Laughing Leo

Gosh, there wasn't even enough Bernie Sanders voters to beat Kamala in the primaries. Maybe if they could throw in all the votes that Elizabeth 'Gray Beaver' Warren got too?

Well if Disney would have stayed in their lane. They still would be getting away with not paying their fair share, but they had to insist on grooming lil children. Besides, you should be happy that a trillion dollar corp is going to be paying their fair share, but as usual, you libs are never late for the hypocrisy train.

And how is it Right Wing Nut Job social agenda, to be against grooming little children? You people are totally out of touch with reality.

You know how I know the “grooming kids” thing is bullshit? You don’t respond to that by taking away special self-governing privileges. You respond to that by calling in the attorney general and conducting a sweeping criminal and business practices investigation.

If Ron DeSantis really believed in this “groomer” crap and wanted to protect kids, that’s what he’d do. Instead he’s settling for some financial retaliation commensurate with Disney’s decision to publicly condemn the “Don’t Say Gay” bill and divorce itself from filling the Florida GOP’s coffers with campaign contributions.

And I know that DeSantis and the GOP don’t really care about taxing corporations generally, or they’d be doing this for all big corporations. If it’s a step toward the GOP finally getting a grip on how trickle-down theory and Reaganomics don’t work for average folks in this economy, I welcome it, but I’m not holding my breath.

Regardless of the reason, the church should most definitely not have tax exempt status. I don’t think you’ll get much of an argument from conservatives about that.

Sidenote: those gay church pedophiles you describe are almost always liberals.

............we absolutely do get a LOT of arguments from conservatives over that. It's kind of a major cornerstone of Republican policy, actually.

Take the Vatican down any time you want, us Protestants don't give a rat's hynie.

Ok. So why do Protestant churches always lobby to defeat legislation that would tax them?

Founding Fathers

What about them? I thought this was about holding child groomers accountable by revoking tax privileges. Doesn't get much more grievous than church abuses 🤷🏻‍♀️

Reread the statement I replied to

The one where you just said Founding Fathers like it's some magic phrase that gets you out of mistakes you've made?

It's the crux of the discussion, not the red herring you're offering

OK, but if you catch the church in some child grooming and make them lose their tax exemptions over that, you'll really own the libs.

Everyone should lobby to defeat legislation that would tax them. I for one, want to keep more of my hard earned money!

.... So you're in favour of child groomers lobbying to pay lower taxes?

Oh my, your friends are going to kick you out of their group now.

Disney is and so are you

Great. Now tackle the child groomers in the church by suspending their tax privileges.

Is taxes what stops pedos?

That's an excellent question. Why don't you ask your friends.

Oh, so witty today
Lines should be short at Disneyland; take the whole family

It has to do with separation of church and state and entanglements interfering one with the other. Religion haters would love to tax them, but the Supreme Court has upheld state statutes exempting them from taxes repeatedly. It has also struck down cases that went to far and promoted religion by the state. It’s a fair system and just because you hate religion doesn’t seem to be a good enough reason to change it.

(shhhh, you're giving it away)

That wall is already in place. Benevolent neutrality towards religion has been in place forever. Your atheistic militant hatred isn’t a good enough reason to change it.

The separation only means the church should not direct government nor the government direct secular matters. Benevolence to religion and it’s stabilizing effect to society does not violate church and state separation as long as it recognizes all religious beliefs.

Exactly how does the phrase quoted infer interfering with religious beliefs? It doesn’t, your hatred of religion is what needs to change. Let people enjoy their faith, no one’s forcing you to be part of it.

So where did Jesus say the church must be taxed by the Romans?

Lol Matthew was a tax collector before his “conversion” and he was hated.

America was founded by people fleeing religious wars and persecution by the governments they controlled. They didn’t want to eradicate god, they wanted that left for each man to decide without government interference. Not taxing religion is neither a positive or a negative. It is a neutral.

The desert wandering thing happened before Jesus.

The point Red Herring is Jesus didn’t say the church must pay taxes. He said individuals should surrender unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s. Individual church members do pay taxes so what’s your point.

Churches don’t pay taxes because they are non profits. What tax are you going to require from the local street Corner church? WhT if they have no profit? Will they get Welfare if they don’t? So your for subsidizing them if they don’t make money?

I asked a hypothetical question trigger. If you tax churches but they have no profit what tax is collected? Do they qualify for rental assistance? Welfare? Food stamps?

So you’re problem is with all non profit organizations, not just churches? The government should tax them because it has debt? How about not giving up billions for student loan forgiveness.

You're focused on televangelists and I’m talking about the local Church. I don’t know where you experience extravagant
Lifestyles of the meme era of the street corner church. I don’t see it. Don’t act as if all churches are corrupt.