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Madcow doesn't get it Indians dont trust government

Madcow doesn't get it Indians dont trust government | For anyone to not trust the government. I'm tellin' ya, there's absolutely no good reason, WTF is that guy smoking? | image tagged in rachel maddow communist,grand canyon | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
1,743 views 76 upvotes Made by Hardraker 2 years ago in politics
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12 ups, 2y
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7 ups, 2y
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7 ups, 2y
Never trust any government and any politician, focus on supporting what is best.
3 ups, 2y,
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Are space aliens gender confused?
2 ups, 2y,
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The rumor is that space aliens have quarantined our planet and want nothing to do with us.
1 up, 2y
😂 just like the globalists
2 ups, 2y
😂🤣😂👍🏻
1 up, 2y
Authoritarians - "Trust the government!"
Reagan - "Trust but verify!"
God - "All nations are below Me counted less than nothing but vanity!"(Book of Isiah)
2 ups, 2y,
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first, Indians is a f**king racist term.
2 ups, 2y,
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No, it’s not.

It is, however, politically incorrect to use the term in this context. But not explicitly inaccurate as Native Americans or African Americans. It is no more racist to call a person who is Black or Colored as many minorities have accepted these common terms when it is necessary to identify a person by race or skin color. (Arguably, it shouldn’t, but there are always exceptions.)

Even among many indigenous tribes in the US and the American continents a very small percentage object to the term American Indian and even Native American. A majority would prefer to be identified by their tribe rather than lumped together into a single racial identity much as Asians, Hispanics, and Latinos often prefer to go by their country of origin or heritage.

Even still, these terms are not outright objected to unless in specific context rather than purely from a bigoted standpoint.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_name_controversy#:~:text=Others%20state%20that%20the%20term,adopted%20the%20term%20in%201985.
1 up, 2y
My grandpa's family came from the Blackfoot Rez in Browning Montana. I visited it in 1972. At the time the pre-pc crowd was using the term "Amerind". My Indian relatives told me "no no, we are Indians." Some of my cousins were activists in AIM- The American Indian Movement. White Liberals come up with terminology to please themselves with no input from the people in those communities.
I lived in a Barrio full of illegals. When I mentioned the term Latinx, they never heard of it and thought it was some kind of joke.
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I have a sneaking suspician he knows more about the subject than you do, as in, personally.
1 up, 2y,
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Then he can politely correct me where and if I am wrong.

I just assumed he was a Harry Potter fan.
0 ups, 2y,
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His comment was to the OP, so how could he have?

The charge isn't anything new.
1 up, 2y,
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And my comment was to RavenclawGuy. Just as I replied to you, he can reply to me.

Presumably just as I was able to see you replied to me, and I to you, he can see I’ve replied to him.

True, he can choose not to me. But I suspect he knows there is nothing to argue. Or perhaps he does have something and will have more to contribute other than “I know more than you.”

He may be of the opinion that it is racist, even from his personal perspective as a Native American (or Harry Potter fan). My reply accounts for that as well and is arguably from a more objective standpoint.

So I’m not even generalizing here.

I can also add the term was never used as a malicious slur in the meme. Nor does it appear to be strictly malicious used toward Natives but rather Rachel Maddow.

Which, I honestly have no idea what they’re even specifically criticizing what she said, if anything.

It would be more accurate to accuse the meme of sexism as it purposely misidentifies her gender. But honestly, I’m far more interested in what they’re strawmaning. Maybe their mommy forced them to watch Maddow at dinner the evening they made this and they’re just acting out? No idea. I don’t watch her myself but I tend to tune out most opinionated pieces.

I prefer to read. I just spent 15 hours looking for written AOC quotes and had to dodge 45 videos. Each spanning maybe three of the same speeches. I was writing a comparison between AOC and Teddy Roosevelt since they’re technically both progressive conservationists. You’d thin their’d be more common quotes between them both my search has found nada.

Sorry for ranting. 15 hours is a lot to utilize for research and come up empty.
0 ups, 2y,
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"grate" [See what I did there?]

"Indian" falling out of favor since the 1970s is something you really are unaware of?

btw,

"A majority would prefer to be identified by their tribe rather than lumped together into a single racial identity much as Asians, Hispanics, and Latinos often prefer to go by their country of origin or heritage."

Asia actually covers two races (or four according to some who who add Australoids and Dravidians to India, etc, but, naah), and Hispanics & Latinos are not a race. Or would you prefer that someone else inform you of this as well?
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Well some libtard got a couple of pasty white guys to argue a non sequitur.
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Maybe you shouldn't argue like that then.
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The census should at least. Which still includes American Indian. Not a justification but certainly a point that not everyone has got the memo.

The main reason being that, again, they’d rather be identified by individual tribes. Which doesn’t bother me at all.

Any collective term anyone attempts to assign them is going to be inherently wrong.
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Who made you their spokesman?

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imgflip.com/i/6n9k3k?nerp=1658536595#com20109596

“Can you stop cramming my notifs with this nonsense?”

You first.
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I never claimed to be.

I am just saying what I’ve read.

And what was directly said from them.

I wouldn’t begin to presume no indigenous Americans have an issue or don’t have an issue with the term. But it’s still not racist nor a slur to use it.

By the way, you are speaking to a member of the Cherokee Nation. My Grandmother grew up on a reservation and was half-Cherokee while my Grandfather, who knew little of his birth parents beyond they were of Cree descent, and was adopted by an Amish family. Naturally as she was born on a reservation and he from an Amish community, left their respective homes when they were of age to fight in World War II. Not directly, of course
as women’s presence in the military was limited back then but she was a mechanic and he a navigator for the Air Force.

As I grew up with many people often claim to be 1/8th and 1/16th Cherokee… and I assumed this to be true, and probably is, but I myself am true 1/4th while those people are probably 1/8th and etc but come from a decent of several generations 1/8ths or less. So it does bother me when people claim to be of Native American descent and since I am 1/4th… pale… and ginger I am usually reluctant to admit to being such as I often mistaken for such people.

This, however, still does not make me the spokesman for the indigenous people of this land. And, as I said, I do not presume to be. I am merely stating a statistical fact that those of native descent who’ve bothered to answer whether or not it offends, have said what they’ve said.

Personally, I’m more offended when people utilize my culture for commercial gain when little or none of the proceeds actually go to any of the recognized tribes.

You’re very free to not believe me. You’re not the first to be cynical of my claims and since I respect cynicism in general, especially when proof is not provided, and I can provide none beyond my word; you’re very free to believe what you wish of me.

It does not change the fact that I have seen little evidence of a majority Native Americans in general objecting to the term Indian any less than the term Native American. Nor considering the term offensive, let alone racist.
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tl;dr

Oh gosh, I went back to quote something and I saw you pull a Warren.

In my entire life, I've not met a single person born in PA and west or south of there who didn't claim to have a Cherokee great great granny. Literally. not. a. single. person.
I did know someone once who clearly was part (physical features, and her surname being mispelled due to her grandfather being illiterate and not knowing how to spell it), but all the rest have been blonde/blue Karens and just as oblivious too!

Can you stop cramming my notifs with this nonsense?
If you're addressing him, like you keep saying, then address HIM.
0 ups, 2y
Haha, bull puckey. Indians, Indians, Indians.
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