covid lockdowns

They had to make room for those who refused to wear masks and opened up their small business.

Lockdowns didn't work, but the left enjoys doing things that don't work and have a history of not working, over and over, cause they believe in their tiny little minds that it'll work THIS TIME.

First, the lockdowns were implemented to relieve the stress on hospitals and to ensure we did not run out of medical supplies. For the most part, they worked in that regard but not in regards to contain the virus. This was initially hotly debated when it was proposed and Trump determined that beyond the initial lockdown, it was out of the federal governments hands.

We are locking down again because viruses typically spread easier during the late fall and winter because it is colder. That is why you are more likely to get sick during these months rather than say in the summer. COVID-19 is no exception to that. And, in fact, it was always projected that cases may actually double the amount we originally had in the spring. Not double as in a second even wave, but double in addition to what we had. So, it makes perfect sense to again implement lockdown procedures to weather this virus.

If it makes you feel any better, restrictions are being lessened across the country and it is possible these lockdowns will not last as long as the first cycle (unless cases keep rising fast) and should states be more than prepared, we might see a faster drop off than we did in spring despite record high cases (and deaths) a day.

That doesn't mean you should go about your life business as usual. I recommend staying in-doors as often as you can, work from home if that is an option and work at all if you must to keep paying those bills, but keep personal meetings to online or phone, cut down on daily or weekly gorcery trips to once a month if you can, and maintain your personal hygiene and mask up. If you refuse to these simple guidelines, that is fine. Especially if, for you, they are just not that simple. However, I ask that you do not be too surprised if harder measures are put in place if your community shares your carless opinion about a dangerous global pandemic. No, I don't expect you to be locked up, or fined, and I absolutely support you contesting that. And I hope you win. But I would rather you reconsider that this is all some global conspiracy to take over the world, if you are thinking that. That would be some feat, I think. One bordering on the realm of fiction. Entertaining yes, but far from realistic. Instead, try to take part in that classic holiday spirit of thinking of your neighbors needs rather than just your own. If you have any questions or if you wish to take out your frustrations on me, I'm perfectly happy to turn the other cheek.

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- Hospitals were never overrun, and still aren't. Countless videos online of empty hospitals and waiting rooms when media is reporting how overwhelmed they are.

- Mercy and Comfort left LA and NY without seeing a single covid patient.

- Field hospitals in Seattle and NY were closed down without seeing a single covid patient.

- Media in US, Germany, Australia, and Italy caught using the same fake ER room filled with dummies to show distress of first line workers. All four claimed this 'room' was in their respective country.

- MSM aired segment on ER “Dr” Colleen Smith from Elmhurts Hospital in NY who gave an “insiders view on overstretched facilities”. Her online bio says she has a focus in “medical simulation”. Her LinkedIn does not mention her being a doctor.

- Spain, France, and others complained about covid tests producing 60-80% false positives.

- Not one person around the world has fallen face down onto pavement since the first and only footage of people in Wuhan back in January. All meant to spread fear.

- First aide workers producing TicTok videos singing and dancing in empty hospital rooms and hallways. No time for that in a pandemic.

- Hospitals received incentives for each covid diagnosis, and x5 that amount when patient ends up on ventilator.

- Masks don't work and aren't recommended for prolonged and continuous use.

- If a virus is a size of mosquito, then fibers in N95 mask are the size of chainlink fence. If you believe chainlink fence will stop a mosquito, wear a mask.

- If masks work, why not require them during flu season?

- If masks work, why not give them to inmates instead of releasing them into public?

- The fact that they allow bandanas and glass shields without mask, or anything else people wrap around their face, should tell you this has nothing to do with your health and everything to do with your obedience.

- WHO initially listed covid mortality rate at 3.2%, since then they quietly brought it down to 0.16% - flu season numbers.

- WHO said lockdowns did nothing but create poverty.

- CDC admitted only 6% of deaths were covid related, the rest had on average 2.6 underlying conditions.

- Families are disputing covid as cause of death on death certificates. CDC counted 27,911 deaths from heart attack, 8,636 deaths to intentional/unintentional poisoning, 38,706 deaths from diabetes, and 9,013 deaths from obesity, as covid deaths.

[3] I have not been following WHO as there are valid reasons to be skeptical for their reports. However, the initial reports of the fatality of the virus are based on case fatality. Which is fairly accurate. During the Spring and early Summer, case fatalities around the world exceeded 5%. While the world wide population fatality is currently at 0.019%, the world case fatality is still currently at 2.3%. I am not sure where (or rather when) you got 0.16% from, but perhaps it was 0.016% world population fatality rate being reported and you forgot a zero. This would make your claim more probable. Still, these are not flu numbers, as the average annual flu case fatality 0.10% or rather, an average about 500,000 people worldwide die from influenza, while COVID deaths are nearing three times that amount. That is a significant number. Not to mention that influenza and coronavirus are two separate viruses. This current strain is three times as dangerous as seasonal flu. Thus, it should still be taken seriously.

WHO may have attributed to creating poverty, but I doubt they phrased that so absolutely.

The CDC admitted that only 6% of covid deaths had no underlying conditions. As COVID weakens the immune system, it can increase the average fatality of other underline conditions. That doesn't mean COVID was not a contributing factor on the 93.9% of other cases.

Families contesting the cause of death on death certificates is not proof the virus is a hoax. Some of these disputes may be legitimate, and I believe they absolutely deserve to have a second opinion to be absolutely sure of the cause of death. Unfortunately, due to precautions of preventing the spread of COVID, it may take a while before we know how many of those disputes are legitimate. In the meanwhile, it is best to take the medical opinion of trained professionals rather than families who untrained or otherwise misinformed.

I must admit, this entire list was pulled of the top of my head, and my memory has failed me with some numbers: Correction - not 3.2% but 3.4%, and not 0.16% but 0.13%.
I dug up a story I referenced:
https://www.wnd.com/2020/10/4859570/

As I agree with you that covid may weaken the immune system, but there are no tests to confirm that covid was the cause of (i.e.) cardiac arrest. Lines have been drawn, except recently redrawn in favor of covid.

If someone broke into my house in the middle of the night, and the sound of shattering window in the basement frightened me to the point I had a heart attack and died. Would that be considered a homicide? Was I murdered? No. It sure contributed, but I expect CoD to be listed as cardiac arrest. That is not the case with covid.

Today was reported that Ontario has been counting suicides as cover deaths. Suicides are through the roof in places with lock-downs, so I guess since covid contributed to that, lets count it.

You can see for yourself list of conditions contributing to deaths involving covid:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities

You say 500K die from influenza worldwide, why are they all now listed under covid? No one dies from just influenza these days? What a wasted statistic that would have been, huh? As I mentioned earlier, PCR tests, test for coronavirus which includes common cold and influenza among others, so they’re counting it all. We’re now entering a cold/flu season so of course everything is spiking around the world. While shopping, I checked couple of pharmacy’s around, and all flu medication is gone. I asked about it. First the pharmacist was surprised, then told me that it must be sold out. When I pointed out that there is not even a space with an empty shelve for it to be sold out. They told me that they get whatever the distributor delivers and that they have no control over that. Hmmm?

No, you’re right, families contesting the CoD on death certificates is not proof the virus is a hoax, but it proves an effort to inflate the numbers. I’ve already mentioned that Ontario has been counting suicides as covid deaths. Here’s another recent one:

Builder, 51, who died after falling from a 10ft ladder was actually killed by coronavirus, doctors say
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8958309/Builder-51-died-falling-10ft-ladder-killed-coronavirus.html

More on it, if interested:
COVID-19 Deaths Reported in Oregon Include Those Who Didn’t Die from The Virus
https://www.freedomfoundation.com/covid-19/covid-19-deaths-reported-in-oregon-include-those-who-didnt-die-from-the-virus/

[1] I don't believe hospitals were never alleged empty by staff. Volunteers unfamiliar with hospital protocols, perhaps. The evidence that pointed to such was referring to the fact that whole wards were devoted to covid patients so that regular patients could still be treated. The fact is, there were numerous hospitals, usually in urban areas, that were under heavy strain. The videos you're referring to are patients who were in the non-covid wards. And there were hospitals that had to turn people away due to how minor their injuries were. If there injuries were more severe, and they had visitors, then that is how these videos were likely produced.

The reason Mercy and Comfort saw few patients were due to protocols. Chiefly among them was that no one infected was allowed on board due to military/navy protocols. It was a huge cock up.

The field hospitals took too long to set up that by the time Seattle and got them, we were already seeing a plateau in cases. They were sent elsewhere.

You are correct, media across the globe erroneously used footage of a distressed hospital room to show the severity of the virus. However, this footage was from Italy, and I haven't found any evidence to suggest they were full of dummies. The media stations that used this footage out of context have apologized for doing so and claimed it was an error.

I don't believe LinkedIn is an official registry of whether or not she has an MD. She does appear to have one according to Mount Sinai's website.
https://www.mountsinai.org/profiles/colleen-smith

Yes, false positives are still a concern but I believe testing has dramatically improved since those initial reports.

People not falling down on pavements doesn't mean COVID-19 is not a serious issue. It having a case fatality rate of above 1% is why it is a serious issue.

There should always be time to take a break and relax. As for why these wards are empty, despite concerns that they may be pushed to the limit, I've already explained why this might be the case.

That is correct that hospitals received incentives if they reported a case and put a patient on ventilators, but these incentives were in the form of medical supplies and equipment. There is little evidence that fraud has occurred just because it can occur. It is still a valid concern but doesn't negate the seriousness of the virus.

If your source is as recent as June, might I see it in regards to masks not working?

[1]Well, the videos I’m referring to are of hospital staff (first line workers), not patients. People investigating for themselves, walking into empty ‘covid designated areas’, and ER waiting rooms with staff bored out of their minds, when the media told them how overwhelmed the hospital in question was. This is happening to this day. In fact, today a woman was arrested in the UK for filming in inside empty hospital.

Field hospitals took too long to set up, and by the time they were up, there was plateau in cases - that is absolutely wrong. These field hospitals were set up by military trained personnel within days, in late March-early April. Don’t have the exact date, but on April 10th it was reported that Seattle/NY FH’s closed without seeing a single patient. In March and April, many states were averaging about 32,000 new COVID-19 cases per day. In July, daily covid cases hit nearly 68,000, according to JHUM. How exactly is that plateauing?

Of course the media apologized and called it an error. It always is, just an innocent error, isn’t it? Just like (recently) when the footage from a Kentucky gun range was confused for Syria. You believe that? Really? Look into ‘Smith-Mundt Act of 1948’ that Obama destroyed in 2012 and replaced with ‘Smith-Mundt Modernization Act’, paving a way for the media to use lies/propaganda against the public. Please remember that in his first staff meeting in 1981, CIA director William Casey said: “We will know our disinformation program is complete, when everything American public believes is false.”

You don’t believe LinkedIn, where people post their CVs/resumes and build professional network, but you trust plain ‘ol web page without verification…okay. Yes, I was aware of Mount Sinai’s page.

Besides faulty test kits, false positives are (primarily) based on numbers of cycles the sample undergoes. Once testing exceeds 32 cycles it finds dead virus cells from prior coronavirus (including common cold, influenza) illness up to 18 moths back. Look to Fauci explaining how ‘live virus’ is detected up to 32, and running tests beyond that is useless. Some places run them in excess of 50 cycles,…how else to get the cases up? Cases, cases, cases,.. it’s all about the cases now. At the beginning of the “pandemic” they focused their reporting on deaths, since lockdowns ended, it’s been all about the cases. Through contact-tracing they can get these numbers even higher without testing those who the tested person came in contact with.

[2] You’re right, people not falling down on pavements doesn’t mean covid is not serious. But it does mean it was Chinese produced fear-porn to scare the entire global population before the virus arrived on their shores.

That’s the thing, there are no studies, and they’re not interesting in conducting them. Just do it! Don’t believe your five senses, believe what we tell you (this programming has been going on for while now). When they made seatbelts mandatory, they’ve conducted tests on crash test dummies and showed us results. They’re not willing to do the same in regards to masks.

Doctor on mask wearing, and risk associated with prolonged use.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1303091880670842880/pu/vid/640x640/HSymUftrr3ghy22W.mp4

Doctor on prolonged use and WHO/CDC/NEJM guidelines
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1288566755154186240/pu/vid/640x360/nButuQ3Pahr0hrf8.mp4

Reuters has “fact-checked” this claim, and we shouldn’t be alarmed. All of the sudden, a warm and highly humid environment (underneath the mask) is no place for fungus to thrive and grow, that you are forced to re-inhale. What a joke.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-masks-fungal-lung-infection-idUSKBN24B25H

At the bottom Reuters says they’ve debunked claim that wearing a mask would cause hypercapnia. But not until you click that link, you realize that it’s only partially true. Again, we’re meant to ignore our five senses and struggling to breathe in support of their claims.

Dentists say 'mask mouth' can cause serious health complications, including strokes:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mask-mouth-dentists-warn-prolonged-use-of-masks-leading-to-poor-oral-hygiene

Fauci on masks making people feel good
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1294077524633194496/pu/vid/640x360/VX6bIvA69QfQCBwx.mp4

[2] The virus may be the size of a mosquito and the fibers may be the size of a chainlinked fence, but it has been widely reported that the virus mostly travels via water droplets. In your analogy, the mosquito would be in a water balloon being tossed at a chain linked fence. Does the mask 100% prevent a user from catching it? No. But increased mask users between users reduces the spread of the virus exponentially.

Citizens of Japan and China often do wear masks during their flu season. Especially in there crowded cities. It is not a requirement, but they do come from a culture where hygiene is important. However, this is not indicative of the individuals who may elect to not wear masks or who may serve an undercooked bat. :D A bad joke, I admit. Not that those reports are necessarily viable.
https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus-bat-soup

The issue with the inmates was due to the fact that that at the time the pandemic broke out, prisons were going to go under lock down for a range of time that would've exceeded the sentences of some inmates. Not wanting to face the litigation, most prisons opted to release non-violent inmates by giving them, essentially, a highly recommended option of early release. Early paroled are fairly common in prison if an inmate displays good behavior or otherwise exceeds expectations. What was uncommon was the number of people who qualified during the start of the pandemic. And, in that context, it should make perfect sense.

It is unfortunate that there is a high number of ineffective gear, but this does not lead credence to the fact that this is about obedience but about general ignorance of the public and possibly even the manufacturers. Some companies, who also fear litigation, have included labels on masks to say they don't guarantee protection from COVID as a result. If anything, it may explain why masks do not always work due to the quality. You are right to be concerned, but not right to think that is a reason to not wear masks at all.

That is ONLY true when and if you’re sick.
Fauci on asymptomatic spread:
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1302320568339963905/pu/vid/480x270/c4kkxA9nw7H8vdO5.mp4

“hygiene is important” in China? Japan, yes. But with all due respect, you’ve obviously never been to China. LOL They do cover themselves up throughout Asia (China included) - but only when they’re sick, or when they’re around a colleague who is sick - though not always. They also wear masks as they believe they will protect them from pollution - which it does not. These masks do nothing in regards to PM 2.5.

So they made room to lock up people for disobeying tyrannical and draconian orders. Interesting that every one that Kyle R. shot in self-defence had an extensive record (pedophilia/robbery among others, - but as you say, ‘non violent’) and was released just in time for the BLM riots. Hmmm?
People are now arrested and thrown into jails for keeping business open, not wearing masks, while others like Nancy-Not-My-Fault-I-Was-Set-Up-Pelosi and Gavin-I-Learned-From-The-Experience-Newsom don’t. Rules for thee, not for me.

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- Why are we so low, or are we classifying every cough, sore throat, fever and shortness of breath immediately as covid? Some doctors are are beginning to speak out about that.

- Largest transfer of wealth in history:
Amazon: profit up 100%; Walmart: profit up 80%; Target: profit up 80%; Lowe’s: profit up 74% - Microsoft, Facebook, Apple, Google: stock at record high while Small businesses: 21% closed; revenue for rest down 30%.

Wealth increase in the pandemic for founder/CEOs of Amazon: $91 billion; Walmart: $38B; Google: $37B; Microsoft: $33B; Facebook: $28B; Nike: $8B; Apple: $8B - Small businesses: collectively lost over $200 billion

- WHO states that last year 10M people transmitted tuberculosis and 1.5M have died. Did you panic? Did you social distanced? Did you wear a mask? MSM and politicians didn’t tell you to. There is no more a tuberculosis pandemic as there is a covid one.

- You really think this is about the virus with 99.5% survivability rate? Covid is just one spoke in the wheel. Don’t get caught up on it. You’ll miss a bigger picture.

- Why are countries and leaders around the world pushing ‘Build Back Better’? Joe’s not the only one.

- Capitalism is blamed for climate, failing small business, racial inequality, covid, and economic inequality, among others. The Great Reset, by Building Back Better is the answer by the coming 4th Industrial Revolution.

- Why is Bill Gates the go to guy for medial and social advice and direction? He’s not a doctor, epidemiologies, or virologist, and never finished college.

- How did Bill Gates get to nominate Dr. Tedros Adhamon (not a Dr.) as head of WHO? Is it the vaccine companies he invested in, or virus patents he owns?

- If there is a real pandemic does it require faulty tests with 80% false positives, inaccurate news reporting, staged hospital overruns, and manipulated death certificates? No

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Why are we so low on what? Equipment? Medical personnel? Fatality rate? Symptoms? Cases? Deaths. I'd argue that we're doing fine on equipment and personnel at this time, but there is concern if cases continue to rise. The fatality rate and cases are above influenza levels, so there is concern there too. Symptoms? I'm not aware, but there is still presymptomatic and asymptomatic transfer but it is rare.

Given the restrictions in place, it makes sense that larger and online businesses will profit more. This is an unfortunate side effect but not one by design. Nor is there proof that it was by design.

Tuberculosis is a good comparison given that Covid deaths are reaching 1.5 million, which is the same as annual TB deaths. It is a pandemic and an embarrassing one since there are preventative measures for TB. The difference between the two is TB is bacterial, and Covid is viral. There are also treatments for TB, while there are a number of experimental treatments for Covid. Thus different preventative measures are needed. Not only this, but TB isn't as easily spread as Covid.

While they are both transmitted by water droplets, that appears to be where their shared contagious nature ends. TB is NOT spread by shaking someone’s hand, sharing food or drink, touching bed, linens or toilet seats, sharing toothbrushes, kissing though Covid is another matter entirely. So while Covid preventative measures would benefit from the spread of TB, they are are not necessary in regards to TB.
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/topic/basics/howtbspreads.htm

I don't subscribe to global conspiracy theories. The absence of evidence is never evidence.

Capitalism isn't going anywhere but for it to adapt to the current global market, then corporations have to change. No economic structure benefits from stagnation or lack innovation. This is why we abhor monopolies. I share your concerns of a social economy, but beyond that I see no evidence that this is some socialist agenda.

I'm aware that Bill Gates has a concerning amount of influence over the WHO. I am not aware that he specifically nominated Tedros Adhamon. I find that claim highly suspect of being false but as I said earlier, I am not following WHO given the plethora of allegations that they are not quite as accountable as I would deem comfortable. Not that that excuses people from wanting to part ways or dismantle WHO. Anyway, perhaps you have a link to the source of that claims Gates nominated him?

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That got cut off from [2] - Why are we so low on death rates from both influenza/pneumonia.

My point was they were simply shifting them over to push the narrative. As mentioned above in ‘list of conditions contributing to deaths involving covid’.

You may not think/believe that it is by design, but please, you need to look at the entire chess board, rather than one square, to make sense of it all. Otherwise you will never figure out what is going on, or that there even is a game you’re in. All these world events are tied together. Nothing happens by chance, it happens because someone decided for it to happen.

So TB spreads by water droplets (a bit like the water balloon analogy you used above) and again no one told us to wear masks?

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I would suggest looking at world events as a whole, not separately. Everything is connected.

I think we can both agree, it is not a conspiracy theory that he key to increasing human control lies in increasing human centralization of power. For example, there was a time when the human race was made up of tribes. Tribe members decided what happened in the tribe. Then came a big change, when tribes came together under what are called nations, and then few people at the centre of the nation were now dictating to all the former tribes that made up that nation. Through the EU, we’ve gone to the next level of bringing nations together under centralized control. The idea that is being pushed now, is to have One World Government, One World Army, One World Central Bank, One World Currency (cashless), One World Economy, and One World Religion. Underpinning that structure of centralized global control, is complete control of human perception.

As the leaders of the Great Reset publish books & give speeches outlining *exactly* what it is, their disinformation agents simply call it conspiracy theory. Great Reset is NOT a conspiracy, and as their own website states, is built on UN’s Agenda 2021 and 2030.
Please feel free to click-through tabs right on WEFs website, and let it serve as a complete ‘chessboard’,
https://intelligence.weforum.org/topics/a1G0X000006OLciUAG?tab=publications

Please keep in mind that WEF is nothing more than a think-tank. Why so much influence over our lives and countries around the world?

Here’s couple of short clips of Klaus Schwab you should find interesting, if not deeply conceding regarding the direction he wants to lead us in.

We’re not going back to normal.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1344157455048065026/pu/vid/640x352/m1Sx5RfrGjuiUEiF.mp4

4th Industrial Revolution - the merging of humans with AI
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1328381166462885888/pu/vid/1272x720/6K6JFmk8w0jIAKJ1.mp4

Jumps around the issue once again
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1341673021812088833/pu/vid/960x540/4JtqV5N3ReH1Mn-G.mp4

Another beauty from WEF regarding human beings and AI
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1333086037254361089/pu/vid/1280x720/_-HbPtPr-1zqCv6n.mp4

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Are you sure about the absence of evidence? How is it a conspiracy when world leaders are talking about it themselves? How is it a conspiracy if the head of the WEF consistently talks about it? One world economic system under the control of the one world government that they are currently forcing on us is not capitalism. This is being pushed through The Great Reset, under the slogans like ‘Build Back Better’, and many beautifully sounding and virtuous slogans, like ’sustainability’, ‘equality’, ‘empowerment’, and others.
https://sdgs.un.org/

Short segment from SkyNEWS in Australia
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1328128834625970176/pu/vid/960x540/DzpXOhnpFHWPn-Me.mp4

You mentioned that you 'see no evidence that this is some socialist agenda’. Please look beyond one square on a chess board. Proponents of climate change are claiming that capitalism is to blame and socialism is the answer. BLM/Antifa (self proclaimed “trained Marxists”) blame capitalism for racism/inequality and demand socialism. Pope Francis says capitalism has failed us in covid crisis. It’s all around, and socialism is always the answer. You think that’s all a coincidence? Who’s behind these movements?

In 2016 WEF tweeted a video ‘8 predictions for the world in 2030’, which they have since taken down (about 6 weeks ago), when it finally reached critical mass. It claims: 1) You will own nothing, and you will be happy. 2) Whatever you want, you’ll rent…. Which brings up a question, if no one owns anything, who are we renting from? We’re going to be striped off all property, told what and how much to eat, and pay carbon tax on everything we run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBBxWtKKQiA&feature=emb_title

Build Back Better pushed by many countries, not just Biden.
imgflip.com/i/4kb8ks

Sold-out puppet politicians around the world have been beating the drum ever since covid hit.
(ie.,Trudeau: “This pandemic has provided an opportunity for a reset. This is our chance to accelerate our pre-pandemic efforts…)
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1328318061498261505/pu/vid/960x540/MZGnRX_HYX4gfb1K.mp4

When (rarely) asked about it, they claim and label it a ‘conspiracy theory’
(ie.,Trudeau, denies what he said in the video above: “if MPs want to talk about conspiracy theories, that’s their choice”)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVNkSV3VKds

[4]
Lieutenant Puppet Lightfoot letting it slip…
Lightfoot - making deals that respect values of the NWO
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1258745729771864074/pu/vid/1078x560/vvKU9HNZihvYpRqW.mp4
Lightfoot - pledge allegiance to NWO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snUFiKnYCyM&feature=emb_title

Aurstralian Health Minister letting it slip…
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1314339393545609223/pu/vid/1280x720/zkhXLuuNE6okO2w3.mp4

Claus Schwab - fear mongering of what will happen next (if we don’t accept their demands)
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1328051074318516224/pu/vid/1280x720/P905UjIh5ch1tF6D.mp4

On Gates & Tedros @ WHO
*source
https://www.politico.eu/article/bill-gates-who-most-powerful-doctor/
(Gates’ priorities have become the WHO’s.)
(the agency spends a disproportionate amount of its resources on projects with the measurable outcomes Gates prefers)
(as WHO prepares to elect one of three finalists to lead the organization. “All of the candidates are going to have to ally with him in some way”)
(Few people dare to openly criticize what he does. Most of 16 people interviewed on the topic would only do so on the condition of anonymity. “He is treated liked a head of state, not only at the WHO, but also at the G20”)
(Gates Foundation’s money comes from investments in big business, it could serve as a Trojan horse for corporate interests to undermine WHO’s role in setting standards and shaping health policies.”)
("French diplomat suggested that Gates also supports Tedros”)
(They [B&MGFund.] are just such a big player that as immediately as they put money down they can disrupt things)
Read between the lines

(Tedros holds a PhD. in community health and a Master’s in immunology, but is not a medical doctor, which would be a first for a WHO leader.)
*source
https://www.politico.eu/article/three-candidates-from-three-continents-vie-to-be-next-global-health-chief/

Info on Tedros I put together awhile back.
imgflip.com/i/3vnaef

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I commend you for your inquisitive nature. You have evidently done some amount of research even with your questionable sources. If this is a copy/paste it is quite extensive and still impressive nonetheless. There are some good questions and observations here. Some easily explained, but nonetheless good to question. And I'm very glad you've taken the opportunity to put as much effort into your arguments as I have mine. I hope you will do me the kindness of citing some of your sources as I have so politely done. Likewise, if you need sources for any of my claims, I'm very happy to provide them or admit they are based on my personal observations and estimations.

Thank you DSL, I literally haven't had the time, but will definitely get back to you to discuss further! Give me a day - two at the latest.

No, not copy and paste, as I said, pulled the list out of my head.

Must admit that is not the best way of going about it as I have missed some things, and forgot to mention hydroxychloroquine which has been in use and sold over the counter for over 50 years. Safe even for pregnant women but all of the sudden pulled and required “testing”. As expected, it was pulled from the shelves and forbidden to be prescribed by doctors. They wont be able to justify vaccines, nanotech, chip ID passes, moving us towards digital currency (cashless) if there’s a simple cure/preventative.

Also, the re-defining of long accepted terms, as was the case with ‘herd immunity’ (see image). One more thing I’ve noticed recently,... all while vaccines were in the testing stage, media has talked about ‘side-effects’. Ever since they became available to the public, all complications are now referred to as ‘allergic reactions’. No more side-effects.

My apologies to make you wait. I got caught up with things for longer than planned. Once I was away from Imgflip for awhile, I dreaded stepping back in - but I owed you a response and said I would.

I dumped quite a bit on you. Take your time, I'm in no hurry, but I do hope you consider and draw your own conclusion.

Happy New Year.

Happy New Year

I can't say I'm eager to read all of this if your position is that of microchip implants as that seems like conspiracy theory drivel to me. But, I will digest this information all the same and reply if there is anything to dispute factually without repetitively going...

"There is no reliable source for that position."

As much as possible. I don't want to wave you off, but I do wish you to engage in a manner that is coherent and consistent. Spouting baseless claims just border on the absurd. It's like arguing with a flat earther. I'm sure we can agree at least that those people are not looking for logical conclusions but confirmation biased conclusions.

I have addressed your points and provided sources you requested.

If anything, I encourage you to go through the short clips (on The Great Reset) I included. These aren't sweaty guys in the basement giving their opinion, but politicians, and officials, from their interviews, press conferences, and seminars.

Again, how is it a conspiracy when it is right there on their website? How is it a conspiracy when they themselves talk about it?

Dismissing that which you are not aware of (or for whatever reason refuse to acknowledge), as a conspiracy theory is a bit disappointing, but not surprising. This is where we are by design.

https://id2020.org/
If you scroll to the bottom, you will find the same players behind this as well, Microsoft (Gates) and Gavi: Vaccine Alliance (Gates Foundation).

They're not hiding the fact that Covid crisis is their opportunity they may not have again.
Ordo Ab Chao has been used for millennia.

Because a lack of evidence isn't evidence of a conspiracy. That is what makes it a conspiracy theory.

Ok, let me rephrase that, what I meant to say is...

How is The Great Reset a conspiracy theory when it's right there on WEF's website?
How is The Great Reset a conspiracy theory when Klaus Schwab, politicians and officials talk about it? Is this lack of evidence you're referring to?

But I guess I should have asked earlier to clarify, and not assumed.
What exactly are you referring to when you say you said you don't subscribe to global conspiracy theories?

I don't subscribe to any conspiracy theory. Global or otherwise. In essence, they either have an extreme lack of evidence pretending to be evidence, or unverifiable evidence. They may constructed through a series of unrelated facts or assumptions. Once we get to that point where the facts don't add up, it doesn't necessarily mean there is evidence of a conspiracy. It just means that the facts don't add up. There could be plenty of reasons for that to happen. Human error, one fact out of the others is wrong or erroneously reported.

A conspiracy theory can become a fact, but only when there is a presentation of actual and undeniable evidence. But until that happens, it is just a story to tell to fill in the gaps of data we just don't have. You might as well argue philosophy rather than science.

Are some conspiracy theories more believable than others? Of course! They wouldn't be very good if they could be simply dismissed like they were fairytales. A good conspiracy theory must have some evidence or fact assigned to it to be a good one. Or even one so widely followed. Just because something is more believable, however, doesn't mean it's true or accurate.

Agree.

I posed questions above, because MSM is calling The Great Reset a conspiracy theory, even though WEF has it on their website and has been calling for it, head of WEF Klaus Schwab wrote a book on it and is calling for it, and politicians have openly talked about it and are calling for it as well.

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- ‘You don't know if you have covid as virus won't develop for 14 days’ is a lie to make you fear everything and everyone. To this day WHO has not registered a single case of infection/transmission from asymptomatic person. If you don't have symptoms, you're not sick. If you don't have symptoms, you're not contagious.

- Covid Survival Rate: 0-19 @ 99.997%; 20-49 @ 99.98%; 50-69 @ 99.5%; 70+ @ 94.6; again flu season numbers.

- Countries around the world are on par or below annual mortality numbers from the same time last year.

- covid tests detect live virus in up to test 32 cycles. Fauci says there is no point for tests to be conducted beyond 35 cycles. Labs are running tests between 42 and 60 cycles. Doing that they are detecting dead virus cells from flu and cold you may have had up to 18 months ago.
- Mixing of word play: stop using ‘quarantine’ - that’s a term designed for people who are verified sick, this is a house-arrest mandated by the state; stop using ‘social distancing’ - nothing socials about forced isolation; stop using ‘safer at home’ when millions of Americans don’t have basic necessities required to fit their needs; stop using ‘this is for the greater good’ - when you close the economy and kill small/medium business that millions of American have spent generations to establish, that’s anything but good; stop using ‘new normal’ - that’s some MK Ultra mind control drivel, nothing normal about forced isolation, treating your neighbour like they have the plague, re-breathing your own bodily waste, wearing a mask and living in constant fear of contamination, that’s normal??

- If, like flu, covid affects the elderly and those with underlying conditions, why won't they make them stay home, and/or wear masks?

- If the virus is so deadly, why hasn’t it wiped out the homeless? No masks, no social distancing, no hygiene, no sterile environment.

- Virus attacks conservative gatherings but ignores Antifa and BLM mobs.

- Biden had 6 circles with two empty chairs at his “rallies”, then boom, Nov 4th when declared himself winner the parking lot was full.

- Media: Has covid killed off the flu? (programming) No, it's just that...

- According to CDC website flu (F) and pneumonia (P) mortality data (we're currently in week 47 so lets use that as example)
WK47 2020 (5F/1,370P);
WK47 2019 (50F/3,016P);
WK47 2018 (31F/3,178P);
WK47 2017 (48F/3,202P);
WK47 2016 (22F/3,255P);
WK47 2015 (14F/3,324P);

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https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/coronavirus-disease-covid-19-how-is-it-transmitted

WHO reclassified asymptomatic people, who you correctly identify as unlikely to spread the virus, as pre-symptomatic as a result. People may show symptoms after a number of days. This timeline has shifted over months, but it is not indicative of a lie but rather the result of experience versus theory. Someone may have only one or two underline symptoms, but not all, and if they are coughing or sneezing for a day or two, they may transmit the virus despite not showing severe symptoms.

I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers in regards to survival rate.

However, the CDC indicates the following fatality rates by age group.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fcases-updates%2Fcases-in-us.html#demographics

According to the CDC, 20% of the total deaths in the US are from the age group of 0-64. While 80% are from individuals who are 65 or older. The current number of deaths is 266,051. Meaning about 53,210 individuals in the US from the 0-64 age group have died from Covid, and 212,841 age 65 or older in the US have died from COVID. About 15% of the cases are from age 0-64, while 85% of cases are 65 or older. We have 13,295,605 cases currently in the US. So, 1,994,341 of cases are from 0-64 age groups, while 11,301,264 are from the 65 or older age group. Leaving a case fatality of 2.7% for people 0-64 and 1.9% for people 65+. (Which means the case fatality rate for younger groups is actually higher than the more susceptible group. Hmm, that is interesting. I'm happy to revisit the math here. I should also note these are estimates based on the reported percentage of affected age groups not the actual reported percentages. You can see that the CDC even says this is from data of 194,504 deaths, while we're currently at 266,051 deaths.)

You are right that both influenza and covid affect older individuals more so, and more severely and fatality. That doesn't mean that covid is influenza. Nor are the cases reported worldwide matching the average deaths for covid fatalities. The average annual death of worldwide individuals from influenza is 470,000 while this year, 1,472,560 and counting. Again, more than three times the usual average. So, you are wrong that "Countries around the world are on par or below annual mortality numbers from the same time last year."

Re. Reclassification, so now everyone is pre-symptomatic, period. Do you see what’s going on? Healthy people should fear and be cautious of other healthy people. Fear and distrust of everyone despite of 5 senses.

Again, this was all from memory, so I took your link to CDC data, grouped it as closely to what I have listed, and cracked the numbers.

As of Dec. 30, 2020 we have 19,432,125 Cases and 337,419 Deaths

Demographic (Deaths) Cases [recovery rate]
0-17 (211) 1,500,972 [99.99%]
18-49 (10,982) 7,750,772 [99.9%]
50-64 (34,427) 2,923,993 [98.8%]
65+ (192,269) 2,050,812 [90.6%]

No, not saying covid is influenza, but influenza is a coronavirus, as is the common cold, and they’re all being counted as such.

Fatalities around the world ARE on par or below average. We’re NOT in a pandemic.

Death rates in the US by Year:
2016 : 2,744,248
2017 : 2,813,503
2018 : 2,839,205
2019 : 2,855,000
2020 : 2,635,214 (Dec 02, 2020)

Hospitals were empty. Hospitals usually run at capacity at all times, so the influx of covid didn't change anything, except when they were mandated to only do emergency care and covid care. Then the hospitals emptied. There are videos of people touring the hospitals and they are empty.

Nope, incorrect. We usually have sickness during fall and winter because people cover their skin and stay inside so they produce less vitamin D. Most people now know to take vitamin D supplements during the fall and winter so this shouldn't be an issue.

Restrictions are being lessened because people are outright ignoring them. In my town all the shops still have the signs on the doors about requiring masks. No one is wearing them, and no one is getting kicked out.

Your recommendations will make things worse. I recommend going outside and wearing the minimum skin covering clothes as possible or take a mega dose of vitamin D multiple times per day (about 1-2,000 IU 2-3 times per day). Don't wear a mask because it traps bacteria and viruses and most people can't wear a mask correctly all day anyway. Don't bother social distancing because outside of direct sunlight covid can travel 47 feet.

I don't believe hospitals were never alleged empty by staff. Volunteers unfamiliar with hospital protocols, perhaps. The evidence that pointed to such was referring to the fact that whole wards were devoted to covid patients so that regular patients could still be treated. The fact is, there were numerous hospitals, usually in urban areas, that were under heavy strain. The videos you're referring to are patients who were in the non-covid wards. And there were hospitals that had to turn people away due to how minor their injuries were. If there injuries were more severe, and they had visitors, then that is how these videos were likely produced.

No, we have sickness because viruses thrive in the cold and do not do so well in warmer climates. Even the CDC (and the President) speculated that Covid cases may come down to nill during the Summer and thus rushed to lift restrictions back in late Spring.

It is possible that restrictions are being lessened to people ignoring them.

My recommendations are based on CDC protocol. No one is saying to wear a mask all day. Also, I would like your sources for Covid can travel 47 feet. It is news to me. If it is not from the CDC then, you'll have to forgive me for remaining doubtful. Especially as I recall you expressing anti-vaxx "alternative" facts before and, quite frankly, those are highly suspect.

But it’s because of government control, not really sense.

Because that is what people living under welfare want, you know Biden voters. They do not care if small to medium size business go out, as long as they keep getting that welfare check and food stamps.

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Not enough people wore masks and socially distanced.

so they didn't work

You're totally ignoring the OP's point, lockdowns don't work. Even the WHO said that (before they were made to retract it, just like everything in this facacta pandemic).

Maybe the lockdowns didn't work because people were ignoring the pandemic and still having large gatherings without masks and social distancing.

Gavin Newsom apologized for joining a party of more than 6. Never mentioned or apologized for not wearing masks, or socially distancing.

Exactly if this was so deadly why didn’t he and the medical professionals wear masks like they told the little people to do

When did I mention Gavin Newsom?

Gavin Newsom (as an example was one of those people who as you say) "ignored the pandemic and still had large gatherings without masks and social distancing". As I said, he did not apologize for not wearing a mask, or his lack of social distancing - the gathering of more than 6 was the problem and sin he committed. So you run off now and continue obeying these people. You're making a huge difference while staying safe. Keep telling yourself that.

"So you run off now and continue obeying these people. You're making a huge difference while staying safe. Keep telling yourself that."

You must not like your life huh?

Before commenting on a reply please make sure you know what you are responding to.

Maybe they didn’t work because they don’t work. Maybe they haven’t worked in Europe and they have high compliance. It’s a virus it does what virus do. Just like the flu every freakin year since you were born.

Lockdowns happened all the way back on early March. That was before any anti-maskers became influential or significant.

That first wave of restrictions worked to flatten the curve. The goal is to get closer to R0, so each infected person is infecting fewer people. When people social distance and mask and avoid gatherings, the R0 drops; when they get lax, it increases. Not. Rocket. Science.

I'm confused what part of science do you actually belive in because uh your not making much sense.

Science isn't a religion: one doesn't "believe in" it. You are showing a data curve reflecting the whole United States. While this data is accurate (or as close to accurate as the acknowledged weakness of less-than universal testing and varied reporting standards can make it), it DOES NOT SHOW the effects of shelter in place very well, because they were implemented differently in different places.
The curve I posted didn't show total infections: it showed the rate of infections (specifically the R, or statistic on how many new people each positive case infects) and its strong correlation with shelter in place restrictions in one state. Again, because each state is on a different timeline of spikes in infections and public policy response, data that shows the whole of the US is not useful for this purpose. I invite you to examine the individual R curves for each state at https://rt.live/ .
Use data to understand the world, and use it thoughtfully!
Let me recommend the website https://www.badscience.net/ and the book of the same name by Ben Goldacre as guidelines to understanding and using data well.

Yes they did. The vast majority did.

Oh bullshit

and what makes you think any more people are going to obey during "Lock Down II"

They won't, and more denialist trump supporters will die of covid.