Pork barrel politics at it's finest: Democrats trying to redefine "infrastructure"

TOO MUCH TRUTH and LOGIC going on here!

This Meme has been rekt and fakt chekt, now you can mald, censor me with downvoting brigade under a "low rated comment" link (which might even arouse someone unsuspecting traveler's curiosity even more), I don't care, you can't make it disappear and it's already there.

Bon appetite.

TOO MUCH DUMB and WRONG going on in so little room!

Far right memes are the prime example of easily manufactured junk, that only requires you to read a book like you're a text recognition software instead of a human being, in order to make the inanest of low effort crap.

So, the Cambridge definition doesn't include EVERY SINGLE EXAMPLE OF INFRASTRUCTURE, only "SUCH AS, transportation and power supplies" and therefore Democrats bad and thus free Healthcare = Stalinist Koreazuela...

Infrastructure is nothing but power plants and roads (and I guess oil and gas extraction and refinement/distribution, airplanes, railroads, transformer stations and power lines..., do I really have to write the entire list?
Am I a fake Fallout fan because I haven't played all games and unlocked all the secret areas and encounters in every single one of them?

Is this how you're proving that the term "Healthcare infrastructure" is Democrat invention?

Ah, yes, the American healthcare infrastructure is a series of atomized for profit institutions with their own infrastructure, both private and public, since Americans spend more in healthcare in both public/personal spending, than I do in taxes for something I get for free.

The healthcare infrastructure of your country is a death cult for a bunch of glorified middlemen to make a buck, so I can't blame you for having such a one dimensional understanding of how society works, that you think you can convince anybody, that infrastructure is just the two examples provided in the definition provided by an institution, which clout and prestige you're bold faced tailing on.

"The industry was accused of having invested little in workers, plant or infrastructure"

So, if we stick to the definition, the example sentence contradicts it for assuming that an industry is nothing but circuit breakers and trucks (power supplies and transportation) that unload in nonexistent bays, which doors are nothing but a hole in a wall with some cables hanging on, not connected to any mechanical infrastructure to open and close them).

You're gaslighting about how dictionaries work with the subtlety of a monster truck through a lamp shop, Umberto Eco and Carl Sagan himself, would have a field day with you and your boyfriends around here XD.

It is language appropriation. Plain and simple.

Infrastructure = tax increase.

And the problem is that the left buys that line of crap every time. The state, county and city governments foot the bill of infrastructure. The Feds are only responsible for interstate highways.

Who do you think pays for it?

Didn't you say your parents were born in the 1910s? Did they not ever tell you about the infrastructure (or total lack of) back till FDR had it built for them? Heck, when you were born they were still paving and wiring the South, generations after the North & Western coasts had it?

And?

And what? The Democrats at the Federal level are the ones always talking about our "crumbling infrastructure". The Feds are not responsible for the "crumbling infrastructure". The cities are first, then the county and then the state.

The amount of money the Democrats have stolen from the taxpayers to fix our "crumbling infrastructure" we should be driving on streets of gold.

Besides, what is to you. You're an Aussie. You have your own problems with your government blocking water supplies to the farmers in NSW.

And?

Maybe you guys should be a little more organized and not have such cognitive dissonances between federal and local governments.

This is how you can tell the United States are a country still in its adolescence.

Problem is the bully has enough nuclear bombs to glass the schoolyard.

"The amount of money the Democrats have stolen from the taxpayers to fix our "crumbling infrastructure" we should be driving on streets of gold."

Money is made up, you're a slave of the magical thinking of the current neoliberal economic orthodoxy.

Now tell me how do you think inflation works so I can have a laugh.

Tell me where are the CCP thugs coming to collect Japan's national debt, at 300% of its GDP.

Where Chinese communist capitalist debt collectors, ready to take away the future of their kids, as American fascists try to scare people about China's purchase of American debt, like we're still in the 50's, at?

BTW I'm not even Aussie, unlike John. In fact I'm not even a native anglophone, yet however, tho and, nonetheless, I'm gonna school you in your own country's economics and screwed up existence, which forces an orthodoxy onto other countries, such as mine, so, yeah, I'm double more qualified than you, to talk smack about the US of Mofockin' A.

I'm a Spaniard, and like a Conquistador, I stepped in your country before England figured out their own shit enough to compete in the colonial empire game, and like 500 years ago, ima arquebus your entire career and name your shit after villages, geographical accidents and Catholic saints.

Come on buddy, tell me how you little about the way the actual oligarchy, the actual ruling class whom you're doing their dirty deeds for them, presumably for free, is screwing you, and everything around you.

Come on man, tell me how much you've learned while being stuck in Economics 101, as most leftist you hate so much, are already at Economics 109.

Man! What an ego. I rarely meet anyone so completely full of themselves. Nah. I don't want to play with narcissists. You bore me.

Lol thanks for getting all triggered for the debate bro act. Like, you really think I'm like this all the time? f**k no!, that'd be stressing, It's only fun in "little" doses.

"ah. I don't want to play with narcissists. You bore me."

Since where were you under the impression that this is a game? I'm being serious despite the hyperbolic nature of the debate bro act, because we're talking about public health and safety.

I'm taking you more seriously than you're taking me, but I'm the narcissist?

Like I said, words don't mean anything to CONservacucks, this meme and entire thread is proof of it.

The etymology of "Infrastructure" is in the pudding, this is not my opinion, this is how the word has been used since the first time in XIXth century France, its meaning, timeless for subatomic particles are the infrastructure that make up for atomic structures such as molecules, same as molecules are the infrastructure that makes up for structures such as human body.

Or a hospital, you know, "power supplies and transport much?"

You're not a wizard, the meaning of infrastructure will not change because you want to, liberals aren't changing nothing that hasn't been already established, for the second time, as a timeless term coined in XIXth century France.

Infrastructure.
Infraestructura.
L'infrastructure.

This is like the "Transpallet" part of industrial infrastructure composed of forklifts, signaled floors for safety, shelves and bays, and the fuel/power source and supply for them to operate.

This internal transportation infrastructure is required to "Transport" goods and supplies in "Pallets" within the premises of the factory/warehouse.

See? more than just "power supplies" and "transportation", and it's just one of the infrastructures that make up for the larger structure of a factory, which in turn is part of a nation's private industrial sector.

This is some Bob the Builder stuff m8.

Speaking of words meaning things, define the word triggered? Because when I read your pompous diatribe I just laughed at you. My reaction wasn't (and still isn't) what you might consider triggered. My reaction was more along the lines of, "who does this guy think he is?". It really must be hard fitting through doorways with a head so big. How does your neck even support it?

You also use the word debate which you used a couple of time implies a discussion of opposing views between two or more people.

I haven't debated with you, therefore you have misused the word debate.

As far as infrastructure goes you really went off the point. Way off. For one I didn't make the meme, I just agree with the meme. If you want to "debate" semantics about the word infrastructure then take it up with Fat_Elvis (who made the meme). Or better yet, because the meme was to make fun of the leftist politicians who use the word "infrastructure" to mean one thing and then steal our money and use it for something completely different, take up the discussion with them.

Here is another phrase for you to define, individual liberty. After you define it then tell me it's importance and how best to preserve it.

You don't debate, period. Anyone. You read from a script.

Most of your posts literally post verbatim from the the transcript of "How the Specter of Communism Is Ruling Our World" and what little else you say is a deliberate falsification, down to you saying you were from Georgia, yet blaming me for the transgressions of your segregationist home you grew up in when I wasn't even born yet. In New York.

TO THE POWERS THAT BE: Kindly look it up. I'm not responsible for what he said. If there's something wrong with what he said, then excise his original commentS.

Infra means under

Structure means, well, structure.

End of discussion, take the L and apply ointment in affected area.

My individual liberty to not get sick nor see my loved ones get sick and die, is more important than your right to believe in fascist fairy tales.

Stay away from me with that unwitting chicom laboratory you call a body.

So that is your individual liberty but what about everyone else's individual liberty? Do you even care about that? You cannot claim you have the right to someone else's labor with or without compensation.

I am not a fascist. Fascists are Marxists who allow business owners to maintain their businesses while under complete government control. I oppose any version of Marxism because all it has ever done is produced death, suffering and poverty.

"Goebbels was a Marxist along with Hitler. So was Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, Castro and Guevara."
You've just reached peak Goebbelsian projection, it doesn't get more blatant than this.

The rest of your post is nothing but an empty platitude where you try to redefine what freedom is, based in lies and purposeful ignorance, at a time where lies and purposeful ignorance are a danger to us all.

You're part of humanity's current Great Filter, it's a thing about the Fermi Paradox and I totally understand how it feels like to try and teach what a highway is to an ant.

Yes my guy, you're an ant, I'm your god (I mean, I'm just being hyperbolic to trigger you, I've taken you seriously enough, and contrary to popular belief, this is not a job for me so I need to loosen up a bit.

"Freedom is the most precious gift mankind has ever been given and also, considering the history of mankind, one of the rarest gift."

Humanity has freedom because we got civilization, so we're free to walk around without having to constantly worrying about suspicious rustling in the tall grass that didn't sound like wind at all.

We lose the "freedom" to run around in the woods whenever we want because of the settlement's adobe walls, but we weren't all that "free" to do so, precisely because of the wolves and bears we built our city to stay safe from, which is a natural extension of what the bonfire in a cavern used to do to keep wild animals at bay, and eventually tame some wolves.

Freedom is a more complex issue than your obsession with positive freedoms, which is what all RadCons and right wing Libertarians do, which is cringe and shows a childish understanding of the world, which is why my motto is to help conservatives to grow up with some tough love.

My snarkieness hurts me more than it hurts you, but it's for your own good.

Get a thicker skin and grow up, if you want the advantages of civilized society, you gotta accept the responsibilities.

If you don't, then why don't just go live to the Libertarian Paradise of Somalia?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

All his posts are like that.
Even when he does starts off stating what is factually correct, he veers into a "so therefore leftist" newspeak revisioning and proceeds to completely contradict what he had stated but in a manner which is supposed to reconfigure it to some Alt Reichty propaganda...

Not a projection. It's a fact. Nazism is Hitler's version of Marxism and socialism. If you don't know that you don't know history.

The rest of what I said was about how you don't believe in freedom. You think it is a myth and I believe it is a goal. A goal that America came close to achieving 200 years ago but has since been all but destroyed by narcissistic socialists.

Rather than given into statism because you only think freedom is a myth, why not try fighting to achieve that goal.

There are a whole lot of us fighting people who think like you to take what rightfully belongs to us back.

Be a part of the solution, not the problem.

"So that is your individual liberty but what about everyone else's individual liberty? Do you even care about that? You cannot claim you have the right to someone else's labor with or without compensation."

For the millionth time, your individual liberty to believe in lies that put others in danger is not a liberty that deserves to be defended, because freedom of expression is a social contract, not a moral absolute.

I don't care how you wanna twist it, you're still crying "fire" in a crowded theater.

Besides who the f**k is talking about labor now? Weren't we talking about infrastructure?

"I am not a fascist. Fascists are Marxists who allow business owners to maintain their businesses while under complete government control"

What on Goebbelsian projection is you sayin'? Marxists want workers to own businesses in equal share with owners and petite bourgeoisie (managers), and hold democratic control over decisions on what to produce, how much to produce, and what to do with it.

Quite the opposite of what you're describing there my guy!

Further on, Nazis invented privatization as we know it today, and under very similar pretenses, and every fascist government is riffed with nepotism (ask the hundreds of private companies like Hugo Boss and Telefónica de España.

Fascism is the most power hungry sector of the ruling class, reacting against social progress to keep their privileges. They bust unions and outright replace them, like Franco's "Sindicato Vertical", with puppet organizations. They pursue and execute all manner of socialist, leftist and Marxists as well.
Lol that reminds me of Pinochet's famous Helicopter rides for, amongst others, those suspected of being a, gasp, Marxist XD.

In actual socialism you only need the state to guarantee unionizing workers safety from Pinkerton thugs and to protect private property (collectively owned by the workers but still a private company like Grupo Mondragón.

What Marxists want is for workers to know how much profits the owners are making, compared with how much they're being paid, and then have the ability to collectively negotiate for better conditions with unions, and guaranteed right to safety from Pinkerton thugs while doing so.

You're literally engaging in Goebbelsian projection in the same breathe you're denying being a fascist, and the irony isn't lost on me.

"For the millionth time, your individual liberty to believe in lies that put others in danger is not a liberty that deserves to be defended, because freedom of expression is a social contract, not a moral absolute."

That's all I need to know about you. You are what I thought you were from the beginning. You are a hopeless Marxist who believes that you are superior to everyone else.

Freedom is irrelevant to you. In fact you despise it. You believe that the only thing freedom brings is people believing in lies. It also includes people believing the truth or whatever they want to believe.

Freedom is the most precious gift mankind has ever been given and also, considering the history of mankind, one of the rarest gift.

You can blather on and on and on all you want about your superior intellect and about how right you are but the fact is, if you think Marxism is the answer to everything then all of your supposed intellect is wasted.

Goebbels was a Marxist along with Hitler. So was Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, Castro and Guevara.

So you can just take your tyranny and shove it. I want no part of it. If you are not for individual liberty then I have no interest in any so-called debate.

To quote the great French taunter in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, "Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries"

"Not a projection. It's a fact. Nazism is Hitler's version of Marxism and socialism. If you don't know that you don't know history."

Calling yourself a socialist, does not make you a socialist, specially when actions beyond your words, prove you're literally the opposite;

-Arresting union leaders.

-Arresting suspected leftists.

-Killing and torturing union leaders and suspected leftists.

-Some of the antisemitic talking points are based in "Cultural Bolshevism".

-Inventing privatization of public services as we know it today, and under pretty much the same pretenses.

-Neither Hugo Boss, BMW nor Bayern, were worker owned co-ops, and not even state capitalist owned like in the USSR, but straight up private corporations in bed with the government.

Stop lying about socialism, it doesn't work when people who know more than two sentences about history are reading your lies

" You cannot claim you have the right to someone else's labor with or without compensation."

What brand of glue are you on? Where did I claim to have the right someone else's labor?

I'm saying literally the opposite, that nobody but workers are entitled to their labor, and if anything I'm willing to concede to run things like a privately owned co-op, even if those who placed the initial capital/following investments, get their equal share of profits, ownership and authority without working, since they invested money instead of time and energy (or labor) like their workers.

And it's not really saying they're entitled to someone else's sweat, they're entitled to an equal share if they invested, because that investment has to be rewarded somehow, you need an investment.

Wow!, It's almost as if socialist checks and balances are actually the best way to run a free market so it works for society as a whole and it's actually more productive and prosperous.

This is not some obscure Marxist thought current, the only ones affected by this, are psychopaths with more money than they could spend in a thousand lifetimes.

It's almost as if Socialism is not what you pretend it is, and almost as if you're consistently pushing something you know it's a lie.

Do you seriously think Marx was all about setting up a little commune????

Marx was a malignant narcissist who looked at people as ants where he is the ant queen. He wrote love poetry to Satan. He hated Jews. He hated blacks and referred to them with the "N" word. His wife left him and his children alienated themselves from him. He dies a penniless miserable old man.

Nothing else you have to say is of any relevance as long as you are opposed to individual liberty. Until you give up endorsing tyranny and embrace liberty everything you are saying is caca. Have fun living in chains on your knees.

"Do you seriously think Marx was all about setting up a little commune????

Marx was a malignant narcissist who looked at people as ants where he is the ant queen. He wrote love poetry to Satan. He hated Jews. He hated blacks and referred to them with the "N" word. His wife left him and his children alienated themselves from him. He dies a penniless miserable old man.

Nothing else you have to say is of any relevance as long as you are opposed to individual liberty. Until you give up endorsing tyranny and embrace liberty everything you are saying is caca. Have fun living in chains on your knees."

That doesn't address any of what I said, you're just talking easy crap about a dead guy to try and distract me.

Grow up.

Great meme, upvoted and everything, but I don't think that it's the non-democrats that need the dictionary definition but rather the democrats that don't know what infrastructure is.

Yeah, I hear what you're saying. I guess what I was getting at is that no matter what a word actually means, to the left it will mean whatever is politically expedient for them at the time. Sort of like their political views; no foundation, no core beliefs, but instead they lick their finger and hold it up in the wind to see what they believe.

Transportation infrastructure of Ambulances, ambulance workshops, ambulance and medical supplies transported by vans or trucks respectively (or an ambulance in a hurry, and the bureaucracy allows for such exception).

And power supply infrastructure such as circuit breakers or, the AC to DC adapters for electronics to adapt the amperage and polarity of the AC current supplied by the grid to different apparatus.

Infra means bellow, under

Structure means, well, structure.

Infrastructure is the structure behind the structure, or the mechanisms inside a machine,

Structures, substructures and superstructures, different layers of order interacting with one another to make something greater than the sum of its parts... A FREAKING HOSPITAL/HOSPITAL CHAIN XDXDXD.

Sorry but you can't just decide what words mean and then, in the same breath, accuse those who point out what you're doing of them being the ones doing it, when it's pretty clear it's not.

But I guess I must not believe my lying eyes, and just take you on your word because you lie with the same confidence as I say the truth.

Gaslighting is cringe bro, give it a rest.

You know Healthcare has infrastructure such as " "Power supply" and "transportation"?

Then you have the gall of saying that "to the left it will mean whatever is politically expedient for them at the time", when your own meme and the very comment I'm replying to, and examples of precisely what you are accusing "the left" (Nice fascism there kid, reducing an entire ideology to "that thing", you can't argue that F actually stands for Fat, Naughty boy)

You're gonna deny it and project harder, but the proof is on the pudding, and the pudding's ingredients have been laid bare.

What's infrastructure then?

I'm copypasting my own post because I don't need to write the same thing twice, since the nonsense you're saying warrants the same response:

"So, the Cambridge definition doesn't include EVERY SINGLE EXAMPLE OF INFRASTRUCTURE, only "SUCH AS, transportation and power supplies" and therefore Democrats bad and thus free Healthcare = Stalinist Koreazuela...

Infrastructure is nothing but power plants and roads (and I guess oil and gas extraction and refinement/distribution, airplanes, railroads, transformer stations and power lines..., do I really have to write the entire list?
Am I a fake Fallout fan because I haven't played all games and unlocked all the secret areas and encounters in every single one of them?

Is this how you're proving that the term "Healthcare infrastructure" is Democrat invention?

Ah, yes, the American healthcare infrastructure is a series of atomized for profit institutions with their own infrastructure, both private and public, since Americans spend more in healthcare in both public/personal spending, than I do in taxes for something I get for free.

The healthcare infrastructure of your country is a death cult for a bunch of glorified middlemen to make a buck, so I can't blame you for having such a one dimensional understanding of how society works, that you think you can convince anybody, that infrastructure is just the two examples provided in the definition provided by an institution, which clout and prestige you're bold faced tailing on.

"The industry was accused of having invested little in workers, plant or infrastructure"

So, if we stick to the definition, the example sentence contradicts it for assuming that an industry is nothing but circuit breakers and trucks (power supplies and transportation) that unload in nonexistent bays, which doors are nothing but a hole in a wall with some cables hanging on, not connected to any mechanical infrastructure to open and close them)."

I pay less in Social Security paycheck deductions that pay for healthcare infrastructure, unemployment, welfare and education infrastructure.

Yeah, Infrastructure literally means "Structure bellow" Infra= bellow, Structure= duh.

The Latin roots of infrastructure mean simply “underneath or below the structure.” This word was in fact never used by Romans; it was coined in French from Latin parts in the late 1800s, initially used (unsurprisingly) to refer to the substructure or foundation of a building, road, or railroad."

It's okay, I hate me, too. ^_^

Interesting!

Your teacher is not infrastucture, but they're part of the infrastructure of public education.

Infra: under, bellow

Structure: DURRRR!!!

Get it or do you need me to dumb it down to finger count?

If finger-counting helps you figure it out, that's great. Thanks for overanalyzing a joke I made based on a Phineas and Ferb song.

Lmao you made a joke trying to make a point, and I blasted it into background radiation with my ray gun.

There's nothing more to it, you're the one overanalyzing.

Your ray gun?? Oh, how sweet. And did you and Iron man go out for ice cream, sweetie?

Look, I made a meme, you used hyperbole. We even?

I also used metaphors, that ray gun wasn't real, and I was thinking more of a phaser but tomato tomayto.

It won't change the fact you're purposely ignoring how words work and how etymology help us understand why we talk this way and not another, and why we use the words we use.

But yeah, sure, you made a meme and I used some hypewpewrbole so, yeah, we're as Even as Steven and Eden at a Seven Eleven .

Lmao the dolphin's face didn't make my day nearly as much as looking at someone resorting to some bottom of the barrel grammar policing.

Glad I could make it, either way.

Health care and housing is infrastructure. Also working with a party that flip flops, abandons Texans, endorses the idea that space lasers cause wild fires, when the voters elected you doesn’t make sense until they change their behavior.

Big Brother rewriting language.

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Nice try buddy, but Cancum Cruz has been busted, if you defend him you're basically feed at this point.

Healthcare and housing sound like basic systems and services needed for a country to work effectively.

That's a reasonable argument, but they're not infrastructure. If the left wants to spend money on those things, then propose a bill to do so, and have an honest debate. But bullshitting and claiming a bill is infrastructure when it's mostly not, it typical politicans' lies.

It actually falls under the definition of "soft infrastructure".
"One way by which to classify types of infrastructure is to view them as two distinct kinds: hard infrastructure and soft infrastructure. Hard infrastructure refers to the physical networks necessary for the functioning of a modern industry.[4] This includes roads, bridges, railways, etc. Soft infrastructure refers to all the institutions that maintain the economic, health, social, environmental, and cultural standards of a country.[4] This includes educational programs, official statistics, parks and recreational facilities, law enforcement agencies, and emergency services."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrastructure
Nobody's changing the definition of words here... except the person who made this meme.

With all due respect, we can't twist words to mean what we want them to, depending on the circumstance. Like I said, if they want to spend on whatever they want to spend on, then fine. Just call it what it is, accurately, and then let the debate begin. I may not like what the money gets spent on, but given that I respect the process, I would have to respect the outcome. I just don't like the being lied to.

The only ones twisting meaning here are you lot. This is the definition of infrastructure. The definition has NOT been changed. This meme is outrage over literally nothing.

These people think etymology must be a Cultural Marxist plot to feminize frogs I dunno, they're doing performance art this point.

Yeah, it's in the process of trying to be changed by those who want to use the new definition to their advantage. Which is pretty much just a way to spend money without people realizing what's going on.

And since you apparently like all of that, you're blinded to the fact that there are those who are trying to change the definition. Ignoring what's happening doesn't mean it's not happening.

You're just regurgitating what the media tells you. Open your eyes and think for yourself on this issue. I suspect you'd find doing so to be quite liberating.

Bullshit.

Nice reply... if I wanted a reply from someone with a 4th grade ability to discuss issues intelligently.

You took your time replying. And I already proved you wrong.

Basic etymology proves them wrong XD