Biden's willing to pay you for it

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soon we'll be negotiating prices to be payed for getting the vaccine.

My rate for even discussing the vaccine in person with a government rep is $5000 for the first ten minutes, and $3000 for each additional minute. And I will have to have a signed and witnessed contract in advance :)

In case anyone has forgotten. . .here's my compromise. 550b4k.jpg (click to show)

We get we really do. For your own personal reasons you don't want to get the shot/shots. That is your choice.

And until we see factual evidence otherwise no one from the Government is going to force it on you.,

But Riddle us this.

1. Do private businesses have a "legal" right to reject your business for refusing to wear a mask.

2. Do Private Companies have a "legal" right to require present and new hire employess be vaxxed?

Btw we tend not to ask questions unless we already know the "legal" answer.

You are entitled to your opinions. but facts will always crush "feelings" and "opinions"

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It depends on the framing of the argument. No business has the right to discriminate based on race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, disability... (etc). Indeed, many landmark civil rights cases are on the books and OSHA was created to ensure standards those non-bias standards are being upheld.

So then it becomes an issue of WHY a mask isn't being worn or a vaccine wasn't received. A few arguments come to mind -- which have proven successful in the past and were made in good faith or otherwise -- about health issues and/or religious preference that would preclude both.

Thus "legally", the answer is more nuanced than a binary "yes" or "no".

And just like that the same people who are always about "freedom" and said a baker can refsue cakes to gay people can subjectively "rationalize" what companies can or can not do.

Remember this ok?

Things such as OSHA, and employee "rights" and "unions" that help impose them onto companies only took place because people "GOT WOKE"

Do you enjoy your 40 hour work week? Woke people made that happen

Hahaha. Clever little trap. Here's how it is.

As I recall, the bakery was sued, was it not? The Colorado Civil Rights Commission even found them to be discriminatory towards the gay couple wanting their product. The bakery then appealed all the way up to SCOTUS where the Commission's decision was reversed based on the bakery owner's freedom of religious expression (its a bit more complicated but I'm speaking in general terms).

So what we have here is a Type 1/Type 2 error. Who was discriminated against? Obviously the gay people who were refused a cake! Obviously the business owner because of religion expression! If you want to talk about "woke people"... let's talk about how defining everything as discriminatory, ironically, makes nothing discriminatory by definition. Unless, of course, we're going with the "Progressive Stack" unofficial model... which is a conversation for another post.

On the subject of unions -- I'm not sure how we got here but... here we are -- unions are not a product of "woke people" (as a tangent: that is such a stupid term... like when people call me a "Person of Color" mindlessly not realizing it's just another way of calling me a "Colored Person". So stupid!). Collective bargaining is a product of capitalism. When you can corner a market you have greater influence over that market. So if you can control all of the labor, you can argue for a better deal for the laborers. This wouldn't work in most other economic systems, certainly not under Socialism or Communism, and has nothing to do with how "woke" they are... and to imply such is silly.

Yes he was. But that never stopped right wing flip floppers.

Face it. Both sides are full of shit. You only make it worse when you try to defend "your" BS

Was this comment meant for me? I ask because I don't know what you're talking about when you say... well any of it.

At least I agree with you that both sides are full of shit... though you lost me again with "...when you try to defend 'your' BS". Everything I said was accurate... and unbiased, I might add.

If you took offense to any of it, that wasn't my intention... but it's also not my problem.

Yes your own BS such like that meme you have with Cuba, Japan, And America.

It's BS because you either purposely ignore WHY Americans are protesting OR you choose to be ingorant about it.

People don't just wake up and decide to "disrespect" the "flag" On second thought yes they do.

Just like the Jan 6th riot it is a "riot" how you people subjectively rationalize your own BS

On Jan 6th all those "BACK THE BLUE" fakes suddenly hated cops as much as BLM or Antifa

And now they still are attacking cops in DC.

Not Japan... Hong Kong. Cuba and Hong Kong are both under Communist authoritarianism and wish not to be. America has long been a symbol for freedom and so for them to honor our flag while our own people mock and dishonor it is an interesting contrast. It's interesting that you call that BS... seems to be in line with my meme, however.

It's not that I don't understand why people are protesting/rioting... I simply disagree. We are a nation of laws and if people break those laws they are investigated, tried and punished for it. What I refuse to support -- on either side of the isle -- are people who refuse to allow investigations or don't care about their outcomes and wish to subvert trials or simply work to forego them altogether... all so they can continuously complain that they are oppressed. It's not helpful or healthy and is an excellent example of what I'm talking about when I say our society's values are circling the drain.

But I am confused how we got here... or why on earth you would even bring up my meme in the first place. We were originally talking about the legality of wearing/not wearing a mask and getting vaccinated... remember? What does my meme have to do with that? Why did you move the goal post to this nonsensical position and what did you hope to accomplish by pointing out that, yes, I seem to like America and cannot stomach the people who take it for granted? We were having a discussion about civil rights law. Shall we get back to that now?

Oh, hi there multiple personality person! It has been an enjoyable adventure trying to decipher the punctuation you and yours have used in reply. Have a good night with each other and sweet dreams.

3ce1kk.gif (click to show) Your meme makes me smile

melania trump and stormy daniels got paid a lot more than that.

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deflect - something kellyanne conway spent 4 years doing.

Not to defend Hunter in anyway shape or form but if you have seen the video's of him banging Obummer's daughter or other underage teens it isn't a little prick

Oh, no thank-you, I have no interest in seeing that.

Pixelized/censored portions of everything on his laptop are available online. GTV.COM

That’s gross