We hear you. We hear you All The Time, 24 unrelenting hours a day. We just disagree with the lunacy.

That is exactly how I feel. I hate it when I see Liberal content in moves and TV shows when entertainment is supposed to cater to all. I hate seeing in classes as they presumed that it is high time for the majority to hear the other side. I see it on the streets, on walls, billboards, etc.

Do you think we like seeing that also? This is America. We fought a war against them. What are they doing here?

You fought a war against us and even we don´t like to see them.
Greetings from Germany

I think the majority of Germans during the Nazi occupation didn't like them either.

You still have them, though. So do we, unfortunately. <sigh>

The left thinks we're Nazis because the media tells them we're Nazis. They don't think for themselves so they regurgitate the same dookie over and over.

Newsflash: You have white supremacists in your party.

And you have Marxists and racists in yours. BLM, ANTIFA, Black Panthers, NBA, NFL, big corporations, social networks, "mainstream" media... What's your point?

You said the left thinks you're nazis because the media tells us so. No you have actual nazis in your party. That's a fact that you all keep trying to deny and ignore. THAT was my point.

I'm not denying anything of the sort. And most of the KKK are right wing extremists, but that doesn't negate the fact the left wing has evil people as well. And you all keep denying it. You keep saying BLM is a group who fight for justice when that isn't true. Go to their website and see what they really want. They're Marxists who want to overthrow the very fabric of this country.

News flash: you have black supremists in your party. The difference: Republicans disavow the racists while you encourage & embrace them.

GTFOH with that bullshit! XD

when did we ever defend them dumb f*ggot

Many have been doing it here for years.

First off I am member of the Constitution Party. I am not a Republican. Second, So does the Democrats. White supremacy is not a political ideology. They are in every party. And there are more of them who are Democrats than in any other party.

Stop being brainwashed to believe they are only in one party. Instead of attacking someone else's house clean up your own house first.

Seriously, you guys need to stop with the denials already...

I am not denying that there are white supremacists in the Republican party. I am not denying there are white supremacist in the Democrat party. I am not denying there are white supremacists in every party.

What I am denying is just because they exist that means I am one. Or just because there are some of the Republican party that the entire party is all white supremacists.

They exist in the Democrat party and Democrats are more racist than any Republican but you won't recognize that. You think you are superior (liberal supremacists) and pure. Think again.

The Democrat party is completely obsessed with race. So much so that they have become their worst enemy. They stand in direct opposition to MLK's dream. They are forced critical race theory into our schools and that is nothing buy hatred against whites. You just cannot say you are opposed to racial hatred and then hate white people.

Your cancel culture has gotten so bad that what was considered anti-racist 10 years ago is not considered racist. I really do not understand how you guys could even get more self-destructive but every day you surprise me even more.

You keep trying to say they're Democrats. Just stop. The KKK and the Neo-Nazis, collectively, are Republican. They're MAGA hat wearing Trumpers. And honestly, no one cancels like Republicans do. You started with Kaepernick and it's just been one after another since.

They look like frat boys carrying Tiki torches singing some song in front of some college building that is NOT the Capitol building. I don't see a MAGA hat in the crowd.

Why did you pick this photo to make your point? Is it because there are only white people in the picture and you wanted to make some racist point?

and how many of these guy in the country are there?

Yeah, then you think were marxists because your news that you watch. I don’t think normal people on the right are Nazis, only well the people on the far right, and well would you look at that, I’m a left centrist.

BLM are Marxists. Go to their web page and they'll tell you themselves. I don't get my info from others when it's right on their page.

Where is this exactly? Send a link because I couldn’t exactly find this information.

It's right on their page: gonna call you on that. The founders are socialists, I think, but so what?
Henry Ford was an anti-Semite. Just because they believe one thing doesn't invalidate something else they believe.

Except they don't believe their so-called message. That isn't their goal. Marxism is their goal, not protecting black lives.

How do you figure that?

Good point

You would need to ask Republicans that.

Yeah, I’m surprised there isn’t a video around somewhere of Americans proudly waving old Glory coming to beat the shit outta the Nazi f**kers and ripped up the Nazi’s flag while they were at it.

I don't see that every day.

Same thing with designated survivor, Netflix ruined it with their agenda.

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lunacy? You still think this is just bipartisan politics? So did the Jews when Hitler took over. You really don't see it, do you? The systematic takeover of your nation? And you're all just sitting there playing victimhood and allowing it.

Upvote.
I want to watch movies and TV shows to relax, not to be spoonfed.

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Man this is funny. You people blame everything on liberals

What's his fault, is his fault. Despite his insistence that he doesn't take responsibility for anything...

Trumps big mistake was not bringing a lot of pink slips with him and handing them out like candy to the DOJ, FBI, CIA, and whatever Department that needed a much deserved firing spree.

His big mistake was lying about the election and inspiring an insurrection in the process.

and letting half a million people die

And as of tomorrow there will be 100,000 people that Biden let die. You going to hold him to the same standard?

well of course not, Zach. i'm no idiot. Biden had no role in risking their lives. he's been trying to limit the damage from before day one. honestly, this idea that someone can take over and suddenly by magic, everything will be fine, I just don't see how it makes sense to you.

It doesn't. Want to know what else doesn't make sense? Blaming Trump for all the Americans who specifically chose to not take precautions and thus died. The same way every hurricane there's always stubborn people who refuse to leave and die, there's still people today who are so stupid as to even deny covid exists at all. Those people get sick and many die. How does blaming the guy in charge make sense or accomplish anything?

If you were consistent in your criticism you would be just as angry at Andrew Cuomo, or at Biden too. After all, there's about to be 100K new deaths under his watch and one could argue he didn't do enough because he didn't issue a national mask mandate.

And even Fauci himself can't explain how it is that Texas removed the mask mandate and since then there has been a drop in the number of cases and deaths. Hm, could it be this has everything to do with people's personal choices not the mandates?

Trump is blamed because he shut down the task force that was supposed to prepare the US for a pandemic. He also sent mixed messages about what actions should be taken because a lot of his base doesn't believe in science and he pandered. Would they have acted like idiots anyway? Maybe. We'll never know for sure.

Andrew Cuomo - in case you missed it, he doesn't get a lot of love. He did initially, but his approval is way down.

Biden - mask mandate - Biden has issued a mandate as far as he can under his authority - all federal workers in federal spaces. he has urged states to reinstate mask mandates. That is the extent of the President's power here. But he has sent a clear message.

Fauci admitted that cases in Texas aren't what was predicted since the mandate was lifted. That's true. But mandates have made a difference. Cases were spiking last July and dropped drastically after the mandate went into affect. In my opinion, you now have people used to and willing to wear masks. Personal choices matter, but policies matter too.

Policies don’t appear to matter as much as you may think they do. Take a look at New York state vs Florida. New York locked down and put in all sorts of regulations, Florida mostly did not. Florida has a higher population than New York but less deaths from covid. Keep in mind that whenever you have a restrictive policy like that, lots of people tend to do the opposite. So being that the stupid will be stupid no matter what, don’t make life burdensome for everyone else.

Now take a look at Sweden, which never locked down or made mask wearing mandatory and they have a lower death rate than the US.

I also find it genuinely hilarious that the Democrats who nuked the US economy with lockdowns causing 48% more unemployment than the 2008 recession want to lecture Republicans about doing what’s best for the people.

Policies don't matter to you:::
To quote an early meme: there are two things that affect the spread of COVID, the density of the population and the density of the population. There is literally no other US city close to NYC in that regard to do an apples to apples comparison. NYC is over 8 million people spread across 300 square miles of land.

Compare that to Jacksonville, Florida (the most population dense city in Florida, 12th for the country) which has 911,000 people spread across 747 square miles.of land.

People do the opposite of what they are told - Is that like the 'criminals don't obey laws' argument? Why even have laws? What's the point of anything?

Sweden - 1395 deaths per 1 million people. USA - 1784 deaths per 1 million people. Sweden also apparently has high faith in their public health system and didn' t ignore recommendations. They have far lower cases of comorbidities. Again, its hard to draw a direct comparison.

And funniest yet - democrats nuked the economy. Walk me through it: The CDC, headed by a Trump appointee, in coordination with the White House task force issued recommendations. Some states followed and others didn't. The actual decision on lockdowns were 100% at the state level. Most states locked down. Some said they wouldn't but they all did when numbers spiked. Where did I overlook the Democrats in the scenario?

On several issues, usually those that are a matter of choice, people disobey the laws. That is why in the US, where alcohol consumption is more strict than in the UK for example, the drunk driving death rate is much higher with many of those from underage drinking. We also tried prohibition before which ended in giant failure.

Great, so it's population density and the US was always destined to have a terrible breakout because of that. Glad we cleared that up.

Big factor you brushed by when talking about Sweden: culture. The lockdowns only really work if people obey. From the looks of it, the US has a culture that is far less likely to obey the lockdown order than other countries such as Sweden.

You mostly explained it yourself. "The actual decision on lockdowns were 100% at the state level." There are 7 states that did not issue any stay at home order, all of which are red states. It's known that lockdowns are the cause of the economic crisis in 2020. It's also known that Republicans have been much more against locking down from the beginning. Blue states averaged a higher peak unemployment rate than red states and a slower recovery. If you want to pin that again on population density then I guess even though they were much tougher on covid precautions there's just no way to avoid a worse turnout.

On several issues...

I'm not clear on what constitutes 'an issue of choice' and not. What constitutes 'strickter' in the US? Drinking age? Penalty? Seems off topic, so feel free to skip.

The US was always destined...no, you are cherry picking two cities with different population densities and implying that these two cases tell us all we need to know about lockdowns. You are cherry picking the same states that the right seems to default to.

Top ten states by deaths per 100k

State / Deaths per 100k / Population per sq mile / Population density Rank
NJ / 288 / 1210 / #1
NY / 269 / 417 / #7
MA / 256 / 858 / #3
RI / 252 / 1017 / #2
MS / 242 / 63.7 / #32
AZ / 238 / 58.3 / #33
CT / 227 / 742.6 / #4
AL / 223 / 95.4 / #27
LA / 223 / 107.1 / #23
SD / 222 / 11.1 / #46

I think those numbers speak pretty well for themselves. Deaths per 100k should be higher at higher population densities. Social distancing becomes harder, diseases spread more easily, etc. And they kind of do for the blue states with the highest population density. But South Dakota? How the hell did they end up in the top 10? Social distancing should have been business as usual.

I didn't brush off culture with Sweden. They respect their doctors and trust their medical system. They were given medical advise and acted like adults. In hindsight, we should have have just started wearing masks and told all the conspiracy theorists on the right not to wear masks. I don't think anyone expected that to be a political issue. Ah well, live and learn. Everything is a political issue when you think of people who disagree with you as the enemy.

Economic recovery - The more populated states have a tendency to rely more on services like restaurants and tourism. I'm assuming that plays into it. If you know of a better analysis I'd be interested. Perhaps it is a matter of being more strict, but if rates go up, places will lockdown again. Even if they resisted, few are going to plan a vacation to a place with spiking cases.

I show 23 Democratic Governors and 27 Republican governors. Only 7 states didn't initially shut down. Quite a few postured as I recall, but in the end they flinched.

No way to avoid a worse turnout - nobody can see what might have been. I assume that we successfully suppressed the curve. To my knowledge, most states didn't blast through their medical capacity. It was close. That was my big worry, because the death rate would have gotten worse if people couldn't get oxygen or a bed.

He was not creating an insurrection. Challenging a questionable election is not wrong. Those drunken fools who went to the Capitol were the worst insurrectionists in the history of the world. They brought no guns, took no hostages, killed no one, did little damage, and left the place in tact.

And there is no questionable election. Just a lying-all-the-time narcissist. And that's a fact.

If you believe the election was stolen, as Trump said it was, then insurrection would have been justified. Seriously, if our democracy was being stolen, that would be worth fighting for. But it wasn't. And Trump had to know that. He riled people up and hoped it might change the confirmation process. The insurrectionists were dupes who believed a con man. In that regard, I feel for them.

He tried to to play the victim/outsider while in office. I mean, he was the guy. He appointed the head of the CDC and then blamed the CDC for stuff. And his people bought it. He tried to run on tenants that worked for a challenger, not the incumbent. It would be funny if it wasn't so very serious.

Because his supporters are proven stupid. Had they a few more smarts or better organisation, their goals of murder would probably have been attained.

lol no, no they didn't

Trump's white house was a revolving door of employees the entire time.. One of the few memes I actually submitted here was a dumb joke taking bets on how long one of his newly selected dudes would last...

Idk how Fauci survived... but I guess to be fair he did get shelved for a while.