It's (D)ifferent when he does it.

Typical, making excuses for the Bidens. I wonder what you'd say if he were Trump's son.

well it seems that it was just as bad that Trump said he likes to grab women by their pussy in an interview he thought was confidential as Biden's Kid saying Ni++er over and over.. I don't see it though.

What Trump said in a private conversation is something most men in private conversations say. I'd dare say 99% of men don't actually force ourselves on women and even less of us actually r@pe them. Hunter Biden said it over and over, which most of us never do, even in a private conversation. Saying it with your "homies" of a darker color, if they're perfectly fine with it, I suppose is fine, but he wasn't doing that.

And then let's not forget how the media is trying to bury this, something they would NEVER have done if it were Trump's son.

Most of the way that the media shows their bias is in what they choose to cover. The media is a business. They report what they think people will read.

There are interesting charts showing the stories that different media outlets cover or not. Its a right and left issue because people are biased and people work in the media. Forbes covered it on the left. I might have expected more coverage, but even looking at right leaning outlets (OAN, Newsmax), they didn't cover it either. I suspect its because they know Hunter isn't much of a story post election.

More coverage has come up over Don Jr. claiming the media is burying it.

And Hunters conversation was private. As far as whether both parties in the conversation were cool with it...IDK.

I can only pretend to know how I would react. I think most people don't really know how they would react until confronted.

Like I said though, I didn't really have feelings one way or the other on Wallen. I've ignored most of the other stuff with Trumps kids, and I will grant you other than nepotism and echoing their fathers lies, they've been remarkably scandal free. There are the charity embezzling allegations and an affair or two, but again, pretty clean for a billionaires kids. I dare say they are less of an embarrassment to Trump than Hunter is to his father.

I'm not making an excuse, because I don't have a dog in the fight. I'm being honest and verbose about my feelings and reaction.

He doesn't matter. And though it is still an issue to use a racial slur casually, using it ironically to talk to someone who isn't that race isn't racism. I suppose you could argue that it is casual racism and its definitely poor form and not a good precedent. I find it disappointing, but not surprising. For those offended by it, they have every right to be. I just find it to be a stretch even if he did matter, and he doesn't.

Yeah, these "texts" were recovered from that laptop that a blind repair guy in Maryland says he thinks belongs to Hunter.

When Hunter was living in California, so of course it makes sense that Hunter would drop his laptop off at a shop in Maryland.

And that shop owner never positivily ID'd Hunter as the man who dropped it off, because he is legally blind. And the camera footage for that day was conveniently lost.

And the shop owner is a huge Trump supporter.

It's suspicious for sure, but even if everything is real, it wouldn't have changed my vote.

lmfao are you trying to equate "grab them by the pussy" to the "N" word? First of all white people are bad according to the left, 2nd, white racists are worse , 3rdly , white people that say the N word even in jest are worse than Hitler. Every guy on earth, well every straight guy, has had locker room talk about bitches. F**king pussy, eating ass, sucking tits, its every day conversation, and even worse among women about men - so don't even try to tell me there is any comparison between the two things .

So Trump actually said "They let you... grab them by the..." as in he was getting permission. Which the N word is a thousand times worse than that.

Not according to sleeping _dragon, in fact Sleeping said that people were traumatized 10x worse by the comment made by Trump than the N word.. so.. orange man bad!

Alright I've never f**king heard men talk like that even in private unless they were just trying to be disgusting on purpose. But maybe I'm just not straight enough I don't know

White people are the worst - No
People get judged as individuals. A lot of people on the right seem think the left is accusing all white people of being bad because those same people have a tendency to think about people as a group instead of as an individual. It isn't a reporter who is biased its the whole media. Most BLM protests were peaceful, but all are judged by the violent ones. 1/4 of the people on Earth are Muslim, but they are a violent religion because of terrorist groups. It took me a long time to realize that same mentality is the source of the defensiveness on accusations of racism or police violence or against Trump having done anything wrong. They think others are doing the same as them. An accusation against Trump is an accusation against Conservatives and Republicans. An accusation against a cop is an attempt to discredit all cops. Well, it isn't meant that way.

I'm not denying that groups like ACAB exist on the left, but they say what they mean. So do the rest of us for the most part. If I say a cop was bad, I'm talking about that cop.

White people who say the N-word are worse than Hitler -> nope.

There is no invisible line or ten commandments of what is and isn't racism. That kind of thought is how people work around it. "If I didn't use the word, I'm not racist". Racism is an attitude that one race is better or worse than another. People can manage it with a civil tongue in their mouth. They can come up with fake justifications. Intent matters. As a general rule, black people can use the N word because there is no expectation that they are actually intending it as a slur. While there may be exceptions, its safer for white people to not use the word because there are very few situations where we would use the N word that wouldn't be a slur.

The locker room conversation isn't the point. Its the fake outrage on the right, especially the evangelicals. I still hear people trying to get on their high horse about profanity when Trump was profane as hell and nobody said a word. Honestly, even if you accept that the "grab them" part was just locker room talk - fine. But earlier in that tape he told an actual story about trying to sleep with a married woman and her shooting him down. I'm not sure evangelicals realize just how much credibility they sacrificed on Trump's alter. Trump's tape demonstrated an actual attitude towards women - you think just talk, but he did say it. Hunter wasn't talking about calling a black person a slur.

I don't care what people care about - I just want the hypocrisy to come to an end. If you hate people saying the N word then hate it when blacks and democrats say it too.

The N word should go away. Fully agreed. Hunter sucks - that isn't news.

Why did this imbecilic crackhead get hired by a Ukrainian energy company? I have an answer. You don't.

Sure I do. It is either what you are assuming which is his fathers influence and services rendered.

I think it was more like clubs that pay celebrities to hang out, or businesses that used to hire college football players and pay them without expecting them to work. They expect to get a benefit from people knowing that he worked there. Would prosecutors act the same when looking at a company with the Biden name on it? Even if they would, can we make investors assume that they wouldn't. Can we say Hunter Biden works for us ::wink wink::. Implying something doesn't make it true.

But I can't prove a negative. If he did it and it is proven, lock him up and impeach Joe.

And if you want to complain about how hard it is to get evidence against a sitting president and his family: "you don't say?"

“What do you know, the son of a bitch got fired!”

Your willful ignorance is entertaining.

When something happened in the past and people keep telling you what happened...look into it. Look at what was being said at the time. Look up news articles being published at the time. They say Shokin was corrupt, were they saying it before Hunter Biden? Yes.

The last article on this list is a NYT article that actually discusses Hunter and is the closest you will find to a smoking gun. But it doesn't match the timeline. Burisma's investigation was ended before Shokin was fired.

Biden may have had ulterior motives for his activities in Ukraine, but he was over there pushing for these exact things before Hunter was hired. Maybe he somehow benefited from Shokin being fired, but the firing itself was on the up and up. I repeat: the firing itself is nothing.

Here's a custom search for news stories the time Shokin was fired:
https://bit.ly/3gc596x

Radio Free Europe
Scores of protesters have rallied in the Ukrainian capital, demanding the resignation of the country’s top prosecutor, who has been repeatedly criticized as an impediment to badly needed anticorruption reforms.

Kyiv Post
Deputy Prosecutor General Vitaly Kasko, who was given the job of cleaning up a corrupt, politically subservient and ineffective institution employing 15,000 prosecutors, quit on Feb. 15. In this farewell press conference, Kasko cited corruption and sabotage by General Prosecutor Viktor Shokin in combatting corruption and instituting the rule of law.

https://foreignpolicy.com/
Enough Carrots for Ukraine. Time to Break Out the Sticks.
Although Poroshenko finally sacked his widely hated prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin, this was primarily thanks to growing pressure from Western officials.

The Irish Times
EU hails sacking of Ukraine’s prosecutor Viktor Shokin

This one is probably the closest you are going to get to something that supports your beliefs:
NYTimes - Joe Biden, His Son and the Case Against a Ukrainian Oligarch
But Edward C. Chow, who follows Ukrainian policy at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said the involvement of the vice president’s son with Mr. Zlochevsky’s firm undermined the Obama administration’s anticorruption message in Ukraine.

“Now you look at the Hunter Biden situation, and on the one hand you can credit the father for sending the anticorruption message,” Mr. Chow said. “But I think unfortunately it sends the message that a lot of foreign countries want to believe about America, that we are hypocritical about these issues.”

I don't see the media , Hollywood , Facebook and twitter exploding with revulsion over Biden's scumbag kid saying NI++er over and over - there is no equal rage here . and to try to tell me there is is nothing less then disingenuous .

It is just a word. Black people use it in a way that isn't a slur. White people can and should treat it like a landmine because of the history of its use and the almost impossible uphill battle of explaining how it isn't racist.

How he used it wasn't directly racist, though you could argue it is part of a racist attitude. There is a supposed tape of Trump using the N word and the press secretary at the time for Trump said she couldn't deny that the tape existed. I'm not saying that is an admission...but its not a denial.

You don't get to tell me what to be offended by any more than I get to tell you what to be offended by.

"Black people use it in a way that isn't a slur. White people can and should treat it like a landmine because of the history of its use and the almost impossible uphill battle of explaining how it isn't racist."

F--k you. Either the word is permissible or it's not. F--k this "rules for you but not for me" bullshit.

100% ^

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reappropriation
A reclaimed or reappropriated word is a word that was at one time pejorative but has been brought back into acceptable usage, usually starting within its original target, i.e. the communities that were pejoratively described by that word, and later spreading to the general populace as well.

I would expect that the term would reenter general usage when people associate its use more with the new meaning than the old.

Two cops calling each other a pig; Two gay people calling each other a 'homo'; Two poor white people calling each other white trash; two people with a disability calling each other a gimp.

Someone using a derogatory term who is a member of the group the term is normally aimed at is different from someone outside of the group using it. This is a rule that most of us understand instinctively. I wear glasses and often call other people who wear them four eyes. < not that that's equal to a racial slur, but the rule is the same. It is natively understood that I'm not making fun of them for wearing glasses because it doesn't make sense that I would be doing so.

If you can use the word in a way that isn't derogatory, go for it. It isn't the law. You can say anything you want. In fact, even if you mean it in a derogatory way, go for it.

A word can mean different things when different people use it. I don't think me using the N word is going to convey any meaning other than a negative one, so I don't use it. If you think you can use it without intending it to be taken in a negative way then go for it. And if you mean it in a negative way, then what are you complaining about?

Fictionalized version of this argument, but you gotta love it.
https://youtu.be/pfRsKa9NfJA

I don’t give a shit. One rule for all. Either everyone can say it, or no one can say it. F—k your racial dominance display.

Everyone can say it. It isn't even hard to pronounce.

you can say whatever you want, but people can also get mad about it. Ironic that you brought up the whole "rules for thee but not for me" thing before lmao

The context of his "grab 'em by the pussy" is a lot different than repeating the N-word over and over. One is locker room banter with other men that never results in r@pe, while the other is a guy who displays overt racism, just as his racist father displays time and time again. And let's also not forget that on of them was dragged through the mud with their talk and the other is getting little-to-no backlash. It's the hypocrisy. I personally don't give a flying eff about either of them.

"Accused."

Accusations, until proven in court, don't hold a lot of merit. I have known men personally who have been accused of horrible things and it turns out the accusers were liars.

You may hold accusations in high regard, especially when it's Trump being accused, but I believe in innocent until proven guilty.

Look, I never claimed Trump is a squeaky clean human being. I have even admitted to him being a douche on occasions, but until he's proven to have r@ped someone, I am not admitting to anything. Just as I don't admit to Biden being an actual pedophile. Although, his quotes and actual on camera touching of underaged girls leaves me to lean heavily toward him being one.

notice the desperate attempt to divert the attention away from Biden's kid saying Ni++er over and over to how terrible trump is ... lmfao

Oh I notice it. It happens all the time.

its f**king pathetic, these kids are so desperate to not to have to defend Biden, they will do anything to keep talking about Trump. LoL

I've heard the details of several of those cases. They write interesting fan fiction. They should submit them to Penthouse.

Key words you lying shits left out “they let you”. You know what that means? Consent. Now, if you want to object to sexual promiscuity in general, cool, let’s go burn down Hollywood. But what he was talking about, you lying shit, was NOT assault.

Assuming he had consent is the issue. But I'll own it isn't proof that he ever did it, locker room talk. Fine. And hunter did not refer to a black person using a racial slur. He did use it, he sucks, nobody likes him. He isn't a politician or a public figure. We have no way of 'canceling' him even we wanted to. We aren't ignoring the N word, we are ignoring Hunter. We don't care. Is he on drugs again? Who cares. He isn't the president. You are trying for guilt by association, and you are free to do so. But try not to get so triggered when we don't care about him.

How about this: why isn't Hunter being prosecuted for violating gun laws? He clearly lied when he filled out a background check for his gun. Yet "ban 'em all" Biden is entirely uninterested in enforcing gun laws. It's almost as if the law applies to some people, but not others.

Joe Biden has never said to ban them all.

Do you mean the question about whether he was addicted to drugs on the Gun Transaction Record? One, I don't know for sure that he was addicted to drugs at the time and it was a lie.

"Lying on the form is a felony punishable by up to five years in prison in addition to fines, even if the transaction is denied by the NICS. Prosecutions are rare in the absence of a felony committed with the gun purchased. Of 556,496 denied transactions between FY 2008 and FY 2015, federal prosecutors prosecuted an average of under 32 cases per year, including 24 in FY 2013, 15 in FY 2014 and 20 in FY 2015."