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Discourse and thinking for yourself is dangerous to our democracy.

Discourse and thinking for yourself is dangerous to our democracy. | image tagged in parler,free speech,big tech,censorship | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
2,046 views 42 upvotes Made by ross09ya 4 years ago in politics
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4 ups, 4y
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5 ups, 4y
thanks now i know what to avoid
2 ups, 4y
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4 ups, 4y,
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Where your argument fails is that Amazon as a private company cannot be legally forced to provide a service it doesn’t want to.

If Parler can find alternative hosting, it’s welcome to.

However, that alternative web host has to be willing to accept the risk of potential liability if one of their hateful users does something violent. (This has happened before on 8Chan, with racist users uploading racist manifestos and then going out committing mass shootings, so it’s not a hypothetical)

In the wake of Jan. 6, and after demanding reforms that Parler was unable or unwilling to meet, Amazon was unwilling to accept that risk and severed the business relationship as it had a legal right to do.
12 ups, 4y,
2 replies
It’s great to see leftists fighting for billion dollar multinational corporations against ordinary American citizens. It really warms the heart.
10 ups, 4y,
1 reply
They’re all petty tyrants. They have an inherent need to tell everyone else what to think and how to live. This is Diametrically opposed to the principles of individual Liberty and freedom. They beg for chains, but they want to put them on anyone who objects to their tyranny. China is their model.
5 ups, 4y
Another person that refuses to watch the several days of State Representative Hearings, detailing the election fraud.

Go. Watch. The. Hearings.
4 ups, 4y
Where did I say that?
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
So far, this tyrant and dictator of yours, has not done one thing to undermine democracy in this country. It is the democrats who are chipping away at the constitution every and any way they can.
Democrats have gone after free speech and 2nd amendment.

Election fraud is not my definition of 'democratically elected'.

Three days ago Pelosi asked the Pentagon to disobey Trumps orders until end of his term. Pentagon officials explained to her 'she was asking them to stage a military coup'. Put down 'orangeman bad' for second and think about that.
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
This comment aged poorly...
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
What are you going on about?
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
"Trump has not done one thing to undermine democracy in this country" lol
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
What has he done exactly?
0 ups, 3y,
2 replies
Oh I dunno, an attempted coup. Lying about electoral fraud. Stuff like that. (You guys don't still believe that crap do you?)
0 ups, 3y
Everyone who believes in the principles this country was founded on is trying to prevent him from holding power, yes. He's a threat to the nation.
0 ups, 3y
He organized an attempted coup??? LMFAO!! Holly Shit!

Can we both agree that there has been an organized effort by politicians, alphabet agencies, and MSM to bring him down any way, for any reason? Agree?
3 ups, 4y
The domestic terrorists are MSM, big-tech, congress, and if you don't cool your jets with the treasonous lies, yourself, we'll make an example out of you too.
5 ups, 4y,
2 replies
These are the demanding reforms Parler opposed:
"Apple will be banning Parler until they give up free speech, institute broad and invasive policies like Twitter and Facebook and become a SURVEILLANCE platform by pursuing guilt of those who use Parler before innocence."

It has nothing do to with 8chan-like manifestos, and for you to use that as your argument is just WRONG, further spreading the main stream narrative and bullshit.

This was done on the day violent suggestion "Hang Mick Pence" trended on Twitter. At this moment on Twitter, there is porn, child porn, and violent threats made by Antifa and others. Neither one is addressed, condemned, or taken down, and Twitter is not threatened to be shut down by Apple and Google.

Bakery that does not want to produce cakes decorated with cocks is also a private company. How did that work out with your tolerant mob?
2 ups, 4y
People like Commiekaze will never admit their hypocrisy. It’s there primary tool. Act offended when the opposition does exactly what you do.
1 up, 4y,
4 replies
The hashtag "Hang Mick [sic] Pence" trended on Twitter because Twitter users were interested in WHAT RIGHTIES WERE SAYING about hanging Mike Pence, because evidence indicates certain members of the Capitol Hill riot had a mind to do.

So, banning that hashtag to prevent average Americans from learning about the rioters' motives would be stupid and counterproductive in the extreme. However, any posts actually calling for hanging Mike Pence would have been removed.

Context, dude.

Also:

--Hosting "porn" on a website isn't illegal.
--Hosting child porn is illegal, but I have no idea where you get the idea Twitter hosts child porn willingly. Sounds like something you made up or cribbed from Parler's defenders. If child porn is ever found on Twitter it would be flagged and removed.
--Same thing with "violent threats." If it's flagged and the Twitter mods know about it, they'll take it down.

Parler by contrast has minimal to no content moderation.
6 ups, 4y,
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Child porn is routinely found on large social media platforms along with death threats. Since social media is choosing what they host, they are no longer protected by section 230 and can be shut down every time someone reports it.
3 ups, 4y
If you really believe in this theory and want to make it your personal mission to comb through Twitter for anything looking like child porn in order to take down Twitter in a retaliatory effort to "own the libz" or whatever, have at it.

However, I doubt.

I think the first thing the authorities would ask you is whether you flagged it, and if you didn't, thereby giving Twitter itself an opportunity to review and correct the violation, they'd probably show you the door.
2 ups, 4y,
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Oh so now you’re against banning hash tags so average Americans can see what’s going on? You were ok with it being banned when it was about Hunter Biden before the election. Your selective approval convicts you
of blatant hypocrisy and petty tyrant status.
1 up, 4y,
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One hashtag describes a thing that actually happened, the other described patent nonsense procured by Giuliani from dubious sources, likely with Russian assistance, in an open and obvious October surprise hit job

Reality is a thing, being on the right side of it matters

Hope this helps
1 up, 4y,
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Yet these supposed dubious sources were right and he is and was under investigation. There lies your hypocrisy doesn’t it. You aren’t the good guys. Sorry to tell you Censorship and hypocrisy are not the hallmark of the good guys.
1 up, 4y
Hunter Biden's been under investigation by legitimate authorities for tax-related stuff. Not for being a pedophile. That was a hit job by Trump's personal attorney.

Know who else has been under investigation by legitimate authorities for tax-related stuff?

Donald J. Trump!
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
UH-OH!!!

"I have no idea where you get the idea Twitter hosts child porn willingly. Sounds like something you made up or cribbed from Parler's defenders. If child porn is ever found on Twitter it would be flagged and removed."

LMFAO!!!!

Didn't have wait long to prove how full of fücking shit you are!!!
0 ups, 4y
https://www.scribd.com/document/491614044/Doe-v-Twitter

If you put on your reading glasses, you’ll see that Twitter did take the content down within 9 days of the first request. (First request: Jan. 21, 2020 — see paragraph 83. Content removed: Jan. 30, 2020 — see paragraph 97.)

Admittedly, it appears there were errors on Twitter’s part in initially failing to answer the request to remove the content; however, this looks like a one-off Mod error. The insinuation that Twitter willfully and systematically hosts child porn is still ridiculous.

Tl;dr one of the millions of Twitter users was aggrieved for a whole week last year.

Of note, this lawsuit was filed by the NCSE (an organization which has an axe to grind against all porn) and is being hyped by those on the Right who currently have an axe to grind against Big Tech in general, thanks to Big Tech’s crackdown on right-wing domestic terrorism in the wake of Jan. 6.

This is not a bombshell that will bring Twitter down, it’s just a storyline to provide Righties with some outrage on a week where very few things are going their way.

But, this was an interesting one to chew on. Thanks.
2 ups, 4y,
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You give a shit about context, dude?
Three words: VERY FINE PEOPLE

Making up child porn,... yeah, ok
Wanna see Hunter f**king an 8 year old? It's all over Twitter.
1 up, 4y
Yeeeeeeaaaaaaah I think I’m just gonna X doubt that
2 ups, 4y
3 ups, 4y
Imagine forgetting what was promoted by MSM for the last several years, and then faking-outrage if Congress orders US capitol police to allow "protesters" inside the Capitol building, so that MSM can paint all Trump supporters as "domestic terrorists", and then buying it hook-line-and-sinker.
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