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Dont want to offend the Muslim faith, just Christian | SO YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THEM UP IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES TOO, RIGHT? WE WILL PUT UP A PRIDE FLAG AT THE VATICAN; RIGHT? | image tagged in anakin padme 4 panel | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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8 ups, 3y,
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They'll f**king behead you for doing that!
8 ups, 3y,
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and yet the left defends the Muslim faith…
They side with Ukraine (even adding Ukraine flag colors to the pride flag) when gay marriage is banned in Ukraine. And they side with Muslims even though muslim-run countries would treat the LGBT community the same way they treat Christians. With no mercy. Heck, they support communists like Che Guevara who were savagely “homophobic” (though I would call him homo-vicious bc of how he treated them). This is a guy who’s face is on pride flags…
This kind of stuff is what makes me think that the leftist politicians and the leftist mob support different things. I don’t believe for a second that the left gives a darn about Ukraine. Heck, the green movement is being Russian-fed into the US right now, and left-wingers don’t even care about this if you mention that. And if they really weren’t on Russia’s side, then what the heck is the Russia-Iran deal about? I think siding with Ukraine is how they disavow Putin’s actions so they can call him a right-winger (because being evil automatically makes you a right winger). I’ll bet if Jinping invades Taiwan he’ll somehow be somewhat of a misunderstood conservative. (Though I doubt the left could get away with that since it’s known that China literally paid Hunter Biden $1B before the election). But then again, the left mob has the memory of Dory from Finding Nemo, so there’s no telling what these people could get away with.
6 ups, 3y
I think people should be more well educated. Unfortunately, I read a study that shows, that no matter how many facts you see on both sides of one issue, you will completely ignore the facts that contradict your beliefs, and you'll latch on to the ones that align with your beliefs, and push your beliefs even harder to support your belief.
Unfortunately, we are also spinning facts away from the truth so that it aligns with our beliefs as well, instead of the cold, hard truth (for example, Che Guevara being on a pride flag, when he in fact, was homophobic/homo-vicious). The internet is a power source for information, but is an even bigger, more powerful source, for misinformation, as we have seen the past two years!
9 ups, 3y,
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2 ups, 3y,
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Personally I don't normally ask people about their sex life on a regular basis , but they have to tell me anyway .
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Yeah, I'm sure that happens all the time
1 up, 3y
Yes , there's another parade in my area today
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6 ups, 3y,
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Why? There are no gay people in Muslim countries.
10 ups, 3y,
1 reply
No living ones anyway.
3 ups, 3y,
1 reply
and yet Christians are the hostile ones…
5 ups, 3y,
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The left defends the Muslim faith but attacks the Christian faith despite the fact that most of the left’s issues with the Christian faith are also prevalent in the Muslim faith. This makes the Bible specifically look even more true because this suggests that not just any evil spirit exists, but specifically Satan, the devil depicted in the Bible, exists, since the narrative is “anything but Christianity, even if the logic makes zero sense” (because when does evil ever make any sense?)
4 ups, 3y,
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Because The Bible is not permissive with a great deal many things. How while the Koran is similar in may ways, they are also very permissive in ways that the Bible very much is not. A big one is -
"Using lies to spread the Message of Jesus."- Bible calls that a sin.
"Using lies to spread the Message of Allah." - Koran calls that permissible.
1 up, 3y,
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That's not what is happening, so it's irrelevant. I'm not saying that's the ONLY thing that suggests that specifically the Christian devil exists, but it definitely is a major indicator. The existence of both communism and nazism can be modern examples to argue that some devil exists (though I'd say communism suggests a devil exists even more because only a select few people nowadays are Nazis [and most that are know that they're evil], whereas it is extremely common for people to think they're fighting for what's right and good while fighting for some branch of communism or some form of agenda pushed by communism; devils imitate what is good and then twist it).

No, it says "The fool says in his heart, 'there is no God.' This is because atheism is an extremely arrogant position (and I've even seen ex-Christians and ex-Muslims argue this point) because we can't definitively prove a God doesn't exist, and if one does exist, He might have demands for us to follow that have consequences not to follow. It's way easier to prove a God exists than prove our existence was all an accident. So if you don't necessarily believe in any God, it's less prideful to say you don't know if a God exists than to just say you know there is no God. Also, according to the Bible, the man who wrote that got wisdom directly from God and received instruction from God.
1 up, 2y,
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"That's not what is happening, so it's irrelevant"

It's not? I know plenty of liberals who attack both Christianity and Islam

"The existence of both communism and nazism can be modern examples to argue that some devil exists"

How is that evidence that a devil exists?

"only a select few people nowadays are Nazis [and most that are know that they're evil]"

People who are Nazis don't think they themselves are evil. They think they're making the country better.

"atheism is an extremely arrogant position...because we can't definitively prove a God doesn't exist"

Atheism doesn't say "a god doesn't exist and I can prove it". Atheism just means not believing a god exists. There's nothing arrogant about saying "I'm not convinced".

"It's way easier to prove a God exists than prove our existence was all an accident"

Atheism doesn't say our existence was an accident. And how come no one yet has proven that a god exists, if it's so easy?

"So if you don't necessarily believe in any God, it's less prideful to say you don't know if a God exists than to just say you know there is no God"

I don't say I know there is no god, I say I don't believe any gods exist. But I could be wrong.

"Also, according to the Bible, the man who wrote that got wisdom directly from God and received instruction from God"

I don't believe that a god gave anyone anything, though
1 up, 2y,
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Hard core atheists will. Richard Dawkins, who hates all religion, has attacked both many times. However, he’s faced political backlash before when going after Islam. Also the word “Islamophobia” is a thing (and only left-wingers throw “phobia” in front of everything they possibly can [like fatphobia]), yet Christphobia is not a thing. However, I don’t believe the main left-wing politicians give a rip about Islam. They just want to tear down America’s foundation really badly so they can “build back better” (since that’s what communism is all about, tearing down the natural system and replacing it with their own, and if you don’t believe me, read anything by Marx or Engels), that they’re willing to side with anything that isn’t Christianity, since the nation was founded on Christianity. This is why literally almost everything besides the traditional straight Christian couple is “new and improved” while all of the traditional stuff is old-fashioned. Now don’t get me wrong. I don’t hate innovation and I’m not one to want to stick to traditions. But when there’s a push to destroy all traditions, it’s pretty obvious what is coming next.

It’s a massive indicator because these are both started by people who wanted to tear others down for their own personal gain, yet people were too stupid to see it. Only it’s worse with communism, because no matter how many neo-nazis are around today (and that also suggests that an evil being is out there), history has learned its lesson with nazis. We teach about how evil they were (and rightfully so). However, communism is not looked at with the same eye even though it’s taken 10x more lives than nazism. Just like people brush off the possibility that Satan exists (which by the way is the perfect opportunity for him to jack people over), people brush off the potential harm communism can do. It’s a legit model of Satan’s character and plans. (and i’ll get to that later.)
0 ups, 2y
"only left-wingers throw “phobia” in front of everything they possibly can [like fatphobia]), yet Christphobia is not a thing"

I've heard Christians use the word Christophobia

"They just want to tear down America’s foundation really badly so they can “build back better” (since that’s what communism is all about, tearing down the natural system and replacing it with their own"

That doesn't mean anyone who wants to change society is a communist. I could argue that Jesus wanted to tear down the current system and build his own.

"the nation was founded on Christianity"

No it wasn't. Neither the Declaration of Independence nor the Constitution says that.

"But when there’s a push to destroy all traditions, it’s pretty obvious what is coming next."

I don't see a push to destroy all traditions. And what do you think comes next?

"no matter how many neo-nazis are around today (and that also suggests that an evil being is out there)"

No it doesn't

"However, it’s hard to even think of how so many people could think oppression, racism, and all that stuff will make the country better"

I agree

"Wouldn’t it really make you mad if Hitler not only approved of the education system America was learning from, but he endorsed it so much that he went out of his way to make sure everyone in his country had the same education?"

I would need more information, like why he approved of it. Just because Hitler liked something doesn't automatically make it bad. He liked pets, he liked non-smoking, etc.

"the word “communism” had a bad taste to Americans, so the ones plotting to take America decided to disguise it as “liberal progressivism” "

That doesn't mean that people who use that term today are talking about the same thing.

"Pretty much everyone starts out with good desires from infancy (whether or not they will be good people). Something corrupts some of us along the way"

It's called human nature

"Heck, we mess ourselves up when we know it’s not even smart to. Why would we do that? Why would we essentially shoot ourselves in the foot, unless something wanted us to?"

Because humans are complex creatures who often do things that aren't in our best interest. That's not evidence that a devil exists.
1 up, 2y,
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Actually, so about proving a God exists, even scientists that are hostile to creationism admit we are obviously created. Richard Dawkins says design in animal and human biology is obvious, yet he thinks we were designed by aliens and not a God. Essentially that’s saying “A Creator exists, but He isn’t God.” Which makes no sense. And yet he’s a renowned atheist scientist.

I never said “proving a God exists is easy.” Nothing in science is easy. However, there’s far more suggesting we were created than we showed up. And yes, atheism suggests we came by accident. Unknown happy accidents. There are many theories as to how we came, such as 1) a lightning bolt struck somewhere billions of years ago, and the reaction created the first life form [a belief with major problems, but that’s too complicated to get into, however i did debunk all these arguments in a think_tank post two years ago], 2) The Big Bang [the biggest accident of all time], 3) abiogenesis [which basically is the same thing as the other two, only difference is that it’s clueless as to how we came about, but the idea is that some unknown chemical reacted with some unknown chemical in an unknown area in unknown condition, creating an unknown prokaryotic life form which evolved into several different unknown prokaryotic life forms until the first unknown eukaryotic life form came about, which then evolved into several different unknown eukaryotic life forms in unknown conditions until the earth’s conditions stabilized into slow motion, slowing down evolution just in time for human history to gain no proof this ever happened {talk about some blind faith}] and 4) the mutation theory [which is 100% based on a billion unknown happy accidents under unknown specific conditions {matter of fact, this one ain’t even possible bc if evolution really worked like this, then evolution would be inconsistent and wouldn’t be moving forward in any direction}.

What I’m saying is that acting like a God doesn’t exist is extremely prideful. Yes, saying you don’t know is far less prideful than acting like you could possibly know one doesn’t exist, but that doesn’t mean that acting off of the idea isn’t prideful either. For example, if a God exists and demands to be obeyed and we’ve been saying He doesn’t exist, we’re far worse off than if we assume He exists and then He turns out to be a figment of human imagination. And since so much evidence points to us being designed, it’s really cutting it close to ignore God.
0 ups, 2y,
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"Richard Dawkins says design in animal and human biology is obvious"

He said the *appearance* of design is evident, not actual design

"yet he thinks we were designed by aliens and not a God"

He said that was a possibility, not that he believes it

"And yes, atheism suggests we came by accident"

No it doesn't. Atheism is about whether a god exists, not where humans came from. And science also doesn't say we came about by accident, it says we got here through natural processes.

"a lightning bolt struck somewhere billions of years ago, and the reaction created the first life form"

That's not what the idea says. You're skipping over a lot of steps in between.

"The Big Bang [the biggest accident of all time]"

The Big Bang isn't an accident, and it's not about how life arose

"abiogenesis [which basically is the same thing as the other two"

Abiogenesis is how life arose from non-life. It's not remotely the same as the Big Bang theory. And your list of "unknown reactions" is also very inaccurate. It's also very dishonest of you to list a bunch of things scientists are still studying and trying to figure out, and calling it "blind faith". And keep in mind that your solution to all these problems is appealing to literal magic.

"the mutation theory"

What "mutation theory"?

"this one ain’t even possible bc if evolution really worked like this, then evolution would be inconsistent and wouldn’t be moving forward in any direction"

There's a thing called natural selection. Organisms with traits that help it survive are more likely to pass on their genes to future generations. That's not at all "inconsistent". Mutations may be random, but the selection process isn't.

"acting like a God doesn’t exist is extremely prideful"

I don't believe any gods exist. Im not convinced. How is not being convinced of something being prideful?

"if a God exists and demands to be obeyed"

So if something demands to be obeyed, we should just obey it, no questions asked? You don't see any problem with that?

"we’re far worse off than if we assume He exists and then He turns out to be a figment of human imagination"

If god doesn't exist and people try to control their lives, and the lives of other people, because they think he does, that's a huge problem.

"And since so much evidence points to us being designed, it’s really cutting it close to ignore God"

I don't ignore something I don't think is real to begin with. Do you ignore magic pixies and unicorns? How rude of you.
0 ups, 2y
So let me get this straight: we're simulated to "look" designed but we aren't designed?

Natural processes? So did life always exist? Because somewhere something supernatural had to happen to create beings that could think for themselves. Life couldn't have spawned from "natural processes", there's not really any scientific explanation for how that would happen that wouldn't be in the sci-fi genre

What steps did I skip? And does it really change much in terms of how likely it is to happen? The more I skipped over, the less likely it would be that we exist.

The Big Bang is an explosion. Many accidents end in explosions. My point is that fire doesn't create life, it literally destroys it.

If scientists are really still studying these things, why do they treat them as if they're scientific law? Because if ppl treat an unproven idea as a law, I'm going to dismantle it like you would dismantle something that you think is a law, like how Darwin dismantled the immutability of species, and Vesalius dismantled many of Galen's ideas.

The mutation theory is one of those neo-darwinist ideas (I forget what it's called bc there's too many darwinist variants and each of them try to explain one scientific hole in darwinism but then create a whole new hole). But basically it's a theory that all evolution happens through sudden mutations in periodic conditions that happen maybe once every few tens of millions of years (explaining why our history hasn't seen evolution). There are a lot of problems with this idea, though. The entire earth would have to have the same exact conditions everywhere for this to work. Plus if an animal offspring mutated into a more advanced creature, who's to say it'll ever find another creature that it could have offspring with? Mutations are completely random and happen in various ways, but we have to completely ignore that for this theory. So basically, this "mutation theory" isn't really mutation.
0 ups, 2y
Yes, that can happen, but only to a certain extent. If the sun got bigger, humans wouldn't evolve into dragons or anything. There's very poor examples of documentation of intermediate species in the fossil record (and there's another darwinism variant to explain this away, which has its own hole as well). So there's no reason to suspect macroevolution is even possible. It hasn't been seen in history and there's zero proof of it. Even Darwin knew that. He was extrapolating, and bc the world had extremely godless political forces exploding at the time, his idea was accepted as scientific law with little to no examination. And science has changed and several of his ideas were disproven by findings of Gregor Mendel's studies, but unfortunately for us, he didn't publish his findings, so we never will know what Darwin would've come up with if he had that information. And the selection process would have to be nearly identical for every evolving animal for them to be able to have offspring. That's a problem for macroevolution and a HUGE problem for the mutation theory.

I said acting like one doesn't exist when one totally could exist and might be in ultimate control of everything is prideful. And also it's prideful to think us humans who have only lived decades know so much.

No, but God isn't a tyrant. If a communist was in charge, that calls for rebellion, bc ppl with different opinions are gonna die anyway. But if God were anything like that, we'd all be dead. Since God in the Bible actually tries to help us evade punishment, (and many other religions have other stories), it's arrogant to act like all of them are bogus because you'll end up in hell if you're wrong. (And one difference between Christianity and other religions is that God purses you in the Bible and you're pursuing God in other religions).

Really? Because if God really doesn't exist, then everything is meaningless and pointless. Whatever you and I believe doesn't matter. Whether or not I go and become the next school shooter doesn't matter (I have much to say on why that's happening now but I won't go there). I mean, you just live for your years, maybe decades, and then drift off and nothing really happens unless we're just teleported to some other world like this one. There'd be no accountability if there's no God.

No one tries to argue the existence of magic pixies and unicorns except kids that see them in movies made to spark their imagination, so that's completely irrelevant.
1 up, 2y
Some do, and some don’t. That’s also the case with Marxism. However, it’s hard to even think of how so many people could think oppression, racism, and all that stuff will make the country better. It’s easy to understand why Hitler thought so; he didn’t care about the well being of others as long as he had what he wanted (no matter how much he claimed to care for Germany, because if he wanted to help Germany, he’d help all Germans, not “help” some by killing off the others). But dupes are harder to explain.

But back to communism, which has not received the same critical eye as nazism. The reason for this is people like John Dewey, who was essentially the founding father of modern American education, whose works were so filled with marxist propaganda that Stalin went out of his way to have Dewey’s works printed for every school in the USSR (despite the fact that they couldn’t really afford the effort). That should be alarming. Wouldn’t it really make you mad if Hitler not only approved of the education system America was learning from, but he endorsed it so much that he went out of his way to make sure everyone in his country had the same education? Of course the education wouldn’t look at Nazis with a critical eye. And that’s why so many young Americans are communists right now. The only reason this didn’t happen sooner is that the word “communism” had a bad taste to Americans, so the ones plotting to take America decided to disguise it as “liberal progressivism” (you can see this in a testimony Bella Dodd [an ex-communist] gave in 1950, when she was describing what another communist confided in her back in 1944). This is how communists think they’re making the country better. The whole idea of what communism is has been rewritten to appeal to people so they’ll think it’s good. This hasn’t been done with nazism. If you’re a nazi, something’s messed up. (which isn’t to say you can’t change a nazi’s mind, I have seen that happen before. I’m just saying your idea of right and wrong has been screwed up.)

But another indication that the devil exists is our desire to do good. Pretty much everyone starts out with good desires from infancy (whether or not they will be good people). Something corrupts some of us along the way. Heck, we mess ourselves up when we know it’s not even smart to. Why would we do that? Why would we essentially shoot ourselves in the foot, unless something wanted us to?
1 up, 2y,
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It also says:

"Matthew KJ21
But I say unto you, that whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment; and whosoever shall say to his brother, ‘Raca,’ shall be in danger of the council; but whosoever shall say, ‘Thou fool,’ shall be in danger of hell fire."

Matthew 7:1-3 KJV
Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you.

The Christian Devil isn't, btw. It's Zoroastrian one borrowed by the Romans.
1 up, 2y,
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what the heck does this have to do with anything?
1 up, 2y
When you read comments from certain users, you won't get an explanation because if you don't understand it the way that it was written then you are obviously the idjit.
3 ups, 3y
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SO YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THEM UP IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES TOO, RIGHT? WE WILL PUT UP A PRIDE FLAG AT THE VATICAN; RIGHT?