone else or only Marines...?

Anywho... curious. Flip your hard question on its head. Let's say it was what you'd call an "even trade". Let's say our American, Griner, was also responsible for thousands of deaths............... Would you want her back in America?

If she was I'm sure the talking points here would be less focus on "even trade", more focus on "Biden brings notorious murderer back into America".... Therefore Biden is a traitor... idiot... Etc.

Biden just cannot win with the right. It's basically trump 4 years ago (with the left).

And as other people have pointed out, conservatives never even mentioned the guy until Griner was released from prison